Is there already an XMSS/XMSS^MT Provider for Java JCA (Java Cryptography Architecture)?











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I was wondering if there are already Providers in the Java Cryptography Architecture (JCA) for post-quantum signature schemes, especially XMSS^MT?










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  • See this, this, this and so on. You might next look for third-party providers.
    – James K Polk
    Nov 22 at 16:37










  • this, this, this <- no xmss^mt,. no xmss^mt, no xmss^mt..
    – Nicolas Brauer
    Nov 22 at 16:51










  • Sorry, maybe a third-party provider. Check Bouncycastle, and there is a German university that I recall has a post-quantum provider ... I'll see what I can find.
    – James K Polk
    Nov 22 at 16:53












  • The german one is was thinking of is flexiprovider, but I don't see any evidencee of XMSS support. On the other hand, Bouncycastle has XMSS support so you should give it a try.
    – James K Polk
    Nov 22 at 16:59










  • Thank you very much! I found BouncyCastlePQCProvider though I seem to be unable to implement it correctly in the JCA, are you experienced with this ?
    – Nicolas Brauer
    Nov 22 at 17:08















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I was wondering if there are already Providers in the Java Cryptography Architecture (JCA) for post-quantum signature schemes, especially XMSS^MT?










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  • See this, this, this and so on. You might next look for third-party providers.
    – James K Polk
    Nov 22 at 16:37










  • this, this, this <- no xmss^mt,. no xmss^mt, no xmss^mt..
    – Nicolas Brauer
    Nov 22 at 16:51










  • Sorry, maybe a third-party provider. Check Bouncycastle, and there is a German university that I recall has a post-quantum provider ... I'll see what I can find.
    – James K Polk
    Nov 22 at 16:53












  • The german one is was thinking of is flexiprovider, but I don't see any evidencee of XMSS support. On the other hand, Bouncycastle has XMSS support so you should give it a try.
    – James K Polk
    Nov 22 at 16:59










  • Thank you very much! I found BouncyCastlePQCProvider though I seem to be unable to implement it correctly in the JCA, are you experienced with this ?
    – Nicolas Brauer
    Nov 22 at 17:08













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I was wondering if there are already Providers in the Java Cryptography Architecture (JCA) for post-quantum signature schemes, especially XMSS^MT?










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I was wondering if there are already Providers in the Java Cryptography Architecture (JCA) for post-quantum signature schemes, especially XMSS^MT?







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  • See this, this, this and so on. You might next look for third-party providers.
    – James K Polk
    Nov 22 at 16:37










  • this, this, this <- no xmss^mt,. no xmss^mt, no xmss^mt..
    – Nicolas Brauer
    Nov 22 at 16:51










  • Sorry, maybe a third-party provider. Check Bouncycastle, and there is a German university that I recall has a post-quantum provider ... I'll see what I can find.
    – James K Polk
    Nov 22 at 16:53












  • The german one is was thinking of is flexiprovider, but I don't see any evidencee of XMSS support. On the other hand, Bouncycastle has XMSS support so you should give it a try.
    – James K Polk
    Nov 22 at 16:59










  • Thank you very much! I found BouncyCastlePQCProvider though I seem to be unable to implement it correctly in the JCA, are you experienced with this ?
    – Nicolas Brauer
    Nov 22 at 17:08


















  • See this, this, this and so on. You might next look for third-party providers.
    – James K Polk
    Nov 22 at 16:37










  • this, this, this <- no xmss^mt,. no xmss^mt, no xmss^mt..
    – Nicolas Brauer
    Nov 22 at 16:51










  • Sorry, maybe a third-party provider. Check Bouncycastle, and there is a German university that I recall has a post-quantum provider ... I'll see what I can find.
    – James K Polk
    Nov 22 at 16:53












  • The german one is was thinking of is flexiprovider, but I don't see any evidencee of XMSS support. On the other hand, Bouncycastle has XMSS support so you should give it a try.
    – James K Polk
    Nov 22 at 16:59










  • Thank you very much! I found BouncyCastlePQCProvider though I seem to be unable to implement it correctly in the JCA, are you experienced with this ?
    – Nicolas Brauer
    Nov 22 at 17:08
















