Is it possible to get permanently scarred by the sea?
My story takes place in an archipelagus in world X, inhabited by people X.
In the shores of the capital city of that archipelagus, there is a bay of deep, dark waters. It's supposed to be dark and deep enough to feel scary and lovecraftian.
From that bay, people Y simply float up from the darkness, naked, and unconscious in a coma-like state, and are then literally fished with fishing nets and revived by a permanent patrol of glorified elite lifeguards, and are integrated into society X.
Upon being revived, people Y have little or no memory of who they are or where they came from but, those who do, all have the same memory: They came from world Y, and that's all the memory they have, most of the time.
Basically, the darkwater bay is a portal between world X and Y that no one remembers crossing. (There actually is much more to it but it's not exactly relevant to this question)
Most of the story revolves around the relationships between people X and Y, their power dynamics, prejudice, and cultural differences. I will most likely come back here for more questions but my question for today is: How can people Y be visually identified? (Both X and Y are regular humans)
I tought, at first, of some sort of scar from the salt water or sunburns from floating in the sea, or maybe marks from the fishing net (I intend on working on an insult from people X to people Y that compares them to fishes or something), but I'm not sure that's even possible.
How can the experience of floating in the sea (forgot to mention it's a tropical and sunny place) and then being fished by fishing nets physically mark people permanently?
(edit: Another idea I came up while writing this: Since I'm going for a lovecraftian feel, maybe jellyfish scars might be good, because they have tentacles and can somehow inject a toxin that might work as a plot device (such as, the toxin makes them not drown or something), and eventually, some special characters might have specially large scars, that somehow makes everyone go "OH MY GOD THAT SCAR IS SO BIG IT MUST NOT BE A REGULAR JELLYFISH BUT SOME MONSTER FROM THE DEPTHS!", which could work as an "imminent disaster" plot device. I google "jellyfish scars" and they definitely look like something out of lovecraft. Any opinions on jellyfish?)
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My story takes place in an archipelagus in world X, inhabited by people X.
In the shores of the capital city of that archipelagus, there is a bay of deep, dark waters. It's supposed to be dark and deep enough to feel scary and lovecraftian.
From that bay, people Y simply float up from the darkness, naked, and unconscious in a coma-like state, and are then literally fished with fishing nets and revived by a permanent patrol of glorified elite lifeguards, and are integrated into society X.
Upon being revived, people Y have little or no memory of who they are or where they came from but, those who do, all have the same memory: They came from world Y, and that's all the memory they have, most of the time.
Basically, the darkwater bay is a portal between world X and Y that no one remembers crossing. (There actually is much more to it but it's not exactly relevant to this question)
Most of the story revolves around the relationships between people X and Y, their power dynamics, prejudice, and cultural differences. I will most likely come back here for more questions but my question for today is: How can people Y be visually identified? (Both X and Y are regular humans)
I tought, at first, of some sort of scar from the salt water or sunburns from floating in the sea, or maybe marks from the fishing net (I intend on working on an insult from people X to people Y that compares them to fishes or something), but I'm not sure that's even possible.
How can the experience of floating in the sea (forgot to mention it's a tropical and sunny place) and then being fished by fishing nets physically mark people permanently?
(edit: Another idea I came up while writing this: Since I'm going for a lovecraftian feel, maybe jellyfish scars might be good, because they have tentacles and can somehow inject a toxin that might work as a plot device (such as, the toxin makes them not drown or something), and eventually, some special characters might have specially large scars, that somehow makes everyone go "OH MY GOD THAT SCAR IS SO BIG IT MUST NOT BE A REGULAR JELLYFISH BUT SOME MONSTER FROM THE DEPTHS!", which could work as an "imminent disaster" plot device. I google "jellyfish scars" and they definitely look like something out of lovecraft. Any opinions on jellyfish?)
biology geography
asked Nov 22 at 14:25
Gabriel Romero Ricardo
11925
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can you make the transport mechanism itself create the scar?
– ratchet freak
Nov 22 at 14:30
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"Most of the story revolves around the [...] cultural differences." How would there be cultural differences between the X-Men and the Y-Men if the majority of the Y-Men don't remember anything and those who do only remember their place of origin?
– Suthek
Nov 23 at 9:15
By the way, your question started out alright, but the edit at the end makes it opinion-based, asking for story ideas, and altogether off topic. You might consider rephrasing the last paragraph a bit.
– Mr Lister
Nov 23 at 11:13
1
I think the edit would be better as a self-answer to your own question.
– haykam
Nov 23 at 16:48
4
@Suthek: Severe cases of amnesia usually affect aspect some aspects of memory but not others — e.g. losing episodic memory but keeping procedural memory. A sufferer may have forgotten their name and events from their own life, but they may remember how to drive a car, and how to speak the language(s) they spoke before, and that dogs are friends but cats are pests, and that you must give thanks to the moon goddess before starting your meal…
– Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
Nov 24 at 12:45
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My story takes place in an archipelagus in world X, inhabited by people X.
In the shores of the capital city of that archipelagus, there is a bay of deep, dark waters. It's supposed to be dark and deep enough to feel scary and lovecraftian.
From that bay, people Y simply float up from the darkness, naked, and unconscious in a coma-like state, and are then literally fished with fishing nets and revived by a permanent patrol of glorified elite lifeguards, and are integrated into society X.
Upon being revived, people Y have little or no memory of who they are or where they came from but, those who do, all have the same memory: They came from world Y, and that's all the memory they have, most of the time.
Basically, the darkwater bay is a portal between world X and Y that no one remembers crossing. (There actually is much more to it but it's not exactly relevant to this question)
Most of the story revolves around the relationships between people X and Y, their power dynamics, prejudice, and cultural differences. I will most likely come back here for more questions but my question for today is: How can people Y be visually identified? (Both X and Y are regular humans)
I tought, at first, of some sort of scar from the salt water or sunburns from floating in the sea, or maybe marks from the fishing net (I intend on working on an insult from people X to people Y that compares them to fishes or something), but I'm not sure that's even possible.
How can the experience of floating in the sea (forgot to mention it's a tropical and sunny place) and then being fished by fishing nets physically mark people permanently?
(edit: Another idea I came up while writing this: Since I'm going for a lovecraftian feel, maybe jellyfish scars might be good, because they have tentacles and can somehow inject a toxin that might work as a plot device (such as, the toxin makes them not drown or something), and eventually, some special characters might have specially large scars, that somehow makes everyone go "OH MY GOD THAT SCAR IS SO BIG IT MUST NOT BE A REGULAR JELLYFISH BUT SOME MONSTER FROM THE DEPTHS!", which could work as an "imminent disaster" plot device. I google "jellyfish scars" and they definitely look like something out of lovecraft. Any opinions on jellyfish?)
biology geography
asked Nov 22 at 14:25
Gabriel Romero Ricardo
11925
My story takes place in an archipelagus in world X, inhabited by people X.
In the shores of the capital city of that archipelagus, there is a bay of deep, dark waters. It's supposed to be dark and deep enough to feel scary and lovecraftian.
From that bay, people Y simply float up from the darkness, naked, and unconscious in a coma-like state, and are then literally fished with fishing nets and revived by a permanent patrol of glorified elite lifeguards, and are integrated into society X.
Upon being revived, people Y have little or no memory of who they are or where they came from but, those who do, all have the same memory: They came from world Y, and that's all the memory they have, most of the time.
Basically, the darkwater bay is a portal between world X and Y that no one remembers crossing. (There actually is much more to it but it's not exactly relevant to this question)
Most of the story revolves around the relationships between people X and Y, their power dynamics, prejudice, and cultural differences. I will most likely come back here for more questions but my question for today is: How can people Y be visually identified? (Both X and Y are regular humans)
I tought, at first, of some sort of scar from the salt water or sunburns from floating in the sea, or maybe marks from the fishing net (I intend on working on an insult from people X to people Y that compares them to fishes or something), but I'm not sure that's even possible.
How can the experience of floating in the sea (forgot to mention it's a tropical and sunny place) and then being fished by fishing nets physically mark people permanently?
(edit: Another idea I came up while writing this: Since I'm going for a lovecraftian feel, maybe jellyfish scars might be good, because they have tentacles and can somehow inject a toxin that might work as a plot device (such as, the toxin makes them not drown or something), and eventually, some special characters might have specially large scars, that somehow makes everyone go "OH MY GOD THAT SCAR IS SO BIG IT MUST NOT BE A REGULAR JELLYFISH BUT SOME MONSTER FROM THE DEPTHS!", which could work as an "imminent disaster" plot device. I google "jellyfish scars" and they definitely look like something out of lovecraft. Any opinions on jellyfish?)
biology geography
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can you make the transport mechanism itself create the scar?
– ratchet freak
Nov 22 at 14:30
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"Most of the story revolves around the [...] cultural differences." How would there be cultural differences between the X-Men and the Y-Men if the majority of the Y-Men don't remember anything and those who do only remember their place of origin?
