What’s a good phrase or idiom similar to “going in blind” or “jumping in the deep end”?
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A while ago I had a conversation with a colleague of mine, and
we’re talking about an applicant who applied for a position
that he does not have any background knowledge of, no experience
with the said field and completely unaware of what he is getting
himself into.
He had not even done any research beforehand and so did not
understand even the name of the position. I said that he was
“point blank” with my colleague and we continued our discussion:
none of us noticed I had used the wrong idiom/phrase.
Later tonight, I felt that something was wrong and remembered
the phrase I used wrongly, so I tried to think of that specific
phrase that I meant to say but had failed to do so correctly.
It’s supposed to mean something like “going into a gunfight
empty-handed” or “taking an exam without studying”.
Google not seem to help, and I don’t know any native English
speakers in real life.
I posted this on reddit, and got some really close answers like
“Jumping in the deep end” or “Going in blind” which are close to
what I was meaning to say cause it supposed to sound like going
to recklessly commit yourself into something while being
ignorant of the things you’re about to encounter, or something
like that.
But it still doesn’t sound right; can you help me find the phrase
I’m looking for?
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A while ago I had a conversation with a colleague of mine, and
we’re talking about an applicant who applied for a position
that he does not have any background knowledge of, no experience
with the said field and completely unaware of what he is getting
himself into.
He had not even done any research beforehand and so did not
understand even the name of the position. I said that he was
“point blank” with my colleague and we continued our discussion:
none of us noticed I had used the wrong idiom/phrase.
Later tonight, I felt that something was wrong and remembered
the phrase I used wrongly, so I tried to think of that specific
phrase that I meant to say but had failed to do so correctly.
It’s supposed to mean something like “going into a gunfight
empty-handed” or “taking an exam without studying”.
Google not seem to help, and I don’t know any native English
speakers in real life.
I posted this on reddit, and got some really close answers like
“Jumping in the deep end” or “Going in blind” which are close to
what I was meaning to say cause it supposed to sound like going
to recklessly commit yourself into something while being
ignorant of the things you’re about to encounter, or something
like that.
But it still doesn’t sound right; can you help me find the phrase
I’m looking for?
phrase-requests idiom-requests aphorism-requests
edited 1 hour ago
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asked Jul 18 '17 at 15:39
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I think "jumping in at the deep end" and "going in blind" are valid, they both connote a lack of awareness of what the protagonist faces and, by extension, imply some recklessness. Of these, the former addresses the potential recklessness more clearly, with its implications of drowning. Can you explain why neither of these answers suffice?
– glytching
Jul 18 '17 at 15:51
This might be useful, english.stackexchange.com/questions/38103/…
– Steve Lovell
Jul 18 '17 at 17:07
Next time could you leave out all before "… something like 'going into a gunfight empty-handed' or 'taking an exam without studying…" and start with something useful, please?
– Robbie Goodwin
2 hours ago
Further, when 'Jumping in the deep end' or 'Going in blind' are close; when what you meant to say sounded like going to recklessly commit yourself into something while being ignorant of what you're about to (any sense or whatever)... but it still doesn't sound right, what does it sound like?
– Robbie Goodwin
2 hours ago
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A while ago I had a conversation with a colleague of mine, and
we’re talking about an applicant who applied for a position
that he does not have any background knowledge of, no experience
with the said field and completely unaware of what he is getting
himself into.
He had not even done any research beforehand and so did not
understand even the name of the position. I said that he was
“point blank” with my colleague and we continued our discussion:
none of us noticed I had used the wrong idiom/phrase.
Later tonight, I felt that something was wrong and remembered
the phrase I used wrongly, so I tried to think of that specific
phrase that I meant to say but had failed to do so correctly.
It’s supposed to mean something like “going into a gunfight
empty-handed” or “taking an exam without studying”.
Google not seem to help, and I don’t know any native English
speakers in real life.
I posted this on reddit, and got some really close answers like
“Jumping in the deep end” or “Going in blind” which are close to
what I was meaning to say cause it supposed to sound like going
to recklessly commit yourself into something while being
ignorant of the things you’re about to encounter, or something
like that.
But it still doesn’t sound right; can you help me find the phrase
I’m looking for?
phrase-requests idiom-requests aphorism-requests
edited 1 hour ago
tchrist♦
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asked Jul 18 '17 at 15:39
rednryt
135
A while ago I had a conversation with a colleague of mine, and
we’re talking about an applicant who applied for a position
that he does not have any background knowledge of, no experience
with the said field and completely unaware of what he is getting
himself into.
He had not even done any research beforehand and so did not
understand even the name of the position. I said that he was
“point blank” with my colleague and we continued our discussion:
none of us noticed I had used the wrong idiom/phrase.
Later tonight, I felt that something was wrong and remembered
the phrase I used wrongly, so I tried to think of that specific
phrase that I meant to say but had failed to do so correctly.
It’s supposed to mean something like “going into a gunfight
empty-handed” or “taking an exam without studying”.
