Single word for old and many-times-seen content
Using old
as a starting word, Urban Dictionary suggested:
- Obsolete
- Outdated
- Archaic
- Ancient
- Retro
- Passe
And I have to say that none of them really fit. The first two can describe software, but you don't update your old memes, they just get old and you rarely re-see them in a fit of nostalgia, deep inside your archives. #3 and #4 can be used in phrase describing how old is this post (e.g. ancient as mammoth's $#!@
). But hey, that's a phrase, not a single word! #5 is about the style, not the freshness. #6 is completely about fashion (e.g. MySpace is so passe
).
A friend of mine suggested retoast
, but I'm unsure because I haven't really seen the usage.
Your suggestions?
Update: Very sorry to break the rules, adding an example usage now.
Oh no, grandpa saw a pack of my business cards, and added me to his hilarious e-mailing list, consisting of ????? from 2007.
Also, if any of you guys surf russian internets, you may be familiar with баян
. I need precisely that translated. It is a common (first) comment to many posts in social networks, as re-posting happens quite often
Update 2: The small thing that I forgot to mention is that it's a noun in russian, I will sure accept the fact that there are no such, but it would be much more familiar to talk of information units, calling them ????? than saying that they are bromidic
, for example. I find bromidic
kinda 30% suitable, but I guess I can't derive a bromid
noun? So the speech contruction becomes longer, which is undesirable
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Using old
as a starting word, Urban Dictionary suggested:
- Obsolete
- Outdated
- Archaic
- Ancient
- Retro
- Passe
And I have to say that none of them really fit. The first two can describe software, but you don't update your old memes, they just get old and you rarely re-see them in a fit of nostalgia, deep inside your archives. #3 and #4 can be used in phrase describing how old is this post (e.g. ancient as mammoth's $#!@
). But hey, that's a phrase, not a single word! #5 is about the style, not the freshness. #6 is completely about fashion (e.g. MySpace is so passe
).
A friend of mine suggested retoast
, but I'm unsure because I haven't really seen the usage.
Your suggestions?
Update: Very sorry to break the rules, adding an example usage now.
Oh no, grandpa saw a pack of my business cards, and added me to his hilarious e-mailing list, consisting of ????? from 2007.
Also, if any of you guys surf russian internets, you may be familiar with баян
. I need precisely that translated. It is a common (first) comment to many posts in social networks, as re-posting happens quite often
Update 2: The small thing that I forgot to mention is that it's a noun in russian, I will sure accept the fact that there are no such, but it would be much more familiar to talk of information units, calling them ????? than saying that they are bromidic
, for example. I find bromidic
kinda 30% suitable, but I guess I can't derive a bromid
noun? So the speech contruction becomes longer, which is undesirable
single-word-requests
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Can you rephrase your question? I'm unsure what you're asking.
– michael_timofeev
Dec 29 '15 at 13:26
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I am voting to reopen this question as the duplicate doesn't read like it has the same context. @mekkanizer You had better edit your question to include more context. The following is the rule of this community. Questions on choosing an ideal word or phrase must include information on how it will be used in order to be answered. For help writing a good word or phrase request, see: About single word requests. Please edit your question accordingly.
– user140086
Dec 29 '15 at 13:54
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You need four more votes to get it reopened. In the meantime, why not review your question and see if there is more room for improvement and review below answers? One thing for sure is your question doesn't read well.
– user140086
Dec 29 '15 at 14:19
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Your question is still hopelessly unclear (and, as you can see, has already garnered two new close votes because of that).
– Hot Licks
Dec 29 '15 at 17:36
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Wait, if you're saying bromidic is the right adjective, are you sure bromide is not the right noun? As in, "Oh no, grandpa saw a pack of my business cards, and added me to his hilarious e-mailing list, consisting of bromide from 2007."
– Todd Wilcox
Dec 29 '15 at 21:04
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Using old
as a starting word, Urban Dictionary suggested:
- Obsolete
- Outdated
- Archaic
- Ancient
- Retro
- Passe
And I have to say that none of them really fit. The first two can describe software, but you don't update your old memes, they just get old and you rarely re-see them in a fit of nostalgia, deep inside your archives. #3 and #4 can be used in phrase describing how old is this post (e.g. ancient as mammoth's $#!@
). But hey, that's a phrase, not a single word! #5 is about the style, not the freshness. #6 is completely about fashion (e.g. MySpace is so passe
).
A friend of mine suggested retoast
, but I'm unsure because I haven't really seen the usage.
Your suggestions?
Update: Very sorry to break the rules, adding an example usage now.
Oh no, grandpa saw a pack of my business cards, and added me to his hilarious e-mailing list, consisting of ????? from 2007.
Also, if any of you guys surf russian internets, you may be familiar with баян
. I need precisely that translated. It is a common (first) comment to many posts in social networks, as re-posting happens quite often
Update 2: The small thing that I forgot to mention is that it's a noun in russian, I will sure accept the fact that there are no such, but it would be much more familiar to talk of information units, calling them ????? than saying that they are bromidic
, for example. I find bromidic
kinda 30% suitable, but I guess I can't derive a bromid
noun? So the speech contruction becomes longer, which is undesirable
single-word-requests
Using old
as a starting word, Urban Dictionary suggested:
- Obsolete
- Outdated
- Archaic
- Ancient
- Retro
- Passe
And I have to say that none of them really fit. The first two can describe software, but you don't update your old memes, they just get old and you rarely re-see them in a fit of nostalgia, deep inside your archives. #3 and #4 can be used in phrase describing how old is this post (e.g. ancient as mammoth's $#!@
). But hey, that's a phrase, not a single word! #5 is about the style, not the freshness. #6 is completely about fashion (e.g. MySpace is so passe
).
A friend of mine suggested retoast
, but I'm unsure because I haven't really seen the usage.
Your suggestions?
Update: Very sorry to break the rules, adding an example usage now.
Oh no, grandpa saw a pack of my business cards, and added me to his hilarious e-mailing list, consisting of ????? from 2007.
Also, if any of you guys surf russian internets, you may be familiar with баян
. I need precisely that translated. It is a common (first) comment to many posts in social networks, as re-posting happens quite often
Update 2: The small thing that I forgot to mention is that it's a noun in russian, I will sure accept the fact that there are no such, but it would be much more familiar to talk of information units, calling them ????? than saying that they are bromidic
, for example. I find bromidic
kinda 30% suitable, but I guess I can't derive a bromid
noun? So the speech contruction becomes longer, which is undesirable
single-word-requests
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Can you rephrase your question? I'm unsure what you're asking.
– michael_timofeev
Dec 29 '15 at 13:26
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I am voting to reopen this question as the duplicate doesn't read like it has the same context. @mekkanizer You had better edit your question to include more context. The following is the rule of this community. Questions on choosing an ideal word or phrase must include information on how it will be used in order to be answered. For help writing a good word or phrase request, see: About single word requests. Please edit your question accordingly.
– user140086
Dec 29 '15 at 13:54
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You need four more votes to get it reopened. In the meantime, why not review your question and see if there is more room for improvement and review below answers? One thing for sure is your question doesn't read well.
– user140086
Dec 29 '15 at 14:19
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Your question is still hopelessly unclear (and, as you can see, has already garnered two new close votes because of that).
– Hot Licks
Dec 29 '15 at 17:36
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Wait, if you're saying bromidic is the right adjective, are you sure bromide is not the right noun? As in, "Oh no, grandpa saw a pack of my business cards, and added me to his hilarious e-mailing list, consisting of bromide from 2007."