– Suthek
Nov 23 at 9:15
By the way, your question started out alright, but the edit at the end makes it opinion-based, asking for story ideas, and altogether off topic. You might consider rephrasing the last paragraph a bit.
– Mr Lister
Nov 23 at 11:13
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I think the edit would be better as a self-answer to your own question.
– haykam
Nov 23 at 16:48
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@Suthek: Severe cases of amnesia usually affect aspect some aspects of memory but not others — e.g. losing episodic memory but keeping procedural memory. A sufferer may have forgotten their name and events from their own life, but they may remember how to drive a car, and how to speak the language(s) they spoke before, and that dogs are friends but cats are pests, and that you must give thanks to the moon goddess before starting your meal…
– Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
Nov 24 at 12:45
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can you make the transport mechanism itself create the scar?
– ratchet freak
Nov 22 at 14:30
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"Most of the story revolves around the [...] cultural differences." How would there be cultural differences between the X-Men and the Y-Men if the majority of the Y-Men don't remember anything and those who do only remember their place of origin?
– Suthek
Nov 23 at 9:15
By the way, your question started out alright, but the edit at the end makes it opinion-based, asking for story ideas, and altogether off topic. You might consider rephrasing the last paragraph a bit.
– Mr Lister
Nov 23 at 11:13
1
I think the edit would be better as a self-answer to your own question.
– haykam
Nov 23 at 16:48
4
@Suthek: Severe cases of amnesia usually affect aspect some aspects of memory but not others — e.g. losing episodic memory but keeping procedural memory. A sufferer may have forgotten their name and events from their own life, but they may remember how to drive a car, and how to speak the language(s) they spoke before, and that dogs are friends but cats are pests, and that you must give thanks to the moon goddess before starting your meal…
– Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
Nov 24 at 12:45
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3
can you make the transport mechanism itself create the scar?
– ratchet freak
Nov 22 at 14:30
can you make the transport mechanism itself create the scar?
– ratchet freak
Nov 22 at 14:30
4
4
"Most of the story revolves around the [...] cultural differences." How would there be cultural differences between the X-Men and the Y-Men if the majority of the Y-Men don't remember anything and those who do only remember their place of origin?
– Suthek
Nov 23 at 9:15
"Most of the story revolves around the [...] cultural differences." How would there be cultural differences between the X-Men and the Y-Men if the majority of the Y-Men don't remember anything and those who do only remember their place of origin?
– Suthek
Nov 23 at 9:15
By the way, your question started out alright, but the edit at the end makes it opinion-based, asking for story ideas, and altogether off topic. You might consider rephrasing the last paragraph a bit.
– Mr Lister
Nov 23 at 11:13
By the way, your question started out alright, but the edit at the end makes it opinion-based, asking for story ideas, and altogether off topic. You might consider rephrasing the last paragraph a bit.
– Mr Lister
Nov 23 at 11:13
1
1
I think the edit would be better as a self-answer to your own question.
– haykam
Nov 23 at 16:48
I think the edit would be better as a self-answer to your own question.
– haykam
Nov 23 at 16:48
4
4
@Suthek: Severe cases of amnesia usually affect aspect some aspects of memory but not others — e.g. losing episodic memory but keeping procedural memory. A sufferer may have forgotten their name and events from their own life, but they may remember how to drive a car, and how to speak the language(s) they spoke before, and that dogs are friends but cats are pests, and that you must give thanks to the moon goddess before starting your meal…
– Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
Nov 24 at 12:45
@Suthek: Severe cases of amnesia usually affect aspect some aspects of memory but not others — e.g. losing episodic memory but keeping procedural memory. A sufferer may have forgotten their name and events from their own life, but they may remember how to drive a car, and how to speak the language(s) they spoke before, and that dogs are friends but cats are pests, and that you must give thanks to the moon goddess before starting your meal…
– Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
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You want something Lovecraftian?
Above is a lamprey. Below is a healed lamprey wound on a human. When your poor Y-folk are recovered at sea, the fishermen burn off the lampreys that seem to love human flesh. Once they heal, they are permanently covered by circular, toothy-looking scars.
answered Nov 22 at 15:34
kingledion
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These lampreys would of course congregate around the exit portals waiting for vicims.
– chasly from UK
Nov 22 at 16:56
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Goddamit Nature, every request for something weird and lovecraftian comes with a "Nature did it first" answer. Nature be scary.
– Kyyshak
Nov 23 at 11:35
That’s perfect! Just add a hole in the middle of the scar.
– Robus
Nov 23 at 16:32
terrifying right ? keep away from the deeps !
– Fattie
Nov 24 at 4:13
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Presumably the nickname for these people would be 'suckers'!
– chasly from UK
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Beware the monsters and their tentacles
Given that they would be long dead if they'd spent more than a few minutes in the deep dark along with my own experience spending hours sailing on salt water. No, the sea itself is not going to scar them directly in the short term. However long term exposure to salt water will cause physical damage.
Depending what the geography is like, both hard corals and barnacle covered rocks will do considerable damage to exposed skin. The sea is full of predators who might take a bite out of a passing body, but if you're looking for lovecraftian, the giant squid sucker scars that many sperm whales carry show that there's definitely something alive down there with tentacles capable of doing significant damage as you pass through. It's entirely reasonable for your people to be coming up with injuries.
You're asking for scars though. Scars are a side effect of healing, you only see scars on old injuries. The people coming out of the water should be recently injured, not carrying old scars.
answered Nov 22 at 14:32
Separatrix
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In this case, you'd also get dead people floating to the surface and even body parts.
– chasly from UK
Nov 22 at 15:50
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@chaslyfromUK yes, if you're getting scars on the scale requested, you're also getting corpses
– Separatrix
Nov 22 at 16:40
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Also you can expect some lucky people to escape scar-free.
– chasly from UK
Nov 22 at 16:53
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@Seperatrix :Not is the Unknowable Horrors of the Deep are also altruistic. Perhaps they’re operating their own elite lifeguard force to pull poor unconscious humans out of a portal on the seabed and get them safely up to the surface and keep them floating face up until their human counterparts are near. Some scarring is expected but they do their best to keep it superficial.
– Joe Bloggs
Nov 22 at 17:20
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Don't forget the teeth & hooks on those tentacle suckers! If you stick with existing ones [ reddit.com/r/natureismetal/comments/8gsk0u/… ] you get far, but you can elaborate to more body horror.
– user3445853
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Any of the regular prejudice justifications can work in this scenario. Perhaps the people of World Y have darker skin, slanted eyes or red hair. They might be taller or shorter or even have slightly different body chemistry which expresses itself as an odor.
It is likely that cause for any scars encountered during the brief/survivable rise to the surface, would also be encountered regularly by the fishermen/lifeguards who save them. That might make for an interesting statement about the true nature of prejudice since the maligning mark on people Y would be a badge of honor, assumed to be earned in noble service when worn by a person of X.
The mark might also be sourced by something on World Y or from the void between worlds which travelers must pass through when going through the portal. Since you are going for a Lovecraftian feel, leave the specific nature of these void dwellers obscure but imply (via surviving memories) that many more people attempt the portal passage than the few who survive the journey.
Mixing all these options together, imagine that fundamentally the people of world Y are asthetically different (maybe pale green skin) which means even the lucky scar free are still victimized. Then allow the void dwellers to venture out from the portal for brief periods of time where the X lifeguards encounter them and earn their badges of honor. And give the Y people memories of loved ones who they never would have left behind but who didn't make it through the portal.
Now all that is left is to choose what you want the scar to look like and then create a void dweller creature that can inflict it. Perhaps a tentacle sucker scar like @Separatrix suggested, but triangular rather than the earth-norm oval. That way you can keep with your alphabetic abbreviations. The scars could look like the capital letter A which should provide the hateful members of the X's with plenty of slurs for their vitriol.
answered Nov 22 at 15:15
Henry Taylor
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The Y people are exiles. They have committed some criminal act in their home world where execution is banned and imprisonment is very expensive. They are not necessarily considered bad in X - it depends on the crime. Maybe they have refused to fight in the army.
To prevent them ever returning through the portal, they are tattooed on their forehead with the legend "Exile" in their own language. The X language is pictographic and the word for exile is a picture of a beetle. The Ys are therefore nicknamed 'beetles' by the Xs.
answered Nov 22 at 18:50
chasly from UK
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Or, World Y believe they execute those people, when in reality they send them to world X.
– Wilson
Nov 23 at 14:29
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You could also replace "exile" with "ritual sacrifice to appease the portal-god-thing".
– NotThatGuy
Nov 25 at 21:17
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That's interesting. I didn't really reveal the totality of the nature of the passage, and this wouldn't completely work but I will keep something like this in mind, thanks
– Gabriel Romero Ricardo
Nov 28 at 17:30
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Depending on the story, these Y people could have the general look of drowned corpses at sea: bleached skin, slightly bleached hair, a general, incurable, swelling of the abdomen, circled eyes, cold to the touch, a watery gaze, an oily mucuous layer at the mouth. You could add random drooling as a result of the water still in their body, and the inability to perceive flavors in the same way X people do due to having been with salty water in their mouth for far too long. Also, the salt left in their ear channel after drying might give them a natural distortion to hearing if not a partial disability.
