50% O₂ 25% Neon 23% Nitrogen and 3% trace gasses?
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Could an atmosphere of 50% O₂ 25% Neon 23% Nitrogen and 3% trace gasses be survivable for a human being at the similar or slightly less atmospheric pressures as Earth?
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Could an atmosphere of 50% O₂ 25% Neon 23% Nitrogen and 3% trace gasses be survivable for a human being at the similar or slightly less atmospheric pressures as Earth?
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This environment is almost certainly fatal, due to Oxygen Toxicity:
When the exposure to oxygen above 0.5 bar (50 kPa) is intermittent, it permits the lungs to recover and delays the onset of toxicity.
0.5 bar would be your 50% O2 level at atmospheric pressures, so current medical knowledge says exposure to this environment must be intermittent.
Oxygen toxicity occurs at points above 0.3 bar (30% at 1atm). It's more trouble as one progresses to higher levels, but that shows that such high oxygen levels are going to cause problems.
answered 3 hours ago
Cort Ammon
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Thank you, do you think if I lessened the atmospheric pressures or increased elevation that this would improve survival conditions?
– Francesca Ruth
3 hours ago
Decreasing would help, but you'd have to decrease it quite a lot. If you dropped the atmosphere to a little above half of our atmosphere, you could get the O2 levels low enough to be safe.
– Cort Ammon
2 hours ago
If you've got 1 atm pressure but 50% Oxygen could you use e.g. a filter mask of some sort to reduce oxygen content in some way to safe levels ?
– StephenG
5 mins ago
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Even if the toxicity didn't do them in, this atmosphere would turn a small firecracker into a grenade. Higher concentrations of oxygen make things burn and/or explode more intensely.
Don't believe just because I'm saying this. Watch this video (you may jump to 0:50).
Humans are dumb, and explosions are a recurring theme in the Darwin Awards. Any large group of people wouldn't survive in that atmosphere even if they were breathing an Earth-like mix of gases from a scuba gear.
answered 2 hours ago
Renan
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If 3% traces are not a problem. Then the only thing that rises concern is an oxygen levels. Oxygen toxicity, as stated, will be part of your problems, as there are more, like production of oxygen species, sight defects and blindness in infants and more.
- Oxygen at 50% is around levels that have no prominent toxicity for humans. So any healthy adult human will be able to live in such an atmosphere.
- Such levels will be a problem for the weaker ones: children, elderly, sick. Your population will age faster and live less, your child mortality and birth defects most likely will push them to extinction.
Good options are:
- We live high. With altitude there is less air, so less oxygen partial pressure. Living 4000 m - will deal with most of problems, around 6000 meters will be Earth like. Do not forget your pressure cooker.
- Balance atmosphere pressure and composition. You would like your oxygen partial pressure to be less than 30 kPa.
Of note such an atmosphere is a fire hazard and promotes corrosion.
answered 1 hour ago
Artemijs Danilovs
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3 Answers
3
active
oldest
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active
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active
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up vote
4
down vote
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This environment is almost certainly fatal, due to Oxygen Toxicity:
When the exposure to oxygen above 0.5 bar (50 kPa) is intermittent, it permits the lungs to recover and delays the onset of toxicity.
0.5 bar would be your 50% O2 level at atmospheric pressures, so current medical knowledge says exposure to this environment must be intermittent.
Oxygen toxicity occurs at points above 0.3 bar (30% at 1atm). It's more trouble as one progresses to higher levels, but that shows that such high oxygen levels are going to cause problems.
answered 3 hours ago
Cort Ammon
106k17183375
Thank you, do you think if I lessened the atmospheric pressures or increased elevation that this would improve survival conditions?
– Francesca Ruth
3 hours ago
Decreasing would help, but you'd have to decrease it quite a lot. If you dropped the atmosphere to a little above half of our atmosphere, you could get the O2 levels low enough to be safe.
– Cort Ammon
2 hours ago
If you've got 1 atm pressure but 50% Oxygen could you use e.g. a filter mask of some sort to reduce oxygen content in some way to safe levels ?
– StephenG
5 mins ago
add a comment |
up vote
4
down vote
accepted
This environment is almost certainly fatal, due to Oxygen Toxicity:
When the exposure to oxygen above 0.5 bar (50 kPa) is intermittent, it permits the lungs to recover and delays the onset of toxicity.
0.5 bar would be your 50% O2 level at atmospheric pressures, so current medical knowledge says exposure to this environment must be intermittent.
Oxygen toxicity occurs at points above 0.3 bar (30% at 1atm). It's more trouble as one progresses to higher levels, but that shows that such high oxygen levels are going to cause problems.
answered 3 hours ago
Cort Ammon
106k17183375
Thank you, do you think if I lessened the atmospheric pressures or increased elevation that this would improve survival conditions?
