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I have a couple of questions to answer, and I am unsure if i argue correctly:



Given two vectors a, b with only strictly positive coordinates, can those two vectors be orthogonal?
My answer would be no. As §=0§ this can only be the case if all ab-coordinates are 0, which is not the case bc the coordinates have to be strictly positive, so in ordered to get to 0 some ab products have to be negative.



Can ca and db be orthogonal, for c,d elements of R.



No if a b are not orthogonal? I’m not sure if this question refers to the question above....my second question would be if c and d are 0 would also be 0 would this be than count as orthogonal??



How many vectors build a orthonormal basis in $R^n$ - n



How many of these vectors (of the basis above) can have strictly positive Coordinates, how many strictly negative?



I would guess only 1, bc if all vectors are orthogonal than there can be only one with strictly positive coordinates..



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    In your second question, yes, if $c=d=0$ then $ca$ and $bd$ are orthogonal; indeed, the zero vector is always orthogonal to everything. There are other possibilities though; what if $c=-d$ for example?
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I have a couple of questions to answer, and I am unsure if i argue correctly:



Given two vectors a, b with only strictly positive coordinates, can those two vectors be orthogonal?
My answer would be no. As §=0§ this can only be the case if all ab-coordinates are 0, which is not the case bc the coordinates have to be strictly positive, so in ordered to get to 0 some ab products have to be negative.



Can ca and db be orthogonal, for c,d elements of R.



No if a b are not orthogonal? I’m not sure if this question refers to the question above....my second question would be if c and d are 0 would also be 0 would this be than count as orthogonal??



How many vectors build a orthonormal basis in $R^n$ - n



How many of these vectors (of the basis above) can have strictly positive Coordinates, how many strictly negative?



I would guess only 1, bc if all vectors are orthogonal than there can be only one with strictly positive coordinates..



Many thanks for your help!!










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    In your second question, yes, if $c=d=0$ then $ca$ and $bd$ are orthogonal; indeed, the zero vector is always orthogonal to everything. There are other possibilities though; what if $c=-d$ for example?
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I have a couple of questions to answer, and I am unsure if i argue correctly:



Given two vectors a, b with only strictly positive coordinates, can those two vectors be orthogonal?
My answer would be no. As §=0§ this can only be the case if all ab-coordinates are 0, which is not the case bc the coordinates have to be strictly positive, so in ordered to get to 0 some ab products have to be negative.



Can ca and db be orthogonal, for c,d elements of R.



No if a b are not orthogonal? I’m not sure if this question refers to the question above....my second question would be if c and d are 0 would also be 0 would this be than count as orthogonal??



How many vectors build a orthonormal basis in $R^n$ - n



How many of these vectors (of the basis above) can have strictly positive Coordinates, how many strictly negative?



I would guess only 1, bc if all vectors are orthogonal than there can be only one with strictly positive coordinates..



Many thanks for your help!!










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I have a couple of questions to answer, and I am unsure if i argue correctly:



Given two vectors a, b with only strictly positive coordinates, can those two vectors be orthogonal?
My answer would be no. As §=0§ this can only be the case if all ab-coordinates are 0, which is not the case bc the coordinates have to be strictly positive, so in ordered to get to 0 some ab products have to be negative.



Can ca and db be orthogonal, for c,d elements of R.



No if a b are not orthogonal? I’m not sure if this question refers to the question above....my second question would be if c and d are 0 would also be 0 would this be than count as orthogonal??



How many vectors build a orthonormal basis in $R^n$ - n



How many of these vectors (of the basis above) can have strictly positive Coordinates, how many strictly negative?



I would guess only 1, bc if all vectors are orthogonal than there can be only one with strictly positive coordinates..



Many thanks for your help!!







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    In your second question, yes, if $c=d=0$ then $ca$ and $bd$ are orthogonal; indeed, the zero vector is always orthogonal to everything. There are other possibilities though; what if $c=-d$ for example?
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    In your second question, yes, if $c=d=0$ then $ca$ and $bd$ are orthogonal; indeed, the zero vector is always orthogonal to everything. There are other possibilities though; what if $c=-d$ for example?
    – Greg Martin
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In your second question, yes, if $c=d=0$ then $ca$ and $bd$ are orthogonal; indeed, the zero vector is always orthogonal to everything. There are other possibilities though; what if $c=-d$ for example?
– Greg Martin
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In your second question, yes, if $c=d=0$ then $ca$ and $bd$ are orthogonal; indeed, the zero vector is always orthogonal to everything. There are other possibilities though; what if $c=-d$ for example?
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$cvec a$ and $dvec b$ are orthogonal for non-orthogonal vectors $vec a,vec b$ iff $c=0$ or $d=0$.



