Additional Oral Law classification systems?
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These are the systems of organizing the Oral Law that are known to me:
By weekly Parashah (like Midrash Rabbah)
The 6 Sdarim and the 60 (or more) Tractates.
Rambam's 14 books of Mishnah Torah
Books on the 613 Mitzvahs only (Chinuch, Sma"G)
Partial law (only potentially observable Halochos): the 4 Turim and Shu"A and Kitzurim
Are there additional systems of organizing the Halochos of the Oral Law? Are there any contemporary research or proposals?
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These are the systems of organizing the Oral Law that are known to me:
By weekly Parashah (like Midrash Rabbah)
The 6 Sdarim and the 60 (or more) Tractates.
Rambam's 14 books of Mishnah Torah
Books on the 613 Mitzvahs only (Chinuch, Sma"G)
Partial law (only potentially observable Halochos): the 4 Turim and Shu"A and Kitzurim
Are there additional systems of organizing the Halochos of the Oral Law? Are there any contemporary research or proposals?
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What do you mean by partial practical law? That they don't cover the entire oral torah?
– robev
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Can you add some motivation for wanting this information? Surely there are a plethora of possible organizational schemes
– Double AA♦
3 hours ago
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The Chareidim organizes by body part. And arguably, the Tur is a variant of the 6 sedarim, collapsed because there is little to say about 2 of the sedarim nowadays: Orakh Chaim = Zera'im (Berakhos) + Mo'eid; Yoreh Dei'ah = Qodshim + Taharos (including the mesechtos qetanos); Even haEzer = Nashim; Choshein Mishpat = Neziqin.
– Micha Berger
3 hours ago
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"1. By weekly Parashah (like Midrash Rabbah)". IR: Granted that Midrash Rabbah is part of the Oral Torah, however Midrash Rabbah is NOT an organization of the Oral LAW.
– IsraelReader
2 hours ago
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@MichaBerger The 6 sedarim doesn't seem to be a principle of the Tur's contents. e.g. tsitsit and tefillin should be in Yore De'a (in Mishnah in Menachot), interest should be in Choshen Mishpat (in Mishnah in Bava Metsia)
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These are the systems of organizing the Oral Law that are known to me:
By weekly Parashah (like Midrash Rabbah)
The 6 Sdarim and the 60 (or more) Tractates.
Rambam's 14 books of Mishnah Torah
Books on the 613 Mitzvahs only (Chinuch, Sma"G)
Partial law (only potentially observable Halochos): the 4 Turim and Shu"A and Kitzurim
Are there additional systems of organizing the Halochos of the Oral Law? Are there any contemporary research or proposals?
halacha-theory mitzvah oral-torah
These are the systems of organizing the Oral Law that are known to me:
By weekly Parashah (like Midrash Rabbah)
The 6 Sdarim and the 60 (or more) Tractates.
Rambam's 14 books of Mishnah Torah
Books on the 613 Mitzvahs only (Chinuch, Sma"G)
Partial law (only potentially observable Halochos): the 4 Turim and Shu"A and Kitzurim
Are there additional systems of organizing the Halochos of the Oral Law? Are there any contemporary research or proposals?
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What do you mean by partial practical law? That they don't cover the entire oral torah?
– robev
5 hours ago
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Can you add some motivation for wanting this information? Surely there are a plethora of possible organizational schemes
– Double AA♦
3 hours ago
1
The Chareidim organizes by body part. And arguably, the Tur is a variant of the 6 sedarim, collapsed because there is little to say about 2 of the sedarim nowadays: Orakh Chaim = Zera'im (Berakhos) + Mo'eid; Yoreh Dei'ah = Qodshim + Taharos (including the mesechtos qetanos); Even haEzer = Nashim; Choshein Mishpat = Neziqin.
– Micha Berger
3 hours ago
1
"1. By weekly Parashah (like Midrash Rabbah)". IR: Granted that Midrash Rabbah is part of the Oral Torah, however Midrash Rabbah is NOT an organization of the Oral LAW.
– IsraelReader
2 hours ago
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@MichaBerger The 6 sedarim doesn't seem to be a principle of the Tur's contents. e.g. tsitsit and tefillin should be in Yore De'a (in Mishnah in Menachot), interest should be in Choshen Mishpat (in Mishnah in Bava Metsia)
– b a
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What do you mean by partial practical law? That they don't cover the entire oral torah?
– robev
5 hours ago
2
Can you add some motivation for wanting this information? Surely there are a plethora of possible organizational schemes
– Double AA♦
3 hours ago
1
The Chareidim organizes by body part. And arguably, the Tur is a variant of the 6 sedarim, collapsed because there is little to say about 2 of the sedarim nowadays: Orakh Chaim = Zera'im (Berakhos) + Mo'eid; Yoreh Dei'ah = Qodshim + Taharos (including the mesechtos qetanos); Even haEzer = Nashim; Choshein Mishpat = Neziqin.