– Todd Wilcox
Dec 29 '15 at 21:04
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Can you rephrase your question? I'm unsure what you're asking.
– michael_timofeev
Dec 29 '15 at 13:26
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I am voting to reopen this question as the duplicate doesn't read like it has the same context. @mekkanizer You had better edit your question to include more context. The following is the rule of this community. Questions on choosing an ideal word or phrase must include information on how it will be used in order to be answered. For help writing a good word or phrase request, see: About single word requests. Please edit your question accordingly.
– user140086
Dec 29 '15 at 13:54
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You need four more votes to get it reopened. In the meantime, why not review your question and see if there is more room for improvement and review below answers? One thing for sure is your question doesn't read well.
– user140086
Dec 29 '15 at 14:19
2
Your question is still hopelessly unclear (and, as you can see, has already garnered two new close votes because of that).
– Hot Licks
Dec 29 '15 at 17:36
1
Wait, if you're saying bromidic is the right adjective, are you sure bromide is not the right noun? As in, "Oh no, grandpa saw a pack of my business cards, and added me to his hilarious e-mailing list, consisting of bromide from 2007."
– Todd Wilcox
Dec 29 '15 at 21:04
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Can you rephrase your question? I'm unsure what you're asking.
– michael_timofeev
Dec 29 '15 at 13:26
Can you rephrase your question? I'm unsure what you're asking.
– michael_timofeev
Dec 29 '15 at 13:26
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1
I am voting to reopen this question as the duplicate doesn't read like it has the same context. @mekkanizer You had better edit your question to include more context. The following is the rule of this community. Questions on choosing an ideal word or phrase must include information on how it will be used in order to be answered. For help writing a good word or phrase request, see: About single word requests. Please edit your question accordingly.
– user140086
Dec 29 '15 at 13:54
I am voting to reopen this question as the duplicate doesn't read like it has the same context. @mekkanizer You had better edit your question to include more context. The following is the rule of this community. Questions on choosing an ideal word or phrase must include information on how it will be used in order to be answered. For help writing a good word or phrase request, see: About single word requests. Please edit your question accordingly.
– user140086
Dec 29 '15 at 13:54
1
1
You need four more votes to get it reopened. In the meantime, why not review your question and see if there is more room for improvement and review below answers? One thing for sure is your question doesn't read well.
– user140086
Dec 29 '15 at 14:19
You need four more votes to get it reopened. In the meantime, why not review your question and see if there is more room for improvement and review below answers? One thing for sure is your question doesn't read well.
– user140086
Dec 29 '15 at 14:19
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Your question is still hopelessly unclear (and, as you can see, has already garnered two new close votes because of that).
– Hot Licks
Dec 29 '15 at 17:36
Your question is still hopelessly unclear (and, as you can see, has already garnered two new close votes because of that).
– Hot Licks
Dec 29 '15 at 17:36
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Wait, if you're saying bromidic is the right adjective, are you sure bromide is not the right noun? As in, "Oh no, grandpa saw a pack of my business cards, and added me to his hilarious e-mailing list, consisting of bromide from 2007."
– Todd Wilcox
Dec 29 '15 at 21:04
Wait, if you're saying bromidic is the right adjective, are you sure bromide is not the right noun? As in, "Oh no, grandpa saw a pack of my business cards, and added me to his hilarious e-mailing list, consisting of bromide from 2007."
– Todd Wilcox
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Old is (generally) an adjective in English. So all its synonyms are likely to be adjectives as well.
Going off your original post, I would absolutely use "tired", "ancient", or "antiquated", depending on what you're trying to convey. Tired suggests it's long-since gone out of fashion but is still in use, while ancient suggests it's no longer in common usage, but was at one point. Antiquated further conveys that in addition to no longer being used, it's out of fashion.
Tired: hackneyed; stale: the same tired old jokes.
Ancient: Of, relating to, or belonging to times long past
Antiquated: Too old to be fashionable, suitable, or useful; outmoded.
Paired with "memes" (as you do in the question, with "old memes") this conveys exactly what I think you're getting at:
Oh no, grandpa saw a pack of my business cards, and added me to his hilarious e-mailing list, consisting of tired memes from 2007.
But if the one-word requirement is stronger than a requirement for common usage, "antiquities" might be sufficient. It doesn't convey the same condescending tone as tired or antiquated, but it does convey that something is dated:
Oh no, grandpa saw a pack of my business cards, and added me to his hilarious e-mailing list, consisting of antiquities from 2007.
Alternatively "crap" would convey that it's useless, but the reader has to infer that it's also dated by the "from 2007".
You'll notice that now the sentence doesn't clearly convey what is being emailed. I think that's going to be somewhat tricky to avoid with a single word because the condescension stems from pairing a derogatory or dismissive adjective with a normally neutral or positive noun like meme.
Neutral:
Grandpa sent me memes from 2007.
Condescending:
Grandpa sent me tired memes from 2007.
I don't believe "repost" is what you're looking for (though it is a reasonable single-word, if that's really your priority) because it doesn't necessarily convey age or staleness. In fact repost is often used for very new content that has simply been posted previously, and therefore this post isn't original. Often when one person sees a repost others are seeing for the first time. In that sense repost actually gives grandpa some credit, because perhaps the others on the chain haven't seen what he's sending.
Nah, I just got confused while trying to explain everything to everyone. I like how you explain each of your examples, i guess I'll use tired as an adjective, and repost as a verb paired with antiquities. The problem is that english isn't native for me and I'm subconsciously trying to find the same exact word (it can mean excess re-usage and/or great age, in any combination, it just suits the case). So the solution is to just situationally use things I got from your and other answers, sometimes combining them. Thank for the time spent
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 18:21
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In the context you have given, it seems like you are looking for repost (Urban Dictionary). This is the label that is often stuck on message boards and such to indicate that something has been re-posted. It can be used as a countable noun, so you could say "consisting of reposts from 2007".
Wow man, you hit it so precisely and that's a noun! Totally won the contest
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 15:06
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@mekkanizer I'm glad this was good for you, but How does this have anything to do with what you described? Passé or archaic? 'Repost' just means you posted something again.
– Mitch
Dec 29 '15 at 15:45
@Mitch He explained the particular context in the body of the question.
– Kit Z. Fox♦
Dec 29 '15 at 16:45
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It's not a single word unfortunately, but you could consider using same old thing that means:
something that is extremely familiar
[Cambridge Dictionary of American Idioms]
You can use s*** in place of thing to intensify the meaning as in:
It is the same old s*** that I have seen so many times in other sites.
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I think hackneyed convey the idea:
- (of phrases, fashions, etc) used so often as to be trite, dull, and stereotyped.
Does not suit the case. Hackneyed describes some object the can modified in the order to make difference or be a copy. I'm asking for a word which complains about the fact that someone stole content on the Internet and posted is as something new despite the fact it had been seen so much times and stolen many times before by many other sources
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:25
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(entry from Concise Oxford Dictionary (tenth edition 1999))
rehash, ● v. reuse (old ideas or materials) without significant change or improvement. ● n. an instance of rehashing.
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This one implies the ability to modify content, I'm talikng of content theft
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:47
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The best seems to be
worn out
Other possibilities
recycled, reused, repackaged, dated, tired
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I can think of two idiomatic expression you could use
Same s***, different day
or
same old same old
As already suggested by Rathony. No single-word comes to mind unfortunately.
The wordcliched
doesn't suite the case for the same reason described under josh61's answer
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:26
@mekkanizer This answer is best used to define boring and mundane jobs. Is this helpful?