– Francesca Ruth
3 hours ago
Decreasing would help, but you'd have to decrease it quite a lot. If you dropped the atmosphere to a little above half of our atmosphere, you could get the O2 levels low enough to be safe.
– Cort Ammon
2 hours ago
If you've got 1 atm pressure but 50% Oxygen could you use e.g. a filter mask of some sort to reduce oxygen content in some way to safe levels ?
– StephenG
5 mins ago
add a comment |
up vote
4
down vote
accepted
up vote
4
down vote
accepted
This environment is almost certainly fatal, due to Oxygen Toxicity:
When the exposure to oxygen above 0.5 bar (50 kPa) is intermittent, it permits the lungs to recover and delays the onset of toxicity.
0.5 bar would be your 50% O2 level at atmospheric pressures, so current medical knowledge says exposure to this environment must be intermittent.
Oxygen toxicity occurs at points above 0.3 bar (30% at 1atm). It's more trouble as one progresses to higher levels, but that shows that such high oxygen levels are going to cause problems.
answered 3 hours ago
Cort Ammon
106k17183375
This environment is almost certainly fatal, due to Oxygen Toxicity:
When the exposure to oxygen above 0.5 bar (50 kPa) is intermittent, it permits the lungs to recover and delays the onset of toxicity.
0.5 bar would be your 50% O2 level at atmospheric pressures, so current medical knowledge says exposure to this environment must be intermittent.
Oxygen toxicity occurs at points above 0.3 bar (30% at 1atm). It's more trouble as one progresses to higher levels, but that shows that such high oxygen levels are going to cause problems.
answered 3 hours ago
Cort Ammon
106k17183375
answered 3 hours ago
Cort Ammon
106k17183375
answered 3 hours ago
Cort Ammon
106k17183375
answered 3 hours ago
Cort Ammon
106k17183375
106k17183375
Thank you, do you think if I lessened the atmospheric pressures or increased elevation that this would improve survival conditions?
– Francesca Ruth
3 hours ago
Decreasing would help, but you'd have to decrease it quite a lot. If you dropped the atmosphere to a little above half of our atmosphere, you could get the O2 levels low enough to be safe.
– Cort Ammon
2 hours ago
If you've got 1 atm pressure but 50% Oxygen could you use e.g. a filter mask of some sort to reduce oxygen content in some way to safe levels ?
– StephenG
5 mins ago
add a comment |
Thank you, do you think if I lessened the atmospheric pressures or increased elevation that this would improve survival conditions?
– Francesca Ruth
3 hours ago
Decreasing would help, but you'd have to decrease it quite a lot. If you dropped the atmosphere to a little above half of our atmosphere, you could get the O2 levels low enough to be safe.
– Cort Ammon
2 hours ago
If you've got 1 atm pressure but 50% Oxygen could you use e.g. a filter mask of some sort to reduce oxygen content in some way to safe levels ?
– StephenG
5 mins ago
Thank you, do you think if I lessened the atmospheric pressures or increased elevation that this would improve survival conditions?
– Francesca Ruth
3 hours ago
Thank you, do you think if I lessened the atmospheric pressures or increased elevation that this would improve survival conditions?
– Francesca Ruth
3 hours ago
Decreasing would help, but you'd have to decrease it quite a lot. If you dropped the atmosphere to a little above half of our atmosphere, you could get the O2 levels low enough to be safe.
– Cort Ammon
2 hours ago
Decreasing would help, but you'd have to decrease it quite a lot. If you dropped the atmosphere to a little above half of our atmosphere, you could get the O2 levels low enough to be safe.
– Cort Ammon
2 hours ago
If you've got 1 atm pressure but 50% Oxygen could you use e.g. a filter mask of some sort to reduce oxygen content in some way to safe levels ?
– StephenG
5 mins ago
If you've got 1 atm pressure but 50% Oxygen could you use e.g. a filter mask of some sort to reduce oxygen content in some way to safe levels ?
– StephenG
5 mins ago
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
Even if the toxicity didn't do them in, this atmosphere would turn a small firecracker into a grenade. Higher concentrations of oxygen make things burn and/or explode more intensely.
Don't believe just because I'm saying this. Watch this video (you may jump to 0:50).
Humans are dumb, and explosions are a recurring theme in the Darwin Awards. Any large group of people wouldn't survive in that atmosphere even if they were breathing an Earth-like mix of gases from a scuba gear.
answered 2 hours ago
Renan
41k1194207
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
Even if the toxicity didn't do them in, this atmosphere would turn a small firecracker into a grenade. Higher concentrations of oxygen make things burn and/or explode more intensely.
Don't believe just because I'm saying this. Watch this video (you may jump to 0:50).
