How can a UDP Client and a packet sniffer run on the same machine?











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In my understanding, if you have a UDP socket client that is bound to a particular port, then a second UDP client on the same machine can't bind to the same port.



If this is the case, then how can a packet sniffing program like Wireshark run on the same machine you have a UDP client without issues?










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    In my understanding, if you have a UDP socket client that is bound to a particular port, then a second UDP client on the same machine can't bind to the same port.



    If this is the case, then how can a packet sniffing program like Wireshark run on the same machine you have a UDP client without issues?










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      In my understanding, if you have a UDP socket client that is bound to a particular port, then a second UDP client on the same machine can't bind to the same port.



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      In my understanding, if you have a UDP socket client that is bound to a particular port, then a second UDP client on the same machine can't bind to the same port.



      If this is the case, then how can a packet sniffing program like Wireshark run on the same machine you have a UDP client without issues?







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          Packet sniffing applications tap into the lower layers of the network stack, not at the top like your UDP using applications that connect to UDP at the top of the network stack.






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          • Are you saying that the packet sniffing applications work at the network/routing layer?
            – Fred
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          • Even lower than that. Most can capture the Data-Link frames.
            – Ron Maupin
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          • @Fred Usually the packet capturing happens right on top of the NIC, ie. between layer 2 and 3.
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          Packet sniffing applications tap into the lower layers of the network stack, not at the top like your UDP using applications that connect to UDP at the top of the network stack.






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          • Are you saying that the packet sniffing applications work at the network/routing layer?
            – Fred
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          • Even lower than that. Most can capture the Data-Link frames.
            – Ron Maupin
            4 hours ago










          • @Fred Usually the packet capturing happens right on top of the NIC, ie. between layer 2 and 3.
            – Zac67
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          Packet sniffing applications tap into the lower layers of the network stack, not at the top like your UDP using applications that connect to UDP at the top of the network stack.






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          • Are you saying that the packet sniffing applications work at the network/routing layer?
            – Fred
            4 hours ago










          • Even lower than that. Most can capture the Data-Link frames.
            – Ron Maupin
            4 hours ago










          • @Fred Usually the packet capturing happens right on top of the NIC, ie. between layer 2 and 3.
            – Zac67
            3 hours ago















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          Packet sniffing applications tap into the lower layers of the network stack, not at the top like your UDP using applications that connect to UDP at the top of the network stack.






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          Packet sniffing applications tap into the lower layers of the network stack, not at the top like your UDP using applications that connect to UDP at the top of the network stack.







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          • Are you saying that the packet sniffing applications work at the network/routing layer?
            – Fred
            4 hours ago










          • Even lower than that. Most can capture the Data-Link frames.
            – Ron Maupin
            4 hours ago










          • @Fred Usually the packet capturing happens right on top of the NIC, ie. between layer 2 and 3.
            – Zac67
            3 hours ago




















          • Are you saying that the packet sniffing applications work at the network/routing layer?
            – Fred
            4 hours ago










          • Even lower than that. Most can capture the Data-Link frames.
            – Ron Maupin
            4 hours ago










          • @Fred Usually the packet capturing happens right on top of the NIC, ie. between layer 2 and 3.
            – Zac67
            3 hours ago


















          Are you saying that the packet sniffing applications work at the network/routing layer?
          – Fred
          4 hours ago




          Are you saying that the packet sniffing applications work at the network/routing layer?
          – Fred
          4 hours ago












          Even lower than that. Most can capture the Data-Link frames.
          – Ron Maupin
          4 hours ago




          Even lower than that. Most can capture the Data-Link frames.
          – Ron Maupin
          4 hours ago












          @Fred Usually the packet capturing happens right on top of the NIC, ie. between layer 2 and 3.
          – Zac67
          3 hours ago






          @Fred Usually the packet capturing happens right on top of the NIC, ie. between layer 2 and 3.
          – Zac67
          3 hours ago












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