During its final descent, how will the InSight lander know cardinal directions in order to land with proper...
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As explained in @karthikeyan's answer the InSight lander will rely upon its landing system to orient the lander properly, so that once on the ground instruments such as the RISE antennas will be pointing in the proper direction, in this case roughly East and West, more specifically, towards Earth when InSight is near the edge of the planet's disk as seen from Earth.
From this short conference paper:
For RISE, Doppler measurements will be made at times when the Earth is at low elevation, when the Doppler signature due to the rotation of Mars is largest. Two fixed medium-gain antennas, one pointed to the east and one pointed to the west, will be used to provide adequate gain for RISE.
While InSight is still moving horizontally with high velocity during its entry, it has its velocity vector (from whence it comes) as a reference with respect to the terrain. But very near the end of its seven minutes of terror, in the final hover and drop, what reference will it use for lateral orientation (rotation about the vertical)?
There's no useful planetary magnetic field for direction-finding. Is it known what cues the landing system will actually use to orient InSight correctly?
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As explained in @karthikeyan's answer the InSight lander will rely upon its landing system to orient the lander properly, so that once on the ground instruments such as the RISE antennas will be pointing in the proper direction, in this case roughly East and West, more specifically, towards Earth when InSight is near the edge of the planet's disk as seen from Earth.
From this short conference paper:
For RISE, Doppler measurements will be made at times when the Earth is at low elevation, when the Doppler signature due to the rotation of Mars is largest. Two fixed medium-gain antennas, one pointed to the east and one pointed to the west, will be used to provide adequate gain for RISE.
While InSight is still moving horizontally with high velocity during its entry, it has its velocity vector (from whence it comes) as a reference with respect to the terrain. But very near the end of its seven minutes of terror, in the final hover and drop, what reference will it use for lateral orientation (rotation about the vertical)?
There's no useful planetary magnetic field for direction-finding. Is it known what cues the landing system will actually use to orient InSight correctly?
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I am going to taste a guess before looking up for references. I feel that surface features might be compared with the database of images from MRO, which might help in identifying the cardinal direction. Usually, the remote landing employs a camera to look directly below the probe, right from a altitude of few kilometers
– karthikeyan
3 hours ago
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@karthikeyan I have a hunch that you have good taste in guesses ;-) I think there are some other answers here about terrain-based navigation on Mars in general, that may have helpful resources.
– uhoh
3 hours ago
haha! It was a typo. I meant "I am going to TAKE a guess..". Anyways, thanks for the suggestions to look into. I'll start my hunt
– karthikeyan
3 hours ago
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there seems to be a lack of attitude related information! And I consider my camera backed answer as the resolutions from MRO and lander might be different.
– karthikeyan
28 mins ago
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As explained in @karthikeyan's answer the InSight lander will rely upon its landing system to orient the lander properly, so that once on the ground instruments such as the RISE antennas will be pointing in the proper direction, in this case roughly East and West, more specifically, towards Earth when InSight is near the edge of the planet's disk as seen from Earth.
From this short conference paper:
For RISE, Doppler measurements will be made at times when the Earth is at low elevation, when the Doppler signature due to the rotation of Mars is largest. Two fixed medium-gain antennas, one pointed to the east and one pointed to the west, will be used to provide adequate gain for RISE.
While InSight is still moving horizontally with high velocity during its entry, it has its velocity vector (from whence it comes) as a reference with respect to the terrain. But very near the end of its seven minutes of terror, in the final hover and drop, what reference will it use for lateral orientation (rotation about the vertical)?
There's no useful planetary magnetic field for direction-finding. Is it known what cues the landing system will actually use to orient InSight correctly?
mars lander adcs insight
As explained in @karthikeyan's answer the InSight lander will rely upon its landing system to orient the lander properly, so that once on the ground instruments such as the RISE antennas will be pointing in the proper direction, in this case roughly East and West, more specifically, towards Earth when InSight is near the edge of the planet's disk as seen from Earth.
From this short conference paper:
For RISE, Doppler measurements will be made at times when the Earth is at low elevation, when the Doppler signature due to the rotation of Mars is largest. Two fixed medium-gain antennas, one pointed to the east and one pointed to the west, will be used to provide adequate gain for RISE.
While InSight is still moving horizontally with high velocity during its entry, it has its velocity vector (from whence it comes) as a reference with respect to the terrain. But very near the end of its seven minutes of terror, in the final hover and drop, what reference will it use for lateral orientation (rotation about the vertical)?
There's no useful planetary magnetic field for direction-finding. Is it known what cues the landing system will actually use to orient InSight correctly?
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I am going to taste a guess before looking up for references. I feel that surface features might be compared with the database of images from MRO, which might help in identifying the cardinal direction. Usually, the remote landing employs a camera to look directly below the probe, right from a altitude of few kilometers
– karthikeyan
3 hours ago
1
@karthikeyan I have a hunch that you have good taste in guesses ;-) I think there are some other answers here about terrain-based navigation on Mars in general, that may have helpful resources.
– uhoh
3 hours ago
haha! It was a typo. I meant "I am going to TAKE a guess..". Anyways, thanks for the suggestions to look into. I'll start my hunt
– karthikeyan
3 hours ago
1
there seems to be a lack of attitude related information! And I consider my camera backed answer as the resolutions from MRO and lander might be different.
– karthikeyan
28 mins ago
add a comment |
1
I am going to taste a guess before looking up for references. I feel that surface features might be compared with the database of images from MRO, which might help in identifying the cardinal direction. Usually, the remote landing employs a camera to look directly below the probe, right from a altitude of few kilometers
– karthikeyan
3 hours ago
1
@karthikeyan I have a hunch that you have good taste in guesses ;-) I think there are some other answers here about terrain-based navigation on Mars in general, that may have helpful resources.