Humans are dumb, and explosions are a recurring theme in the Darwin Awards. Any large group of people wouldn't survive in that atmosphere even if they were breathing an Earth-like mix of gases from a scuba gear.
answered 2 hours ago
Renan
41k1194207
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
0
down vote
Even if the toxicity didn't do them in, this atmosphere would turn a small firecracker into a grenade. Higher concentrations of oxygen make things burn and/or explode more intensely.
Don't believe just because I'm saying this. Watch this video (you may jump to 0:50).
Humans are dumb, and explosions are a recurring theme in the Darwin Awards. Any large group of people wouldn't survive in that atmosphere even if they were breathing an Earth-like mix of gases from a scuba gear.
answered 2 hours ago
Renan
41k1194207
Even if the toxicity didn't do them in, this atmosphere would turn a small firecracker into a grenade. Higher concentrations of oxygen make things burn and/or explode more intensely.
Don't believe just because I'm saying this. Watch this video (you may jump to 0:50).
Humans are dumb, and explosions are a recurring theme in the Darwin Awards. Any large group of people wouldn't survive in that atmosphere even if they were breathing an Earth-like mix of gases from a scuba gear.
answered 2 hours ago
Renan
41k1194207
answered 2 hours ago
Renan
41k1194207
answered 2 hours ago
Renan
41k1194207
answered 2 hours ago
Renan
41k1194207
41k1194207
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If 3% traces are not a problem. Then the only thing that rises concern is an oxygen levels. Oxygen toxicity, as stated, will be part of your problems, as there are more, like production of oxygen species, sight defects and blindness in infants and more.
- Oxygen at 50% is around levels that have no prominent toxicity for humans. So any healthy adult human will be able to live in such an atmosphere.
- Such levels will be a problem for the weaker ones: children, elderly, sick. Your population will age faster and live less, your child mortality and birth defects most likely will push them to extinction.
Good options are:
- We live high. With altitude there is less air, so less oxygen partial pressure. Living 4000 m - will deal with most of problems, around 6000 meters will be Earth like. Do not forget your pressure cooker.
- Balance atmosphere pressure and composition. You would like your oxygen partial pressure to be less than 30 kPa.
Of note such an atmosphere is a fire hazard and promotes corrosion.
answered 1 hour ago
Artemijs Danilovs
79118
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
If 3% traces are not a problem. Then the only thing that rises concern is an oxygen levels. Oxygen toxicity, as stated, will be part of your problems, as there are more, like production of oxygen species, sight defects and blindness in infants and more.
- Oxygen at 50% is around levels that have no prominent toxicity for humans. So any healthy adult human will be able to live in such an atmosphere.
- Such levels will be a problem for the weaker ones: children, elderly, sick. Your population will age faster and live less, your child mortality and birth defects most likely will push them to extinction.
Good options are:
- We live high. With altitude there is less air, so less oxygen partial pressure. Living 4000 m - will deal with most of problems, around 6000 meters will be Earth like. Do not forget your pressure cooker.
- Balance atmosphere pressure and composition. You would like your oxygen partial pressure to be less than 30 kPa.
Of note such an atmosphere is a fire hazard and promotes corrosion.
answered 1 hour ago
Artemijs Danilovs
79118
add a comment |
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
0
down vote
If 3% traces are not a problem. Then the only thing that rises concern is an oxygen levels. Oxygen toxicity, as stated, will be part of your problems, as there are more, like production of oxygen species, sight defects and blindness in infants and more.
- Oxygen at 50% is around levels that have no prominent toxicity for humans. So any healthy adult human will be able to live in such an atmosphere.
- Such levels will be a problem for the weaker ones: children, elderly, sick. Your population will age faster and live less, your child mortality and birth defects most likely will push them to extinction.
Good options are:
- We live high. With altitude there is less air, so less oxygen partial pressure. Living 4000 m - will deal with most of problems, around 6000 meters will be Earth like. Do not forget your pressure cooker.
- Balance atmosphere pressure and composition. You would like your oxygen partial pressure to be less than 30 kPa.
Of note such an atmosphere is a fire hazard and promotes corrosion.
answered 1 hour ago
Artemijs Danilovs
79118
If 3% traces are not a problem. Then the only thing that rises concern is an oxygen levels. Oxygen toxicity, as stated, will be part of your problems, as there are more, like production of oxygen species, sight defects and blindness in infants and more.
- Oxygen at 50% is around levels that have no prominent toxicity for humans. So any healthy adult human will be able to live in such an atmosphere.
- Such levels will be a problem for the weaker ones: children, elderly, sick. Your population will age faster and live less, your child mortality and birth defects most likely will push them to extinction.
Good options are:
- We live high. With altitude there is less air, so less oxygen partial pressure. Living 4000 m - will deal with most of problems, around 6000 meters will be Earth like. Do not forget your pressure cooker.
- Balance atmosphere pressure and composition. You would like your oxygen partial pressure to be less than 30 kPa.
Of note such an atmosphere is a fire hazard and promotes corrosion.
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