See this, this, this and so on. You might next look for third-party providers.
– James K Polk
Nov 22 at 16:37




See this, this, this and so on. You might next look for third-party providers.
– James K Polk
Nov 22 at 16:37












this, this, this <- no xmss^mt,. no xmss^mt, no xmss^mt..
– Nicolas Brauer
Nov 22 at 16:51




this, this, this <- no xmss^mt,. no xmss^mt, no xmss^mt..
– Nicolas Brauer
Nov 22 at 16:51












Sorry, maybe a third-party provider. Check Bouncycastle, and there is a German university that I recall has a post-quantum provider ... I'll see what I can find.
– James K Polk
Nov 22 at 16:53






Sorry, maybe a third-party provider. Check Bouncycastle, and there is a German university that I recall has a post-quantum provider ... I'll see what I can find.
– James K Polk
Nov 22 at 16:53














The german one is was thinking of is flexiprovider, but I don't see any evidencee of XMSS support. On the other hand, Bouncycastle has XMSS support so you should give it a try.
– James K Polk
Nov 22 at 16:59




The german one is was thinking of is flexiprovider, but I don't see any evidencee of XMSS support. On the other hand, Bouncycastle has XMSS support so you should give it a try.
– James K Polk
Nov 22 at 16:59












Thank you very much! I found BouncyCastlePQCProvider though I seem to be unable to implement it correctly in the JCA, are you experienced with this ?
– Nicolas Brauer
Nov 22 at 17:08




Thank you very much! I found BouncyCastlePQCProvider though I seem to be unable to implement it correctly in the JCA, are you experienced with this ?
– Nicolas Brauer
Nov 22 at 17:08












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Here is an example taken almost verbatim from the Bouncycastle source code in org.bouncycastle.pqc.jcajce.provider.test.XMSSMTTest. This code was run on Java 8.



import org.bouncycastle.pqc.jcajce.interfaces.StateAwareSignature;
import org.bouncycastle.pqc.jcajce.provider.BouncyCastlePQCProvider;
import org.bouncycastle.pqc.jcajce.spec.XMSSMTParameterSpec;
import org.bouncycastle.util.Strings;

import java.security.*;

public class Main {

private static void fail(boolean condition, String msg) {
if (condition) {
throw new RuntimeException(msg);
}
}

public static void main(String args) throws Exception {
Security.addProvider(new BouncyCastlePQCProvider());
byte msg = Strings.toByteArray("Cthulhu Fthagn --What a wonderful phrase!Cthulhu Fthagn --Say it and you're crazed!");
KeyPairGenerator kpg = KeyPairGenerator.getInstance("XMSSMT", "BCPQC");

kpg.initialize(new XMSSMTParameterSpec(20, 10, XMSSMTParameterSpec.SHA256), new SecureRandom());

KeyPair kp = kpg.generateKeyPair();

Signature sig = Signature.getInstance("SHA256withXMSSMT", "BCPQC");

fail(!(sig instanceof StateAwareSignature), "wrong signature instance");

StateAwareSignature xmssSig = (StateAwareSignature) sig;

xmssSig.initSign(kp.getPrivate());

fail(!xmssSig.isSigningCapable(), "signature object is not signing-capable");

xmssSig.update(msg, 0, msg.length);

byte s = sig.sign();

PrivateKey nKey = xmssSig.getUpdatedPrivateKey();

fail(kp.getPrivate().equals(nKey), "");
fail(xmssSig.isSigningCapable(), "signature object is signing-capable");

xmssSig.update(msg, 0, msg.length);

try {
sig.sign();
fail(true, "no exception after key extraction");
} catch (SignatureException e) {
fail(!"signing key no longer usable".equals(e.getMessage()), "wrong exception");
}

try {
xmssSig.getUpdatedPrivateKey();
fail(true, "no exception after key extraction");
} catch (IllegalStateException e) {
fail(!"signature object not in a signing state".equals(e.getMessage()), "wrong exception");
}

xmssSig.initSign(nKey);

xmssSig.update(msg, 0, msg.length);

s = sig.sign();

xmssSig.initVerify(kp.getPublic());

xmssSig.update(msg, 0, msg.length);

fail(!xmssSig.verify(s), "verification failure");
}
}


There are other examples in that file as well. Source code is available here.