– Jony Agarwal
Dec 29 '15 at 14:45
I would accept, but I can accept only one, and Rathony was first and he's kinda zealous :) I'd upvote but I have too low rep to be able to
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:50
@mekkanizer Hahaha! That's okay. I am glad I could be of help.
– Jony Agarwal
Dec 29 '15 at 14:52
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@mekkanizer The first one is to be used in a professional setting. The second one is universal and can be applied to everything.
– Jony Agarwal
Dec 29 '15 at 15:11
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The use of the word plagiarized refers to content that already exists and was created by someone else, and to the fact that the content was not cited properly.
Good option BUT because it's derived from word plagiarism it's kinda wrong you know. In the Internet, this one can rather be used to shame an artist who has photoshopped other's signature on painting. But taking of other content the actual author loses value. Not all of the value, but fresheness definitely overtakes uniqueness
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 17:03
In a nutshell, won't accept cuz freshness > uniqueness, and plagiarizing describes freshness vaguely
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 17:05
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I think the answers here have covered a lot of the territory.
However, consider "(old) chestnut", which can have a negative connotation, for example in describing a well-worn joke or story, or a neutral or positive connotation, for example in describing a familiar aphorism or saying.
Oh no – Grandpa saw a pack of my business cards, and added me to his "hilarious" e-mail list. His messages are full of internet meme chestnuts from 2007.
In this sentence, the negative connotations are clear. The words "internet meme" provide clarity of context (if that is indeed the context you want), but may not be necessary, depending perhaps on your audience or further context provided elsewhere in your text.
Here are some links that you can follow to confirm the definition and suitability (note the definition that Google provides atop the search results):
Wiktionary (old chestnut)
1. (idiomatic) A well-worn story.
Google (old chestnut)
1. a joke or story that has become tedious because of its age and constant repetition.
Dictionary.com (chestnut)
6. an old or stale joke, anecdote, etc.
Thesaurus.com (joke; provides chestnut)
Here's the Wiktionary etymology information, which, along with those links, suggest that "chestnut" is very close to exactly what you're looking for:
Originally as chestnut, with "old" for emphasis. Popularized US 1880s, particularly Northeast and Midwest, with various theories propounded.
A commonly cited theory, viewed by the Oxford English Dictionary as "plausible" and cited by Brewer’s, is that it was coined by Boston comedic William Warren Jr., quoting from 1816 English melodrama The Broken Sword by William Dimond. One of the characters in the play is a boor, and when once recounting a tale mentions a cork tree, which is corrected by the character Pablo as "A chestnut. I have heard you tell the tale these 27 times." This line was then apparently quoted at a dinner party by Warren in response to a boor there, and proved popular. Note that William Warren Sr. had previously played Pablo on stage, but died in 1832, so the phrase was presumably popularized by the son, William Warren Jr.
Indeed, you've asked for the English equivalent of "баян". According to its Wiktionary entry, "баян" – literally, "accordion" – gets its figurative meaning of "old joke" from an oft-repeated and well-worn joke about an accordion (or rather, two accordions). With this ideational correspondence in their origins, "chestnut" even seems to have a similar flavor in English to "баян" in Russian, even if not the same currency on the internet.
Wiktionary (баян)
The “old joke” sense originated from a joke (Internet meme) at http://www.anekdot.ru — "Хоронили тёщу — порвали два баяна" (when we buried my mother-in-law, we broke two accordions).
(I would even go so far as to suggest that someone should edit the Wiktionary entry for "баян" to include "chestnut", but only as I gather from my research as set out above and from reading the comments on this page. To be clear, I don't speak any Russian and I have no idea what human burial has to do with accordions, or breaking them. Edit: I developed a hunch that accordion wreckage was the measure of a really good Russian party. That is confirmed here.)
Nice bit of digging.
– jxh
Dec 31 '15 at 0:04
Thanks jxh and @hvd for pointing me in a productive direction.
– RJH
Dec 31 '15 at 21:01
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There is the copypasta meme.
Copypasta is internet slang for any block of text that gets copied and pasted over and over again, typically disseminated by individuals through online discussion forums and social networking sites.
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I'm surprised that no one has suggested it, but cliche (or clichéd "showing a lack of originality; based on frequently repeated phrases or opinions")seem appropriate.
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Could you include the inteded use of the word?
I can think of
Tired
bromidic
mundane
blasé
Added intended use of the wordm rethink your suggestions please, asI find none of them suitable
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:27
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Old is (generally) an adjective in English. So all its synonyms are likely to be adjectives as well.
Going off your original post, I would absolutely use "tired", "ancient", or "antiquated", depending on what you're trying to convey. Tired suggests it's long-since gone out of fashion but is still in use, while ancient suggests it's no longer in common usage, but was at one point. Antiquated further conveys that in addition to no longer being used, it's out of fashion.
Tired: hackneyed; stale: the same tired old jokes.
Ancient: Of, relating to, or belonging to times long past
Antiquated: Too old to be fashionable, suitable, or useful; outmoded.
Paired with "memes" (as you do in the question, with "old memes") this conveys exactly what I think you're getting at:
Oh no, grandpa saw a pack of my business cards, and added me to his hilarious e-mailing list, consisting of tired memes from 2007.
But if the one-word requirement is stronger than a requirement for common usage, "antiquities" might be sufficient. It doesn't convey the same condescending tone as tired or antiquated, but it does convey that something is dated:
Oh no, grandpa saw a pack of my business cards, and added me to his hilarious e-mailing list, consisting of antiquities from 2007.
Alternatively "crap" would convey that it's useless, but the reader has to infer that it's also dated by the "from 2007".
You'll notice that now the sentence doesn't clearly convey what is being emailed. I think that's going to be somewhat tricky to avoid with a single word because the condescension stems from pairing a derogatory or dismissive adjective with a normally neutral or positive noun like meme.
Neutral:
Grandpa sent me memes from 2007.
Condescending:
Grandpa sent me tired memes from 2007.
I don't believe "repost" is what you're looking for (though it is a reasonable single-word, if that's really your priority) because it doesn't necessarily convey age or staleness. In fact repost is often used for very new content that has simply been posted previously, and therefore this post isn't original. Often when one person sees a repost others are seeing for the first time. In that sense repost actually gives grandpa some credit, because perhaps the others on the chain haven't seen what he's sending.
Nah, I just got confused while trying to explain everything to everyone. I like how you explain each of your examples, i guess I'll use tired as an adjective, and repost as a verb paired with antiquities. The problem is that english isn't native for me and I'm subconsciously trying to find the same exact word (it can mean excess re-usage and/or great age, in any combination, it just suits the case). So the solution is to just situationally use things I got from your and other answers, sometimes combining them. Thank for the time spent
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 18:21
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Old is (generally) an adjective in English. So all its synonyms are likely to be adjectives as well.
Going off your original post, I would absolutely use "tired", "ancient", or "antiquated", depending on what you're trying to convey. Tired suggests it's long-since gone out of fashion but is still in use, while ancient suggests it's no longer in common usage, but was at one point. Antiquated further conveys that in addition to no longer being used, it's out of fashion.
Tired: hackneyed; stale: the same tired old jokes.
Ancient: Of, relating to, or belonging to times long past
Antiquated: Too old to be fashionable, suitable, or useful; outmoded.
Paired with "memes" (as you do in the question, with "old memes") this conveys exactly what I think you're getting at:
Oh no, grandpa saw a pack of my business cards, and added me to his hilarious e-mailing list, consisting of tired memes from 2007.
