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Atmospheric pressure increases the deeper you go & the highest growing plants on earth have been found at a height of 6 km so how deep a trench would we need on Mars to provide similar air pressure?
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  • There's basically no O2 in the Martian atmosphere so no matter how deep you dig your trench, you still won't get an Earthlike atmosphere.
    – Organic Marble
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  • That would be a different question, I'm only asking about air pressure in this instance.
    – Pelinore
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  • Then you need to edit your question and make that clear. You just say "conditions".
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  • No I don't, the question is very clear, it asks for the depth needed to give the air density, the comments you've misinterpreted as the question are there to give context to the question (what prompted me to ask).
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Atmospheric pressure increases the deeper you go & the highest growing plants on earth have been found at a height of 6 km so how deep a trench would we need on Mars to provide similar air pressure?
World’s highest plants discovered growing 6km above sea level






mars colonization atmosphere terraforming plants







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  • There's basically no O2 in the Martian atmosphere so no matter how deep you dig your trench, you still won't get an Earthlike atmosphere.
    – Organic Marble
    4 hours ago










  • That would be a different question, I'm only asking about air pressure in this instance.
    – Pelinore
    4 hours ago












  • Then you need to edit your question and make that clear. You just say "conditions".
    – Organic Marble
    4 hours ago










  • No I don't, the question is very clear, it asks for the depth needed to give the air density, the comments you've misinterpreted as the question are there to give context to the question (what prompted me to ask).
    – Pelinore
    4 hours ago








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    Edited to clarify. Both of you play nice.
    – Russell Borogove
    4 hours ago















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Atmospheric pressure increases the deeper you go & the highest growing plants on earth have been found at a height of 6 km so how deep a trench would we need on Mars to provide similar air pressure?
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Atmospheric pressure increases the deeper you go & the highest growing plants on earth have been found at a height of 6 km so how deep a trench would we need on Mars to provide similar air pressure?
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  • There's basically no O2 in the Martian atmosphere so no matter how deep you dig your trench, you still won't get an Earthlike atmosphere.
    – Organic Marble
    4 hours ago










  • That would be a different question, I'm only asking about air pressure in this instance.
    – Pelinore
    4 hours ago












  • Then you need to edit your question and make that clear. You just say "conditions".
    – Organic Marble
    4 hours ago










  • No I don't, the question is very clear, it asks for the depth needed to give the air density, the comments you've misinterpreted as the question are there to give context to the question (what prompted me to ask).
    – Pelinore
    4 hours ago








  • 1




    Edited to clarify. Both of you play nice.
    – Russell Borogove
    4 hours ago




















  • There's basically no O2 in the Martian atmosphere so no matter how deep you dig your trench, you still won't get an Earthlike atmosphere.
    – Organic Marble
    4 hours ago










  • That would be a different question, I'm only asking about air pressure in this instance.
    – Pelinore
    4 hours ago












  • Then you need to edit your question and make that clear. You just say "conditions".
    – Organic Marble
    4 hours ago










  • No I don't, the question is very clear, it asks for the depth needed to give the air density, the comments you've misinterpreted as the question are there to give context to the question (what prompted me to ask).
    – Pelinore
    4 hours ago








  • 1




    Edited to clarify. Both of you play nice.
    – Russell Borogove
    4 hours ago


















There's basically no O2 in the Martian atmosphere so no matter how deep you dig your trench, you still won't get an Earthlike atmosphere.
– Organic Marble
4 hours ago




There's basically no O2 in the Martian atmosphere so no matter how deep you dig your trench, you still won't get an Earthlike atmosphere.
– Organic Marble
4 hours ago












That would be a different question, I'm only asking about air pressure in this instance.
– Pelinore
4 hours ago






That would be a different question, I'm only asking about air pressure in this instance.
– Pelinore
4 hours ago














Then you need to edit your question and make that clear. You just say "conditions".
– Organic Marble
4 hours ago




Then you need to edit your question and make that clear. You just say "conditions".
– Organic Marble
4 hours ago












No I don't, the question is very clear, it asks for the depth needed to give the air density, the comments you've misinterpreted as the question are there to give context to the question (what prompted me to ask).
– Pelinore
4 hours ago






No I don't, the question is very clear, it asks for the depth needed to give the air density, the comments you've misinterpreted as the question are there to give context to the question (what prompted me to ask).
– Pelinore
4 hours ago






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Edited to clarify. Both of you play nice.
– Russell Borogove
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Edited to clarify. Both of you play nice.
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Mars' atmosphere scale height is, depending on who you ask, 10.8 to 11.1 km.