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  • Thank you very much James, when I try to implement the BouncyCastlePQCProvider to the JCA like described here under Step 8, it does not get recognized. keytool -genkeypair -alias <alias> -keyalg xmss prompts: no such algorithm exeption which means the BCProvider does not get recognized (as it clearly does provide the xmss alg for keygen). As you did already help me a lot, might you have an idea for this as well ? ^^
    – Nicolas Brauer
    Nov 22 at 20:41












  • @NicolasBrauer: is the provider configured in your JRE/lib/security/java.security or j9+ JRE/conf/security/java.security and is the jar findable (through j8 JRE/lib/ext is good)? (If the first part is true your code wouldn't need the Security.addProvider call. Remember BouncyCastlePQCProvider and BouncyCastleProvider are different.)
    – dave_thompson_085
    Nov 22 at 22:29












  • Those instructions are for building and signing your own provider. Leave those java.security files alone. Bouncycastle has already gotten their provider jar properly signed, just place the bcprov-jdk15on-160.jar file on your classpath and add the provider as in the example.
    – James K Polk
    Nov 22 at 22:58












  • @dave_thompson_085 thank you but as of java9(or even 8 i dont know) extensions mechanism are no longer supported; Use -classpath instead. @JamesKPolk thank you very much this helps a lot, though i will not be able to add the provider as in the example as I don't intend using it to write java code but only to use jarsigner with it through command line interface. So how would I add it statically? (as the example is used to add it dynamically)
    – Nicolas Brauer
    Nov 23 at 8:53








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    On checking, keytool and jarsigner don't use the normal classpath, so you also need -providerpath jarfile to find the provider. However, it appears keytool only uses the init(int) overload and XMSSKeyPairGeneratorSpi rejects that; it wants AlgorithmParameterSpec specifically XMSSParameterSpec, or no init at all -- and if I try the latter, it does generates a keypair, but the resulting keys can't be encoded and thus can't be stored. Bleah. I think you'll have to code the generation. I haven't looked at the signature side yet.
    – dave_thompson_085
    Nov 24 at 23:48













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Here is an example taken almost verbatim from the Bouncycastle source code in org.bouncycastle.pqc.jcajce.provider.test.XMSSMTTest. This code was run on Java 8.



import org.bouncycastle.pqc.jcajce.interfaces.StateAwareSignature;
import org.bouncycastle.pqc.jcajce.provider.BouncyCastlePQCProvider;
import org.bouncycastle.pqc.jcajce.spec.XMSSMTParameterSpec;
import org.bouncycastle.util.Strings;

import java.security.*;

public class Main {

private static void fail(boolean condition, String msg) {
if (condition) {
throw new RuntimeException(msg);
}
}

public static void main(String args) throws Exception {
Security.addProvider(new BouncyCastlePQCProvider());
byte msg = Strings.toByteArray("Cthulhu Fthagn --What a wonderful phrase!Cthulhu Fthagn --Say it and you're crazed!");
KeyPairGenerator kpg = KeyPairGenerator.getInstance("XMSSMT", "BCPQC");

kpg.initialize(new XMSSMTParameterSpec(20, 10, XMSSMTParameterSpec.SHA256), new SecureRandom());

KeyPair kp = kpg.generateKeyPair();

Signature sig = Signature.getInstance("SHA256withXMSSMT", "BCPQC");

fail(!(sig instanceof StateAwareSignature), "wrong signature instance");

StateAwareSignature xmssSig = (StateAwareSignature) sig;

xmssSig.initSign(kp.getPrivate());

fail(!xmssSig.isSigningCapable(), "signature object is not signing-capable");

xmssSig.update(msg, 0, msg.length);

byte s = sig.sign();