But if the one-word requirement is stronger than a requirement for common usage, "antiquities" might be sufficient. It doesn't convey the same condescending tone as tired or antiquated, but it does convey that something is dated:
Oh no, grandpa saw a pack of my business cards, and added me to his hilarious e-mailing list, consisting of antiquities from 2007.
Alternatively "crap" would convey that it's useless, but the reader has to infer that it's also dated by the "from 2007".
You'll notice that now the sentence doesn't clearly convey what is being emailed. I think that's going to be somewhat tricky to avoid with a single word because the condescension stems from pairing a derogatory or dismissive adjective with a normally neutral or positive noun like meme.
Neutral:
Grandpa sent me memes from 2007.
Condescending:
Grandpa sent me tired memes from 2007.
I don't believe "repost" is what you're looking for (though it is a reasonable single-word, if that's really your priority) because it doesn't necessarily convey age or staleness. In fact repost is often used for very new content that has simply been posted previously, and therefore this post isn't original. Often when one person sees a repost others are seeing for the first time. In that sense repost actually gives grandpa some credit, because perhaps the others on the chain haven't seen what he's sending.
Nah, I just got confused while trying to explain everything to everyone. I like how you explain each of your examples, i guess I'll use tired as an adjective, and repost as a verb paired with antiquities. The problem is that english isn't native for me and I'm subconsciously trying to find the same exact word (it can mean excess re-usage and/or great age, in any combination, it just suits the case). So the solution is to just situationally use things I got from your and other answers, sometimes combining them. Thank for the time spent
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 18:21
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Old is (generally) an adjective in English. So all its synonyms are likely to be adjectives as well.
Going off your original post, I would absolutely use "tired", "ancient", or "antiquated", depending on what you're trying to convey. Tired suggests it's long-since gone out of fashion but is still in use, while ancient suggests it's no longer in common usage, but was at one point. Antiquated further conveys that in addition to no longer being used, it's out of fashion.
Tired: hackneyed; stale: the same tired old jokes.
Ancient: Of, relating to, or belonging to times long past
Antiquated: Too old to be fashionable, suitable, or useful; outmoded.
Paired with "memes" (as you do in the question, with "old memes") this conveys exactly what I think you're getting at:
Oh no, grandpa saw a pack of my business cards, and added me to his hilarious e-mailing list, consisting of tired memes from 2007.
But if the one-word requirement is stronger than a requirement for common usage, "antiquities" might be sufficient. It doesn't convey the same condescending tone as tired or antiquated, but it does convey that something is dated:
Oh no, grandpa saw a pack of my business cards, and added me to his hilarious e-mailing list, consisting of antiquities from 2007.
Alternatively "crap" would convey that it's useless, but the reader has to infer that it's also dated by the "from 2007".
You'll notice that now the sentence doesn't clearly convey what is being emailed. I think that's going to be somewhat tricky to avoid with a single word because the condescension stems from pairing a derogatory or dismissive adjective with a normally neutral or positive noun like meme.
Neutral:
Grandpa sent me memes from 2007.
Condescending:
Grandpa sent me tired memes from 2007.
I don't believe "repost" is what you're looking for (though it is a reasonable single-word, if that's really your priority) because it doesn't necessarily convey age or staleness. In fact repost is often used for very new content that has simply been posted previously, and therefore this post isn't original. Often when one person sees a repost others are seeing for the first time. In that sense repost actually gives grandpa some credit, because perhaps the others on the chain haven't seen what he's sending.
Old is (generally) an adjective in English. So all its synonyms are likely to be adjectives as well.
Going off your original post, I would absolutely use "tired", "ancient", or "antiquated", depending on what you're trying to convey. Tired suggests it's long-since gone out of fashion but is still in use, while ancient suggests it's no longer in common usage, but was at one point. Antiquated further conveys that in addition to no longer being used, it's out of fashion.
Tired: hackneyed; stale: the same tired old jokes.
Ancient: Of, relating to, or belonging to times long past
Antiquated: Too old to be fashionable, suitable, or useful; outmoded.
Paired with "memes" (as you do in the question, with "old memes") this conveys exactly what I think you're getting at:
Oh no, grandpa saw a pack of my business cards, and added me to his hilarious e-mailing list, consisting of tired memes from 2007.
But if the one-word requirement is stronger than a requirement for common usage, "antiquities" might be sufficient. It doesn't convey the same condescending tone as tired or antiquated, but it does convey that something is dated:
Oh no, grandpa saw a pack of my business cards, and added me to his hilarious e-mailing list, consisting of antiquities from 2007.
Alternatively "crap" would convey that it's useless, but the reader has to infer that it's also dated by the "from 2007".
You'll notice that now the sentence doesn't clearly convey what is being emailed. I think that's going to be somewhat tricky to avoid with a single word because the condescension stems from pairing a derogatory or dismissive adjective with a normally neutral or positive noun like meme.
Neutral:
Grandpa sent me memes from 2007.
Condescending:
Grandpa sent me tired memes from 2007.
I don't believe "repost" is what you're looking for (though it is a reasonable single-word, if that's really your priority) because it doesn't necessarily convey age or staleness. In fact repost is often used for very new content that has simply been posted previously, and therefore this post isn't original. Often when one person sees a repost others are seeing for the first time. In that sense repost actually gives grandpa some credit, because perhaps the others on the chain haven't seen what he's sending.
edited Dec 30 '15 at 17:32
answered Dec 29 '15 at 18:00
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Nah, I just got confused while trying to explain everything to everyone. I like how you explain each of your examples, i guess I'll use tired as an adjective, and repost as a verb paired with antiquities. The problem is that english isn't native for me and I'm subconsciously trying to find the same exact word (it can mean excess re-usage and/or great age, in any combination, it just suits the case). So the solution is to just situationally use things I got from your and other answers, sometimes combining them. Thank for the time spent
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 18:21
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Nah, I just got confused while trying to explain everything to everyone. I like how you explain each of your examples, i guess I'll use tired as an adjective, and repost as a verb paired with antiquities. The problem is that english isn't native for me and I'm subconsciously trying to find the same exact word (it can mean excess re-usage and/or great age, in any combination, it just suits the case). So the solution is to just situationally use things I got from your and other answers, sometimes combining them. Thank for the time spent
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 18:21
Nah, I just got confused while trying to explain everything to everyone. I like how you explain each of your examples, i guess I'll use tired as an adjective, and repost as a verb paired with antiquities. The problem is that english isn't native for me and I'm subconsciously trying to find the same exact word (it can mean excess re-usage and/or great age, in any combination, it just suits the case). So the solution is to just situationally use things I got from your and other answers, sometimes combining them. Thank for the time spent
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 18:21
Nah, I just got confused while trying to explain everything to everyone. I like how you explain each of your examples, i guess I'll use tired as an adjective, and repost as a verb paired with antiquities. The problem is that english isn't native for me and I'm subconsciously trying to find the same exact word (it can mean excess re-usage and/or great age, in any combination, it just suits the case). So the solution is to just situationally use things I got from your and other answers, sometimes combining them. Thank for the time spent
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 18:21
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In the context you have given, it seems like you are looking for repost (Urban Dictionary). This is the label that is often stuck on message boards and such to indicate that something has been re-posted. It can be used as a countable noun, so you could say "consisting of reposts from 2007".
Wow man, you hit it so precisely and that's a noun! Totally won the contest
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 15:06
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@mekkanizer I'm glad this was good for you, but How does this have anything to do with what you described? Passé or archaic? 'Repost' just means you posted something again.
– Mitch
Dec 29 '15 at 15:45
@Mitch He explained the particular context in the body of the question.
