What does it mean to say “goodnight” instead of “goodbye”?











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For example: in Helena by My Chemical Romance, he says goodnight to his grandma instead of saying goodbye to her. Is this only something you say to someone who's died? Is it just easier to say goodnight instead of goodbye? What if someone says this to someone who hasn't died? What do they mean? Do they mean that they may come back at some point and they're just saying goodnight for now? Does saying goodnight mean goodbye for now or see you later?










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  • I don't know the film. But from your description, it sounds as if he is making a point of avoiding saying goodbye - perhaps because that would be too painful.
    – Colin Fine
    2 hours ago






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    Lyrics of pop songs are not reliable examples of usage. Often the words are chosen to fit the tune, or to provide a rhyme. However, apparently the song is said to be a tribute to the (then) recently defunct grandmother of two former band members. "Good night", which is normally said to someone about to sleep, is often seen in sentimental remarks e.g. in social media, addressed to recently dead loved ones, as if the belief that the departed person is not dead, but only sleeping, is a comfort.
    – Michael Harvey
    2 hours ago












  • Adding to what Michael said, this is the case in every language I know of (and I struggle to think of a reason why it wouldn't be the case in any language I don't). Meaning to say, this is really off-topic as not specific to English.
    – RegDwigнt
    1 hour ago










  • @Reg - offtopic? Absolutely.
    – Michael Harvey
    1 hour ago










  • When I was six years old, my mother told me that my grandmother had "fallen asleep in Jesus", which I found a terrifying notion. I think I tried not to sleep that night.
    – Michael Harvey
    1 hour ago















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For example: in Helena by My Chemical Romance, he says goodnight to his grandma instead of saying goodbye to her. Is this only something you say to someone who's died? Is it just easier to say goodnight instead of goodbye? What if someone says this to someone who hasn't died? What do they mean? Do they mean that they may come back at some point and they're just saying goodnight for now? Does saying goodnight mean goodbye for now or see you later?










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  • I don't know the film. But from your description, it sounds as if he is making a point of avoiding saying goodbye - perhaps because that would be too painful.
    – Colin Fine
    2 hours ago






  • 2




    Lyrics of pop songs are not reliable examples of usage. Often the words are chosen to fit the tune, or to provide a rhyme. However, apparently the song is said to be a tribute to the (then) recently defunct grandmother of two former band members. "Good night", which is normally said to someone about to sleep, is often seen in sentimental remarks e.g. in social media, addressed to recently dead loved ones, as if the belief that the departed person is not dead, but only sleeping, is a comfort.
    – Michael Harvey
    2 hours ago












  • Adding to what Michael said, this is the case in every language I know of (and I struggle to think of a reason why it wouldn't be the case in any language I don't). Meaning to say, this is really off-topic as not specific to English.
    – RegDwigнt
    1 hour ago










  • @Reg - offtopic? Absolutely.
    – Michael Harvey
    1 hour ago










  • When I was six years old, my mother told me that my grandmother had "fallen asleep in Jesus", which I found a terrifying notion. I think I tried not to sleep that night.
    – Michael Harvey
    1 hour ago













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For example: in Helena by My Chemical Romance, he says goodnight to his grandma instead of saying goodbye to her. Is this only something you say to someone who's died? Is it just easier to say goodnight instead of goodbye? What if someone says this to someone who hasn't died? What do they mean? Do they mean that they may come back at some point and they're just saying goodnight for now? Does saying goodnight mean goodbye for now or see you later?










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For example: in Helena by My Chemical Romance, he says goodnight to his grandma instead of saying goodbye to her. Is this only something you say to someone who's died? Is it just easier to say goodnight instead of goodbye? What if someone says this to someone who hasn't died? What do they mean? Do they mean that they may come back at some point and they're just saying goodnight for now? Does saying goodnight mean goodbye for now or see you later?