PrivateKey nKey = xmssSig.getUpdatedPrivateKey();

fail(kp.getPrivate().equals(nKey), "");
fail(xmssSig.isSigningCapable(), "signature object is signing-capable");

xmssSig.update(msg, 0, msg.length);

try {
sig.sign();
fail(true, "no exception after key extraction");
} catch (SignatureException e) {
fail(!"signing key no longer usable".equals(e.getMessage()), "wrong exception");
}

try {
xmssSig.getUpdatedPrivateKey();
fail(true, "no exception after key extraction");
} catch (IllegalStateException e) {
fail(!"signature object not in a signing state".equals(e.getMessage()), "wrong exception");
}

xmssSig.initSign(nKey);

xmssSig.update(msg, 0, msg.length);

s = sig.sign();

xmssSig.initVerify(kp.getPublic());

xmssSig.update(msg, 0, msg.length);

fail(!xmssSig.verify(s), "verification failure");
}
}


There are other examples in that file as well. Source code is available here.






share|improve this answer























  • Thank you very much James, when I try to implement the BouncyCastlePQCProvider to the JCA like described here under Step 8, it does not get recognized. keytool -genkeypair -alias <alias> -keyalg xmss prompts: no such algorithm exeption which means the BCProvider does not get recognized (as it clearly does provide the xmss alg for keygen). As you did already help me a lot, might you have an idea for this as well ? ^^
    – Nicolas Brauer
    Nov 22 at 20:41












  • @NicolasBrauer: is the provider configured in your JRE/lib/security/java.security or j9+ JRE/conf/security/java.security and is the jar findable (through j8 JRE/lib/ext is good)? (If the first part is true your code wouldn't need the Security.addProvider call. Remember BouncyCastlePQCProvider and BouncyCastleProvider are different.)
    – dave_thompson_085
    Nov 22 at 22:29












  • Those instructions are for building and signing your own provider. Leave those java.security files alone. Bouncycastle has already gotten their provider jar properly signed, just place the bcprov-jdk15on-160.jar file on your classpath and add the provider as in the example.
    – James K Polk
    Nov 22 at 22:58












  • @dave_thompson_085 thank you but as of java9(or even 8 i dont know) extensions mechanism are no longer supported; Use -classpath instead. @JamesKPolk thank you very much this helps a lot, though i will not be able to add the provider as in the example as I don't intend using it to write java code but only to use jarsigner with it through command line interface. So how would I add it statically? (as the example is used to add it dynamically)
    – Nicolas Brauer
    Nov 23 at 8:53








  • 1




    On checking, keytool and jarsigner don't use the normal classpath, so you also need -providerpath jarfile to find the provider. However, it appears keytool only uses the init(int) overload and XMSSKeyPairGeneratorSpi rejects that; it wants AlgorithmParameterSpec specifically XMSSParameterSpec, or no init at all -- and if I try the latter, it does generates a keypair, but the resulting keys can't be encoded and thus can't be stored. Bleah. I think you'll have to code the generation. I haven't looked at the signature side yet.
    – dave_thompson_085
    Nov 24 at 23:48

















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Here is an example taken almost verbatim from the Bouncycastle source code in org.bouncycastle.pqc.jcajce.provider.test.XMSSMTTest. This code was run on Java 8.



import org.bouncycastle.pqc.jcajce.interfaces.StateAwareSignature;
import org.bouncycastle.pqc.jcajce.provider.BouncyCastlePQCProvider;
import org.bouncycastle.pqc.jcajce.spec.XMSSMTParameterSpec;
import org.bouncycastle.util.Strings;

import java.security.*;

public class Main {

private static void fail(boolean condition, String msg) {
if (condition) {
throw new RuntimeException(msg);
}
}

public static void main(String args) throws Exception {
Security.addProvider(new BouncyCastlePQCProvider());
byte msg = Strings.toByteArray("Cthulhu Fthagn --What a wonderful phrase!Cthulhu Fthagn --Say it and you're crazed!");
KeyPairGenerator kpg = KeyPairGenerator.getInstance("XMSSMT", "BCPQC");

kpg.initialize(new XMSSMTParameterSpec(20, 10, XMSSMTParameterSpec.SHA256), new SecureRandom());

KeyPair kp = kpg.generateKeyPair();

Signature sig = Signature.getInstance("SHA256withXMSSMT", "BCPQC");

fail(!(sig instanceof StateAwareSignature), "wrong signature instance");

