Has there ever been a major migration from the New World to the Old World? If not, why?
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Considerable research has been done on the ancient migration of humans from Northeast Asia to the Americas. Between that and Columbus, there were a few smaller migration events from elsewhere in the world — including the Viking travels to North America, and possible Austronesian travels to South America.
However, these are all in the direction of Old World —> New World. Has movement in the reverse direction ever been identified? I don't know of any. Even in modern times, it seems as though the direction of migration has always been Old World —> New World.
I assume the best bet for finding evidence would be by the Bering Sea. It seems like there was occasional contact between Alaska and Siberia in pre-Columbian times, which may hint that there was a major migration at some point.
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Considerable research has been done on the ancient migration of humans from Northeast Asia to the Americas. Between that and Columbus, there were a few smaller migration events from elsewhere in the world — including the Viking travels to North America, and possible Austronesian travels to South America.
However, these are all in the direction of Old World —> New World. Has movement in the reverse direction ever been identified? I don't know of any. Even in modern times, it seems as though the direction of migration has always been Old World —> New World.
I assume the best bet for finding evidence would be by the Bering Sea. It seems like there was occasional contact between Alaska and Siberia in pre-Columbian times, which may hint that there was a major migration at some point.
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Hm... interesting. Has there ever, even, been a major "backwards" migration, period? I mean, have people migrated back from Europe to the Middle East? From the Middle East back to Africa? (Depends a bit on how you define "major", but yes... curious.)
– DevSolar
1 hour ago
@DevSolar Sure, f.e. the Chinese Central Plains were originally colonised from South China; later nomadic incursions caused massive repeated mass migrations back into to the South.
– Semaphore♦
1 hour ago
@Semaphore: Thanks. I'm pretty "blind" as far as ancient Asian history is concerned. I found an example for a back-migration from the Americas, so that's settled anyway. ;-) But a good question!
– DevSolar
1 hour ago
@DevSolar Well, people tend to move from bad or crowded places to good and empty places. There are definitely smaller-scale cases where e.g. shifts in climate, resource depletion or hostile neighbors made some place hard to live in (and people migrated out) and when the area became hospitable again, they returned. The collapse of the bronze age civilizations might be one rather large example. People returned when conditions (and technology) improved.
– Luaan
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Considerable research has been done on the ancient migration of humans from Northeast Asia to the Americas. Between that and Columbus, there were a few smaller migration events from elsewhere in the world — including the Viking travels to North America, and possible Austronesian travels to South America.
However, these are all in the direction of Old World —> New World. Has movement in the reverse direction ever been identified? I don't know of any. Even in modern times, it seems as though the direction of migration has always been Old World —> New World.
I assume the best bet for finding evidence would be by the Bering Sea. It seems like there was occasional contact between Alaska and Siberia in pre-Columbian times, which may hint that there was a major migration at some point.
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Considerable research has been done on the ancient migration of humans from Northeast Asia to the Americas. Between that and Columbus, there were a few smaller migration events from elsewhere in the world — including the Viking travels to North America, and possible Austronesian travels to South America.
However, these are all in the direction of Old World —> New World. Has movement in the reverse direction ever been identified? I don't know of any. Even in modern times, it seems as though the direction of migration has always been Old World —> New World.
I assume the best bet for finding evidence would be by the Bering Sea. It seems like there was occasional contact between Alaska and Siberia in pre-Columbian times, which may hint that there was a major migration at some point.
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Hm... interesting. Has there ever, even, been a major "backwards" migration, period? I mean, have people migrated back from Europe to the Middle East? From the Middle East back to Africa? (Depends a bit on how you define "major", but yes... curious.)
– DevSolar
1 hour ago
@DevSolar Sure, f.e. the Chinese Central Plains were originally colonised from South China; later nomadic incursions caused massive repeated mass migrations back into to the South.
– Semaphore♦
1 hour ago
@Semaphore: Thanks. I'm pretty "blind" as far as ancient Asian history is concerned. I found an example for a back-migration from the Americas, so that's settled anyway. ;-) But a good question!