– Kit Z. Fox♦
Dec 29 '15 at 16:45
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In the context you have given, it seems like you are looking for repost (Urban Dictionary). This is the label that is often stuck on message boards and such to indicate that something has been re-posted. It can be used as a countable noun, so you could say "consisting of reposts from 2007".
Wow man, you hit it so precisely and that's a noun! Totally won the contest
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 15:06
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@mekkanizer I'm glad this was good for you, but How does this have anything to do with what you described? Passé or archaic? 'Repost' just means you posted something again.
– Mitch
Dec 29 '15 at 15:45
@Mitch He explained the particular context in the body of the question.
– Kit Z. Fox♦
Dec 29 '15 at 16:45
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In the context you have given, it seems like you are looking for repost (Urban Dictionary). This is the label that is often stuck on message boards and such to indicate that something has been re-posted. It can be used as a countable noun, so you could say "consisting of reposts from 2007".
In the context you have given, it seems like you are looking for repost (Urban Dictionary). This is the label that is often stuck on message boards and such to indicate that something has been re-posted. It can be used as a countable noun, so you could say "consisting of reposts from 2007".
answered Dec 29 '15 at 15:04
Kit Z. Fox♦
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Wow man, you hit it so precisely and that's a noun! Totally won the contest
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 15:06
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@mekkanizer I'm glad this was good for you, but How does this have anything to do with what you described? Passé or archaic? 'Repost' just means you posted something again.
– Mitch
Dec 29 '15 at 15:45
@Mitch He explained the particular context in the body of the question.
– Kit Z. Fox♦
Dec 29 '15 at 16:45
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Wow man, you hit it so precisely and that's a noun! Totally won the contest
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 15:06
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@mekkanizer I'm glad this was good for you, but How does this have anything to do with what you described? Passé or archaic? 'Repost' just means you posted something again.
– Mitch
Dec 29 '15 at 15:45
@Mitch He explained the particular context in the body of the question.
– Kit Z. Fox♦
Dec 29 '15 at 16:45
Wow man, you hit it so precisely and that's a noun! Totally won the contest
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 15:06
Wow man, you hit it so precisely and that's a noun! Totally won the contest
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 15:06
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@mekkanizer I'm glad this was good for you, but How does this have anything to do with what you described? Passé or archaic? 'Repost' just means you posted something again.
– Mitch
Dec 29 '15 at 15:45
@mekkanizer I'm glad this was good for you, but How does this have anything to do with what you described? Passé or archaic? 'Repost' just means you posted something again.
– Mitch
Dec 29 '15 at 15:45
@Mitch He explained the particular context in the body of the question.
– Kit Z. Fox♦
Dec 29 '15 at 16:45
@Mitch He explained the particular context in the body of the question.
– Kit Z. Fox♦
Dec 29 '15 at 16:45
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It's not a single word unfortunately, but you could consider using same old thing that means:
something that is extremely familiar
[Cambridge Dictionary of American Idioms]
You can use s*** in place of thing to intensify the meaning as in:
It is the same old s*** that I have seen so many times in other sites.
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It's not a single word unfortunately, but you could consider using same old thing that means:
something that is extremely familiar
[Cambridge Dictionary of American Idioms]
You can use s*** in place of thing to intensify the meaning as in:
It is the same old s*** that I have seen so many times in other sites.
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It's not a single word unfortunately, but you could consider using same old thing that means:
something that is extremely familiar
[Cambridge Dictionary of American Idioms]
You can use s*** in place of thing to intensify the meaning as in:
It is the same old s*** that I have seen so many times in other sites.
It's not a single word unfortunately, but you could consider using same old thing that means:
something that is extremely familiar
[Cambridge Dictionary of American Idioms]
You can use s*** in place of thing to intensify the meaning as in:
It is the same old s*** that I have seen so many times in other sites.
edited Dec 30 '15 at 17:40
answered Dec 29 '15 at 14:38
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I think hackneyed convey the idea:
- (of phrases, fashions, etc) used so often as to be trite, dull, and stereotyped.
Does not suit the case. Hackneyed describes some object the can modified in the order to make difference or be a copy. I'm asking for a word which complains about the fact that someone stole content on the Internet and posted is as something new despite the fact it had been seen so much times and stolen many times before by many other sources
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:25
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I think hackneyed convey the idea:
- (of phrases, fashions, etc) used so often as to be trite, dull, and stereotyped.
Does not suit the case. Hackneyed describes some object the can modified in the order to make difference or be a copy. I'm asking for a word which complains about the fact that someone stole content on the Internet and posted is as something new despite the fact it had been seen so much times and stolen many times before by many other sources
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:25
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I think hackneyed convey the idea:
- (of phrases, fashions, etc) used so often as to be trite, dull, and stereotyped.
I think hackneyed convey the idea:
- (of phrases, fashions, etc) used so often as to be trite, dull, and stereotyped.
answered Dec 29 '15 at 13:36
user66974
Does not suit the case. Hackneyed describes some object the can modified in the order to make difference or be a copy. I'm asking for a word which complains about the fact that someone stole content on the Internet and posted is as something new despite the fact it had been seen so much times and stolen many times before by many other sources
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:25
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Does not suit the case. Hackneyed describes some object the can modified in the order to make difference or be a copy. I'm asking for a word which complains about the fact that someone stole content on the Internet and posted is as something new despite the fact it had been seen so much times and stolen many times before by many other sources
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:25
Does not suit the case. Hackneyed describes some object the can modified in the order to make difference or be a copy. I'm asking for a word which complains about the fact that someone stole content on the Internet and posted is as something new despite the fact it had been seen so much times and stolen many times before by many other sources
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:25
Does not suit the case. Hackneyed describes some object the can modified in the order to make difference or be a copy. I'm asking for a word which complains about the fact that someone stole content on the Internet and posted is as something new despite the fact it had been seen so much times and stolen many times before by many other sources
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:25
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(entry from Concise Oxford Dictionary (tenth edition 1999))
rehash, ● v. reuse (old ideas or materials) without significant change or improvement. ● n. an instance of rehashing.
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This one implies the ability to modify content, I'm talikng of content theft
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:47
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(entry from Concise Oxford Dictionary (tenth edition 1999))
rehash, ● v. reuse (old ideas or materials) without significant change or improvement. ● n. an instance of rehashing.
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This one implies the ability to modify content, I'm talikng of content theft
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:47
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(entry from Concise Oxford Dictionary (tenth edition 1999))
rehash, ● v. reuse (old ideas or materials) without significant change or improvement. ● n. an instance of rehashing.
(entry from Concise Oxford Dictionary (tenth edition 1999))
rehash, ● v. reuse (old ideas or materials) without significant change or improvement. ● n. an instance of rehashing.
answered Dec 29 '15 at 14:42
Hugh
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This one implies the ability to modify content, I'm talikng of content theft
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:47
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This one implies the ability to modify content, I'm talikng of content theft
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:47
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This one implies the ability to modify content, I'm talikng of content theft
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:47
This one implies the ability to modify content, I'm talikng of content theft
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:47
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The best seems to be
worn out
Other possibilities
recycled, reused, repackaged, dated, tired
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The best seems to be
worn out
Other possibilities
recycled, reused, repackaged, dated, tired
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The best seems to be
worn out
Other possibilities
recycled, reused, repackaged, dated, tired
The best seems to be
worn out
Other possibilities
recycled, reused, repackaged, dated, tired
answered Dec 29 '15 at 22:06
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I can think of two idiomatic expression you could use
Same s***, different day
or
same old same old
As already suggested by Rathony. No single-word comes to mind unfortunately.