While these are not literal scars, they are marks that are distinctive enough to be used for discrimination.
answered Nov 23 at 9:18
NofP
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This is good. All of these characteristics together might be a little extreme, but some of the more subtle ones like the bleached hair and the flavour disability might be good. Thanks
– Gabriel Romero Ricardo
Nov 28 at 17:33
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Concerning your interrogation on jellyfish scars
These scars can be pretty impressive and can last for a very long time : At least on certain part of the body, from my personal experience. I know this subject as I got burned by one of them 20 years ago and I still have the mark on my lips ! yes I took the jellyfish straight in my face... !
Your jellyfishes can be regular ones and not necessarily deadly ones. If they are numerous enough, the probability for Y people to get marks on lips for life is pretty high and could become their distinctive sign.
I can already hear the jokes:
"Jelly Kisser..."
Picture of the leg of a 10 year-old girl who got burned by a box jellyfish if you want severe burnings :
Picture link
answered Nov 23 at 13:19
Freedomjail
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May I introduce you to Ross Edgley. He recently swam all the way around Britain in 157 days not touching land until he completed his target.
Along the way his hands and feet would have shrivelled and essentially gotten trench foot. His tongue was exposed to so much salt water that it started drying out and chunks fell out, there are videos of him pulling pieces of his tongue off! And he had chafing around his wetsuit...a lot of chafing. So much so that people started calling him 'rhino neck'.
I would hazard a guess that some mechanism in your complex saltwater portal could have a side effect of prolonged salt water exposure (even if they are only exposed for a short time, they appear to have had prolonged exposure). I know your characters arrive naked, but they could have initially had clothing/jewellary to provide some sort of abrasive chaffing action that would result in similar scar like features as the photo below. Maybe, something that falls off during the final stage of the portalling.
If you are wanting to be able to identify the same scar on each Character Y, say around the neck, then give them something to wear around that limb that makes the portalling succeed (a 'portal key' of some sort). Like a 'lucky charm'/'religious icon'/'fashion item'/'hospital tag'/'prisoner id' etc that they may or may not be aware of the full intended use of.
answered Nov 24 at 14:07
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Just make them pale.
Xs sound like they're outdoor a lot, on top of that I pictured them in kinda the carribean or so, meaning that they would have a rather brownish, at least well tanned skin.
Y however come from the depths, maybe Place Y is also less sunny (or even in a cave, who knows) so they can't even become tan.
That would leave them in an unhealthy pale (maybe they can become "normal" [fair-skinned European by complexity] after a while, but will never reach a skin tone that is healthy in Xs environment).
This would make up for a ton of cheap and quick insults.
If you really wanna insult with fish: fish have white flesh, so you can start there
answered Nov 23 at 10:28
Hobbamok
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Ah, racial slurs: Always a winner if you're looking for material on prejudices/bigotry.
– Agi Hammerthief
Nov 23 at 10:58
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Since the people of Y have to float through deep water to get to X, one of their adaptations can be visible gills on their necks. Otherwise how can they survive without oxygen? The gills can be natural (i.e. will be visible on future generations of Y children born on world X) or can be the result of advanced surgical techniques on world Y. You can create some great story lines about discrimination, redemption, and conflicts between black, white, brown, and transgender people with gills. Perhaps a brown female Aqua Force commando can lead a SWAT team to battle the underwater terrorists of a transgender separatist YExit warlord?
answered Nov 22 at 16:41
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In order to survive the journey from world Y to world X (= being submerged in the water without oxygen for an extended period of time), the Y people could have to enter a symbiosis with another organism which provides their host with oxygen. This other organism would latch onto its host's mouth and/or nose - think facehuggers - and die shortly after exiting the water leaving clearly visible facial scars.
answered Nov 24 at 12:30
Drahtbart
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This is definetely an underrated response. I think this could add a sublte realistic touch to the portal because, indeed, they need some aid to survive the floating up. I like the lampreys idea + this one + some huge mysterious monster for some special plot event that kill the portal travellers. Thanks!
– Gabriel Romero Ricardo
Nov 28 at 17:36
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It is, in fact, possible to cut something with jet of water.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_jet_cutter
Have those people covered head-to-toe with webbing of scars from strange, unnatural tides.
answered Nov 23 at 10:37
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Well ... 'pure' water drains the skin. Maybe they look like old grandmas (a bit extreme) until they refill their skin.
The following insult is something like:
"Is he/she drug addicted? [please enter an insulting joke against drug addicted]"
or:
"he/she looks like a grandma can you tell me how have my skin so carefully folded like yours?"
I'm not quite good with insulting people ... Is this a strengh of myself?
Hope this helps :)
answered Nov 22 at 15:10
Jannis
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Water drains the skin.. wat
– pipe
Nov 23 at 8:29
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You want something Lovecraftian?
Above is a lamprey. Below is a healed lamprey wound on a human. When your poor Y-folk are recovered at sea, the fishermen burn off the lampreys that seem to love human flesh. Once they heal, they are permanently covered by circular, toothy-looking scars.
answered Nov 22 at 15:34
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These lampreys would of course congregate around the exit portals waiting for vicims.
– chasly from UK
Nov 22 at 16:56
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Goddamit Nature, every request for something weird and lovecraftian comes with a "Nature did it first" answer. Nature be scary.
– Kyyshak
Nov 23 at 11:35
That’s perfect! Just add a hole in the middle of the scar.
– Robus
Nov 23 at 16:32
terrifying right ? keep away from the deeps !
– Fattie
Nov 24 at 4:13
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Presumably the nickname for these people would be 'suckers'!
– chasly from UK
Nov 24 at 12:35
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You want something Lovecraftian?
Above is a lamprey. Below is a healed lamprey wound on a human. When your poor Y-folk are recovered at sea, the fishermen burn off the lampreys that seem to love human flesh. Once they heal, they are permanently covered by circular, toothy-looking scars.
answered Nov 22 at 15:34
kingledion
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These lampreys would of course congregate around the exit portals waiting for vicims.
– chasly from UK
Nov 22 at 16:56
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Goddamit Nature, every request for something weird and lovecraftian comes with a "Nature did it first" answer. Nature be scary.
– Kyyshak
Nov 23 at 11:35
That’s perfect! Just add a hole in the middle of the scar.
– Robus
Nov 23 at 16:32
terrifying right ? keep away from the deeps !
– Fattie
Nov 24 at 4:13
3
Presumably the nickname for these people would be 'suckers'!
– chasly from UK
Nov 24 at 12:35
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You want something Lovecraftian?
Above is a lamprey. Below is a healed lamprey wound on a human. When your poor Y-folk are recovered at sea, the fishermen burn off the lampreys that seem to love human flesh. Once they heal, they are permanently covered by circular, toothy-looking scars.
answered Nov 22 at 15:34
kingledion
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You want something Lovecraftian?
Above is a lamprey. Below is a healed lamprey wound on a human. When your poor Y-folk are recovered at sea, the fishermen burn off the lampreys that seem to love human flesh. Once they heal, they are permanently covered by circular, toothy-looking scars.
answered Nov 22 at 15:34
kingledion
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answered Nov 22 at 15:34
kingledion
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answered Nov 22 at 15:34
kingledion
72.7k26244431
answered Nov 22 at 15:34
kingledion
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These lampreys would of course congregate around the exit portals waiting for vicims.
– chasly from UK
Nov 22 at 16:56
27
Goddamit Nature, every request for something weird and lovecraftian comes with a "Nature did it first" answer. Nature be scary.
– Kyyshak
Nov 23 at 11:35
That’s perfect! Just add a hole in the middle of the scar.
– Robus
Nov 23 at 16:32
terrifying right ? keep away from the deeps !
– Fattie
Nov 24 at 4:13
3
Presumably the nickname for these people would be 'suckers'!
– chasly from UK
Nov 24 at 12:35
|
show 3 more comments
16
These lampreys would of course congregate around the exit portals waiting for vicims.
– chasly from UK
Nov 22 at 16:56
27
Goddamit Nature, every request for something weird and lovecraftian comes with a "Nature did it first" answer. Nature be scary.
– Kyyshak
Nov 23 at 11:35
That’s perfect! Just add a hole in the middle of the scar.
– Robus
Nov 23 at 16:32
terrifying right ? keep away from the deeps !
– Fattie
Nov 24 at 4:13
3
Presumably the nickname for these people would be 'suckers'!
– chasly from UK
Nov 24 at 12:35
16
16
These lampreys would of course congregate around the exit portals waiting for vicims.
– chasly from UK
Nov 22 at 16:56
These lampreys would of course congregate around the exit portals waiting for vicims.