– uhoh
3 hours ago
haha! It was a typo. I meant "I am going to TAKE a guess..". Anyways, thanks for the suggestions to look into. I'll start my hunt
– karthikeyan
3 hours ago
1
there seems to be a lack of attitude related information! And I consider my camera backed answer as the resolutions from MRO and lander might be different.
– karthikeyan
28 mins ago
1
1
I am going to taste a guess before looking up for references. I feel that surface features might be compared with the database of images from MRO, which might help in identifying the cardinal direction. Usually, the remote landing employs a camera to look directly below the probe, right from a altitude of few kilometers
– karthikeyan
3 hours ago
I am going to taste a guess before looking up for references. I feel that surface features might be compared with the database of images from MRO, which might help in identifying the cardinal direction. Usually, the remote landing employs a camera to look directly below the probe, right from a altitude of few kilometers
– karthikeyan
3 hours ago
1
1
@karthikeyan I have a hunch that you have good taste in guesses ;-) I think there are some other answers here about terrain-based navigation on Mars in general, that may have helpful resources.
– uhoh
3 hours ago
@karthikeyan I have a hunch that you have good taste in guesses ;-) I think there are some other answers here about terrain-based navigation on Mars in general, that may have helpful resources.
– uhoh
3 hours ago
haha! It was a typo. I meant "I am going to TAKE a guess..". Anyways, thanks for the suggestions to look into. I'll start my hunt
– karthikeyan
3 hours ago
haha! It was a typo. I meant "I am going to TAKE a guess..". Anyways, thanks for the suggestions to look into. I'll start my hunt
– karthikeyan
3 hours ago
1
1
there seems to be a lack of attitude related information! And I consider my camera backed answer as the resolutions from MRO and lander might be different.
– karthikeyan
28 mins ago
there seems to be a lack of attitude related information! And I consider my camera backed answer as the resolutions from MRO and lander might be different.
– karthikeyan
28 mins ago
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By integrating inertial measurements, initialized from the final star tracking about 20 or 30 minutes earlier.
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Life would be so much easier if we had two, dissimilar Suns.
– uhoh
1 hour ago
okay then: Why are InSight's two RISE horns pointed slightly south of east, and north of west?
– uhoh
1 hour ago
Wouldn’t the integrating method have significant error, if the period of integration is for 20-30mins?
– karthikeyan
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By integrating inertial measurements, initialized from the final star tracking about 20 or 30 minutes earlier.
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Life would be so much easier if we had two, dissimilar Suns.
– uhoh
1 hour ago
okay then: Why are InSight's two RISE horns pointed slightly south of east, and north of west?
– uhoh
1 hour ago
Wouldn’t the integrating method have significant error, if the period of integration is for 20-30mins?
– karthikeyan
30 mins ago
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By integrating inertial measurements, initialized from the final star tracking about 20 or 30 minutes earlier.
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Life would be so much easier if we had two, dissimilar Suns.
– uhoh
1 hour ago
okay then: Why are InSight's two RISE horns pointed slightly south of east, and north of west?
– uhoh
1 hour ago
Wouldn’t the integrating method have significant error, if the period of integration is for 20-30mins?
– karthikeyan
30 mins ago
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By integrating inertial measurements, initialized from the final star tracking about 20 or 30 minutes earlier.
By integrating inertial measurements, initialized from the final star tracking about 20 or 30 minutes earlier.
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Life would be so much easier if we had two, dissimilar Suns.
– uhoh
1 hour ago
okay then: Why are InSight's two RISE horns pointed slightly south of east, and north of west?
– uhoh
1 hour ago
Wouldn’t the integrating method have significant error, if the period of integration is for 20-30mins?
– karthikeyan
30 mins ago
add a comment |
1
Life would be so much easier if we had two, dissimilar Suns.
– uhoh
1 hour ago
okay then: Why are InSight's two RISE horns pointed slightly south of east, and north of west?
– uhoh
1 hour ago
Wouldn’t the integrating method have significant error, if the period of integration is for 20-30mins?
– karthikeyan
30 mins ago
1
1
Life would be so much easier if we had two, dissimilar Suns.
– uhoh
1 hour ago
Life would be so much easier if we had two, dissimilar Suns.
– uhoh
1 hour ago
okay then: Why are InSight's two RISE horns pointed slightly south of east, and north of west?
– uhoh
1 hour ago
okay then: Why are InSight's two RISE horns pointed slightly south of east, and north of west?
– uhoh
1 hour ago
Wouldn’t the integrating method have significant error, if the period of integration is for 20-30mins?
– karthikeyan
30 mins ago
Wouldn’t the integrating method have significant error, if the period of integration is for 20-30mins?
– karthikeyan
30 mins ago
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I am going to taste a guess before looking up for references. I feel that surface features might be compared with the database of images from MRO, which might help in identifying the cardinal direction. Usually, the remote landing employs a camera to look directly below the probe, right from a altitude of few kilometers
– karthikeyan
3 hours ago
1
@karthikeyan I have a hunch that you have good taste in guesses ;-) I think there are some other answers here about terrain-based navigation on Mars in general, that may have helpful resources.
– uhoh
3 hours ago
haha! It was a typo. I meant "I am going to TAKE a guess..". Anyways, thanks for the suggestions to look into. I'll start my hunt
– karthikeyan
3 hours ago
1
there seems to be a lack of attitude related information! And I consider my camera backed answer as the resolutions from MRO and lander might be different.
– karthikeyan
28 mins ago