This is because:



$1| cvec acdot dvec b=0implies cd=0 (vec acdotvec bne0)$



$2| cd=0implies cdcdot(vec acdotvec b)=0implies cvec acdot dvec b=0$



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    If the coordinates are strictly positive, they cannot be $0$! Therefore, the dot product between the two vectors is always a sum of positive products, so it is never $0$.



    The second question is asking whether, if you multiply each vector by a real number, it is possible that the vectors are orthogonal ($(ctextbf{a}) cdot (dtextbf{b}) = 0$). Using the properties of the dot product, because $ctextbf{a} cdot dtextbf{b} = cd(textbf{a} cdot textbf{b})$, and because $textbf{a} cdot textbf{b} neq 0$, the answer is no unless one of $c$ and $d$ is $0$.



    The rest of your analysis makes sense and can be verified using similar properties.






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      $cvec a$ and $dvec b$ are orthogonal for non-orthogonal vectors $vec a,vec b$ iff $c=0$ or $d=0$.



      This is because:



      $1| cvec acdot dvec b=0implies cd=0 (vec acdotvec bne0)$



      $2| cd=0implies cdcdot(vec acdotvec b)=0implies cvec acdot dvec b=0$



      Your answers and reasoning are fine.






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        $cvec a$ and $dvec b$ are orthogonal for non-orthogonal vectors $vec a,vec b$ iff $c=0$ or $d=0$.



        This is because:



        $1| cvec acdot dvec b=0implies cd=0 (vec acdotvec bne0)$



        $2| cd=0implies cdcdot(vec acdotvec b)=0implies cvec acdot dvec b=0$



        Your answers and reasoning are fine.






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          $cvec a$ and $dvec b$ are orthogonal for non-orthogonal vectors $vec a,vec b$ iff $c=0$ or $d=0$.



          This is because:



          $1| cvec acdot dvec b=0implies cd=0 (vec acdotvec bne0)$



          $2| cd=0implies cdcdot(vec acdotvec b)=0implies cvec acdot dvec b=0$



          Your answers and reasoning are fine.






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          $cvec a$ and $dvec b$ are orthogonal for non-orthogonal vectors $vec a,vec b$ iff $c=0$ or $d=0$.



          This is because:



          $1| cvec acdot dvec b=0implies cd=0 (vec acdotvec bne0)$



          $2| cd=0implies cdcdot(vec acdotvec b)=0implies cvec acdot dvec b=0$



          Your answers and reasoning are fine.







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              If the coordinates are strictly positive, they cannot be $0$! Therefore, the dot product between the two vectors is always a sum of positive products, so it is never $0$.



              The second question is asking whether, if you multiply each vector by a real number, it is possible that the vectors are orthogonal ($(ctextbf{a}) cdot (dtextbf{b}) = 0$). Using the properties of the dot product, because $ctextbf{a} cdot dtextbf{b} = cd(textbf{a} cdot textbf{b})$, and because $textbf{a} cdot textbf{b} neq 0$, the answer is no unless one of $c$ and $d$ is $0$.



              The rest of your analysis makes sense and can be verified using similar properties.






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                If the coordinates are strictly positive, they cannot be $0$! Therefore, the dot product between the two vectors is always a sum of positive products, so it is never $0$.



                The second question is asking whether, if you multiply each vector by a real number, it is possible that the vectors are orthogonal ($(ctextbf{a}) cdot (dtextbf{b}) = 0$). Using the properties of the dot product, because $ctextbf{a} cdot dtextbf{b} = cd(textbf{a} cdot textbf{b})$, and because $textbf{a} cdot textbf{b} neq 0$, the answer is no unless one of $c$ and $d$ is $0$.



                The rest of your analysis makes sense and can be verified using similar properties.






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                  If the coordinates are strictly positive, they cannot be $0$! Therefore, the dot product between the two vectors is always a sum of positive products, so it is never $0$.



                  The second question is asking whether, if you multiply each vector by a real number, it is possible that the vectors are orthogonal ($(ctextbf{a}) cdot (dtextbf{b}) = 0$). Using the properties of the dot product, because $ctextbf{a} cdot dtextbf{b} = cd(textbf{a} cdot textbf{b})$, and because $textbf{a} cdot textbf{b} neq 0$, the answer is no unless one of $c$ and $d$ is $0$.



                  The rest of your analysis makes sense and can be verified using similar properties.






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                  If the coordinates are strictly positive, they cannot be $0$! Therefore, the dot product between the two vectors is always a sum of positive products, so it is never $0$.



                  The second question is asking whether, if you multiply each vector by a real number, it is possible that the vectors are orthogonal ($(ctextbf{a}) cdot (dtextbf{b}) = 0$). Using the properties of the dot product, because $ctextbf{a} cdot dtextbf{b} = cd(textbf{a} cdot textbf{b})$, and because $textbf{a} cdot textbf{b} neq 0$, the answer is no unless one of $c$ and $d$ is $0$.



                  The rest of your analysis makes sense and can be verified using similar properties.







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