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  • I don't know the film. But from your description, it sounds as if he is making a point of avoiding saying goodbye - perhaps because that would be too painful.
    – Colin Fine
    2 hours ago






  • 2




    Lyrics of pop songs are not reliable examples of usage. Often the words are chosen to fit the tune, or to provide a rhyme. However, apparently the song is said to be a tribute to the (then) recently defunct grandmother of two former band members. "Good night", which is normally said to someone about to sleep, is often seen in sentimental remarks e.g. in social media, addressed to recently dead loved ones, as if the belief that the departed person is not dead, but only sleeping, is a comfort.
    – Michael Harvey
    2 hours ago












  • Adding to what Michael said, this is the case in every language I know of (and I struggle to think of a reason why it wouldn't be the case in any language I don't). Meaning to say, this is really off-topic as not specific to English.
    – RegDwigнt
    1 hour ago










  • @Reg - offtopic? Absolutely.
    – Michael Harvey
    1 hour ago










  • When I was six years old, my mother told me that my grandmother had "fallen asleep in Jesus", which I found a terrifying notion. I think I tried not to sleep that night.
    – Michael Harvey
    1 hour ago


















  • I don't know the film. But from your description, it sounds as if he is making a point of avoiding saying goodbye - perhaps because that would be too painful.
    – Colin Fine
    2 hours ago






  • 2




    Lyrics of pop songs are not reliable examples of usage. Often the words are chosen to fit the tune, or to provide a rhyme. However, apparently the song is said to be a tribute to the (then) recently defunct grandmother of two former band members. "Good night", which is normally said to someone about to sleep, is often seen in sentimental remarks e.g. in social media, addressed to recently dead loved ones, as if the belief that the departed person is not dead, but only sleeping, is a comfort.
    – Michael Harvey
    2 hours ago












  • Adding to what Michael said, this is the case in every language I know of (and I struggle to think of a reason why it wouldn't be the case in any language I don't). Meaning to say, this is really off-topic as not specific to English.
    – RegDwigнt
    1 hour ago










  • @Reg - offtopic? Absolutely.
    – Michael Harvey
    1 hour ago










  • When I was six years old, my mother told me that my grandmother had "fallen asleep in Jesus", which I found a terrifying notion. I think I tried not to sleep that night.
    – Michael Harvey
    1 hour ago
















I don't know the film. But from your description, it sounds as if he is making a point of avoiding saying goodbye - perhaps because that would be too painful.
– Colin Fine
2 hours ago




I don't know the film. But from your description, it sounds as if he is making a point of avoiding saying goodbye - perhaps because that would be too painful.
– Colin Fine
2 hours ago




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Lyrics of pop songs are not reliable examples of usage. Often the words are chosen to fit the tune, or to provide a rhyme. However, apparently the song is said to be a tribute to the (then) recently defunct grandmother of two former band members. "Good night", which is normally said to someone about to sleep, is often seen in sentimental remarks e.g. in social media, addressed to recently dead loved ones, as if the belief that the departed person is not dead, but only sleeping, is a comfort.
– Michael Harvey
2 hours ago






Lyrics of pop songs are not reliable examples of usage. Often the words are chosen to fit the tune, or to provide a rhyme. However, apparently the song is said to be a tribute to the (then) recently defunct grandmother of two former band members. "Good night", which is normally said to someone about to sleep, is often seen in sentimental remarks e.g. in social media, addressed to recently dead loved ones, as if the belief that the departed person is not dead, but only sleeping, is a comfort.
– Michael Harvey
2 hours ago














Adding to what Michael said, this is the case in every language I know of (and I struggle to think of a reason why it wouldn't be the case in any language I don't). Meaning to say, this is really off-topic as not specific to English.
– RegDwigнt
1 hour ago




Adding to what Michael said, this is the case in every language I know of (and I struggle to think of a reason why it wouldn't be the case in any language I don't). Meaning to say, this is really off-topic as not specific to English.
– RegDwigнt
1 hour ago












@Reg - offtopic? Absolutely.
– Michael Harvey
1 hour ago




@Reg - offtopic? Absolutely.
– Michael Harvey
1 hour ago












When I was six years old, my mother told me that my grandmother had "fallen asleep in Jesus", which I found a terrifying notion. I think I tried not to sleep that night.
– Michael Harvey
1 hour ago




When I was six years old, my mother told me that my grandmother had "fallen asleep in Jesus", which I found a terrifying notion. I think I tried not to sleep that night.
– Michael Harvey
1 hour ago















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