– chasly from UK
Nov 22 at 16:56
27
27
Goddamit Nature, every request for something weird and lovecraftian comes with a "Nature did it first" answer. Nature be scary.
– Kyyshak
Nov 23 at 11:35
Goddamit Nature, every request for something weird and lovecraftian comes with a "Nature did it first" answer. Nature be scary.
– Kyyshak
Nov 23 at 11:35
That’s perfect! Just add a hole in the middle of the scar.
– Robus
Nov 23 at 16:32
That’s perfect! Just add a hole in the middle of the scar.
– Robus
Nov 23 at 16:32
terrifying right ? keep away from the deeps !
– Fattie
Nov 24 at 4:13
terrifying right ? keep away from the deeps !
– Fattie
Nov 24 at 4:13
3
3
Presumably the nickname for these people would be 'suckers'!
– chasly from UK
Nov 24 at 12:35
Presumably the nickname for these people would be 'suckers'!
– chasly from UK
Nov 24 at 12:35
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Beware the monsters and their tentacles
Given that they would be long dead if they'd spent more than a few minutes in the deep dark along with my own experience spending hours sailing on salt water. No, the sea itself is not going to scar them directly in the short term. However long term exposure to salt water will cause physical damage.
Depending what the geography is like, both hard corals and barnacle covered rocks will do considerable damage to exposed skin. The sea is full of predators who might take a bite out of a passing body, but if you're looking for lovecraftian, the giant squid sucker scars that many sperm whales carry show that there's definitely something alive down there with tentacles capable of doing significant damage as you pass through. It's entirely reasonable for your people to be coming up with injuries.
You're asking for scars though. Scars are a side effect of healing, you only see scars on old injuries. The people coming out of the water should be recently injured, not carrying old scars.
answered Nov 22 at 14:32
Separatrix
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In this case, you'd also get dead people floating to the surface and even body parts.
– chasly from UK
Nov 22 at 15:50
2
@chaslyfromUK yes, if you're getting scars on the scale requested, you're also getting corpses
– Separatrix
Nov 22 at 16:40
2
Also you can expect some lucky people to escape scar-free.
– chasly from UK
Nov 22 at 16:53
12
@Seperatrix :Not is the Unknowable Horrors of the Deep are also altruistic. Perhaps they’re operating their own elite lifeguard force to pull poor unconscious humans out of a portal on the seabed and get them safely up to the surface and keep them floating face up until their human counterparts are near. Some scarring is expected but they do their best to keep it superficial.
– Joe Bloggs
Nov 22 at 17:20
1
Don't forget the teeth & hooks on those tentacle suckers! If you stick with existing ones [ reddit.com/r/natureismetal/comments/8gsk0u/… ] you get far, but you can elaborate to more body horror.
– user3445853
Nov 24 at 21:19
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Beware the monsters and their tentacles
Given that they would be long dead if they'd spent more than a few minutes in the deep dark along with my own experience spending hours sailing on salt water. No, the sea itself is not going to scar them directly in the short term. However long term exposure to salt water will cause physical damage.
Depending what the geography is like, both hard corals and barnacle covered rocks will do considerable damage to exposed skin. The sea is full of predators who might take a bite out of a passing body, but if you're looking for lovecraftian, the giant squid sucker scars that many sperm whales carry show that there's definitely something alive down there with tentacles capable of doing significant damage as you pass through. It's entirely reasonable for your people to be coming up with injuries.
You're asking for scars though. Scars are a side effect of healing, you only see scars on old injuries. The people coming out of the water should be recently injured, not carrying old scars.
answered Nov 22 at 14:32
Separatrix
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In this case, you'd also get dead people floating to the surface and even body parts.
– chasly from UK
Nov 22 at 15:50
2
@chaslyfromUK yes, if you're getting scars on the scale requested, you're also getting corpses
– Separatrix
Nov 22 at 16:40
2
Also you can expect some lucky people to escape scar-free.
– chasly from UK
Nov 22 at 16:53
12
@Seperatrix :Not is the Unknowable Horrors of the Deep are also altruistic. Perhaps they’re operating their own elite lifeguard force to pull poor unconscious humans out of a portal on the seabed and get them safely up to the surface and keep them floating face up until their human counterparts are near. Some scarring is expected but they do their best to keep it superficial.
– Joe Bloggs
Nov 22 at 17:20
1
Don't forget the teeth & hooks on those tentacle suckers! If you stick with existing ones [ reddit.com/r/natureismetal/comments/8gsk0u/… ] you get far, but you can elaborate to more body horror.
– user3445853
Nov 24 at 21:19
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Beware the monsters and their tentacles
Given that they would be long dead if they'd spent more than a few minutes in the deep dark along with my own experience spending hours sailing on salt water. No, the sea itself is not going to scar them directly in the short term. However long term exposure to salt water will cause physical damage.
Depending what the geography is like, both hard corals and barnacle covered rocks will do considerable damage to exposed skin. The sea is full of predators who might take a bite out of a passing body, but if you're looking for lovecraftian, the giant squid sucker scars that many sperm whales carry show that there's definitely something alive down there with tentacles capable of doing significant damage as you pass through. It's entirely reasonable for your people to be coming up with injuries.
You're asking for scars though. Scars are a side effect of healing, you only see scars on old injuries. The people coming out of the water should be recently injured, not carrying old scars.
answered Nov 22 at 14:32
Separatrix
76.3k30178303
Beware the monsters and their tentacles
Given that they would be long dead if they'd spent more than a few minutes in the deep dark along with my own experience spending hours sailing on salt water. No, the sea itself is not going to scar them directly in the short term. However long term exposure to salt water will cause physical damage.
Depending what the geography is like, both hard corals and barnacle covered rocks will do considerable damage to exposed skin. The sea is full of predators who might take a bite out of a passing body, but if you're looking for lovecraftian, the giant squid sucker scars that many sperm whales carry show that there's definitely something alive down there with tentacles capable of doing significant damage as you pass through. It's entirely reasonable for your people to be coming up with injuries.
You're asking for scars though. Scars are a side effect of healing, you only see scars on old injuries. The people coming out of the water should be recently injured, not carrying old scars.
answered Nov 22 at 14:32
Separatrix
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edited Nov 22 at 14:48
answered Nov 22 at 14:32
Separatrix
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answered Nov 22 at 14:32
Separatrix
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answered Nov 22 at 14:32
Separatrix
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In this case, you'd also get dead people floating to the surface and even body parts.
– chasly from UK
Nov 22 at 15:50
2
@chaslyfromUK yes, if you're getting scars on the scale requested, you're also getting corpses
– Separatrix
Nov 22 at 16:40
2
Also you can expect some lucky people to escape scar-free.
– chasly from UK
Nov 22 at 16:53
12
@Seperatrix :Not is the Unknowable Horrors of the Deep are also altruistic. Perhaps they’re operating their own elite lifeguard force to pull poor unconscious humans out of a portal on the seabed and get them safely up to the surface and keep them floating face up until their human counterparts are near. Some scarring is expected but they do their best to keep it superficial.
– Joe Bloggs
Nov 22 at 17:20
1
Don't forget the teeth & hooks on those tentacle suckers! If you stick with existing ones [ reddit.com/r/natureismetal/comments/8gsk0u/… ] you get far, but you can elaborate to more body horror.
– user3445853
Nov 24 at 21:19
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In this case, you'd also get dead people floating to the surface and even body parts.
– chasly from UK
Nov 22 at 15:50
2
@chaslyfromUK yes, if you're getting scars on the scale requested, you're also getting corpses
– Separatrix
Nov 22 at 16:40
2
Also you can expect some lucky people to escape scar-free.
– chasly from UK
Nov 22 at 16:53
12
@Seperatrix :Not is the Unknowable Horrors of the Deep are also altruistic. Perhaps they’re operating their own elite lifeguard force to pull poor unconscious humans out of a portal on the seabed and get them safely up to the surface and keep them floating face up until their human counterparts are near. Some scarring is expected but they do their best to keep it superficial.
– Joe Bloggs
Nov 22 at 17:20
1
Don't forget the teeth & hooks on those tentacle suckers! If you stick with existing ones [ reddit.com/r/natureismetal/comments/8gsk0u/… ] you get far, but you can elaborate to more body horror.
– user3445853
Nov 24 at 21:19
3
3
In this case, you'd also get dead people floating to the surface and even body parts.
– chasly from UK
Nov 22 at 15:50
In this case, you'd also get dead people floating to the surface and even body parts.
– chasly from UK
Nov 22 at 15:50
2
2
@chaslyfromUK yes, if you're getting scars on the scale requested, you're also getting corpses
– Separatrix
Nov 22 at 16:40
@chaslyfromUK yes, if you're getting scars on the scale requested, you're also getting corpses
– Separatrix
Nov 22 at 16:40
2
2
Also you can expect some lucky people to escape scar-free.
– chasly from UK
Nov 22 at 16:53
Also you can expect some lucky people to escape scar-free.