StateAwareSignature xmssSig = (StateAwareSignature) sig;

xmssSig.initSign(kp.getPrivate());

fail(!xmssSig.isSigningCapable(), "signature object is not signing-capable");

xmssSig.update(msg, 0, msg.length);

byte s = sig.sign();

PrivateKey nKey = xmssSig.getUpdatedPrivateKey();

fail(kp.getPrivate().equals(nKey), "");
fail(xmssSig.isSigningCapable(), "signature object is signing-capable");

xmssSig.update(msg, 0, msg.length);

try {
sig.sign();
fail(true, "no exception after key extraction");
} catch (SignatureException e) {
fail(!"signing key no longer usable".equals(e.getMessage()), "wrong exception");
}

try {
xmssSig.getUpdatedPrivateKey();
fail(true, "no exception after key extraction");
} catch (IllegalStateException e) {
fail(!"signature object not in a signing state".equals(e.getMessage()), "wrong exception");
}

xmssSig.initSign(nKey);

xmssSig.update(msg, 0, msg.length);

s = sig.sign();

xmssSig.initVerify(kp.getPublic());

xmssSig.update(msg, 0, msg.length);

fail(!xmssSig.verify(s), "verification failure");
}
}


There are other examples in that file as well. Source code is available here.






share|improve this answer























  • Thank you very much James, when I try to implement the BouncyCastlePQCProvider to the JCA like described here under Step 8, it does not get recognized. keytool -genkeypair -alias <alias> -keyalg xmss prompts: no such algorithm exeption which means the BCProvider does not get recognized (as it clearly does provide the xmss alg for keygen). As you did already help me a lot, might you have an idea for this as well ? ^^
    – Nicolas Brauer
    Nov 22 at 20:41












  • @NicolasBrauer: is the provider configured in your JRE/lib/security/java.security or j9+ JRE/conf/security/java.security and is the jar findable (through j8 JRE/lib/ext is good)? (If the first part is true your code wouldn't need the Security.addProvider call. Remember BouncyCastlePQCProvider and BouncyCastleProvider are different.)
    – dave_thompson_085
    Nov 22 at 22:29












  • Those instructions are for building and signing your own provider. Leave those java.security files alone. Bouncycastle has already gotten their provider jar properly signed, just place the bcprov-jdk15on-160.jar file on your classpath and add the provider as in the example.
    – James K Polk
    Nov 22 at 22:58












  • @dave_thompson_085 thank you but as of java9(or even 8 i dont know) extensions mechanism are no longer supported; Use -classpath instead. @JamesKPolk thank you very much this helps a lot, though i will not be able to add the provider as in the example as I don't intend using it to write java code but only to use jarsigner with it through command line interface. So how would I add it statically? (as the example is used to add it dynamically)
    – Nicolas Brauer
    Nov 23 at 8:53








  • 1




    On checking, keytool and jarsigner don't use the normal classpath, so you also need -providerpath jarfile to find the provider. However, it appears keytool only uses the init(int) overload and XMSSKeyPairGeneratorSpi rejects that; it wants AlgorithmParameterSpec specifically XMSSParameterSpec, or no init at all -- and if I try the latter, it does generates a keypair, but the resulting keys can't be encoded and thus can't be stored. Bleah. I think you'll have to code the generation. I haven't looked at the signature side yet.
    – dave_thompson_085
    Nov 24 at 23:48















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Here is an example taken almost verbatim from the Bouncycastle source code in org.bouncycastle.pqc.jcajce.provider.test.XMSSMTTest. This code was run on Java 8.



import org.bouncycastle.pqc.jcajce.interfaces.StateAwareSignature;
import org.bouncycastle.pqc.jcajce.provider.BouncyCastlePQCProvider;
import org.bouncycastle.pqc.jcajce.spec.XMSSMTParameterSpec;
import org.bouncycastle.util.Strings;

import java.security.*;

public class Main {

private static void fail(boolean condition, String msg) {
if (condition) {
throw new RuntimeException(msg);
}
}

public static void main(String args) throws Exception {
Security.addProvider(new BouncyCastlePQCProvider());
byte msg = Strings.toByteArray("Cthulhu Fthagn --What a wonderful phrase!Cthulhu Fthagn --Say it and you're crazed!");
KeyPairGenerator kpg = KeyPairGenerator.getInstance("XMSSMT", "BCPQC");

kpg.initialize(new XMSSMTParameterSpec(20, 10, XMSSMTParameterSpec.SHA256), new SecureRandom());