– DevSolar
1 hour ago
@DevSolar Well, people tend to move from bad or crowded places to good and empty places. There are definitely smaller-scale cases where e.g. shifts in climate, resource depletion or hostile neighbors made some place hard to live in (and people migrated out) and when the area became hospitable again, they returned. The collapse of the bronze age civilizations might be one rather large example. People returned when conditions (and technology) improved.
– Luaan
32 mins ago
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Hm... interesting. Has there ever, even, been a major "backwards" migration, period? I mean, have people migrated back from Europe to the Middle East? From the Middle East back to Africa? (Depends a bit on how you define "major", but yes... curious.)
– DevSolar
1 hour ago
@DevSolar Sure, f.e. the Chinese Central Plains were originally colonised from South China; later nomadic incursions caused massive repeated mass migrations back into to the South.
– Semaphore♦
1 hour ago
@Semaphore: Thanks. I'm pretty "blind" as far as ancient Asian history is concerned. I found an example for a back-migration from the Americas, so that's settled anyway. ;-) But a good question!
– DevSolar
1 hour ago
@DevSolar Well, people tend to move from bad or crowded places to good and empty places. There are definitely smaller-scale cases where e.g. shifts in climate, resource depletion or hostile neighbors made some place hard to live in (and people migrated out) and when the area became hospitable again, they returned. The collapse of the bronze age civilizations might be one rather large example. People returned when conditions (and technology) improved.
– Luaan
32 mins ago
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Hm... interesting. Has there ever, even, been a major "backwards" migration, period? I mean, have people migrated back from Europe to the Middle East? From the Middle East back to Africa? (Depends a bit on how you define "major", but yes... curious.)
– DevSolar
1 hour ago
Hm... interesting. Has there ever, even, been a major "backwards" migration, period? I mean, have people migrated back from Europe to the Middle East? From the Middle East back to Africa? (Depends a bit on how you define "major", but yes... curious.)
– DevSolar
1 hour ago
@DevSolar Sure, f.e. the Chinese Central Plains were originally colonised from South China; later nomadic incursions caused massive repeated mass migrations back into to the South.
– Semaphore♦
1 hour ago
@DevSolar Sure, f.e. the Chinese Central Plains were originally colonised from South China; later nomadic incursions caused massive repeated mass migrations back into to the South.
– Semaphore♦
1 hour ago
@Semaphore: Thanks. I'm pretty "blind" as far as ancient Asian history is concerned. I found an example for a back-migration from the Americas, so that's settled anyway. ;-) But a good question!
– DevSolar
1 hour ago
@Semaphore: Thanks. I'm pretty "blind" as far as ancient Asian history is concerned. I found an example for a back-migration from the Americas, so that's settled anyway. ;-) But a good question!
– DevSolar
1 hour ago
@DevSolar Well, people tend to move from bad or crowded places to good and empty places. There are definitely smaller-scale cases where e.g. shifts in climate, resource depletion or hostile neighbors made some place hard to live in (and people migrated out) and when the area became hospitable again, they returned. The collapse of the bronze age civilizations might be one rather large example. People returned when conditions (and technology) improved.
– Luaan
32 mins ago
@DevSolar Well, people tend to move from bad or crowded places to good and empty places. There are definitely smaller-scale cases where e.g. shifts in climate, resource depletion or hostile neighbors made some place hard to live in (and people migrated out) and when the area became hospitable again, they returned. The collapse of the bronze age civilizations might be one rather large example. People returned when conditions (and technology) improved.
– Luaan
32 mins ago
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Yes, there has been.
As this infographic shows, there has been a back-migration of the DNA haplogroups C1a and A2a from North America (well, Beringia...) back into Asia.
The infographic is sourced as Tamm E, Kivisild T, Reidla M, Metspalu M, Smith DG, et al. (2007) Beringian Standstill and Spread of Native American Founders. PLoS ONE 2(9): e829. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0000829.
Other (later) back-migrations might exist; I understood that your question would be answered with one "yes" already and stopped searching at this point.
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Well, this depends on whether you classify Beringia as part of the New World - it's kind of in between, in more sense than one. +1 nevertheless.