– chasly from UK
Nov 22 at 16:53
12
12
@Seperatrix :Not is the Unknowable Horrors of the Deep are also altruistic. Perhaps they’re operating their own elite lifeguard force to pull poor unconscious humans out of a portal on the seabed and get them safely up to the surface and keep them floating face up until their human counterparts are near. Some scarring is expected but they do their best to keep it superficial.
– Joe Bloggs
Nov 22 at 17:20
@Seperatrix :Not is the Unknowable Horrors of the Deep are also altruistic. Perhaps they’re operating their own elite lifeguard force to pull poor unconscious humans out of a portal on the seabed and get them safely up to the surface and keep them floating face up until their human counterparts are near. Some scarring is expected but they do their best to keep it superficial.
– Joe Bloggs
Nov 22 at 17:20
1
1
Don't forget the teeth & hooks on those tentacle suckers! If you stick with existing ones [ reddit.com/r/natureismetal/comments/8gsk0u/… ] you get far, but you can elaborate to more body horror.
– user3445853
Nov 24 at 21:19
Don't forget the teeth & hooks on those tentacle suckers! If you stick with existing ones [ reddit.com/r/natureismetal/comments/8gsk0u/… ] you get far, but you can elaborate to more body horror.
– user3445853
Nov 24 at 21:19
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Any of the regular prejudice justifications can work in this scenario. Perhaps the people of World Y have darker skin, slanted eyes or red hair. They might be taller or shorter or even have slightly different body chemistry which expresses itself as an odor.
It is likely that cause for any scars encountered during the brief/survivable rise to the surface, would also be encountered regularly by the fishermen/lifeguards who save them. That might make for an interesting statement about the true nature of prejudice since the maligning mark on people Y would be a badge of honor, assumed to be earned in noble service when worn by a person of X.
The mark might also be sourced by something on World Y or from the void between worlds which travelers must pass through when going through the portal. Since you are going for a Lovecraftian feel, leave the specific nature of these void dwellers obscure but imply (via surviving memories) that many more people attempt the portal passage than the few who survive the journey.
Mixing all these options together, imagine that fundamentally the people of world Y are asthetically different (maybe pale green skin) which means even the lucky scar free are still victimized. Then allow the void dwellers to venture out from the portal for brief periods of time where the X lifeguards encounter them and earn their badges of honor. And give the Y people memories of loved ones who they never would have left behind but who didn't make it through the portal.
Now all that is left is to choose what you want the scar to look like and then create a void dweller creature that can inflict it. Perhaps a tentacle sucker scar like @Separatrix suggested, but triangular rather than the earth-norm oval. That way you can keep with your alphabetic abbreviations. The scars could look like the capital letter A which should provide the hateful members of the X's with plenty of slurs for their vitriol.
answered Nov 22 at 15:15
Henry Taylor
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Any of the regular prejudice justifications can work in this scenario. Perhaps the people of World Y have darker skin, slanted eyes or red hair. They might be taller or shorter or even have slightly different body chemistry which expresses itself as an odor.
It is likely that cause for any scars encountered during the brief/survivable rise to the surface, would also be encountered regularly by the fishermen/lifeguards who save them. That might make for an interesting statement about the true nature of prejudice since the maligning mark on people Y would be a badge of honor, assumed to be earned in noble service when worn by a person of X.
The mark might also be sourced by something on World Y or from the void between worlds which travelers must pass through when going through the portal. Since you are going for a Lovecraftian feel, leave the specific nature of these void dwellers obscure but imply (via surviving memories) that many more people attempt the portal passage than the few who survive the journey.
Mixing all these options together, imagine that fundamentally the people of world Y are asthetically different (maybe pale green skin) which means even the lucky scar free are still victimized. Then allow the void dwellers to venture out from the portal for brief periods of time where the X lifeguards encounter them and earn their badges of honor. And give the Y people memories of loved ones who they never would have left behind but who didn't make it through the portal.
Now all that is left is to choose what you want the scar to look like and then create a void dweller creature that can inflict it. Perhaps a tentacle sucker scar like @Separatrix suggested, but triangular rather than the earth-norm oval. That way you can keep with your alphabetic abbreviations. The scars could look like the capital letter A which should provide the hateful members of the X's with plenty of slurs for their vitriol.
answered Nov 22 at 15:15
Henry Taylor
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Any of the regular prejudice justifications can work in this scenario. Perhaps the people of World Y have darker skin, slanted eyes or red hair. They might be taller or shorter or even have slightly different body chemistry which expresses itself as an odor.
It is likely that cause for any scars encountered during the brief/survivable rise to the surface, would also be encountered regularly by the fishermen/lifeguards who save them. That might make for an interesting statement about the true nature of prejudice since the maligning mark on people Y would be a badge of honor, assumed to be earned in noble service when worn by a person of X.
The mark might also be sourced by something on World Y or from the void between worlds which travelers must pass through when going through the portal. Since you are going for a Lovecraftian feel, leave the specific nature of these void dwellers obscure but imply (via surviving memories) that many more people attempt the portal passage than the few who survive the journey.
Mixing all these options together, imagine that fundamentally the people of world Y are asthetically different (maybe pale green skin) which means even the lucky scar free are still victimized. Then allow the void dwellers to venture out from the portal for brief periods of time where the X lifeguards encounter them and earn their badges of honor. And give the Y people memories of loved ones who they never would have left behind but who didn't make it through the portal.
Now all that is left is to choose what you want the scar to look like and then create a void dweller creature that can inflict it. Perhaps a tentacle sucker scar like @Separatrix suggested, but triangular rather than the earth-norm oval. That way you can keep with your alphabetic abbreviations. The scars could look like the capital letter A which should provide the hateful members of the X's with plenty of slurs for their vitriol.
answered Nov 22 at 15:15
Henry Taylor
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Any of the regular prejudice justifications can work in this scenario. Perhaps the people of World Y have darker skin, slanted eyes or red hair. They might be taller or shorter or even have slightly different body chemistry which expresses itself as an odor.
It is likely that cause for any scars encountered during the brief/survivable rise to the surface, would also be encountered regularly by the fishermen/lifeguards who save them. That might make for an interesting statement about the true nature of prejudice since the maligning mark on people Y would be a badge of honor, assumed to be earned in noble service when worn by a person of X.
The mark might also be sourced by something on World Y or from the void between worlds which travelers must pass through when going through the portal. Since you are going for a Lovecraftian feel, leave the specific nature of these void dwellers obscure but imply (via surviving memories) that many more people attempt the portal passage than the few who survive the journey.
Mixing all these options together, imagine that fundamentally the people of world Y are asthetically different (maybe pale green skin) which means even the lucky scar free are still victimized. Then allow the void dwellers to venture out from the portal for brief periods of time where the X lifeguards encounter them and earn their badges of honor. And give the Y people memories of loved ones who they never would have left behind but who didn't make it through the portal.
Now all that is left is to choose what you want the scar to look like and then create a void dweller creature that can inflict it. Perhaps a tentacle sucker scar like @Separatrix suggested, but triangular rather than the earth-norm oval. That way you can keep with your alphabetic abbreviations. The scars could look like the capital letter A which should provide the hateful members of the X's with plenty of slurs for their vitriol.
answered Nov 22 at 15:15
Henry Taylor
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edited Nov 22 at 15:32
answered Nov 22 at 15:15
Henry Taylor
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answered Nov 22 at 15:15
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answered Nov 22 at 15:15
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The Y people are exiles. They have committed some criminal act in their home world where execution is banned and imprisonment is very expensive. They are not necessarily considered bad in X - it depends on the crime. Maybe they have refused to fight in the army.
To prevent them ever returning through the portal, they are tattooed on their forehead with the legend "Exile" in their own language. The X language is pictographic and the word for exile is a picture of a beetle. The Ys are therefore nicknamed 'beetles' by the Xs.
answered Nov 22 at 18:50
chasly from UK
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Or, World Y believe they execute those people, when in reality they send them to world X.
– Wilson
Nov 23 at 14:29
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You could also replace "exile" with "ritual sacrifice to appease the portal-god-thing".
– NotThatGuy
Nov 25 at 21:17
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That's interesting. I didn't really reveal the totality of the nature of the passage, and this wouldn't completely work but I will keep something like this in mind, thanks
– Gabriel Romero Ricardo
Nov 28 at 17:30
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The Y people are exiles. They have committed some criminal act in their home world where execution is banned and imprisonment is very expensive. They are not necessarily considered bad in X - it depends on the crime. Maybe they have refused to fight in the army.
To prevent them ever returning through the portal, they are tattooed on their forehead with the legend "Exile" in their own language. The X language is pictographic and the word for exile is a picture of a beetle. The Ys are therefore nicknamed 'beetles' by the Xs.
answered Nov 22 at 18:50
chasly from UK
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Or, World Y believe they execute those people, when in reality they send them to world X.
– Wilson
Nov 23 at 14:29
2
You could also replace "exile" with "ritual sacrifice to appease the portal-god-thing".
