Subordinating conjunctions “who” & “when” as subject clause?












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I understand who and when can be used as adjective clause for sure like the following sentences.




The time when is good for us to meet has not been decided.



The person who is qualified for the job will be appointed soon.




However, can subordinating conjunctions who and when be used as subject clause?



For example,




(1) [When is good for us to meet] has not been decided.

OR

(2) [Who is qualified for the job] will be appointed soon.




Are the two sentences grammatically correct?






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  • Add the -ever maybe. "Whoever is qualified for the job will be appointed."
    – Kris
    8 hours ago










  • Generally, the "dummy it" comes in in such cases: "It has not been decided (as to) when is good for us to meet."
    – Kris
    8 hours ago










  • See also, English Language Learners
    – Kris
    7 hours ago






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    The bracketed elements in 1) and (2) are not clauses. They are NPs in fused relative constructions. But you need "whenever" and "whoever", as in "Whenever is good for us to meet" / "Whoever is qualified for the job", where the -ever phrase marks the NPs as non-referential.
    – BillJ
    7 hours ago










  • ... and who and where are not subordinating conjunctions.
    – John Lawler
    2 hours ago
















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I understand who and when can be used as adjective clause for sure like the following sentences.




The time when is good for us to meet has not been decided.



The person who is qualified for the job will be appointed soon.




However, can subordinating conjunctions who and when be used as subject clause?



For example,




(1) [When is good for us to meet] has not been decided.

OR

(2) [Who is qualified for the job] will be appointed soon.




Are the two sentences grammatically correct?






grammaticality conjunctions clauses when who







share|improve this question
























  • Add the -ever maybe. "Whoever is qualified for the job will be appointed."
    – Kris
    8 hours ago










  • Generally, the "dummy it" comes in in such cases: "It has not been decided (as to) when is good for us to meet."
    – Kris
    8 hours ago










  • See also, English Language Learners
    – Kris
    7 hours ago






  • 1




    The bracketed elements in 1) and (2) are not clauses. They are NPs in fused relative constructions. But you need "whenever" and "whoever", as in "Whenever is good for us to meet" / "Whoever is qualified for the job", where the -ever phrase marks the NPs as non-referential.
    – BillJ
    7 hours ago










  • ... and who and where are not subordinating conjunctions.
    – John Lawler
    2 hours ago














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I understand who and when can be used as adjective clause for sure like the following sentences.




The time when is good for us to meet has not been decided.



The person who is qualified for the job will be appointed soon.




However, can subordinating conjunctions who and when be used as subject clause?



For example,




(1) [When is good for us to meet] has not been decided.

OR

(2) [Who is qualified for the job] will be appointed soon.




Are the two sentences grammatically correct?






grammaticality conjunctions clauses when who







share|improve this question















I understand who and when can be used as adjective clause for sure like the following sentences.




The time when is good for us to meet has not been decided.



The person who is qualified for the job will be appointed soon.




However, can subordinating conjunctions who and when be used as subject clause?



For example,




(1) [When is good for us to meet] has not been decided.

OR

(2) [Who is qualified for the job] will be appointed soon.




Are the two sentences grammatically correct?






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  • Add the -ever maybe. "Whoever is qualified for the job will be appointed."
    – Kris
    8 hours ago










  • Generally, the "dummy it" comes in in such cases: "It has not been decided (as to) when is good for us to meet."
    – Kris
    8 hours ago










  • See also, English Language Learners
    – Kris
    7 hours ago






  • 1




    The bracketed elements in 1) and (2) are not clauses. They are NPs in fused relative constructions. But you need "whenever" and "whoever", as in "Whenever is good for us to meet" / "Whoever is qualified for the job", where the -ever phrase marks the NPs as non-referential.
    – BillJ
    7 hours ago










  • ... and who and where are not subordinating conjunctions.
    – John Lawler
    2 hours ago


















  • Add the -ever maybe. "Whoever is qualified for the job will be appointed."
    – Kris
    8 hours ago










  • Generally, the "dummy it" comes in in such cases: "It has not been decided (as to) when is good for us to meet."
    – Kris
    8 hours ago










  • See also, English Language Learners
    – Kris
    7 hours ago






  • 1




    The bracketed elements in 1) and (2) are not clauses. They are NPs in fused relative constructions. But you need "whenever" and "whoever", as in "Whenever is good for us to meet" / "Whoever is qualified for the job", where the -ever phrase marks the NPs as non-referential.
    – BillJ
    7 hours ago










  • ... and who and where are not subordinating conjunctions.
    – John Lawler
    2 hours ago
















Add the -ever maybe. "Whoever is qualified for the job will be appointed."
– Kris
8 hours ago




Add the -ever maybe. "Whoever is qualified for the job will be appointed."
– Kris
8 hours ago












Generally, the "dummy it" comes in in such cases: "It has not been decided (as to) when is good for us to meet."
– Kris
8 hours ago




Generally, the "dummy it" comes in in such cases: "It has not been decided (as to) when is good for us to meet."
– Kris
8 hours ago












See also, English Language Learners
– Kris
7 hours ago




See also, English Language Learners
– Kris
7 hours ago




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The bracketed elements in 1) and (2) are not clauses. They are NPs in fused relative constructions. But you need "whenever" and "whoever", as in "Whenever is good for us to meet" / "Whoever is qualified for the job", where the -ever phrase marks the NPs as non-referential.
– BillJ
7 hours ago




The bracketed elements in 1) and (2) are not clauses. They are NPs in fused relative constructions. But you need "whenever" and "whoever", as in "Whenever is good for us to meet" / "Whoever is qualified for the job", where the -ever phrase marks the NPs as non-referential.
– BillJ
7 hours ago












... and who and where are not subordinating conjunctions.
– John Lawler
2 hours ago




... and who and where are not subordinating conjunctions.
– John Lawler
2 hours ago















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