Is it correct to use comma before and after the word 'actually' in the following sentence?
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So, the sentence is:
I think we are all looking for an answer from someone who, actually, is a Hawking's student, at least I am.
I want to emphasize on the word 'actually' because someone who is not a Hawking's student answered the question that I asked on some other forum.
How good is it to use the commas before and after the word 'actually'?
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So, the sentence is:
I think we are all looking for an answer from someone who, actually, is a Hawking's student, at least I am.
I want to emphasize on the word 'actually' because someone who is not a Hawking's student answered the question that I asked on some other forum.
How good is it to use the commas before and after the word 'actually'?
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Idiomatically, most of us would say ...someone who is actually a Hawking's student, where no comma is required (the word actually can come before or after the verb is, depending on exactly what emphasis you want). And orthographically most of us would either start a new sentence or follow that with a dash, not a comma.
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Dec 12 '14 at 15:20
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The positioning of 'actually' can change what it does. And this example doesn't work. Also, what is a 'Hawking's student'? Is 'a student of Hawking' meant or 'a student of Hawking's'? (Or is there actually an establishment callled Hawking's College?)
– Edwin Ashworth
Dec 12 '14 at 16:06
@EdwinAshworth, By Hawking's student, I mean a student of Stephen Hawking.
– India Slaver
Dec 13 '14 at 2:36
It's not idiomatic to say "a Hawking's student". "A student of Hawking's" is correct if the student is/was tutored by Hawking; "a student of Hawking" if the person studies/studied the man and his work.
– Edwin Ashworth
Dec 13 '14 at 8:30
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So, the sentence is:
I think we are all looking for an answer from someone who, actually, is a Hawking's student, at least I am.
I want to emphasize on the word 'actually' because someone who is not a Hawking's student answered the question that I asked on some other forum.
How good is it to use the commas before and after the word 'actually'?
punctuation
So, the sentence is:
I think we are all looking for an answer from someone who, actually, is a Hawking's student, at least I am.
I want to emphasize on the word 'actually' because someone who is not a Hawking's student answered the question that I asked on some other forum.
How good is it to use the commas before and after the word 'actually'?
punctuation
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asked Dec 12 '14 at 15:09
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Idiomatically, most of us would say ...someone who is actually a Hawking's student, where no comma is required (the word actually can come before or after the verb is, depending on exactly what emphasis you want). And orthographically most of us would either start a new sentence or follow that with a dash, not a comma.
– FumbleFingers
Dec 12 '14 at 15:20
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The positioning of 'actually' can change what it does. And this example doesn't work. Also, what is a 'Hawking's student'? Is 'a student of Hawking' meant or 'a student of Hawking's'? (Or is there actually an establishment callled Hawking's College?)
– Edwin Ashworth
Dec 12 '14 at 16:06
@EdwinAshworth, By Hawking's student, I mean a student of Stephen Hawking.
– India Slaver
Dec 13 '14 at 2:36
It's not idiomatic to say "a Hawking's student". "A student of Hawking's" is correct if the student is/was tutored by Hawking; "a student of Hawking" if the person studies/studied the man and his work.
– Edwin Ashworth
Dec 13 '14 at 8:30
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Idiomatically, most of us would say ...someone who is actually a Hawking's student, where no comma is required (the word actually can come before or after the verb is, depending on exactly what emphasis you want). And orthographically most of us would either start a new sentence or follow that with a dash, not a comma.
– FumbleFingers
Dec 12 '14 at 15:20
1
The positioning of 'actually' can change what it does. And this example doesn't work. Also, what is a 'Hawking's student'? Is 'a student of Hawking' meant or 'a student of Hawking's'? (Or is there actually an establishment callled Hawking's College?)
– Edwin Ashworth
Dec 12 '14 at 16:06
@EdwinAshworth, By Hawking's student, I mean a student of Stephen Hawking.
– India Slaver
Dec 13 '14 at 2:36
It's not idiomatic to say "a Hawking's student". "A student of Hawking's" is correct if the student is/was tutored by Hawking; "a student of Hawking" if the person studies/studied the man and his work.
– Edwin Ashworth
Dec 13 '14 at 8:30
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Idiomatically, most of us would say ...someone who is actually a Hawking's student, where no comma is required (the word actually can come before or after the verb is, depending on exactly what emphasis you want). And orthographically most of us would either start a new sentence or follow that with a dash, not a comma.
– FumbleFingers
Dec 12 '14 at 15:20
Idiomatically, most of us would say ...someone who is actually a Hawking's student, where no comma is required (the word actually can come before or after the verb is, depending on exactly what emphasis you want). And orthographically most of us would either start a new sentence or follow that with a dash, not a comma.
– FumbleFingers
Dec 12 '14 at 15:20
1
1
The positioning of 'actually' can change what it does. And this example doesn't work. Also, what is a 'Hawking's student'? Is 'a student of Hawking' meant or 'a student of Hawking's'? (Or is there actually an establishment callled Hawking's College?)