– NotThatGuy
Nov 25 at 21:17
1
That's interesting. I didn't really reveal the totality of the nature of the passage, and this wouldn't completely work but I will keep something like this in mind, thanks
– Gabriel Romero Ricardo
Nov 28 at 17:30
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The Y people are exiles. They have committed some criminal act in their home world where execution is banned and imprisonment is very expensive. They are not necessarily considered bad in X - it depends on the crime. Maybe they have refused to fight in the army.
To prevent them ever returning through the portal, they are tattooed on their forehead with the legend "Exile" in their own language. The X language is pictographic and the word for exile is a picture of a beetle. The Ys are therefore nicknamed 'beetles' by the Xs.
answered Nov 22 at 18:50
chasly from UK
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The Y people are exiles. They have committed some criminal act in their home world where execution is banned and imprisonment is very expensive. They are not necessarily considered bad in X - it depends on the crime. Maybe they have refused to fight in the army.
To prevent them ever returning through the portal, they are tattooed on their forehead with the legend "Exile" in their own language. The X language is pictographic and the word for exile is a picture of a beetle. The Ys are therefore nicknamed 'beetles' by the Xs.
answered Nov 22 at 18:50
chasly from UK
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answered Nov 22 at 18:50
chasly from UK
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answered Nov 22 at 18:50
chasly from UK
11.8k351108
answered Nov 22 at 18:50
chasly from UK
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Or, World Y believe they execute those people, when in reality they send them to world X.
– Wilson
Nov 23 at 14:29
2
You could also replace "exile" with "ritual sacrifice to appease the portal-god-thing".
– NotThatGuy
Nov 25 at 21:17
1
That's interesting. I didn't really reveal the totality of the nature of the passage, and this wouldn't completely work but I will keep something like this in mind, thanks
– Gabriel Romero Ricardo
Nov 28 at 17:30
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1
Or, World Y believe they execute those people, when in reality they send them to world X.
– Wilson
Nov 23 at 14:29
2
You could also replace "exile" with "ritual sacrifice to appease the portal-god-thing".
– NotThatGuy
Nov 25 at 21:17
1
That's interesting. I didn't really reveal the totality of the nature of the passage, and this wouldn't completely work but I will keep something like this in mind, thanks
– Gabriel Romero Ricardo
Nov 28 at 17:30
1
1
Or, World Y believe they execute those people, when in reality they send them to world X.
– Wilson
Nov 23 at 14:29
Or, World Y believe they execute those people, when in reality they send them to world X.
– Wilson
Nov 23 at 14:29
2
2
You could also replace "exile" with "ritual sacrifice to appease the portal-god-thing".
– NotThatGuy
Nov 25 at 21:17
You could also replace "exile" with "ritual sacrifice to appease the portal-god-thing".
– NotThatGuy
Nov 25 at 21:17
1
1
That's interesting. I didn't really reveal the totality of the nature of the passage, and this wouldn't completely work but I will keep something like this in mind, thanks
– Gabriel Romero Ricardo
Nov 28 at 17:30
That's interesting. I didn't really reveal the totality of the nature of the passage, and this wouldn't completely work but I will keep something like this in mind, thanks
– Gabriel Romero Ricardo
Nov 28 at 17:30
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Depending on the story, these Y people could have the general look of drowned corpses at sea: bleached skin, slightly bleached hair, a general, incurable, swelling of the abdomen, circled eyes, cold to the touch, a watery gaze, an oily mucuous layer at the mouth. You could add random drooling as a result of the water still in their body, and the inability to perceive flavors in the same way X people do due to having been with salty water in their mouth for far too long. Also, the salt left in their ear channel after drying might give them a natural distortion to hearing if not a partial disability.
While these are not literal scars, they are marks that are distinctive enough to be used for discrimination.
answered Nov 23 at 9:18
NofP
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This is good. All of these characteristics together might be a little extreme, but some of the more subtle ones like the bleached hair and the flavour disability might be good. Thanks
– Gabriel Romero Ricardo
Nov 28 at 17:33
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Depending on the story, these Y people could have the general look of drowned corpses at sea: bleached skin, slightly bleached hair, a general, incurable, swelling of the abdomen, circled eyes, cold to the touch, a watery gaze, an oily mucuous layer at the mouth. You could add random drooling as a result of the water still in their body, and the inability to perceive flavors in the same way X people do due to having been with salty water in their mouth for far too long. Also, the salt left in their ear channel after drying might give them a natural distortion to hearing if not a partial disability.
While these are not literal scars, they are marks that are distinctive enough to be used for discrimination.
answered Nov 23 at 9:18
NofP
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This is good. All of these characteristics together might be a little extreme, but some of the more subtle ones like the bleached hair and the flavour disability might be good. Thanks
– Gabriel Romero Ricardo
Nov 28 at 17:33
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Depending on the story, these Y people could have the general look of drowned corpses at sea: bleached skin, slightly bleached hair, a general, incurable, swelling of the abdomen, circled eyes, cold to the touch, a watery gaze, an oily mucuous layer at the mouth. You could add random drooling as a result of the water still in their body, and the inability to perceive flavors in the same way X people do due to having been with salty water in their mouth for far too long. Also, the salt left in their ear channel after drying might give them a natural distortion to hearing if not a partial disability.
While these are not literal scars, they are marks that are distinctive enough to be used for discrimination.
answered Nov 23 at 9:18
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Depending on the story, these Y people could have the general look of drowned corpses at sea: bleached skin, slightly bleached hair, a general, incurable, swelling of the abdomen, circled eyes, cold to the touch, a watery gaze, an oily mucuous layer at the mouth. You could add random drooling as a result of the water still in their body, and the inability to perceive flavors in the same way X people do due to having been with salty water in their mouth for far too long. Also, the salt left in their ear channel after drying might give them a natural distortion to hearing if not a partial disability.
While these are not literal scars, they are marks that are distinctive enough to be used for discrimination.
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This is good. All of these characteristics together might be a little extreme, but some of the more subtle ones like the bleached hair and the flavour disability might be good. Thanks
– Gabriel Romero Ricardo
Nov 28 at 17:33
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This is good. All of these characteristics together might be a little extreme, but some of the more subtle ones like the bleached hair and the flavour disability might be good. Thanks
– Gabriel Romero Ricardo
Nov 28 at 17:33
This is good. All of these characteristics together might be a little extreme, but some of the more subtle ones like the bleached hair and the flavour disability might be good. Thanks
– Gabriel Romero Ricardo
Nov 28 at 17:33
This is good. All of these characteristics together might be a little extreme, but some of the more subtle ones like the bleached hair and the flavour disability might be good. Thanks
– Gabriel Romero Ricardo
Nov 28 at 17:33
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Concerning your interrogation on jellyfish scars
These scars can be pretty impressive and can last for a very long time : At least on certain part of the body, from my personal experience. I know this subject as I got burned by one of them 20 years ago and I still have the mark on my lips ! yes I took the jellyfish straight in my face... !
Your jellyfishes can be regular ones and not necessarily deadly ones. If they are numerous enough, the probability for Y people to get marks on lips for life is pretty high and could become their distinctive sign.
I can already hear the jokes:
"Jelly Kisser..."
Picture of the leg of a 10 year-old girl who got burned by a box jellyfish if you want severe burnings :
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Concerning your interrogation on jellyfish scars
These scars can be pretty impressive and can last for a very long time : At least on certain part of the body, from my personal experience. I know this subject as I got burned by one of them 20 years ago and I still have the mark on my lips ! yes I took the jellyfish straight in my face... !
Your jellyfishes can be regular ones and not necessarily deadly ones. If they are numerous enough, the probability for Y people to get marks on lips for life is pretty high and could become their distinctive sign.
I can already hear the jokes:
"Jelly Kisser..."
Picture of the leg of a 10 year-old girl who got burned by a box jellyfish if you want severe burnings :
Picture link
answered Nov 23 at 13:19
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Concerning your interrogation on jellyfish scars
These scars can be pretty impressive and can last for a very long time : At least on certain part of the body, from my personal experience. I know this subject as I got burned by one of them 20 years ago and I still have the mark on my lips ! yes I took the jellyfish straight in my face... !
Your jellyfishes can be regular ones and not necessarily deadly ones. If they are numerous enough, the probability for Y people to get marks on lips for life is pretty high and could become their distinctive sign.
I can already hear the jokes:
"Jelly Kisser..."
Picture of the leg of a 10 year-old girl who got burned by a box jellyfish if you want severe burnings :
Picture link
answered Nov 23 at 13:19
Freedomjail
1,12219
Concerning your interrogation on jellyfish scars
These scars can be pretty impressive and can last for a very long time : At least on certain part of the body, from my personal experience. I know this subject as I got burned by one of them 20 years ago and I still have the mark on my lips ! yes I took the jellyfish straight in my face... !
Your jellyfishes can be regular ones and not necessarily deadly ones. If they are numerous enough, the probability for Y people to get marks on lips for life is pretty high and could become their distinctive sign.