The wordcliched
doesn't suite the case for the same reason described under josh61's answer
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:26
@mekkanizer This answer is best used to define boring and mundane jobs. Is this helpful?
– Jony Agarwal
Dec 29 '15 at 14:45
I would accept, but I can accept only one, and Rathony was first and he's kinda zealous :) I'd upvote but I have too low rep to be able to
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:50
@mekkanizer Hahaha! That's okay. I am glad I could be of help.
– Jony Agarwal
Dec 29 '15 at 14:52
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@mekkanizer The first one is to be used in a professional setting. The second one is universal and can be applied to everything.
– Jony Agarwal
Dec 29 '15 at 15:11
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I can think of two idiomatic expression you could use
Same s***, different day
or
same old same old
As already suggested by Rathony. No single-word comes to mind unfortunately.
The wordcliched
doesn't suite the case for the same reason described under josh61's answer
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:26
@mekkanizer This answer is best used to define boring and mundane jobs. Is this helpful?
– Jony Agarwal
Dec 29 '15 at 14:45
I would accept, but I can accept only one, and Rathony was first and he's kinda zealous :) I'd upvote but I have too low rep to be able to
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:50
@mekkanizer Hahaha! That's okay. I am glad I could be of help.
– Jony Agarwal
Dec 29 '15 at 14:52
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@mekkanizer The first one is to be used in a professional setting. The second one is universal and can be applied to everything.
– Jony Agarwal
Dec 29 '15 at 15:11
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I can think of two idiomatic expression you could use
Same s***, different day
or
same old same old
As already suggested by Rathony. No single-word comes to mind unfortunately.
I can think of two idiomatic expression you could use
Same s***, different day
or
same old same old
As already suggested by Rathony. No single-word comes to mind unfortunately.
edited Dec 29 '15 at 15:10
answered Dec 29 '15 at 13:45
Jony Agarwal
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The wordcliched
doesn't suite the case for the same reason described under josh61's answer
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:26
@mekkanizer This answer is best used to define boring and mundane jobs. Is this helpful?
– Jony Agarwal
Dec 29 '15 at 14:45
I would accept, but I can accept only one, and Rathony was first and he's kinda zealous :) I'd upvote but I have too low rep to be able to
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:50
@mekkanizer Hahaha! That's okay. I am glad I could be of help.
– Jony Agarwal
Dec 29 '15 at 14:52
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@mekkanizer The first one is to be used in a professional setting. The second one is universal and can be applied to everything.
– Jony Agarwal
Dec 29 '15 at 15:11
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The wordcliched
doesn't suite the case for the same reason described under josh61's answer
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:26
@mekkanizer This answer is best used to define boring and mundane jobs. Is this helpful?
– Jony Agarwal
Dec 29 '15 at 14:45
I would accept, but I can accept only one, and Rathony was first and he's kinda zealous :) I'd upvote but I have too low rep to be able to
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:50
@mekkanizer Hahaha! That's okay. I am glad I could be of help.
– Jony Agarwal
Dec 29 '15 at 14:52
1
@mekkanizer The first one is to be used in a professional setting. The second one is universal and can be applied to everything.
– Jony Agarwal
Dec 29 '15 at 15:11
The word
cliched
doesn't suite the case for the same reason described under josh61's answer– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:26
The word
cliched
doesn't suite the case for the same reason described under josh61's answer– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:26
@mekkanizer This answer is best used to define boring and mundane jobs. Is this helpful?
– Jony Agarwal
Dec 29 '15 at 14:45
@mekkanizer This answer is best used to define boring and mundane jobs. Is this helpful?
– Jony Agarwal
Dec 29 '15 at 14:45
I would accept, but I can accept only one, and Rathony was first and he's kinda zealous :) I'd upvote but I have too low rep to be able to
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:50
I would accept, but I can accept only one, and Rathony was first and he's kinda zealous :) I'd upvote but I have too low rep to be able to
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:50
@mekkanizer Hahaha! That's okay. I am glad I could be of help.
– Jony Agarwal
Dec 29 '15 at 14:52
@mekkanizer Hahaha! That's okay. I am glad I could be of help.
– Jony Agarwal
Dec 29 '15 at 14:52
1
1
@mekkanizer The first one is to be used in a professional setting. The second one is universal and can be applied to everything.
– Jony Agarwal
Dec 29 '15 at 15:11
@mekkanizer The first one is to be used in a professional setting. The second one is universal and can be applied to everything.
– Jony Agarwal
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The use of the word plagiarized refers to content that already exists and was created by someone else, and to the fact that the content was not cited properly.
Good option BUT because it's derived from word plagiarism it's kinda wrong you know. In the Internet, this one can rather be used to shame an artist who has photoshopped other's signature on painting. But taking of other content the actual author loses value. Not all of the value, but fresheness definitely overtakes uniqueness
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 17:03
In a nutshell, won't accept cuz freshness > uniqueness, and plagiarizing describes freshness vaguely
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 17:05
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The use of the word plagiarized refers to content that already exists and was created by someone else, and to the fact that the content was not cited properly.
Good option BUT because it's derived from word plagiarism it's kinda wrong you know. In the Internet, this one can rather be used to shame an artist who has photoshopped other's signature on painting. But taking of other content the actual author loses value. Not all of the value, but fresheness definitely overtakes uniqueness
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 17:03
In a nutshell, won't accept cuz freshness > uniqueness, and plagiarizing describes freshness vaguely
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 17:05
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The use of the word plagiarized refers to content that already exists and was created by someone else, and to the fact that the content was not cited properly.
The use of the word plagiarized refers to content that already exists and was created by someone else, and to the fact that the content was not cited properly.
answered Dec 29 '15 at 16:55
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Good option BUT because it's derived from word plagiarism it's kinda wrong you know. In the Internet, this one can rather be used to shame an artist who has photoshopped other's signature on painting. But taking of other content the actual author loses value. Not all of the value, but fresheness definitely overtakes uniqueness
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 17:03
In a nutshell, won't accept cuz freshness > uniqueness, and plagiarizing describes freshness vaguely
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 17:05
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Good option BUT because it's derived from word plagiarism it's kinda wrong you know. In the Internet, this one can rather be used to shame an artist who has photoshopped other's signature on painting. But taking of other content the actual author loses value. Not all of the value, but fresheness definitely overtakes uniqueness
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 17:03
In a nutshell, won't accept cuz freshness > uniqueness, and plagiarizing describes freshness vaguely
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 17:05
Good option BUT because it's derived from word plagiarism it's kinda wrong you know. In the Internet, this one can rather be used to shame an artist who has photoshopped other's signature on painting. But taking of other content the actual author loses value. Not all of the value, but fresheness definitely overtakes uniqueness
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 17:03
Good option BUT because it's derived from word plagiarism it's kinda wrong you know. In the Internet, this one can rather be used to shame an artist who has photoshopped other's signature on painting. But taking of other content the actual author loses value. Not all of the value, but fresheness definitely overtakes uniqueness
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 17:03
In a nutshell, won't accept cuz freshness > uniqueness, and plagiarizing describes freshness vaguely
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 17:05
In a nutshell, won't accept cuz freshness > uniqueness, and plagiarizing describes freshness vaguely
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 17:05
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I think the answers here have covered a lot of the territory.
However, consider "(old) chestnut", which can have a negative connotation, for example in describing a well-worn joke or story, or a neutral or positive connotation, for example in describing a familiar aphorism or saying.
Oh no – Grandpa saw a pack of my business cards, and added me to his "hilarious" e-mail list. His messages are full of internet meme chestnuts from 2007.