– Semaphore♦
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As DevSolar mentioned in his comment, this really depends on how you define 'major', but here are several case of migrants moving from the New to the Old World.
From the Caribbean to Europe
According the (British) National Archives, between 1948 and 1970,
nearly half a million people left their homes in the West Indies to
live in Britain
There were also significant migrations to France and the Netherlands. According to Migration from the Colonies to Western Europe since 1800
In 1975, more than 100,000 migrants from the Caribbean were living in
metropolitan France.
Also, around 180,000 Surinamese immigrants arrived in the Netherlands, mostly between 1975 and 1980.
From North America to West Africa
Another, much smaller but nonetheless historically significant migration from New to Old led to the founding of Liberia. This involved the migration of around 13,000 African Americans during the nineteenth century.
answered 1 hour ago
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Yes, there has been.
As this infographic shows, there has been a back-migration of the DNA haplogroups C1a and A2a from North America (well, Beringia...) back into Asia.
The infographic is sourced as Tamm E, Kivisild T, Reidla M, Metspalu M, Smith DG, et al. (2007) Beringian Standstill and Spread of Native American Founders. PLoS ONE 2(9): e829. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0000829.
Other (later) back-migrations might exist; I understood that your question would be answered with one "yes" already and stopped searching at this point.
answered 1 hour ago
DevSolar
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Well, this depends on whether you classify Beringia as part of the New World - it's kind of in between, in more sense than one. +1 nevertheless.
– Semaphore♦
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Yes, there has been.
As this infographic shows, there has been a back-migration of the DNA haplogroups C1a and A2a from North America (well, Beringia...) back into Asia.
The infographic is sourced as Tamm E, Kivisild T, Reidla M, Metspalu M, Smith DG, et al. (2007) Beringian Standstill and Spread of Native American Founders. PLoS ONE 2(9): e829. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0000829.
Other (later) back-migrations might exist; I understood that your question would be answered with one "yes" already and stopped searching at this point.
answered 1 hour ago
DevSolar
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Well, this depends on whether you classify Beringia as part of the New World - it's kind of in between, in more sense than one. +1 nevertheless.
– Semaphore♦
1 hour ago
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Yes, there has been.
As this infographic shows, there has been a back-migration of the DNA haplogroups C1a and A2a from North America (well, Beringia...) back into Asia.
The infographic is sourced as Tamm E, Kivisild T, Reidla M, Metspalu M, Smith DG, et al. (2007) Beringian Standstill and Spread of Native American Founders. PLoS ONE 2(9): e829. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0000829.
Other (later) back-migrations might exist; I understood that your question would be answered with one "yes" already and stopped searching at this point.
answered 1 hour ago
DevSolar
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Yes, there has been.
As this infographic shows, there has been a back-migration of the DNA haplogroups C1a and A2a from North America (well, Beringia...) back into Asia.
The infographic is sourced as Tamm E, Kivisild T, Reidla M, Metspalu M, Smith DG, et al. (2007) Beringian Standstill and Spread of Native American Founders. PLoS ONE 2(9): e829. doi:10.1371/journal.pone.0000829.
Other (later) back-migrations might exist; I understood that your question would be answered with one "yes" already and stopped searching at this point.
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DevSolar
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Well, this depends on whether you classify Beringia as part of the New World - it's kind of in between, in more sense than one. +1 nevertheless.
– Semaphore♦
1 hour ago
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Well, this depends on whether you classify Beringia as part of the New World - it's kind of in between, in more sense than one. +1 nevertheless.
– Semaphore♦
1 hour ago
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Well, this depends on whether you classify Beringia as part of the New World - it's kind of in between, in more sense than one. +1 nevertheless.
– Semaphore♦
1 hour ago
Well, this depends on whether you classify Beringia as part of the New World - it's kind of in between, in more sense than one. +1 nevertheless.
– Semaphore♦
1 hour ago
add a comment |
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3
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As DevSolar mentioned in his comment, this really depends on how you define 'major', but here are several case of migrants moving from the New to the Old World.
