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I looked up the usage of "such that" in the dictionary, it says:



"such that, so that: used to express purpose or result: power such that it was effortless"



if the subordinate clause following "such that" is an adverbial clause, what is the role of "power" in the whole sentence? If "power" is the subject of the sentence, where is the predicate? Is something omitted before "such that"? I feel this setence is odd because there is only a noun before such that. I also find another sentence in the dictionary :



The damage was such that it would cost too much money to repair.



I guess the meaning of "such that" is same here. But why the second sentence has a "predicate"("was") while the first one does not? So can I also alter the second sentence to the form of "The damage such that...."? If I omit the predicate-"was" here , is this sentence still right?



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  • Your first example is not a sentence, but a noun phrase. “Such that” is not a constituent but an adjective + subordinator. In your second example, the adjective “such” has a that clause as complement – together they form a constituent functioning as predicative complement of “was”.
    – BillJ
    Oct 21 '17 at 8:03










  • No, that would not give a complete sentence, but just a predicate. I cannot think of an example with "power such that it was effortless".
    – BillJ
    Oct 21 '17 at 8:29










  • this example is from the dictionary. dictionary.com/browse/such , I mean I add an "is " as a predicate, to make it become "Power is such that it was effortless", so is this sentence right?
    – Fei
    Oct 21 '17 at 8:31












  • I can't see that example in the link you provided.
    – BillJ
    Oct 21 '17 at 8:44










  • wordreference.com/definition/such , the example is located at the bottom of the page.
    – Fei
    Oct 21 '17 at 14:19

















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I looked up the usage of "such that" in the dictionary, it says:



"such that, so that: used to express purpose or result: power such that it was effortless"



if the subordinate clause following "such that" is an adverbial clause, what is the role of "power" in the whole sentence? If "power" is the subject of the sentence, where is the predicate? Is something omitted before "such that"? I feel this setence is odd because there is only a noun before such that. I also find another sentence in the dictionary :



The damage was such that it would cost too much money to repair.



I guess the meaning of "such that" is same here. But why the second sentence has a "predicate"("was") while the first one does not? So can I also alter the second sentence to the form of "The damage such that...."? If I omit the predicate-"was" here , is this sentence still right?



Thanks!










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  • Your first example is not a sentence, but a noun phrase. “Such that” is not a constituent but an adjective + subordinator. In your second example, the adjective “such” has a that clause as complement – together they form a constituent functioning as predicative complement of “was”.
    – BillJ
    Oct 21 '17 at 8:03










  • No, that would not give a complete sentence, but just a predicate. I cannot think of an example with "power such that it was effortless".
    – BillJ
    Oct 21 '17 at 8:29










  • this example is from the dictionary. dictionary.com/browse/such , I mean I add an "is " as a predicate, to make it become "Power is such that it was effortless", so is this sentence right?
    – Fei
    Oct 21 '17 at 8:31












  • I can't see that example in the link you provided.
    – BillJ
    Oct 21 '17 at 8:44










  • wordreference.com/definition/such , the example is located at the bottom of the page.
    – Fei
    Oct 21 '17 at 14:19













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I looked up the usage of "such that" in the dictionary, it says:



"such that, so that: used to express purpose or result: power such that it was effortless"



if the subordinate clause following "such that" is an adverbial clause, what is the role of "power" in the whole sentence? If "power" is the subject of the sentence, where is the predicate? Is something omitted before "such that"? I feel this setence is odd because there is only a noun before such that. I also find another sentence in the dictionary :



The damage was such that it would cost too much money to repair.



I guess the meaning of "such that" is same here. But why the second sentence has a "predicate"("was") while the first one does not? So can I also alter the second sentence to the form of "The damage such that...."? If I omit the predicate-"was" here , is this sentence still right?



Thanks!










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I looked up the usage of "such that" in the dictionary, it says:



"such that, so that: used to express purpose or result: power such that it was effortless"



if the subordinate clause following "such that" is an adverbial clause, what is the role of "power" in the whole sentence? If "power" is the subject of the sentence, where is the predicate? Is something omitted before "such that"? I feel this setence is odd because there is only a noun before such that. I also find another sentence in the dictionary :



The damage was such that it would cost too much money to repair.



I guess the meaning of "such that" is same here. But why the second sentence has a "predicate"("was") while the first one does not? So can I also alter the second sentence to the form of "The damage such that...."? If I omit the predicate-"was" here , is this sentence still right?



Thanks!