KeyPair kp = kpg.generateKeyPair();

Signature sig = Signature.getInstance("SHA256withXMSSMT", "BCPQC");

fail(!(sig instanceof StateAwareSignature), "wrong signature instance");

StateAwareSignature xmssSig = (StateAwareSignature) sig;

xmssSig.initSign(kp.getPrivate());

fail(!xmssSig.isSigningCapable(), "signature object is not signing-capable");

xmssSig.update(msg, 0, msg.length);

byte s = sig.sign();

PrivateKey nKey = xmssSig.getUpdatedPrivateKey();

fail(kp.getPrivate().equals(nKey), "");
fail(xmssSig.isSigningCapable(), "signature object is signing-capable");

xmssSig.update(msg, 0, msg.length);

try {
sig.sign();
fail(true, "no exception after key extraction");
} catch (SignatureException e) {
fail(!"signing key no longer usable".equals(e.getMessage()), "wrong exception");
}

try {
xmssSig.getUpdatedPrivateKey();
fail(true, "no exception after key extraction");
} catch (IllegalStateException e) {
fail(!"signature object not in a signing state".equals(e.getMessage()), "wrong exception");
}

xmssSig.initSign(nKey);

xmssSig.update(msg, 0, msg.length);

s = sig.sign();

xmssSig.initVerify(kp.getPublic());

xmssSig.update(msg, 0, msg.length);

fail(!xmssSig.verify(s), "verification failure");
}
}


There are other examples in that file as well. Source code is available here.






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Here is an example taken almost verbatim from the Bouncycastle source code in org.bouncycastle.pqc.jcajce.provider.test.XMSSMTTest. This code was run on Java 8.



import org.bouncycastle.pqc.jcajce.interfaces.StateAwareSignature;
import org.bouncycastle.pqc.jcajce.provider.BouncyCastlePQCProvider;
import org.bouncycastle.pqc.jcajce.spec.XMSSMTParameterSpec;
import org.bouncycastle.util.Strings;

import java.security.*;

public class Main {

private static void fail(boolean condition, String msg) {
if (condition) {
throw new RuntimeException(msg);
}
}

public static void main(String args) throws Exception {
Security.addProvider(new BouncyCastlePQCProvider());
byte msg = Strings.toByteArray("Cthulhu Fthagn --What a wonderful phrase!Cthulhu Fthagn --Say it and you're crazed!");
KeyPairGenerator kpg = KeyPairGenerator.getInstance("XMSSMT", "BCPQC");

kpg.initialize(new XMSSMTParameterSpec(20, 10, XMSSMTParameterSpec.SHA256), new SecureRandom());

KeyPair kp = kpg.generateKeyPair();

Signature sig = Signature.getInstance("SHA256withXMSSMT", "BCPQC");

fail(!(sig instanceof StateAwareSignature), "wrong signature instance");

StateAwareSignature xmssSig = (StateAwareSignature) sig;

xmssSig.initSign(kp.getPrivate());

fail(!xmssSig.isSigningCapable(), "signature object is not signing-capable");

xmssSig.update(msg, 0, msg.length);

byte s = sig.sign();

PrivateKey nKey = xmssSig.getUpdatedPrivateKey();

fail(kp.getPrivate().equals(nKey), "");
fail(xmssSig.isSigningCapable(), "signature object is signing-capable");

xmssSig.update(msg, 0, msg.length);

try {
sig.sign();
fail(true, "no exception after key extraction");
} catch (SignatureException e) {
fail(!"signing key no longer usable".equals(e.getMessage()), "wrong exception");
}

try {
xmssSig.getUpdatedPrivateKey();
fail(true, "no exception after key extraction");
} catch (IllegalStateException e) {
fail(!"signature object not in a signing state".equals(e.getMessage()), "wrong exception");
}

xmssSig.initSign(nKey);

xmssSig.update(msg, 0, msg.length);

s = sig.sign();

xmssSig.initVerify(kp.getPublic());

xmssSig.update(msg, 0, msg.length);

fail(!xmssSig.verify(s), "verification failure");
}
}


There are other examples in that file as well. Source code is available here.







