Why does this series have such a poor radius of convergence?
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I am confused as to why $$sum_{ngeq0}(1-x)^n=frac1x$$
only works for $xin (0,2)$. I get that it has a singularity at $x=0$, so that can't work, but there are no singularities for the rest of the positive real line. Why isn't there a power series representation of $frac1x$ which works for the whole positive real line? Are there any series representations of $1/x$ which work for $xin (0,infty)$? I can't find any. Thanks.
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I am confused as to why $$sum_{ngeq0}(1-x)^n=frac1x$$
only works for $xin (0,2)$. I get that it has a singularity at $x=0$, so that can't work, but there are no singularities for the rest of the positive real line. Why isn't there a power series representation of $frac1x$ which works for the whole positive real line? Are there any series representations of $1/x$ which work for $xin (0,infty)$? I can't find any. Thanks.
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The domain of convergence of a real power series is always either a finitely long interval or the whole real line.
– Andreas Blass
4 hours ago
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$sum r^n$ converges iff $-1<r<1$. If $r=1-x$ that's the same as $0<x<2$.
– Lord Shark the Unknown
4 hours ago
$1/x$ has a pole at $x=0$.
– Lord Shark the Unknown
4 hours ago
1
More specifically: their intervals of convergence are symmetric around the point of evaluation, which is $1$ here, so the Taylor series does not converge beyond $x = 2$ (and you can check that it doesn't converge at $x = 2$ either).
– user3482749
4 hours ago
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I am confused as to why $$sum_{ngeq0}(1-x)^n=frac1x$$
only works for $xin (0,2)$. I get that it has a singularity at $x=0$, so that can't work, but there are no singularities for the rest of the positive real line. Why isn't there a power series representation of $frac1x$ which works for the whole positive real line? Are there any series representations of $1/x$ which work for $xin (0,infty)$? I can't find any. Thanks.
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I am confused as to why $$sum_{ngeq0}(1-x)^n=frac1x$$
only works for $xin (0,2)$. I get that it has a singularity at $x=0$, so that can't work, but there are no singularities for the rest of the positive real line. Why isn't there a power series representation of $frac1x$ which works for the whole positive real line? Are there any series representations of $1/x$ which work for $xin (0,infty)$? I can't find any. Thanks.
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The domain of convergence of a real power series is always either a finitely long interval or the whole real line.
– Andreas Blass
4 hours ago
1
$sum r^n$ converges iff $-1<r<1$. If $r=1-x$ that's the same as $0<x<2$.
– Lord Shark the Unknown
4 hours ago
$1/x$ has a pole at $x=0$.
– Lord Shark the Unknown
4 hours ago
1
More specifically: their intervals of convergence are symmetric around the point of evaluation, which is $1$ here, so the Taylor series does not converge beyond $x = 2$ (and you can check that it doesn't converge at $x = 2$ either).
– user3482749
4 hours ago
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The domain of convergence of a real power series is always either a finitely long interval or the whole real line.
– Andreas Blass
4 hours ago
1
$sum r^n$ converges iff $-1<r<1$. If $r=1-x$ that's the same as $0<x<2$.
– Lord Shark the Unknown
4 hours ago
$1/x$ has a pole at $x=0$.
– Lord Shark the Unknown
4 hours ago
1
More specifically: their intervals of convergence are symmetric around the point of evaluation, which is $1$ here, so the Taylor series does not converge beyond $x = 2$ (and you can check that it doesn't converge at $x = 2$ either).
– user3482749
4 hours ago
The domain of convergence of a real power series is always either a finitely long interval or the whole real line.
– Andreas Blass
4 hours ago
The domain of convergence of a real power series is always either a finitely long interval or the whole real line.
– Andreas Blass
4 hours ago
1
1
$sum r^n$ converges iff $-1<r<1$. If $r=1-x$ that's the same as $0<x<2$.
– Lord Shark the Unknown
4 hours ago
$sum r^n$ converges iff $-1<r<1$. If $r=1-x$ that's the same as $0<x<2$.
– Lord Shark the Unknown
4 hours ago
$1/x$ has a pole at $x=0$.
– Lord Shark the Unknown
4 hours ago
$1/x$ has a pole at $x=0$.