I can already hear the jokes:
"Jelly Kisser..."
Picture of the leg of a 10 year-old girl who got burned by a box jellyfish if you want severe burnings :
Picture link
answered Nov 23 at 13:19
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May I introduce you to Ross Edgley. He recently swam all the way around Britain in 157 days not touching land until he completed his target.
Along the way his hands and feet would have shrivelled and essentially gotten trench foot. His tongue was exposed to so much salt water that it started drying out and chunks fell out, there are videos of him pulling pieces of his tongue off! And he had chafing around his wetsuit...a lot of chafing. So much so that people started calling him 'rhino neck'.
I would hazard a guess that some mechanism in your complex saltwater portal could have a side effect of prolonged salt water exposure (even if they are only exposed for a short time, they appear to have had prolonged exposure). I know your characters arrive naked, but they could have initially had clothing/jewellary to provide some sort of abrasive chaffing action that would result in similar scar like features as the photo below. Maybe, something that falls off during the final stage of the portalling.
If you are wanting to be able to identify the same scar on each Character Y, say around the neck, then give them something to wear around that limb that makes the portalling succeed (a 'portal key' of some sort). Like a 'lucky charm'/'religious icon'/'fashion item'/'hospital tag'/'prisoner id' etc that they may or may not be aware of the full intended use of.
answered Nov 24 at 14:07
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May I introduce you to Ross Edgley. He recently swam all the way around Britain in 157 days not touching land until he completed his target.
Along the way his hands and feet would have shrivelled and essentially gotten trench foot. His tongue was exposed to so much salt water that it started drying out and chunks fell out, there are videos of him pulling pieces of his tongue off! And he had chafing around his wetsuit...a lot of chafing. So much so that people started calling him 'rhino neck'.
I would hazard a guess that some mechanism in your complex saltwater portal could have a side effect of prolonged salt water exposure (even if they are only exposed for a short time, they appear to have had prolonged exposure). I know your characters arrive naked, but they could have initially had clothing/jewellary to provide some sort of abrasive chaffing action that would result in similar scar like features as the photo below. Maybe, something that falls off during the final stage of the portalling.
If you are wanting to be able to identify the same scar on each Character Y, say around the neck, then give them something to wear around that limb that makes the portalling succeed (a 'portal key' of some sort). Like a 'lucky charm'/'religious icon'/'fashion item'/'hospital tag'/'prisoner id' etc that they may or may not be aware of the full intended use of.
answered Nov 24 at 14:07
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May I introduce you to Ross Edgley. He recently swam all the way around Britain in 157 days not touching land until he completed his target.
Along the way his hands and feet would have shrivelled and essentially gotten trench foot. His tongue was exposed to so much salt water that it started drying out and chunks fell out, there are videos of him pulling pieces of his tongue off! And he had chafing around his wetsuit...a lot of chafing. So much so that people started calling him 'rhino neck'.
I would hazard a guess that some mechanism in your complex saltwater portal could have a side effect of prolonged salt water exposure (even if they are only exposed for a short time, they appear to have had prolonged exposure). I know your characters arrive naked, but they could have initially had clothing/jewellary to provide some sort of abrasive chaffing action that would result in similar scar like features as the photo below. Maybe, something that falls off during the final stage of the portalling.
If you are wanting to be able to identify the same scar on each Character Y, say around the neck, then give them something to wear around that limb that makes the portalling succeed (a 'portal key' of some sort). Like a 'lucky charm'/'religious icon'/'fashion item'/'hospital tag'/'prisoner id' etc that they may or may not be aware of the full intended use of.
answered Nov 24 at 14:07
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May I introduce you to Ross Edgley. He recently swam all the way around Britain in 157 days not touching land until he completed his target.
Along the way his hands and feet would have shrivelled and essentially gotten trench foot. His tongue was exposed to so much salt water that it started drying out and chunks fell out, there are videos of him pulling pieces of his tongue off! And he had chafing around his wetsuit...a lot of chafing. So much so that people started calling him 'rhino neck'.
I would hazard a guess that some mechanism in your complex saltwater portal could have a side effect of prolonged salt water exposure (even if they are only exposed for a short time, they appear to have had prolonged exposure). I know your characters arrive naked, but they could have initially had clothing/jewellary to provide some sort of abrasive chaffing action that would result in similar scar like features as the photo below. Maybe, something that falls off during the final stage of the portalling.
If you are wanting to be able to identify the same scar on each Character Y, say around the neck, then give them something to wear around that limb that makes the portalling succeed (a 'portal key' of some sort). Like a 'lucky charm'/'religious icon'/'fashion item'/'hospital tag'/'prisoner id' etc that they may or may not be aware of the full intended use of.
answered Nov 24 at 14:07
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Just make them pale.
Xs sound like they're outdoor a lot, on top of that I pictured them in kinda the carribean or so, meaning that they would have a rather brownish, at least well tanned skin.
Y however come from the depths, maybe Place Y is also less sunny (or even in a cave, who knows) so they can't even become tan.
That would leave them in an unhealthy pale (maybe they can become "normal" [fair-skinned European by complexity] after a while, but will never reach a skin tone that is healthy in Xs environment).
This would make up for a ton of cheap and quick insults.
If you really wanna insult with fish: fish have white flesh, so you can start there
answered Nov 23 at 10:28
Hobbamok
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Ah, racial slurs: Always a winner if you're looking for material on prejudices/bigotry.
– Agi Hammerthief
Nov 23 at 10:58
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Just make them pale.
Xs sound like they're outdoor a lot, on top of that I pictured them in kinda the carribean or so, meaning that they would have a rather brownish, at least well tanned skin.
Y however come from the depths, maybe Place Y is also less sunny (or even in a cave, who knows) so they can't even become tan.
That would leave them in an unhealthy pale (maybe they can become "normal" [fair-skinned European by complexity] after a while, but will never reach a skin tone that is healthy in Xs environment).
This would make up for a ton of cheap and quick insults.
If you really wanna insult with fish: fish have white flesh, so you can start there
answered Nov 23 at 10:28
Hobbamok
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Ah, racial slurs: Always a winner if you're looking for material on prejudices/bigotry.
– Agi Hammerthief
Nov 23 at 10:58
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Just make them pale.
Xs sound like they're outdoor a lot, on top of that I pictured them in kinda the carribean or so, meaning that they would have a rather brownish, at least well tanned skin.
Y however come from the depths, maybe Place Y is also less sunny (or even in a cave, who knows) so they can't even become tan.
That would leave them in an unhealthy pale (maybe they can become "normal" [fair-skinned European by complexity] after a while, but will never reach a skin tone that is healthy in Xs environment).
This would make up for a ton of cheap and quick insults.
If you really wanna insult with fish: fish have white flesh, so you can start there
answered Nov 23 at 10:28
Hobbamok
1,06229
Just make them pale.
Xs sound like they're outdoor a lot, on top of that I pictured them in kinda the carribean or so, meaning that they would have a rather brownish, at least well tanned skin.
Y however come from the depths, maybe Place Y is also less sunny (or even in a cave, who knows) so they can't even become tan.
That would leave them in an unhealthy pale (maybe they can become "normal" [fair-skinned European by complexity] after a while, but will never reach a skin tone that is healthy in Xs environment).
This would make up for a ton of cheap and quick insults.
If you really wanna insult with fish: fish have white flesh, so you can start there
answered Nov 23 at 10:28
Hobbamok
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answered Nov 23 at 10:28
Hobbamok
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Hobbamok
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answered Nov 23 at 10:28
Hobbamok
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Ah, racial slurs: Always a winner if you're looking for material on prejudices/bigotry.
– Agi Hammerthief
Nov 23 at 10:58
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Ah, racial slurs: Always a winner if you're looking for material on prejudices/bigotry.
– Agi Hammerthief
Nov 23 at 10:58
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3
Ah, racial slurs: Always a winner if you're looking for material on prejudices/bigotry.
– Agi Hammerthief
Nov 23 at 10:58
Ah, racial slurs: Always a winner if you're looking for material on prejudices/bigotry.