– Micha Berger
3 hours ago
1
"1. By weekly Parashah (like Midrash Rabbah)". IR: Granted that Midrash Rabbah is part of the Oral Torah, however Midrash Rabbah is NOT an organization of the Oral LAW.
– IsraelReader
2 hours ago
1
@MichaBerger The 6 sedarim doesn't seem to be a principle of the Tur's contents. e.g. tsitsit and tefillin should be in Yore De'a (in Mishnah in Menachot), interest should be in Choshen Mishpat (in Mishnah in Bava Metsia)
– b a
2 hours ago
What do you mean by partial practical law? That they don't cover the entire oral torah?
– robev
5 hours ago
What do you mean by partial practical law? That they don't cover the entire oral torah?
– robev
5 hours ago
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2
Can you add some motivation for wanting this information? Surely there are a plethora of possible organizational schemes
– Double AA♦
3 hours ago
Can you add some motivation for wanting this information? Surely there are a plethora of possible organizational schemes
– Double AA♦
3 hours ago
1
1
The Chareidim organizes by body part. And arguably, the Tur is a variant of the 6 sedarim, collapsed because there is little to say about 2 of the sedarim nowadays: Orakh Chaim = Zera'im (Berakhos) + Mo'eid; Yoreh Dei'ah = Qodshim + Taharos (including the mesechtos qetanos); Even haEzer = Nashim; Choshein Mishpat = Neziqin.
– Micha Berger
3 hours ago
The Chareidim organizes by body part. And arguably, the Tur is a variant of the 6 sedarim, collapsed because there is little to say about 2 of the sedarim nowadays: Orakh Chaim = Zera'im (Berakhos) + Mo'eid; Yoreh Dei'ah = Qodshim + Taharos (including the mesechtos qetanos); Even haEzer = Nashim; Choshein Mishpat = Neziqin.
– Micha Berger
3 hours ago
1
1
"1. By weekly Parashah (like Midrash Rabbah)". IR: Granted that Midrash Rabbah is part of the Oral Torah, however Midrash Rabbah is NOT an organization of the Oral LAW.
– IsraelReader
2 hours ago
"1. By weekly Parashah (like Midrash Rabbah)". IR: Granted that Midrash Rabbah is part of the Oral Torah, however Midrash Rabbah is NOT an organization of the Oral LAW.
– IsraelReader
2 hours ago
1
1
@MichaBerger The 6 sedarim doesn't seem to be a principle of the Tur's contents. e.g. tsitsit and tefillin should be in Yore De'a (in Mishnah in Menachot), interest should be in Choshen Mishpat (in Mishnah in Bava Metsia)
– b a
2 hours ago
@MichaBerger The 6 sedarim doesn't seem to be a principle of the Tur's contents. e.g. tsitsit and tefillin should be in Yore De'a (in Mishnah in Menachot), interest should be in Choshen Mishpat (in Mishnah in Bava Metsia)
– b a
2 hours ago
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R. Eliezer of Metz organized his Sefer Yereim under seven “pillars”:
- Arayot
- Food
- Things prohibited to benefit from
- Monetary prohibitions
- Matters which harm other people but do not involve theft
- Matters which affect only G-d
- Matters which affect only G-d and are not dependent on speech
Isn't that his #4, just dividing the 613 into 7?
– robev
4 hours ago
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@robev Arguably. But then again, Mishneh Torah is also the 613 divided into 14
– Joel K
4 hours ago
I think a clear difference is that the Chinuch Smag and the like cover only the 613 Mitzvos, where Rambam goes far beyond mentioning the Mitzvos only, but mimics the Talmud in covering a wide spectrum of dos and don'ts.
– Al Berko
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Rabbeinu Yona (Sha'arei Teshuva, gate 3) orders the commandments by severity of their punishment (מעלות חומר המצות ואזהרות וחלוק העונשים):
- Rabbinical commandments
- Positive commandments
- Negative commandments that can be rectified by a positive commandment
- Negative commandments not transgressed through an action
- Negative commandments transgressed through an action
- Commandments punished by death carried out by heaven
- Commandments punished by being cut off (karet)
- Commandments punished by death by a court
- Commandments one is obligated to give up one's life not to transgress
- Commandments punished by losing one's share in the World to Come
THis also covers the 613 Mitzvos only, not the "Whole Halacha". See my comment to Joel on the difference.
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
@AlBerko Wouldn't this scheme be able to cover all of the biblical and rabbinic commandments?
– b a
1 hour ago
I don't think he speaks of a system, he just shows that the Mitzvos are not equal and hierarchical.