– Lord Shark the Unknown
4 hours ago
1
1
More specifically: their intervals of convergence are symmetric around the point of evaluation, which is $1$ here, so the Taylor series does not converge beyond $x = 2$ (and you can check that it doesn't converge at $x = 2$ either).
– user3482749
4 hours ago
More specifically: their intervals of convergence are symmetric around the point of evaluation, which is $1$ here, so the Taylor series does not converge beyond $x = 2$ (and you can check that it doesn't converge at $x = 2$ either).
– user3482749
4 hours ago
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The radius of convergence of a power series in $z-a$ is the largest $r$ such that the sum of the series is analytic in the disk ${z: |z-a| < r}$ in the complex plane. Thus a singularity at some point stops the series from converging
at all points farther away from the centre than that point, even though the function may be analytic at those other points.
On the other hand, you could take the series
$$ frac{1}{x} = -1 + sum_{n=1}^infty left(frac{1+x}{1+2x}right)^n$$
which converges for all $x > 0$ (in fact, everywhere outside a circle of radius $1/3$ centred at $-1/3$ in the complex plane).
Of course, this is not a power series in the usual sense.
What type of series is $$-1+sum_{ngeq0}bigg(frac{1+x}{1+2x}bigg)^n$$ and how do you find it? Is this type of series generally better at approximating rational functions?
– clathratus
1 hour ago
@clathratus It's just a geometric series where $y=frac{1+x}{1+2x}$. It is a special case for $a=2$ of: $$frac{1}{x}+a = frac{1+ax}{x}\ = frac{1+ax}{1+ax - (1+ax-x)}\ = frac{1}{1 - frac{1+(a-1)x}{1+ax}}\ =sum_{n=0}^infty left(frac{1+(a-1)x}{1+ax}right)^n $$ Note that the series given in the posted answer does not include the term $n=0$ as you wrote in your comment.
– adfriedman
11 mins ago
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A function $ f(z)$ , which is analytic in a domain of the complex plane,
can be developed in power series around a point in that domain, and the radius
of convergence of the series will be equal to the distance of that point from the nearest
singularity, of course excluded.
Thus, for $1/z$ :
- when developed at $z=1$ will have a convergence radius of $
1$;
- to get a larger radius( $R$), you shall develop it around $z_0=R$;
- there is no possibility to develop it so as to encompass positive and negative real values of it.
The Laurent series for $1/z$ at $z_0=0$ is infact $1/z$, i.e. the function itself.
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The set of those real numbers at which a power series $displaystylesum_{n=0}^infty a_n(x-a)^n$ belongs to one of these types:
${a}$;
$(a-r,a+r)$, for some $rin(0,+infty)$;
$(a-r,a+r]$, for some $rin(0,+infty)$;
$[a-r,a+r)$, for some $rin(0,+infty)$;
$[a-r,a+r]$, for some $rin(0,+infty)$;
$mathbb R$.
Since, $(0,+infty)$ doesn't appear here, no power series exists whose sum is $frac1x$ in $(0,+infty)$ and which diverges otherwise.
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The geometric series $sum_{ngeq0}(1-x)^n$ converges for
$$|1-x|<1 iff -1<1-x<1 iff 0<x<2$$
and we have
$$sum_{ngeq0}(1-x)^n=frac{1}{1-(1-x)}=frac1x$$
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4 Answers
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The radius of convergence of a power series in $z-a$ is the largest $r$ such that the sum of the series is analytic in the disk ${z: |z-a| < r}$ in the complex plane. Thus a singularity at some point stops the series from converging
at all points farther away from the centre than that point, even though the function may be analytic at those other points.
On the other hand, you could take the series
$$ frac{1}{x} = -1 + sum_{n=1}^infty left(frac{1+x}{1+2x}right)^n$$
which converges for all $x > 0$ (in fact, everywhere outside a circle of radius $1/3$ centred at $-1/3$ in the complex plane).
Of course, this is not a power series in the usual sense.
What type of series is $$-1+sum_{ngeq0}bigg(frac{1+x}{1+2x}bigg)^n$$ and how do you find it? Is this type of series generally better at approximating rational functions?