– Agi Hammerthief
Nov 23 at 10:58
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Since the people of Y have to float through deep water to get to X, one of their adaptations can be visible gills on their necks. Otherwise how can they survive without oxygen? The gills can be natural (i.e. will be visible on future generations of Y children born on world X) or can be the result of advanced surgical techniques on world Y. You can create some great story lines about discrimination, redemption, and conflicts between black, white, brown, and transgender people with gills. Perhaps a brown female Aqua Force commando can lead a SWAT team to battle the underwater terrorists of a transgender separatist YExit warlord?
answered Nov 22 at 16:41
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Since the people of Y have to float through deep water to get to X, one of their adaptations can be visible gills on their necks. Otherwise how can they survive without oxygen? The gills can be natural (i.e. will be visible on future generations of Y children born on world X) or can be the result of advanced surgical techniques on world Y. You can create some great story lines about discrimination, redemption, and conflicts between black, white, brown, and transgender people with gills. Perhaps a brown female Aqua Force commando can lead a SWAT team to battle the underwater terrorists of a transgender separatist YExit warlord?
answered Nov 22 at 16:41
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Since the people of Y have to float through deep water to get to X, one of their adaptations can be visible gills on their necks. Otherwise how can they survive without oxygen? The gills can be natural (i.e. will be visible on future generations of Y children born on world X) or can be the result of advanced surgical techniques on world Y. You can create some great story lines about discrimination, redemption, and conflicts between black, white, brown, and transgender people with gills. Perhaps a brown female Aqua Force commando can lead a SWAT team to battle the underwater terrorists of a transgender separatist YExit warlord?
answered Nov 22 at 16:41
hyperion4
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Since the people of Y have to float through deep water to get to X, one of their adaptations can be visible gills on their necks. Otherwise how can they survive without oxygen? The gills can be natural (i.e. will be visible on future generations of Y children born on world X) or can be the result of advanced surgical techniques on world Y. You can create some great story lines about discrimination, redemption, and conflicts between black, white, brown, and transgender people with gills. Perhaps a brown female Aqua Force commando can lead a SWAT team to battle the underwater terrorists of a transgender separatist YExit warlord?
answered Nov 22 at 16:41
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answered Nov 22 at 16:41
hyperion4
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In order to survive the journey from world Y to world X (= being submerged in the water without oxygen for an extended period of time), the Y people could have to enter a symbiosis with another organism which provides their host with oxygen. This other organism would latch onto its host's mouth and/or nose - think facehuggers - and die shortly after exiting the water leaving clearly visible facial scars.
answered Nov 24 at 12:30
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This is definetely an underrated response. I think this could add a sublte realistic touch to the portal because, indeed, they need some aid to survive the floating up. I like the lampreys idea + this one + some huge mysterious monster for some special plot event that kill the portal travellers. Thanks!
– Gabriel Romero Ricardo
Nov 28 at 17:36
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In order to survive the journey from world Y to world X (= being submerged in the water without oxygen for an extended period of time), the Y people could have to enter a symbiosis with another organism which provides their host with oxygen. This other organism would latch onto its host's mouth and/or nose - think facehuggers - and die shortly after exiting the water leaving clearly visible facial scars.
answered Nov 24 at 12:30
Drahtbart
111
This is definetely an underrated response. I think this could add a sublte realistic touch to the portal because, indeed, they need some aid to survive the floating up. I like the lampreys idea + this one + some huge mysterious monster for some special plot event that kill the portal travellers. Thanks!
– Gabriel Romero Ricardo
Nov 28 at 17:36
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In order to survive the journey from world Y to world X (= being submerged in the water without oxygen for an extended period of time), the Y people could have to enter a symbiosis with another organism which provides their host with oxygen. This other organism would latch onto its host's mouth and/or nose - think facehuggers - and die shortly after exiting the water leaving clearly visible facial scars.
answered Nov 24 at 12:30
Drahtbart
111
In order to survive the journey from world Y to world X (= being submerged in the water without oxygen for an extended period of time), the Y people could have to enter a symbiosis with another organism which provides their host with oxygen. This other organism would latch onto its host's mouth and/or nose - think facehuggers - and die shortly after exiting the water leaving clearly visible facial scars.
answered Nov 24 at 12:30
Drahtbart
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answered Nov 24 at 12:30
Drahtbart
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answered Nov 24 at 12:30
Drahtbart
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answered Nov 24 at 12:30
Drahtbart
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111
This is definetely an underrated response. I think this could add a sublte realistic touch to the portal because, indeed, they need some aid to survive the floating up. I like the lampreys idea + this one + some huge mysterious monster for some special plot event that kill the portal travellers. Thanks!
– Gabriel Romero Ricardo
Nov 28 at 17:36
add a comment |
This is definetely an underrated response. I think this could add a sublte realistic touch to the portal because, indeed, they need some aid to survive the floating up. I like the lampreys idea + this one + some huge mysterious monster for some special plot event that kill the portal travellers. Thanks!
– Gabriel Romero Ricardo
Nov 28 at 17:36
This is definetely an underrated response. I think this could add a sublte realistic touch to the portal because, indeed, they need some aid to survive the floating up. I like the lampreys idea + this one + some huge mysterious monster for some special plot event that kill the portal travellers. Thanks!
– Gabriel Romero Ricardo
Nov 28 at 17:36
This is definetely an underrated response. I think this could add a sublte realistic touch to the portal because, indeed, they need some aid to survive the floating up. I like the lampreys idea + this one + some huge mysterious monster for some special plot event that kill the portal travellers. Thanks!
– Gabriel Romero Ricardo
Nov 28 at 17:36
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It is, in fact, possible to cut something with jet of water.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_jet_cutter
Have those people covered head-to-toe with webbing of scars from strange, unnatural tides.
answered Nov 23 at 10:37
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It is, in fact, possible to cut something with jet of water.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_jet_cutter
Have those people covered head-to-toe with webbing of scars from strange, unnatural tides.
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It is, in fact, possible to cut something with jet of water.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_jet_cutter
Have those people covered head-to-toe with webbing of scars from strange, unnatural tides.
answered Nov 23 at 10:37
Darth Hunterix
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It is, in fact, possible to cut something with jet of water.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_jet_cutter
Have those people covered head-to-toe with webbing of scars from strange, unnatural tides.
answered Nov 23 at 10:37
Darth Hunterix
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answered Nov 23 at 10:37
Darth Hunterix
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Darth Hunterix
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Well ... 'pure' water drains the skin. Maybe they look like old grandmas (a bit extreme) until they refill their skin.
The following insult is something like:
"Is he/she drug addicted? [please enter an insulting joke against drug addicted]"
or:
"he/she looks like a grandma can you tell me how have my skin so carefully folded like yours?"
I'm not quite good with insulting people ... Is this a strengh of myself?
Hope this helps :)
answered Nov 22 at 15:10
Jannis
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Water drains the skin.. wat
– pipe
Nov 23 at 8:29
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Well ... 'pure' water drains the skin. Maybe they look like old grandmas (a bit extreme) until they refill their skin.
The following insult is something like:
"Is he/she drug addicted? [please enter an insulting joke against drug addicted]"
or:
"he/she looks like a grandma can you tell me how have my skin so carefully folded like yours?"
I'm not quite good with insulting people ... Is this a strengh of myself?
Hope this helps :)
answered Nov 22 at 15:10
Jannis
1,06816
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Water drains the skin.. wat
– pipe
Nov 23 at 8:29
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Well ... 'pure' water drains the skin. Maybe they look like old grandmas (a bit extreme) until they refill their skin.
The following insult is something like:
"Is he/she drug addicted? [please enter an insulting joke against drug addicted]"
or:
"he/she looks like a grandma can you tell me how have my skin so carefully folded like yours?"
I'm not quite good with insulting people ... Is this a strengh of myself?
Hope this helps :)
answered Nov 22 at 15:10
Jannis
1,06816
Well ... 'pure' water drains the skin. Maybe they look like old grandmas (a bit extreme) until they refill their skin.
The following insult is something like:
"Is he/she drug addicted? [please enter an insulting joke against drug addicted]"
or:
"he/she looks like a grandma can you tell me how have my skin so carefully folded like yours?"
I'm not quite good with insulting people ... Is this a strengh of myself?
Hope this helps :)
answered Nov 22 at 15:10
Jannis
1,06816
answered Nov 22 at 15:10
Jannis
1,06816
answered Nov 22 at 15:10
Jannis
1,06816
answered Nov 22 at 15:10
Jannis
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1,06816
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Water drains the skin.. wat
– pipe
Nov 23 at 8:29
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Water drains the skin.. wat
– pipe
Nov 23 at 8:29
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3
Water drains the skin.. wat
– pipe
Nov 23 at 8:29
Water drains the skin.. wat
– pipe
Nov 23 at 8:29
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can you make the transport mechanism itself create the scar?
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"Most of the story revolves around the [...] cultural differences." How would there be cultural differences between the X-Men and the Y-Men if the majority of the Y-Men don't remember anything and those who do only remember their place of origin?
– Suthek
Nov 23 at 9:15
By the way, your question started out alright, but the edit at the end makes it opinion-based, asking for story ideas, and altogether off topic. You might consider rephrasing the last paragraph a bit.
– Mr Lister
Nov 23 at 11:13
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I think the edit would be better as a self-answer to your own question.
– haykam
Nov 23 at 16:48
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@Suthek: Severe cases of amnesia usually affect aspect some aspects of memory but not others — e.g. losing episodic memory but keeping procedural memory. A sufferer may have forgotten their name and events from their own life, but they may remember how to drive a car, and how to speak the language(s) they spoke before, and that dogs are friends but cats are pests, and that you must give thanks to the moon goddess before starting your meal…
– Peter LeFanu Lumsdaine
Nov 24 at 12:45