Google not seem to help, and I don’t know any native English
speakers in real life.
I posted this on reddit, and got some really close answers like
“Jumping in the deep end” or “Going in blind” which are close to
what I was meaning to say cause it supposed to sound like going
to recklessly commit yourself into something while being
ignorant of the things you’re about to encounter, or something
like that.
But it still doesn’t sound right; can you help me find the phrase
I’m looking for?
phrase-requests idiom-requests aphorism-requests
phrase-requests idiom-requests aphorism-requests
edited 1 hour ago
tchrist♦
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asked Jul 18 '17 at 15:39
rednryt
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edited 1 hour ago
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asked Jul 18 '17 at 15:39
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asked Jul 18 '17 at 15:39
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I think "jumping in at the deep end" and "going in blind" are valid, they both connote a lack of awareness of what the protagonist faces and, by extension, imply some recklessness. Of these, the former addresses the potential recklessness more clearly, with its implications of drowning. Can you explain why neither of these answers suffice?
– glytching
Jul 18 '17 at 15:51
This might be useful, english.stackexchange.com/questions/38103/…
– Steve Lovell
Jul 18 '17 at 17:07
Next time could you leave out all before "… something like 'going into a gunfight empty-handed' or 'taking an exam without studying…" and start with something useful, please?
– Robbie Goodwin
2 hours ago
Further, when 'Jumping in the deep end' or 'Going in blind' are close; when what you meant to say sounded like going to recklessly commit yourself into something while being ignorant of what you're about to (any sense or whatever)... but it still doesn't sound right, what does it sound like?
– Robbie Goodwin
2 hours ago
add a comment |
I think "jumping in at the deep end" and "going in blind" are valid, they both connote a lack of awareness of what the protagonist faces and, by extension, imply some recklessness. Of these, the former addresses the potential recklessness more clearly, with its implications of drowning. Can you explain why neither of these answers suffice?
– glytching
Jul 18 '17 at 15:51
This might be useful, english.stackexchange.com/questions/38103/…
– Steve Lovell
Jul 18 '17 at 17:07
Next time could you leave out all before "… something like 'going into a gunfight empty-handed' or 'taking an exam without studying…" and start with something useful, please?
– Robbie Goodwin
2 hours ago
Further, when 'Jumping in the deep end' or 'Going in blind' are close; when what you meant to say sounded like going to recklessly commit yourself into something while being ignorant of what you're about to (any sense or whatever)... but it still doesn't sound right, what does it sound like?
– Robbie Goodwin
2 hours ago
I think "jumping in at the deep end" and "going in blind" are valid, they both connote a lack of awareness of what the protagonist faces and, by extension, imply some recklessness. Of these, the former addresses the potential recklessness more clearly, with its implications of drowning. Can you explain why neither of these answers suffice?
– glytching
Jul 18 '17 at 15:51
I think "jumping in at the deep end" and "going in blind" are valid, they both connote a lack of awareness of what the protagonist faces and, by extension, imply some recklessness. Of these, the former addresses the potential recklessness more clearly, with its implications of drowning. Can you explain why neither of these answers suffice?
– glytching
Jul 18 '17 at 15:51
This might be useful, english.stackexchange.com/questions/38103/…
– Steve Lovell
Jul 18 '17 at 17:07
This might be useful, english.stackexchange.com/questions/38103/…
– Steve Lovell
Jul 18 '17 at 17:07
Next time could you leave out all before "… something like 'going into a gunfight empty-handed' or 'taking an exam without studying…" and start with something useful, please?
– Robbie Goodwin
2 hours ago
Next time could you leave out all before "… something like 'going into a gunfight empty-handed' or 'taking an exam without studying…" and start with something useful, please?
– Robbie Goodwin
2 hours ago
Further, when 'Jumping in the deep end' or 'Going in blind' are close; when what you meant to say sounded like going to recklessly commit yourself into something while being ignorant of what you're about to (any sense or whatever)... but it still doesn't sound right, what does it sound like?
– Robbie Goodwin
2 hours ago
Further, when 'Jumping in the deep end' or 'Going in blind' are close; when what you meant to say sounded like going to recklessly commit yourself into something while being ignorant of what you're about to (any sense or whatever)... but it still doesn't sound right, what does it sound like?
– Robbie Goodwin
2 hours ago
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A few possible idioms that come to mind are:
"Rushing in where angels fear to tread" (line from Alexander Pope, leaving implicit that the rushing is done by a fool). This seems better than "jumping in the deep end", which speaks more of courage than clueless bravado. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fools_rush_in_where_angels_fear_to_tread
"Like a bull in a china store", implying a total and inexcusable lack of awareness.