– clathratus
1 hour ago
@clathratus It's just a geometric series where $y=frac{1+x}{1+2x}$. It is a special case for $a=2$ of: $$frac{1}{x}+a = frac{1+ax}{x}\ = frac{1+ax}{1+ax - (1+ax-x)}\ = frac{1}{1 - frac{1+(a-1)x}{1+ax}}\ =sum_{n=0}^infty left(frac{1+(a-1)x}{1+ax}right)^n $$ Note that the series given in the posted answer does not include the term $n=0$ as you wrote in your comment.
– adfriedman
11 mins ago
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The radius of convergence of a power series in $z-a$ is the largest $r$ such that the sum of the series is analytic in the disk ${z: |z-a| < r}$ in the complex plane. Thus a singularity at some point stops the series from converging
at all points farther away from the centre than that point, even though the function may be analytic at those other points.
On the other hand, you could take the series
$$ frac{1}{x} = -1 + sum_{n=1}^infty left(frac{1+x}{1+2x}right)^n$$
which converges for all $x > 0$ (in fact, everywhere outside a circle of radius $1/3$ centred at $-1/3$ in the complex plane).
Of course, this is not a power series in the usual sense.
What type of series is $$-1+sum_{ngeq0}bigg(frac{1+x}{1+2x}bigg)^n$$ and how do you find it? Is this type of series generally better at approximating rational functions?
– clathratus
1 hour ago
@clathratus It's just a geometric series where $y=frac{1+x}{1+2x}$. It is a special case for $a=2$ of: $$frac{1}{x}+a = frac{1+ax}{x}\ = frac{1+ax}{1+ax - (1+ax-x)}\ = frac{1}{1 - frac{1+(a-1)x}{1+ax}}\ =sum_{n=0}^infty left(frac{1+(a-1)x}{1+ax}right)^n $$ Note that the series given in the posted answer does not include the term $n=0$ as you wrote in your comment.
– adfriedman
11 mins ago
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up vote
5
down vote
accepted
The radius of convergence of a power series in $z-a$ is the largest $r$ such that the sum of the series is analytic in the disk ${z: |z-a| < r}$ in the complex plane. Thus a singularity at some point stops the series from converging
at all points farther away from the centre than that point, even though the function may be analytic at those other points.
On the other hand, you could take the series
$$ frac{1}{x} = -1 + sum_{n=1}^infty left(frac{1+x}{1+2x}right)^n$$
which converges for all $x > 0$ (in fact, everywhere outside a circle of radius $1/3$ centred at $-1/3$ in the complex plane).
Of course, this is not a power series in the usual sense.
The radius of convergence of a power series in $z-a$ is the largest $r$ such that the sum of the series is analytic in the disk ${z: |z-a| < r}$ in the complex plane. Thus a singularity at some point stops the series from converging
at all points farther away from the centre than that point, even though the function may be analytic at those other points.
On the other hand, you could take the series
$$ frac{1}{x} = -1 + sum_{n=1}^infty left(frac{1+x}{1+2x}right)^n$$
which converges for all $x > 0$ (in fact, everywhere outside a circle of radius $1/3$ centred at $-1/3$ in the complex plane).
Of course, this is not a power series in the usual sense.
edited 4 hours ago
answered 4 hours ago
Robert Israel
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What type of series is $$-1+sum_{ngeq0}bigg(frac{1+x}{1+2x}bigg)^n$$ and how do you find it? Is this type of series generally better at approximating rational functions?
– clathratus
1 hour ago
@clathratus It's just a geometric series where $y=frac{1+x}{1+2x}$. It is a special case for $a=2$ of: $$frac{1}{x}+a = frac{1+ax}{x}\ = frac{1+ax}{1+ax - (1+ax-x)}\ = frac{1}{1 - frac{1+(a-1)x}{1+ax}}\ =sum_{n=0}^infty left(frac{1+(a-1)x}{1+ax}right)^n $$ Note that the series given in the posted answer does not include the term $n=0$ as you wrote in your comment.
– adfriedman
11 mins ago
add a comment |
What type of series is $$-1+sum_{ngeq0}bigg(frac{1+x}{1+2x}bigg)^n$$ and how do you find it? Is this type of series generally better at approximating rational functions?