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  • Thank you very much James, when I try to implement the BouncyCastlePQCProvider to the JCA like described here under Step 8, it does not get recognized. keytool -genkeypair -alias <alias> -keyalg xmss prompts: no such algorithm exeption which means the BCProvider does not get recognized (as it clearly does provide the xmss alg for keygen). As you did already help me a lot, might you have an idea for this as well ? ^^
    – Nicolas Brauer
    Nov 22 at 20:41












  • @NicolasBrauer: is the provider configured in your JRE/lib/security/java.security or j9+ JRE/conf/security/java.security and is the jar findable (through j8 JRE/lib/ext is good)? (If the first part is true your code wouldn't need the Security.addProvider call. Remember BouncyCastlePQCProvider and BouncyCastleProvider are different.)
    – dave_thompson_085
    Nov 22 at 22:29












  • Those instructions are for building and signing your own provider. Leave those java.security files alone. Bouncycastle has already gotten their provider jar properly signed, just place the bcprov-jdk15on-160.jar file on your classpath and add the provider as in the example.
    – James K Polk
    Nov 22 at 22:58












  • @dave_thompson_085 thank you but as of java9(or even 8 i dont know) extensions mechanism are no longer supported; Use -classpath instead. @JamesKPolk thank you very much this helps a lot, though i will not be able to add the provider as in the example as I don't intend using it to write java code but only to use jarsigner with it through command line interface. So how would I add it statically? (as the example is used to add it dynamically)
    – Nicolas Brauer
    Nov 23 at 8:53








  • 1




    On checking, keytool and jarsigner don't use the normal classpath, so you also need -providerpath jarfile to find the provider. However, it appears keytool only uses the init(int) overload and XMSSKeyPairGeneratorSpi rejects that; it wants AlgorithmParameterSpec specifically XMSSParameterSpec, or no init at all -- and if I try the latter, it does generates a keypair, but the resulting keys can't be encoded and thus can't be stored. Bleah. I think you'll have to code the generation. I haven't looked at the signature side yet.
    – dave_thompson_085
    Nov 24 at 23:48




















  • Thank you very much James, when I try to implement the BouncyCastlePQCProvider to the JCA like described here under Step 8, it does not get recognized. keytool -genkeypair -alias <alias> -keyalg xmss prompts: no such algorithm exeption which means the BCProvider does not get recognized (as it clearly does provide the xmss alg for keygen). As you did already help me a lot, might you have an idea for this as well ? ^^
    – Nicolas Brauer
    Nov 22 at 20:41












  • @NicolasBrauer: is the provider configured in your JRE/lib/security/java.security or j9+ JRE/conf/security/java.security and is the jar findable (through j8 JRE/lib/ext is good)? (If the first part is true your code wouldn't need the Security.addProvider call. Remember BouncyCastlePQCProvider and BouncyCastleProvider are different.)
    – dave_thompson_085
    Nov 22 at 22:29












  • Those instructions are for building and signing your own provider. Leave those java.security files alone. Bouncycastle has already gotten their provider jar properly signed, just place the bcprov-jdk15on-160.jar file on your classpath and add the provider as in the example.
    – James K Polk
    Nov 22 at 22:58












  • @dave_thompson_085 thank you but as of java9(or even 8 i dont know) extensions mechanism are no longer supported; Use -classpath instead. @JamesKPolk thank you very much this helps a lot, though i will not be able to add the provider as in the example as I don't intend using it to write java code but only to use jarsigner with it through command line interface. So how would I add it statically? (as the example is used to add it dynamically)
    – Nicolas Brauer
    Nov 23 at 8:53








  • 1




    On checking, keytool and jarsigner don't use the normal classpath, so you also need -providerpath jarfile to find the provider. However, it appears keytool only uses the init(int) overload and XMSSKeyPairGeneratorSpi rejects that; it wants AlgorithmParameterSpec specifically XMSSParameterSpec, or no init at all -- and if I try the latter, it does generates a keypair, but the resulting keys can't be encoded and thus can't be stored. Bleah. I think you'll have to code the generation. I haven't looked at the signature side yet.
    – dave_thompson_085
    Nov 24 at 23:48


