"All guts and no brains", similar to the first one. This would be a play on the idiom "All brawn and no brains" quote by JFK (which I can't find a link to, sorry).
answered Jul 18 '17 at 15:54
Ian
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Also, "jumping in head first". Similar to jumping in the deep end. Both are used to mean one of 2 things: either "think before you leap" OR "just go for it" (without the negative connotation that you haven't thought it through)
– Kace36
Jul 18 '17 at 23:46
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A few possible idioms that come to mind are:
"Rushing in where angels fear to tread" (line from Alexander Pope, leaving implicit that the rushing is done by a fool). This seems better than "jumping in the deep end", which speaks more of courage than clueless bravado. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fools_rush_in_where_angels_fear_to_tread
"Like a bull in a china store", implying a total and inexcusable lack of awareness.
"All guts and no brains", similar to the first one. This would be a play on the idiom "All brawn and no brains" quote by JFK (which I can't find a link to, sorry).
answered Jul 18 '17 at 15:54
Ian
1567
Also, "jumping in head first". Similar to jumping in the deep end. Both are used to mean one of 2 things: either "think before you leap" OR "just go for it" (without the negative connotation that you haven't thought it through)
– Kace36
Jul 18 '17 at 23:46
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A few possible idioms that come to mind are:
"Rushing in where angels fear to tread" (line from Alexander Pope, leaving implicit that the rushing is done by a fool). This seems better than "jumping in the deep end", which speaks more of courage than clueless bravado. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fools_rush_in_where_angels_fear_to_tread
"Like a bull in a china store", implying a total and inexcusable lack of awareness.
"All guts and no brains", similar to the first one. This would be a play on the idiom "All brawn and no brains" quote by JFK (which I can't find a link to, sorry).
answered Jul 18 '17 at 15:54
Ian
1567
Also, "jumping in head first". Similar to jumping in the deep end. Both are used to mean one of 2 things: either "think before you leap" OR "just go for it" (without the negative connotation that you haven't thought it through)
– Kace36
Jul 18 '17 at 23:46
add a comment |
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up vote
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A few possible idioms that come to mind are:
"Rushing in where angels fear to tread" (line from Alexander Pope, leaving implicit that the rushing is done by a fool). This seems better than "jumping in the deep end", which speaks more of courage than clueless bravado. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fools_rush_in_where_angels_fear_to_tread
"Like a bull in a china store", implying a total and inexcusable lack of awareness.
"All guts and no brains", similar to the first one. This would be a play on the idiom "All brawn and no brains" quote by JFK (which I can't find a link to, sorry).
answered Jul 18 '17 at 15:54
Ian
1567
A few possible idioms that come to mind are:
"Rushing in where angels fear to tread" (line from Alexander Pope, leaving implicit that the rushing is done by a fool). This seems better than "jumping in the deep end", which speaks more of courage than clueless bravado. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fools_rush_in_where_angels_fear_to_tread
"Like a bull in a china store", implying a total and inexcusable lack of awareness.
"All guts and no brains", similar to the first one. This would be a play on the idiom "All brawn and no brains" quote by JFK (which I can't find a link to, sorry).
answered Jul 18 '17 at 15:54
Ian
1567
answered Jul 18 '17 at 15:54
Ian
1567
answered Jul 18 '17 at 15:54
Ian
1567
answered Jul 18 '17 at 15:54
Ian
1567
1567
Also, "jumping in head first". Similar to jumping in the deep end. Both are used to mean one of 2 things: either "think before you leap" OR "just go for it" (without the negative connotation that you haven't thought it through)
– Kace36
Jul 18 '17 at 23:46
add a comment |
Also, "jumping in head first". Similar to jumping in the deep end. Both are used to mean one of 2 things: either "think before you leap" OR "just go for it" (without the negative connotation that you haven't thought it through)
– Kace36
Jul 18 '17 at 23:46
Also, "jumping in head first". Similar to jumping in the deep end. Both are used to mean one of 2 things: either "think before you leap" OR "just go for it" (without the negative connotation that you haven't thought it through)
– Kace36
Jul 18 '17 at 23:46
Also, "jumping in head first". Similar to jumping in the deep end. Both are used to mean one of 2 things: either "think before you leap" OR "just go for it" (without the negative connotation that you haven't thought it through)
– Kace36
Jul 18 '17 at 23:46
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I think "jumping in at the deep end" and "going in blind" are valid, they both connote a lack of awareness of what the protagonist faces and, by extension, imply some recklessness. Of these, the former addresses the potential recklessness more clearly, with its implications of drowning. Can you explain why neither of these answers suffice?
– glytching
Jul 18 '17 at 15:51
This might be useful, english.stackexchange.com/questions/38103/…
– Steve Lovell
Jul 18 '17 at 17:07
Next time could you leave out all before "… something like 'going into a gunfight empty-handed' or 'taking an exam without studying…" and start with something useful, please?
– Robbie Goodwin
2 hours ago
Further, when 'Jumping in the deep end' or 'Going in blind' are close; when what you meant to say sounded like going to recklessly commit yourself into something while being ignorant of what you're about to (any sense or whatever)... but it still doesn't sound right, what does it sound like?
– Robbie Goodwin
2 hours ago