  • Pressure at the bottom of Hellas Planitia: 1.16 kPa

  • Earth sea level: 101.3 kPa

  • Earth 6km altitude: ~50 kPa.


So we need air pressure to increase by a factor of about 43; ln 43 = 3.76 scale heights -- so we need a trench about 41km deep. Start digging!



This gets equivalent air pressure, but there's almost no oxygen. Partial pressure of CO2 on the other hand is about 2400 times higher -- Mars's surface level atmosphere offers more CO2 than Earth as it is.






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  • "Start digging!" got my shovel, just waiting on my ticket from SpaceX :)
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  • And note that at this depth your trench almost certainly collapses in on itself, the rock can't take the load.
    – Loren Pechtel
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Mars' atmosphere scale height is, depending on who you ask, 10.8 to 11.1 km.




  • Pressure at the bottom of Hellas Planitia: 1.16 kPa

  • Earth sea level: 101.3 kPa

  • Earth 6km altitude: ~50 kPa.


So we need air pressure to increase by a factor of about 43; ln 43 = 3.76 scale heights -- so we need a trench about 41km deep. Start digging!



This gets equivalent air pressure, but there's almost no oxygen. Partial pressure of CO2 on the other hand is about 2400 times higher -- Mars's surface level atmosphere offers more CO2 than Earth as it is.






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  • "Start digging!" got my shovel, just waiting on my ticket from SpaceX :)
    – Pelinore
    4 hours ago










  • And note that at this depth your trench almost certainly collapses in on itself, the rock can't take the load.
    – Loren Pechtel
    3 hours ago















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Mars' atmosphere scale height is, depending on who you ask, 10.8 to 11.1 km.




  • Pressure at the bottom of Hellas Planitia: 1.16 kPa

  • Earth sea level: 101.3 kPa

  • Earth 6km altitude: ~50 kPa.


So we need air pressure to increase by a factor of about 43; ln 43 = 3.76 scale heights -- so we need a trench about 41km deep. Start digging!



This gets equivalent air pressure, but there's almost no oxygen. Partial pressure of CO2 on the other hand is about 2400 times higher -- Mars's surface level atmosphere offers more CO2 than Earth as it is.






share|improve this answer





















  • "Start digging!" got my shovel, just waiting on my ticket from SpaceX :)
    – Pelinore
    4 hours ago










  • And note that at this depth your trench almost certainly collapses in on itself, the rock can't take the load.
    – Loren Pechtel
    3 hours ago













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Mars' atmosphere scale height is, depending on who you ask, 10.8 to 11.1 km.




  • Pressure at the bottom of Hellas Planitia: 1.16 kPa

  • Earth sea level: 101.3 kPa

  • Earth 6km altitude: ~50 kPa.


So we need air pressure to increase by a factor of about 43; ln 43 = 3.76 scale heights -- so we need a trench about 41km deep. Start digging!



This gets equivalent air pressure, but there's almost no oxygen. Partial pressure of CO2 on the other hand is about 2400 times higher -- Mars's surface level atmosphere offers more CO2 than Earth as it is.






share|improve this answer












Mars' atmosphere scale height is, depending on who you ask, 10.8 to 11.1 km.




  • Pressure at the bottom of Hellas Planitia: 1.16 kPa

  • Earth sea level: 101.3 kPa

  • Earth 6km altitude: ~50 kPa.


So we need air pressure to increase by a factor of about 43; ln 43 = 3.76 scale heights -- so we need a trench about 41km deep. Start digging!



This gets equivalent air pressure, but there's almost no oxygen. Partial pressure of CO2 on the other hand is about 2400 times higher -- Mars's surface level atmosphere offers more CO2 than Earth as it is.







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  • "Start digging!" got my shovel, just waiting on my ticket from SpaceX :)
    – Pelinore
    4 hours ago










  • And note that at this depth your trench almost certainly collapses in on itself, the rock can't take the load.
    – Loren Pechtel
    3 hours ago


















  • "Start digging!" got my shovel, just waiting on my ticket from SpaceX :)
    – Pelinore
    4 hours ago










  • And note that at this depth your trench almost certainly collapses in on itself, the rock can't take the load.
    – Loren Pechtel
    3 hours ago
















"Start digging!" got my shovel, just waiting on my ticket from SpaceX :)
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4 hours ago




"Start digging!" got my shovel, just waiting on my ticket from SpaceX :)
– Pelinore
4 hours ago












And note that at this depth your trench almost certainly collapses in on itself, the rock can't take the load.
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And note that at this depth your trench almost certainly collapses in on itself, the rock can't take the load.
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