– clathratus
1 hour ago
@clathratus It's just a geometric series where $y=frac{1+x}{1+2x}$. It is a special case for $a=2$ of: $$frac{1}{x}+a = frac{1+ax}{x}\ = frac{1+ax}{1+ax - (1+ax-x)}\ = frac{1}{1 - frac{1+(a-1)x}{1+ax}}\ =sum_{n=0}^infty left(frac{1+(a-1)x}{1+ax}right)^n $$ Note that the series given in the posted answer does not include the term $n=0$ as you wrote in your comment.
– adfriedman
11 mins ago
What type of series is $$-1+sum_{ngeq0}bigg(frac{1+x}{1+2x}bigg)^n$$ and how do you find it? Is this type of series generally better at approximating rational functions?
– clathratus
1 hour ago
What type of series is $$-1+sum_{ngeq0}bigg(frac{1+x}{1+2x}bigg)^n$$ and how do you find it? Is this type of series generally better at approximating rational functions?
– clathratus
1 hour ago
@clathratus It's just a geometric series where $y=frac{1+x}{1+2x}$. It is a special case for $a=2$ of: $$frac{1}{x}+a = frac{1+ax}{x}\ = frac{1+ax}{1+ax - (1+ax-x)}\ = frac{1}{1 - frac{1+(a-1)x}{1+ax}}\ =sum_{n=0}^infty left(frac{1+(a-1)x}{1+ax}right)^n $$ Note that the series given in the posted answer does not include the term $n=0$ as you wrote in your comment.
– adfriedman
11 mins ago
@clathratus It's just a geometric series where $y=frac{1+x}{1+2x}$. It is a special case for $a=2$ of: $$frac{1}{x}+a = frac{1+ax}{x}\ = frac{1+ax}{1+ax - (1+ax-x)}\ = frac{1}{1 - frac{1+(a-1)x}{1+ax}}\ =sum_{n=0}^infty left(frac{1+(a-1)x}{1+ax}right)^n $$ Note that the series given in the posted answer does not include the term $n=0$ as you wrote in your comment.
– adfriedman
11 mins ago
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A function $ f(z)$ , which is analytic in a domain of the complex plane,
can be developed in power series around a point in that domain, and the radius
of convergence of the series will be equal to the distance of that point from the nearest
singularity, of course excluded.
Thus, for $1/z$ :
- when developed at $z=1$ will have a convergence radius of $
1$;
- to get a larger radius( $R$), you shall develop it around $z_0=R$;
- there is no possibility to develop it so as to encompass positive and negative real values of it.
The Laurent series for $1/z$ at $z_0=0$ is infact $1/z$, i.e. the function itself.
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
A function $ f(z)$ , which is analytic in a domain of the complex plane,
can be developed in power series around a point in that domain, and the radius
of convergence of the series will be equal to the distance of that point from the nearest
singularity, of course excluded.
Thus, for $1/z$ :
- when developed at $z=1$ will have a convergence radius of $
1$;
- to get a larger radius( $R$), you shall develop it around $z_0=R$;
- there is no possibility to develop it so as to encompass positive and negative real values of it.
The Laurent series for $1/z$ at $z_0=0$ is infact $1/z$, i.e. the function itself.
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
A function $ f(z)$ , which is analytic in a domain of the complex plane,
can be developed in power series around a point in that domain, and the radius
of convergence of the series will be equal to the distance of that point from the nearest
singularity, of course excluded.
Thus, for $1/z$ :
- when developed at $z=1$ will have a convergence radius of $
1$;
- to get a larger radius( $R$), you shall develop it around $z_0=R$;
- there is no possibility to develop it so as to encompass positive and negative real values of it.
The Laurent series for $1/z$ at $z_0=0$ is infact $1/z$, i.e. the function itself.
A function $ f(z)$ , which is analytic in a domain of the complex plane,
can be developed in power series around a point in that domain, and the radius
of convergence of the series will be equal to the distance of that point from the nearest
singularity, of course excluded.
Thus, for $1/z$ :
- when developed at $z=1$ will have a convergence radius of $
1$;
- to get a larger radius( $R$), you shall develop it around $z_0=R$;
- there is no possibility to develop it so as to encompass positive and negative real values of it.