– Al Berko
1 hour ago
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R. Eliezer of Metz organized his Sefer Yereim under seven “pillars”:
- Arayot
- Food
- Things prohibited to benefit from
- Monetary prohibitions
- Matters which harm other people but do not involve theft
- Matters which affect only G-d
- Matters which affect only G-d and are not dependent on speech
Isn't that his #4, just dividing the 613 into 7?
– robev
4 hours ago
2
@robev Arguably. But then again, Mishneh Torah is also the 613 divided into 14
– Joel K
4 hours ago
I think a clear difference is that the Chinuch Smag and the like cover only the 613 Mitzvos, where Rambam goes far beyond mentioning the Mitzvos only, but mimics the Talmud in covering a wide spectrum of dos and don'ts.
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
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R. Eliezer of Metz organized his Sefer Yereim under seven “pillars”:
- Arayot
- Food
- Things prohibited to benefit from
- Monetary prohibitions
- Matters which harm other people but do not involve theft
- Matters which affect only G-d
- Matters which affect only G-d and are not dependent on speech
Isn't that his #4, just dividing the 613 into 7?
– robev
4 hours ago
2
@robev Arguably. But then again, Mishneh Torah is also the 613 divided into 14
– Joel K
4 hours ago
I think a clear difference is that the Chinuch Smag and the like cover only the 613 Mitzvos, where Rambam goes far beyond mentioning the Mitzvos only, but mimics the Talmud in covering a wide spectrum of dos and don'ts.
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
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R. Eliezer of Metz organized his Sefer Yereim under seven “pillars”:
- Arayot
- Food
- Things prohibited to benefit from
- Monetary prohibitions
- Matters which harm other people but do not involve theft
- Matters which affect only G-d
- Matters which affect only G-d and are not dependent on speech
R. Eliezer of Metz organized his Sefer Yereim under seven “pillars”:
- Arayot
- Food
- Things prohibited to benefit from
- Monetary prohibitions
- Matters which harm other people but do not involve theft
- Matters which affect only G-d
- Matters which affect only G-d and are not dependent on speech
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Isn't that his #4, just dividing the 613 into 7?
– robev
4 hours ago
2
@robev Arguably. But then again, Mishneh Torah is also the 613 divided into 14
– Joel K
4 hours ago
I think a clear difference is that the Chinuch Smag and the like cover only the 613 Mitzvos, where Rambam goes far beyond mentioning the Mitzvos only, but mimics the Talmud in covering a wide spectrum of dos and don'ts.
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
add a comment |
Isn't that his #4, just dividing the 613 into 7?
– robev
4 hours ago
2
@robev Arguably. But then again, Mishneh Torah is also the 613 divided into 14
– Joel K
4 hours ago
I think a clear difference is that the Chinuch Smag and the like cover only the 613 Mitzvos, where Rambam goes far beyond mentioning the Mitzvos only, but mimics the Talmud in covering a wide spectrum of dos and don'ts.
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
Isn't that his #4, just dividing the 613 into 7?
– robev
4 hours ago
Isn't that his #4, just dividing the 613 into 7?
– robev
4 hours ago
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@robev Arguably. But then again, Mishneh Torah is also the 613 divided into 14
– Joel K
4 hours ago
@robev Arguably. But then again, Mishneh Torah is also the 613 divided into 14
– Joel K
4 hours ago
I think a clear difference is that the Chinuch Smag and the like cover only the 613 Mitzvos, where Rambam goes far beyond mentioning the Mitzvos only, but mimics the Talmud in covering a wide spectrum of dos and don'ts.
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
I think a clear difference is that the Chinuch Smag and the like cover only the 613 Mitzvos, where Rambam goes far beyond mentioning the Mitzvos only, but mimics the Talmud in covering a wide spectrum of dos and don'ts.
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
add a comment |
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Rabbeinu Yona (Sha'arei Teshuva, gate 3) orders the commandments by severity of their punishment (מעלות חומר המצות ואזהרות וחלוק העונשים):
- Rabbinical commandments
- Positive commandments
- Negative commandments that can be rectified by a positive commandment
- Negative commandments not transgressed through an action
- Negative commandments transgressed through an action
- Commandments punished by death carried out by heaven
- Commandments punished by being cut off (karet)
- Commandments punished by death by a court
- Commandments one is obligated to give up one's life not to transgress
- Commandments punished by losing one's share in the World to Come
THis also covers the 613 Mitzvos only, not the "Whole Halacha". See my comment to Joel on the difference.
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
@AlBerko Wouldn't this scheme be able to cover all of the biblical and rabbinic commandments?
– b a
1 hour ago
I don't think he speaks of a system, he just shows that the Mitzvos are not equal and hierarchical.
