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I am in a situation where I need to harden a password hash, but not allowed to bring in any extra dependencies, so I am pretty much forced to do the one thing everyone seems to advise against - roll out my own implementation.

The SHA family, being considered fast hash, doesn't seem suitable for password hashing. And there is also the risk of loss of entropy from repeated hashing hashes.

The intent behind "slow hashing" seems to be increasing CPU time and memory requirements, so I conceived the following strategy.

• the password is hashed via SHA-3 512


• the hash value is fed to a mt19937 PRNG through a seed sequence


• a long random sequence is generated to be rehashed


• recurse the same for n number of times


• the final hash value is derived from hashing all sequences inside out

That seems to introduce a fair configurable extra amount of work and memory requirement.

So my question is whether this is a reasonable strategy, and if so, what sequence lengths and recursion depths should be enough.

There is one solution to this which does not require that you include other dependencies like Argon2. You can implement the algorithm used by OpenPGP, called String-to-Key, or S2K. This algorithm works by feeding the repeating password and salt to a hash function. The password and salt are repeated enough that it takes the hash function a non-negligible amount of time to process it. This is such a simple slow KDF that it can even be done using standard Linux utilities (in this example with SHA-256):

yes "$pass$salt" | head -c 50M | sha256sum

If you are ever able to bring in your own dependencies, I highly recommend listening to Future Security whose excellent answer lists superior alternatives to both S2K and your custom scheme.

It's worth it to add Argon2 as a dependency. Or bcrypt if you can't use optimized Argon2 and you manage to avoid all the ways bcrypt lets you shoot yourself in the foot. If you're left with no good option then give extra consideration to disallowing humans to choose their own passwords.

Losing entropy through repeated hashing isn't something you should be concerned with unless you truncate hash output between iterations or if you use a really bad hash function. It's not a problem for a secure function with large output. Only when two different passwords lead to chains of hashes merging will you lose anything. In other words, only when you have an accidental collision.

Using an RNG to generate new input is completely unnecessary. The output of cryptographic hashes is just as random whether you use random-looking or non-random-looking input. You might make things worse if someone could use a optimized hardware implementation while you had to use a slower software implementation. You are definitely making things worse if there is any flaw in the implementation or the seed is reduced to say, a 64-bit number.

Your specific method may permit a time-memory trade off. Some candidates in the password hashing competition, including Argon2, were designed to so that you can't halve the memory requirement if you're only willing to halve the speed. (Scrypt allows you to make such tradeoffs and that problem was one of the motivations to search for a better algorithm.) You might think doubling computation time isn't worth saving memory, but in the end you might end up with higher throughput, less power consumed, or less cost if you can buy cheaper or more efficient low-memory hardware and do more operations in parallel.

Whatever algorithm you could come up with probably would, at best, be competitive with PBKDF2. (PBKDF2 isn't great, but is simple enough to implement if you already have a hash function.)

If you use PBKDF2 or something like it you probably should not use SHA-3. SHA-3 hashes can be computed fairly efficiently but it's relatively slow on CPUs. That could advantage password crackers if they could use faster more efficient implementations. You would be better off using SHA-2-512, actually. Or Blake2.