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  • Your first example is not a sentence, but a noun phrase. “Such that” is not a constituent but an adjective + subordinator. In your second example, the adjective “such” has a that clause as complement – together they form a constituent functioning as predicative complement of “was”.
    – BillJ
    Oct 21 '17 at 8:03










  • No, that would not give a complete sentence, but just a predicate. I cannot think of an example with "power such that it was effortless".
    – BillJ
    Oct 21 '17 at 8:29










  • this example is from the dictionary. dictionary.com/browse/such , I mean I add an "is " as a predicate, to make it become "Power is such that it was effortless", so is this sentence right?
    – Fei
    Oct 21 '17 at 8:31












  • I can't see that example in the link you provided.
    – BillJ
    Oct 21 '17 at 8:44










  • wordreference.com/definition/such , the example is located at the bottom of the page.
    – Fei
    Oct 21 '17 at 14:19


















  • Your first example is not a sentence, but a noun phrase. “Such that” is not a constituent but an adjective + subordinator. In your second example, the adjective “such” has a that clause as complement – together they form a constituent functioning as predicative complement of “was”.
    – BillJ
    Oct 21 '17 at 8:03










  • No, that would not give a complete sentence, but just a predicate. I cannot think of an example with "power such that it was effortless".
    – BillJ
    Oct 21 '17 at 8:29










  • this example is from the dictionary. dictionary.com/browse/such , I mean I add an "is " as a predicate, to make it become "Power is such that it was effortless", so is this sentence right?
    – Fei
    Oct 21 '17 at 8:31












  • I can't see that example in the link you provided.
    – BillJ
    Oct 21 '17 at 8:44










  • wordreference.com/definition/such , the example is located at the bottom of the page.
    – Fei
    Oct 21 '17 at 14:19
















Your first example is not a sentence, but a noun phrase. “Such that” is not a constituent but an adjective + subordinator. In your second example, the adjective “such” has a that clause as complement – together they form a constituent functioning as predicative complement of “was”.
– BillJ
Oct 21 '17 at 8:03




Your first example is not a sentence, but a noun phrase. “Such that” is not a constituent but an adjective + subordinator. In your second example, the adjective “such” has a that clause as complement – together they form a constituent functioning as predicative complement of “was”.
– BillJ
Oct 21 '17 at 8:03












No, that would not give a complete sentence, but just a predicate. I cannot think of an example with "power such that it was effortless".
– BillJ
Oct 21 '17 at 8:29




No, that would not give a complete sentence, but just a predicate. I cannot think of an example with "power such that it was effortless".
– BillJ
Oct 21 '17 at 8:29












this example is from the dictionary. dictionary.com/browse/such , I mean I add an "is " as a predicate, to make it become "Power is such that it was effortless", so is this sentence right?
– Fei
Oct 21 '17 at 8:31






this example is from the dictionary. dictionary.com/browse/such , I mean I add an "is " as a predicate, to make it become "Power is such that it was effortless", so is this sentence right?
– Fei
Oct 21 '17 at 8:31














I can't see that example in the link you provided.
– BillJ
Oct 21 '17 at 8:44




I can't see that example in the link you provided.
– BillJ
Oct 21 '17 at 8:44












wordreference.com/definition/such , the example is located at the bottom of the page.
– Fei
Oct 21 '17 at 14:19




wordreference.com/definition/such , the example is located at the bottom of the page.
– Fei
Oct 21 '17 at 14:19










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Fei, I think if we omitted the predicate "was", it will not be a sentence because, you know, a sentence must have its predicate. However, in my perspective, the meaning after omitted "was" is not be changed.
And also, I think we can understand subordinate clause started with "such that" as the concrete illustration to the subject before the clause. More clearly, the damage such that it would cost much money to repair, I understand it as "how was the damage", "what is the level of the damage that has been suffered", and "such that" gives the explanation to the questions.
Maybe my expression is more Chinglish, so glad to have you all correction.






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    Fei, I think if we omitted the predicate "was", it will not be a sentence because, you know, a sentence must have its predicate. However, in my perspective, the meaning after omitted "was" is not be changed.
    And also, I think we can understand subordinate clause started with "such that" as the concrete illustration to the subject before the clause. More clearly, the damage such that it would cost much money to repair, I understand it as "how was the damage", "what is the level of the damage that has been suffered", and "such that" gives the explanation to the questions.
    Maybe my expression is more Chinglish, so glad to have you all correction.






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      Fei, I think if we omitted the predicate "was", it will not be a sentence because, you know, a sentence must have its predicate. However, in my perspective, the meaning after omitted "was" is not be changed.
      And also, I think we can understand subordinate clause started with "such that" as the concrete illustration to the subject before the clause. More clearly, the damage such that it would cost much money to repair, I understand it as "how was the damage", "what is the level of the damage that has been suffered", and "such that" gives the explanation to the questions.
      Maybe my expression is more Chinglish, so glad to have you all correction.






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        Fei, I think if we omitted the predicate "was", it will not be a sentence because, you know, a sentence must have its predicate. However, in my perspective, the meaning after omitted "was" is not be changed.
        And also, I think we can understand subordinate clause started with "such that" as the concrete illustration to the subject before the clause. More clearly, the damage such that it would cost much money to repair, I understand it as "how was the damage", "what is the level of the damage that has been suffered", and "such that" gives the explanation to the questions.
        Maybe my expression is more Chinglish, so glad to have you all correction.






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        Fei, I think if we omitted the predicate "was", it will not be a sentence because, you know, a sentence must have its predicate. However, in my perspective, the meaning after omitted "was" is not be changed.
        And also, I think we can understand subordinate clause started with "such that" as the concrete illustration to the subject before the clause. More clearly, the damage such that it would cost much money to repair, I understand it as "how was the damage", "what is the level of the damage that has been suffered", and "such that" gives the explanation to the questions.
        Maybe my expression is more Chinglish, so glad to have you all correction.







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