In this sentence, the negative connotations are clear. The words "internet meme" provide clarity of context (if that is indeed the context you want), but may not be necessary, depending perhaps on your audience or further context provided elsewhere in your text.
Here are some links that you can follow to confirm the definition and suitability (note the definition that Google provides atop the search results):
Wiktionary (old chestnut)
1. (idiomatic) A well-worn story.
Google (old chestnut)
1. a joke or story that has become tedious because of its age and constant repetition.
Dictionary.com (chestnut)
6. an old or stale joke, anecdote, etc.
Thesaurus.com (joke; provides chestnut)
Here's the Wiktionary etymology information, which, along with those links, suggest that "chestnut" is very close to exactly what you're looking for:
Originally as chestnut, with "old" for emphasis. Popularized US 1880s, particularly Northeast and Midwest, with various theories propounded.
A commonly cited theory, viewed by the Oxford English Dictionary as "plausible" and cited by Brewer’s, is that it was coined by Boston comedic William Warren Jr., quoting from 1816 English melodrama The Broken Sword by William Dimond. One of the characters in the play is a boor, and when once recounting a tale mentions a cork tree, which is corrected by the character Pablo as "A chestnut. I have heard you tell the tale these 27 times." This line was then apparently quoted at a dinner party by Warren in response to a boor there, and proved popular. Note that William Warren Sr. had previously played Pablo on stage, but died in 1832, so the phrase was presumably popularized by the son, William Warren Jr.
Indeed, you've asked for the English equivalent of "баян". According to its Wiktionary entry, "баян" – literally, "accordion" – gets its figurative meaning of "old joke" from an oft-repeated and well-worn joke about an accordion (or rather, two accordions). With this ideational correspondence in their origins, "chestnut" even seems to have a similar flavor in English to "баян" in Russian, even if not the same currency on the internet.
Wiktionary (баян)
The “old joke” sense originated from a joke (Internet meme) at http://www.anekdot.ru — "Хоронили тёщу — порвали два баяна" (when we buried my mother-in-law, we broke two accordions).
(I would even go so far as to suggest that someone should edit the Wiktionary entry for "баян" to include "chestnut", but only as I gather from my research as set out above and from reading the comments on this page. To be clear, I don't speak any Russian and I have no idea what human burial has to do with accordions, or breaking them. Edit: I developed a hunch that accordion wreckage was the measure of a really good Russian party. That is confirmed here.)
Nice bit of digging.
– jxh
Dec 31 '15 at 0:04
Thanks jxh and @hvd for pointing me in a productive direction.
– RJH
Dec 31 '15 at 21:01
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I think the answers here have covered a lot of the territory.
However, consider "(old) chestnut", which can have a negative connotation, for example in describing a well-worn joke or story, or a neutral or positive connotation, for example in describing a familiar aphorism or saying.
Oh no – Grandpa saw a pack of my business cards, and added me to his "hilarious" e-mail list. His messages are full of internet meme chestnuts from 2007.
In this sentence, the negative connotations are clear. The words "internet meme" provide clarity of context (if that is indeed the context you want), but may not be necessary, depending perhaps on your audience or further context provided elsewhere in your text.
Here are some links that you can follow to confirm the definition and suitability (note the definition that Google provides atop the search results):
Wiktionary (old chestnut)
1. (idiomatic) A well-worn story.
Google (old chestnut)
1. a joke or story that has become tedious because of its age and constant repetition.
Dictionary.com (chestnut)
6. an old or stale joke, anecdote, etc.
Thesaurus.com (joke; provides chestnut)
Here's the Wiktionary etymology information, which, along with those links, suggest that "chestnut" is very close to exactly what you're looking for:
Originally as chestnut, with "old" for emphasis. Popularized US 1880s, particularly Northeast and Midwest, with various theories propounded.
A commonly cited theory, viewed by the Oxford English Dictionary as "plausible" and cited by Brewer’s, is that it was coined by Boston comedic William Warren Jr., quoting from 1816 English melodrama The Broken Sword by William Dimond. One of the characters in the play is a boor, and when once recounting a tale mentions a cork tree, which is corrected by the character Pablo as "A chestnut. I have heard you tell the tale these 27 times." This line was then apparently quoted at a dinner party by Warren in response to a boor there, and proved popular. Note that William Warren Sr. had previously played Pablo on stage, but died in 1832, so the phrase was presumably popularized by the son, William Warren Jr.
Indeed, you've asked for the English equivalent of "баян". According to its Wiktionary entry, "баян" – literally, "accordion" – gets its figurative meaning of "old joke" from an oft-repeated and well-worn joke about an accordion (or rather, two accordions). With this ideational correspondence in their origins, "chestnut" even seems to have a similar flavor in English to "баян" in Russian, even if not the same currency on the internet.
Wiktionary (баян)
The “old joke” sense originated from a joke (Internet meme) at http://www.anekdot.ru — "Хоронили тёщу — порвали два баяна" (when we buried my mother-in-law, we broke two accordions).
(I would even go so far as to suggest that someone should edit the Wiktionary entry for "баян" to include "chestnut", but only as I gather from my research as set out above and from reading the comments on this page. To be clear, I don't speak any Russian and I have no idea what human burial has to do with accordions, or breaking them. Edit: I developed a hunch that accordion wreckage was the measure of a really good Russian party. That is confirmed here.)
Nice bit of digging.
– jxh
Dec 31 '15 at 0:04
Thanks jxh and @hvd for pointing me in a productive direction.
– RJH
Dec 31 '15 at 21:01
add a comment |
I think the answers here have covered a lot of the territory.
However, consider "(old) chestnut", which can have a negative connotation, for example in describing a well-worn joke or story, or a neutral or positive connotation, for example in describing a familiar aphorism or saying.
Oh no – Grandpa saw a pack of my business cards, and added me to his "hilarious" e-mail list. His messages are full of internet meme chestnuts from 2007.
In this sentence, the negative connotations are clear. The words "internet meme" provide clarity of context (if that is indeed the context you want), but may not be necessary, depending perhaps on your audience or further context provided elsewhere in your text.
Here are some links that you can follow to confirm the definition and suitability (note the definition that Google provides atop the search results):
Wiktionary (old chestnut)
1. (idiomatic) A well-worn story.
Google (old chestnut)
1. a joke or story that has become tedious because of its age and constant repetition.
Dictionary.com (chestnut)
6. an old or stale joke, anecdote, etc.
Thesaurus.com (joke; provides chestnut)
Here's the Wiktionary etymology information, which, along with those links, suggest that "chestnut" is very close to exactly what you're looking for:
Originally as chestnut, with "old" for emphasis. Popularized US 1880s, particularly Northeast and Midwest, with various theories propounded.
A commonly cited theory, viewed by the Oxford English Dictionary as "plausible" and cited by Brewer’s, is that it was coined by Boston comedic William Warren Jr., quoting from 1816 English melodrama The Broken Sword by William Dimond. One of the characters in the play is a boor, and when once recounting a tale mentions a cork tree, which is corrected by the character Pablo as "A chestnut. I have heard you tell the tale these 27 times." This line was then apparently quoted at a dinner party by Warren in response to a boor there, and proved popular. Note that William Warren Sr. had previously played Pablo on stage, but died in 1832, so the phrase was presumably popularized by the son, William Warren Jr.
Indeed, you've asked for the English equivalent of "баян". According to its Wiktionary entry, "баян" – literally, "accordion" – gets its figurative meaning of "old joke" from an oft-repeated and well-worn joke about an accordion (or rather, two accordions). With this ideational correspondence in their origins, "chestnut" even seems to have a similar flavor in English to "баян" in Russian, even if not the same currency on the internet.