– Edwin Ashworth
Dec 12 '14 at 16:06
The positioning of 'actually' can change what it does. And this example doesn't work. Also, what is a 'Hawking's student'? Is 'a student of Hawking' meant or 'a student of Hawking's'? (Or is there actually an establishment callled Hawking's College?)
– Edwin Ashworth
Dec 12 '14 at 16:06
@EdwinAshworth, By Hawking's student, I mean a student of Stephen Hawking.
– India Slaver
Dec 13 '14 at 2:36
@EdwinAshworth, By Hawking's student, I mean a student of Stephen Hawking.
– India Slaver
Dec 13 '14 at 2:36
It's not idiomatic to say "a Hawking's student". "A student of Hawking's" is correct if the student is/was tutored by Hawking; "a student of Hawking" if the person studies/studied the man and his work.
– Edwin Ashworth
Dec 13 '14 at 8:30
It's not idiomatic to say "a Hawking's student". "A student of Hawking's" is correct if the student is/was tutored by Hawking; "a student of Hawking" if the person studies/studied the man and his work.
– Edwin Ashworth
Dec 13 '14 at 8:30
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If anything, the commas weaken that sentence. They imply a pause either side of a rather heavily emphasised actually. This certainly gives some emphasis of feeling - in a rather confrontational or disputatious manner - but adds nothing to the issue of key importance to you.
Since the status of this other person (are they a Hawking's student or not?) is important to you, you should emphasise the agency of that. To do this, it would be better if actually and is were paired and emphasised together. Commas do not help here. Italics would be better
someone who actually is a Hawking's student
or reversing the order of those two words
someone who is actually a Hawking's student
Both options give a better flow, which sustains the energy of your debate. Drop the commas, which (to me) seem to diminish and hamper the tone.
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You could trying bolding or italisizing "is a Hawking's student", and just get rid of the actually.
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I would replace "actually" with a word such was bona fide or genuine. The sentence should read, "I think we are all looking for an answer from someone who is a bona fide student of Hawking, at least I am." You may even use a dash instead of the comma, depending on how much you want to emphasize the latter part of the sentence.
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Joe, the question asks about the correctness of the commas, not for an alternative wording. It would be better to post this as a comment rather than using the Answer Box. Comments are a privilege requiring 50 reputation points. You can earn these points fairly easily by posting good answers (each upvote earns you 10 pts) or questions (upvotes earn 5 pts). See How to Answer for tips on framing a good answer, and be sure to take the Tour. :-)
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If anything, the commas weaken that sentence. They imply a pause either side of a rather heavily emphasised actually. This certainly gives some emphasis of feeling - in a rather confrontational or disputatious manner - but adds nothing to the issue of key importance to you.
Since the status of this other person (are they a Hawking's student or not?) is important to you, you should emphasise the agency of that. To do this, it would be better if actually and is were paired and emphasised together. Commas do not help here. Italics would be better
someone who actually is a Hawking's student
or reversing the order of those two words
someone who is actually a Hawking's student
Both options give a better flow, which sustains the energy of your debate. Drop the commas, which (to me) seem to diminish and hamper the tone.
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If anything, the commas weaken that sentence. They imply a pause either side of a rather heavily emphasised actually. This certainly gives some emphasis of feeling - in a rather confrontational or disputatious manner - but adds nothing to the issue of key importance to you.
Since the status of this other person (are they a Hawking's student or not?) is important to you, you should emphasise the agency of that. To do this, it would be better if actually and is were paired and emphasised together. Commas do not help here. Italics would be better
someone who actually is a Hawking's student
or reversing the order of those two words
someone who is actually a Hawking's student
Both options give a better flow, which sustains the energy of your debate. Drop the commas, which (to me) seem to diminish and hamper the tone.
add a comment |
up vote
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up vote
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If anything, the commas weaken that sentence. They imply a pause either side of a rather heavily emphasised actually. This certainly gives some emphasis of feeling - in a rather confrontational or disputatious manner - but adds nothing to the issue of key importance to you.
Since the status of this other person (are they a Hawking's student or not?) is important to you, you should emphasise the agency of that. To do this, it would be better if actually and is were paired and emphasised together. Commas do not help here. Italics would be better
someone who actually is a Hawking's student
or reversing the order of those two words
someone who is actually a Hawking's student
Both options give a better flow, which sustains the energy of your debate. Drop the commas, which (to me) seem to diminish and hamper the tone.
If anything, the commas weaken that sentence. They imply a pause either side of a rather heavily emphasised actually. This certainly gives some emphasis of feeling - in a rather confrontational or disputatious manner - but adds nothing to the issue of key importance to you.