– Al Berko
1 hour ago
add a comment |
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Rabbeinu Yona (Sha'arei Teshuva, gate 3) orders the commandments by severity of their punishment (מעלות חומר המצות ואזהרות וחלוק העונשים):
- Rabbinical commandments
- Positive commandments
- Negative commandments that can be rectified by a positive commandment
- Negative commandments not transgressed through an action
- Negative commandments transgressed through an action
- Commandments punished by death carried out by heaven
- Commandments punished by being cut off (karet)
- Commandments punished by death by a court
- Commandments one is obligated to give up one's life not to transgress
- Commandments punished by losing one's share in the World to Come
THis also covers the 613 Mitzvos only, not the "Whole Halacha". See my comment to Joel on the difference.
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
@AlBerko Wouldn't this scheme be able to cover all of the biblical and rabbinic commandments?
– b a
1 hour ago
I don't think he speaks of a system, he just shows that the Mitzvos are not equal and hierarchical.
– Al Berko
1 hour ago
add a comment |
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Rabbeinu Yona (Sha'arei Teshuva, gate 3) orders the commandments by severity of their punishment (מעלות חומר המצות ואזהרות וחלוק העונשים):
- Rabbinical commandments
- Positive commandments
- Negative commandments that can be rectified by a positive commandment
- Negative commandments not transgressed through an action
- Negative commandments transgressed through an action
- Commandments punished by death carried out by heaven
- Commandments punished by being cut off (karet)
- Commandments punished by death by a court
- Commandments one is obligated to give up one's life not to transgress
- Commandments punished by losing one's share in the World to Come
Rabbeinu Yona (Sha'arei Teshuva, gate 3) orders the commandments by severity of their punishment (מעלות חומר המצות ואזהרות וחלוק העונשים):
- Rabbinical commandments
- Positive commandments
- Negative commandments that can be rectified by a positive commandment
- Negative commandments not transgressed through an action
- Negative commandments transgressed through an action
- Commandments punished by death carried out by heaven
- Commandments punished by being cut off (karet)
- Commandments punished by death by a court
- Commandments one is obligated to give up one's life not to transgress
- Commandments punished by losing one's share in the World to Come
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THis also covers the 613 Mitzvos only, not the "Whole Halacha". See my comment to Joel on the difference.
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
@AlBerko Wouldn't this scheme be able to cover all of the biblical and rabbinic commandments?
– b a
1 hour ago
I don't think he speaks of a system, he just shows that the Mitzvos are not equal and hierarchical.
– Al Berko
1 hour ago
add a comment |
THis also covers the 613 Mitzvos only, not the "Whole Halacha". See my comment to Joel on the difference.
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
@AlBerko Wouldn't this scheme be able to cover all of the biblical and rabbinic commandments?
– b a
1 hour ago
I don't think he speaks of a system, he just shows that the Mitzvos are not equal and hierarchical.
– Al Berko
1 hour ago
THis also covers the 613 Mitzvos only, not the "Whole Halacha". See my comment to Joel on the difference.
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
THis also covers the 613 Mitzvos only, not the "Whole Halacha". See my comment to Joel on the difference.
– Al Berko
2 hours ago
@AlBerko Wouldn't this scheme be able to cover all of the biblical and rabbinic commandments?
– b a
1 hour ago
@AlBerko Wouldn't this scheme be able to cover all of the biblical and rabbinic commandments?
– b a
1 hour ago
I don't think he speaks of a system, he just shows that the Mitzvos are not equal and hierarchical.
– Al Berko
1 hour ago
I don't think he speaks of a system, he just shows that the Mitzvos are not equal and hierarchical.
– Al Berko
1 hour ago
add a comment |
What do you mean by partial practical law? That they don't cover the entire oral torah?
– robev
5 hours ago
2
Can you add some motivation for wanting this information? Surely there are a plethora of possible organizational schemes
– Double AA♦
3 hours ago
1
The Chareidim organizes by body part. And arguably, the Tur is a variant of the 6 sedarim, collapsed because there is little to say about 2 of the sedarim nowadays: Orakh Chaim = Zera'im (Berakhos) + Mo'eid; Yoreh Dei'ah = Qodshim + Taharos (including the mesechtos qetanos); Even haEzer = Nashim; Choshein Mishpat = Neziqin.
– Micha Berger
3 hours ago
1
"1. By weekly Parashah (like Midrash Rabbah)". IR: Granted that Midrash Rabbah is part of the Oral Torah, however Midrash Rabbah is NOT an organization of the Oral LAW.
– IsraelReader
2 hours ago
1
@MichaBerger The 6 sedarim doesn't seem to be a principle of the Tur's contents. e.g. tsitsit and tefillin should be in Yore De'a (in Mishnah in Menachot), interest should be in Choshen Mishpat (in Mishnah in Bava Metsia)
– b a
2 hours ago