Thank you very much James, when I try to implement the BouncyCastlePQCProvider to the JCA like described here under Step 8, it does not get recognized. keytool -genkeypair -alias <alias> -keyalg xmss prompts: no such algorithm exeption which means the BCProvider does not get recognized (as it clearly does provide the xmss alg for keygen). As you did already help me a lot, might you have an idea for this as well ? ^^
– Nicolas Brauer
Nov 22 at 20:41






Thank you very much James, when I try to implement the BouncyCastlePQCProvider to the JCA like described here under Step 8, it does not get recognized. keytool -genkeypair -alias <alias> -keyalg xmss prompts: no such algorithm exeption which means the BCProvider does not get recognized (as it clearly does provide the xmss alg for keygen). As you did already help me a lot, might you have an idea for this as well ? ^^
– Nicolas Brauer
Nov 22 at 20:41














@NicolasBrauer: is the provider configured in your JRE/lib/security/java.security or j9+ JRE/conf/security/java.security and is the jar findable (through j8 JRE/lib/ext is good)? (If the first part is true your code wouldn't need the Security.addProvider call. Remember BouncyCastlePQCProvider and BouncyCastleProvider are different.)
– dave_thompson_085
Nov 22 at 22:29






@NicolasBrauer: is the provider configured in your JRE/lib/security/java.security or j9+ JRE/conf/security/java.security and is the jar findable (through j8 JRE/lib/ext is good)? (If the first part is true your code wouldn't need the Security.addProvider call. Remember BouncyCastlePQCProvider and BouncyCastleProvider are different.)
– dave_thompson_085
Nov 22 at 22:29














Those instructions are for building and signing your own provider. Leave those java.security files alone. Bouncycastle has already gotten their provider jar properly signed, just place the bcprov-jdk15on-160.jar file on your classpath and add the provider as in the example.
– James K Polk
Nov 22 at 22:58






Those instructions are for building and signing your own provider. Leave those java.security files alone. Bouncycastle has already gotten their provider jar properly signed, just place the bcprov-jdk15on-160.jar file on your classpath and add the provider as in the example.
– James K Polk
Nov 22 at 22:58














@dave_thompson_085 thank you but as of java9(or even 8 i dont know) extensions mechanism are no longer supported; Use -classpath instead. @JamesKPolk thank you very much this helps a lot, though i will not be able to add the provider as in the example as I don't intend using it to write java code but only to use jarsigner with it through command line interface. So how would I add it statically? (as the example is used to add it dynamically)
– Nicolas Brauer
Nov 23 at 8:53






@dave_thompson_085 thank you but as of java9(or even 8 i dont know) extensions mechanism are no longer supported; Use -classpath instead. @JamesKPolk thank you very much this helps a lot, though i will not be able to add the provider as in the example as I don't intend using it to write java code but only to use jarsigner with it through command line interface. So how would I add it statically? (as the example is used to add it dynamically)
– Nicolas Brauer
Nov 23 at 8:53






1




1




On checking, keytool and jarsigner don't use the normal classpath, so you also need -providerpath jarfile to find the provider. However, it appears keytool only uses the init(int) overload and XMSSKeyPairGeneratorSpi rejects that; it wants AlgorithmParameterSpec specifically XMSSParameterSpec, or no init at all -- and if I try the latter, it does generates a keypair, but the resulting keys can't be encoded and thus can't be stored. Bleah. I think you'll have to code the generation. I haven't looked at the signature side yet.
– dave_thompson_085
Nov 24 at 23:48






On checking, keytool and jarsigner don't use the normal classpath, so you also need -providerpath jarfile to find the provider. However, it appears keytool only uses the init(int) overload and XMSSKeyPairGeneratorSpi rejects that; it wants AlgorithmParameterSpec specifically XMSSParameterSpec, or no init at all -- and if I try the latter, it does generates a keypair, but the resulting keys can't be encoded and thus can't be stored. Bleah. I think you'll have to code the generation. I haven't looked at the signature side yet.
– dave_thompson_085
Nov 24 at 23:48




















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