The Laurent series for $1/z$ at $z_0=0$ is infact $1/z$, i.e. the function itself.
answered 1 hour ago
G Cab
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The set of those real numbers at which a power series $displaystylesum_{n=0}^infty a_n(x-a)^n$ belongs to one of these types:
${a}$;
$(a-r,a+r)$, for some $rin(0,+infty)$;
$(a-r,a+r]$, for some $rin(0,+infty)$;
$[a-r,a+r)$, for some $rin(0,+infty)$;
$[a-r,a+r]$, for some $rin(0,+infty)$;
$mathbb R$.
Since, $(0,+infty)$ doesn't appear here, no power series exists whose sum is $frac1x$ in $(0,+infty)$ and which diverges otherwise.
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
The set of those real numbers at which a power series $displaystylesum_{n=0}^infty a_n(x-a)^n$ belongs to one of these types:
${a}$;
$(a-r,a+r)$, for some $rin(0,+infty)$;
$(a-r,a+r]$, for some $rin(0,+infty)$;
$[a-r,a+r)$, for some $rin(0,+infty)$;
$[a-r,a+r]$, for some $rin(0,+infty)$;
$mathbb R$.
Since, $(0,+infty)$ doesn't appear here, no power series exists whose sum is $frac1x$ in $(0,+infty)$ and which diverges otherwise.
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
The set of those real numbers at which a power series $displaystylesum_{n=0}^infty a_n(x-a)^n$ belongs to one of these types:
${a}$;
$(a-r,a+r)$, for some $rin(0,+infty)$;
$(a-r,a+r]$, for some $rin(0,+infty)$;
$[a-r,a+r)$, for some $rin(0,+infty)$;
$[a-r,a+r]$, for some $rin(0,+infty)$;
$mathbb R$.
Since, $(0,+infty)$ doesn't appear here, no power series exists whose sum is $frac1x$ in $(0,+infty)$ and which diverges otherwise.
The set of those real numbers at which a power series $displaystylesum_{n=0}^infty a_n(x-a)^n$ belongs to one of these types:
${a}$;
$(a-r,a+r)$, for some $rin(0,+infty)$;
$(a-r,a+r]$, for some $rin(0,+infty)$;
$[a-r,a+r)$, for some $rin(0,+infty)$;
$[a-r,a+r]$, for some $rin(0,+infty)$;
$mathbb R$.
Since, $(0,+infty)$ doesn't appear here, no power series exists whose sum is $frac1x$ in $(0,+infty)$ and which diverges otherwise.
answered 4 hours ago
José Carlos Santos
142k20112208
142k20112208
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0
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The geometric series $sum_{ngeq0}(1-x)^n$ converges for
$$|1-x|<1 iff -1<1-x<1 iff 0<x<2$$
and we have
$$sum_{ngeq0}(1-x)^n=frac{1}{1-(1-x)}=frac1x$$
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
The geometric series $sum_{ngeq0}(1-x)^n$ converges for
$$|1-x|<1 iff -1<1-x<1 iff 0<x<2$$
and we have
$$sum_{ngeq0}(1-x)^n=frac{1}{1-(1-x)}=frac1x$$
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
0
down vote
The geometric series $sum_{ngeq0}(1-x)^n$ converges for
$$|1-x|<1 iff -1<1-x<1 iff 0<x<2$$
and we have
$$sum_{ngeq0}(1-x)^n=frac{1}{1-(1-x)}=frac1x$$
The geometric series $sum_{ngeq0}(1-x)^n$ converges for
$$|1-x|<1 iff -1<1-x<1 iff 0<x<2$$
and we have
$$sum_{ngeq0}(1-x)^n=frac{1}{1-(1-x)}=frac1x$$
answered 4 hours ago
gimusi
88.4k74394
88.4k74394
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The domain of convergence of a real power series is always either a finitely long interval or the whole real line.
– Andreas Blass
4 hours ago
1
$sum r^n$ converges iff $-1<r<1$. If $r=1-x$ that's the same as $0<x<2$.
– Lord Shark the Unknown
4 hours ago
$1/x$ has a pole at $x=0$.
– Lord Shark the Unknown
4 hours ago
1
More specifically: their intervals of convergence are symmetric around the point of evaluation, which is $1$ here, so the Taylor series does not converge beyond $x = 2$ (and you can check that it doesn't converge at $x = 2$ either).
– user3482749
4 hours ago