From the Caribbean to Europe
According the (British) National Archives, between 1948 and 1970,
nearly half a million people left their homes in the West Indies to
live in Britain
There were also significant migrations to France and the Netherlands. According to Migration from the Colonies to Western Europe since 1800
In 1975, more than 100,000 migrants from the Caribbean were living in
metropolitan France.
Also, around 180,000 Surinamese immigrants arrived in the Netherlands, mostly between 1975 and 1980.
From North America to West Africa
Another, much smaller but nonetheless historically significant migration from New to Old led to the founding of Liberia. This involved the migration of around 13,000 African Americans during the nineteenth century.
answered 1 hour ago
Lars Bosteen
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As DevSolar mentioned in his comment, this really depends on how you define 'major', but here are several case of migrants moving from the New to the Old World.
From the Caribbean to Europe
According the (British) National Archives, between 1948 and 1970,
nearly half a million people left their homes in the West Indies to
live in Britain
There were also significant migrations to France and the Netherlands. According to Migration from the Colonies to Western Europe since 1800
In 1975, more than 100,000 migrants from the Caribbean were living in
metropolitan France.
Also, around 180,000 Surinamese immigrants arrived in the Netherlands, mostly between 1975 and 1980.
From North America to West Africa
Another, much smaller but nonetheless historically significant migration from New to Old led to the founding of Liberia. This involved the migration of around 13,000 African Americans during the nineteenth century.
answered 1 hour ago
Lars Bosteen
36.2k8174238
add a comment |
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3
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up vote
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As DevSolar mentioned in his comment, this really depends on how you define 'major', but here are several case of migrants moving from the New to the Old World.
From the Caribbean to Europe
According the (British) National Archives, between 1948 and 1970,
nearly half a million people left their homes in the West Indies to
live in Britain
There were also significant migrations to France and the Netherlands. According to Migration from the Colonies to Western Europe since 1800
In 1975, more than 100,000 migrants from the Caribbean were living in
metropolitan France.
Also, around 180,000 Surinamese immigrants arrived in the Netherlands, mostly between 1975 and 1980.
From North America to West Africa
Another, much smaller but nonetheless historically significant migration from New to Old led to the founding of Liberia. This involved the migration of around 13,000 African Americans during the nineteenth century.
answered 1 hour ago
Lars Bosteen
36.2k8174238
As DevSolar mentioned in his comment, this really depends on how you define 'major', but here are several case of migrants moving from the New to the Old World.
From the Caribbean to Europe
According the (British) National Archives, between 1948 and 1970,
nearly half a million people left their homes in the West Indies to
live in Britain
There were also significant migrations to France and the Netherlands. According to Migration from the Colonies to Western Europe since 1800
In 1975, more than 100,000 migrants from the Caribbean were living in
metropolitan France.
Also, around 180,000 Surinamese immigrants arrived in the Netherlands, mostly between 1975 and 1980.
From North America to West Africa
Another, much smaller but nonetheless historically significant migration from New to Old led to the founding of Liberia. This involved the migration of around 13,000 African Americans during the nineteenth century.
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Hm... interesting. Has there ever, even, been a major "backwards" migration, period? I mean, have people migrated back from Europe to the Middle East? From the Middle East back to Africa? (Depends a bit on how you define "major", but yes... curious.)
– DevSolar
1 hour ago
@DevSolar Sure, f.e. the Chinese Central Plains were originally colonised from South China; later nomadic incursions caused massive repeated mass migrations back into to the South.
– Semaphore♦
1 hour ago
@Semaphore: Thanks. I'm pretty "blind" as far as ancient Asian history is concerned. I found an example for a back-migration from the Americas, so that's settled anyway. ;-) But a good question!
– DevSolar
1 hour ago
@DevSolar Well, people tend to move from bad or crowded places to good and empty places. There are definitely smaller-scale cases where e.g. shifts in climate, resource depletion or hostile neighbors made some place hard to live in (and people migrated out) and when the area became hospitable again, they returned. The collapse of the bronze age civilizations might be one rather large example. People returned when conditions (and technology) improved.
– Luaan
32 mins ago