Since the status of this other person (are they a Hawking's student or not?) is important to you, you should emphasise the agency of that. To do this, it would be better if actually and is were paired and emphasised together. Commas do not help here. Italics would be better
someone who actually is a Hawking's student
or reversing the order of those two words
someone who is actually a Hawking's student
Both options give a better flow, which sustains the energy of your debate. Drop the commas, which (to me) seem to diminish and hamper the tone.
answered Dec 12 '14 at 15:54
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You could trying bolding or italisizing "is a Hawking's student", and just get rid of the actually.
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You could trying bolding or italisizing "is a Hawking's student", and just get rid of the actually.
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You could trying bolding or italisizing "is a Hawking's student", and just get rid of the actually.
You could trying bolding or italisizing "is a Hawking's student", and just get rid of the actually.
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I would replace "actually" with a word such was bona fide or genuine. The sentence should read, "I think we are all looking for an answer from someone who is a bona fide student of Hawking, at least I am." You may even use a dash instead of the comma, depending on how much you want to emphasize the latter part of the sentence.
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Joe, the question asks about the correctness of the commas, not for an alternative wording. It would be better to post this as a comment rather than using the Answer Box. Comments are a privilege requiring 50 reputation points. You can earn these points fairly easily by posting good answers (each upvote earns you 10 pts) or questions (upvotes earn 5 pts). See How to Answer for tips on framing a good answer, and be sure to take the Tour. :-)
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I would replace "actually" with a word such was bona fide or genuine. The sentence should read, "I think we are all looking for an answer from someone who is a bona fide student of Hawking, at least I am." You may even use a dash instead of the comma, depending on how much you want to emphasize the latter part of the sentence.
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Joe, the question asks about the correctness of the commas, not for an alternative wording. It would be better to post this as a comment rather than using the Answer Box. Comments are a privilege requiring 50 reputation points. You can earn these points fairly easily by posting good answers (each upvote earns you 10 pts) or questions (upvotes earn 5 pts). See How to Answer for tips on framing a good answer, and be sure to take the Tour. :-)
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I would replace "actually" with a word such was bona fide or genuine. The sentence should read, "I think we are all looking for an answer from someone who is a bona fide student of Hawking, at least I am." You may even use a dash instead of the comma, depending on how much you want to emphasize the latter part of the sentence.
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I would replace "actually" with a word such was bona fide or genuine. The sentence should read, "I think we are all looking for an answer from someone who is a bona fide student of Hawking, at least I am." You may even use a dash instead of the comma, depending on how much you want to emphasize the latter part of the sentence.
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Joe, the question asks about the correctness of the commas, not for an alternative wording. It would be better to post this as a comment rather than using the Answer Box. Comments are a privilege requiring 50 reputation points. You can earn these points fairly easily by posting good answers (each upvote earns you 10 pts) or questions (upvotes earn 5 pts). See How to Answer for tips on framing a good answer, and be sure to take the Tour. :-)
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Joe, the question asks about the correctness of the commas, not for an alternative wording. It would be better to post this as a comment rather than using the Answer Box. Comments are a privilege requiring 50 reputation points. You can earn these points fairly easily by posting good answers (each upvote earns you 10 pts) or questions (upvotes earn 5 pts). See How to Answer for tips on framing a good answer, and be sure to take the Tour. :-)
– Chappo
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Joe, the question asks about the correctness of the commas, not for an alternative wording. It would be better to post this as a comment rather than using the Answer Box. Comments are a privilege requiring 50 reputation points. You can earn these points fairly easily by posting good answers (each upvote earns you 10 pts) or questions (upvotes earn 5 pts). See How to Answer for tips on framing a good answer, and be sure to take the Tour. :-)
– Chappo
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Joe, the question asks about the correctness of the commas, not for an alternative wording. It would be better to post this as a comment rather than using the Answer Box. Comments are a privilege requiring 50 reputation points. You can earn these points fairly easily by posting good answers (each upvote earns you 10 pts) or questions (upvotes earn 5 pts). See How to Answer for tips on framing a good answer, and be sure to take the Tour. :-)
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Idiomatically, most of us would say ...someone who is actually a Hawking's student, where no comma is required (the word actually can come before or after the verb is, depending on exactly what emphasis you want). And orthographically most of us would either start a new sentence or follow that with a dash, not a comma.
– FumbleFingers
Dec 12 '14 at 15:20
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The positioning of 'actually' can change what it does. And this example doesn't work. Also, what is a 'Hawking's student'? Is 'a student of Hawking' meant or 'a student of Hawking's'? (Or is there actually an establishment callled Hawking's College?)
– Edwin Ashworth
Dec 12 '14 at 16:06
@EdwinAshworth, By Hawking's student, I mean a student of Stephen Hawking.
– India Slaver
Dec 13 '14 at 2:36
It's not idiomatic to say "a Hawking's student". "A student of Hawking's" is correct if the student is/was tutored by Hawking; "a student of Hawking" if the person studies/studied the man and his work.
– Edwin Ashworth
Dec 13 '14 at 8:30