Wiktionary (баян)
The “old joke” sense originated from a joke (Internet meme) at http://www.anekdot.ru — "Хоронили тёщу — порвали два баяна" (when we buried my mother-in-law, we broke two accordions).
(I would even go so far as to suggest that someone should edit the Wiktionary entry for "баян" to include "chestnut", but only as I gather from my research as set out above and from reading the comments on this page. To be clear, I don't speak any Russian and I have no idea what human burial has to do with accordions, or breaking them. Edit: I developed a hunch that accordion wreckage was the measure of a really good Russian party. That is confirmed here.)
I think the answers here have covered a lot of the territory.
However, consider "(old) chestnut", which can have a negative connotation, for example in describing a well-worn joke or story, or a neutral or positive connotation, for example in describing a familiar aphorism or saying.
Oh no – Grandpa saw a pack of my business cards, and added me to his "hilarious" e-mail list. His messages are full of internet meme chestnuts from 2007.
In this sentence, the negative connotations are clear. The words "internet meme" provide clarity of context (if that is indeed the context you want), but may not be necessary, depending perhaps on your audience or further context provided elsewhere in your text.
Here are some links that you can follow to confirm the definition and suitability (note the definition that Google provides atop the search results):
Wiktionary (old chestnut)
1. (idiomatic) A well-worn story.
Google (old chestnut)
1. a joke or story that has become tedious because of its age and constant repetition.
Dictionary.com (chestnut)
6. an old or stale joke, anecdote, etc.
Thesaurus.com (joke; provides chestnut)
Here's the Wiktionary etymology information, which, along with those links, suggest that "chestnut" is very close to exactly what you're looking for:
Originally as chestnut, with "old" for emphasis. Popularized US 1880s, particularly Northeast and Midwest, with various theories propounded.
A commonly cited theory, viewed by the Oxford English Dictionary as "plausible" and cited by Brewer’s, is that it was coined by Boston comedic William Warren Jr., quoting from 1816 English melodrama The Broken Sword by William Dimond. One of the characters in the play is a boor, and when once recounting a tale mentions a cork tree, which is corrected by the character Pablo as "A chestnut. I have heard you tell the tale these 27 times." This line was then apparently quoted at a dinner party by Warren in response to a boor there, and proved popular. Note that William Warren Sr. had previously played Pablo on stage, but died in 1832, so the phrase was presumably popularized by the son, William Warren Jr.
Indeed, you've asked for the English equivalent of "баян". According to its Wiktionary entry, "баян" – literally, "accordion" – gets its figurative meaning of "old joke" from an oft-repeated and well-worn joke about an accordion (or rather, two accordions). With this ideational correspondence in their origins, "chestnut" even seems to have a similar flavor in English to "баян" in Russian, even if not the same currency on the internet.
Wiktionary (баян)
The “old joke” sense originated from a joke (Internet meme) at http://www.anekdot.ru — "Хоронили тёщу — порвали два баяна" (when we buried my mother-in-law, we broke two accordions).
(I would even go so far as to suggest that someone should edit the Wiktionary entry for "баян" to include "chestnut", but only as I gather from my research as set out above and from reading the comments on this page. To be clear, I don't speak any Russian and I have no idea what human burial has to do with accordions, or breaking them. Edit: I developed a hunch that accordion wreckage was the measure of a really good Russian party. That is confirmed here.)
edited Dec 31 '15 at 23:56
answered Dec 30 '15 at 22:00
RJH
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Nice bit of digging.
– jxh
Dec 31 '15 at 0:04
Thanks jxh and @hvd for pointing me in a productive direction.
– RJH
Dec 31 '15 at 21:01
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Nice bit of digging.
– jxh
Dec 31 '15 at 0:04
Thanks jxh and @hvd for pointing me in a productive direction.
– RJH
Dec 31 '15 at 21:01
Nice bit of digging.
– jxh
Dec 31 '15 at 0:04
Nice bit of digging.
– jxh
Dec 31 '15 at 0:04
Thanks jxh and @hvd for pointing me in a productive direction.
– RJH
Dec 31 '15 at 21:01
Thanks jxh and @hvd for pointing me in a productive direction.
– RJH
Dec 31 '15 at 21:01
add a comment |
There is the copypasta meme.
Copypasta is internet slang for any block of text that gets copied and pasted over and over again, typically disseminated by individuals through online discussion forums and social networking sites.
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There is the copypasta meme.
Copypasta is internet slang for any block of text that gets copied and pasted over and over again, typically disseminated by individuals through online discussion forums and social networking sites.
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There is the copypasta meme.
Copypasta is internet slang for any block of text that gets copied and pasted over and over again, typically disseminated by individuals through online discussion forums and social networking sites.
There is the copypasta meme.
Copypasta is internet slang for any block of text that gets copied and pasted over and over again, typically disseminated by individuals through online discussion forums and social networking sites.
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answered Dec 29 '15 at 21:53
Fuhrmanator
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I'm surprised that no one has suggested it, but cliche (or clichéd "showing a lack of originality; based on frequently repeated phrases or opinions")seem appropriate.
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I'm surprised that no one has suggested it, but cliche (or clichéd "showing a lack of originality; based on frequently repeated phrases or opinions")seem appropriate.
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I'm surprised that no one has suggested it, but cliche (or clichéd "showing a lack of originality; based on frequently repeated phrases or opinions")seem appropriate.
I'm surprised that no one has suggested it, but cliche (or clichéd "showing a lack of originality; based on frequently repeated phrases or opinions")seem appropriate.
answered Dec 30 '15 at 0:19
WhatRoughBeast
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Could you include the inteded use of the word?
I can think of
Tired
bromidic
mundane
blasé
Added intended use of the wordm rethink your suggestions please, asI find none of them suitable
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:27
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Could you include the inteded use of the word?
I can think of
Tired
bromidic
mundane
blasé
Added intended use of the wordm rethink your suggestions please, asI find none of them suitable
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:27
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Could you include the inteded use of the word?
I can think of
Tired
bromidic
mundane
blasé
Could you include the inteded use of the word?
I can think of
Tired
bromidic
mundane
blasé
answered Dec 29 '15 at 13:40
Johnny DropTables
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Added intended use of the wordm rethink your suggestions please, asI find none of them suitable
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:27
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Added intended use of the wordm rethink your suggestions please, asI find none of them suitable
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:27
Added intended use of the wordm rethink your suggestions please, asI find none of them suitable
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:27
Added intended use of the wordm rethink your suggestions please, asI find none of them suitable
– mekkanizer
Dec 29 '15 at 14:27
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Can you rephrase your question? I'm unsure what you're asking.
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I am voting to reopen this question as the duplicate doesn't read like it has the same context. @mekkanizer You had better edit your question to include more context. The following is the rule of this community. Questions on choosing an ideal word or phrase must include information on how it will be used in order to be answered. For help writing a good word or phrase request, see: About single word requests. Please edit your question accordingly.
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You need four more votes to get it reopened. In the meantime, why not review your question and see if there is more room for improvement and review below answers? One thing for sure is your question doesn't read well.
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Your question is still hopelessly unclear (and, as you can see, has already garnered two new close votes because of that).
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Wait, if you're saying bromidic is the right adjective, are you sure bromide is not the right noun? As in, "Oh no, grandpa saw a pack of my business cards, and added me to his hilarious e-mailing list, consisting of bromide from 2007."
– Todd Wilcox
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