Combining “who’ve” and “whom” together
I am trying to phrase a statement such as:
Based on the people I have seen and research that I have read
from them.
I was trying to shorten it as:
Based on the people I have seen and research whom I read.
But then it sounded like I wanted to combine who’ve and whom.
I am a
native English speaker but not good with grammar, so I
often have a strange instinct of something sounding right or wrong, and
it is often incorrect.
Just for context, this was being written in a space with a
character limit, which is why the focus on shortening it (it
wasn’t to shorten for clarity).
Is this type of sentence an example of some use or some rule
that exists?
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I am trying to phrase a statement such as:
Based on the people I have seen and research that I have read
from them.
I was trying to shorten it as:
Based on the people I have seen and research whom I read.
But then it sounded like I wanted to combine who’ve and whom.
I am a
native English speaker but not good with grammar, so I
often have a strange instinct of something sounding right or wrong, and
it is often incorrect.
Just for context, this was being written in a space with a
character limit, which is why the focus on shortening it (it
wasn’t to shorten for clarity).
Is this type of sentence an example of some use or some rule
that exists?
contractions syntactic-analysis relative-pronouns whom clipping
edited 1 hour ago
tchrist♦
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asked 4 hours ago
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I would say "and whose research I have read". I can't see the relevance of "who've" at all.
– Colin Fine
3 hours ago
@ColinFine the 'who've' would be for, of "who I have" read. Does that not work?
– user1938107
3 hours ago
No, it doesn't. "Who've" is a contraction of "who have". I have never heard it for "Who I've", and I doubt I would understand it in that sense.
– Colin Fine
3 hours ago
@ColinFine , thanks for the clarification. I guess that is the answer... I can't make combined contractions of Who've and I've. I was hoping there was some way to do that.
– user1938107
3 hours ago
1
If you’re not interested in preserving the exact meaning then “... and their research” is shortest.
– Laurel
3 hours ago
add a comment |
I am trying to phrase a statement such as:
Based on the people I have seen and research that I have read
from them.
I was trying to shorten it as:
Based on the people I have seen and research whom I read.
But then it sounded like I wanted to combine who’ve and whom.
I am a
native English speaker but not good with grammar, so I
often have a strange instinct of something sounding right or wrong, and
it is often incorrect.
Just for context, this was being written in a space with a
character limit, which is why the focus on shortening it (it
wasn’t to shorten for clarity).
Is this type of sentence an example of some use or some rule
that exists?
contractions syntactic-analysis relative-pronouns whom clipping
edited 1 hour ago
tchrist♦
108k28290463
asked 4 hours ago
user1938107
14713
I am trying to phrase a statement such as:
Based on the people I have seen and research that I have read
from them.
I was trying to shorten it as:
Based on the people I have seen and research whom I read.
But then it sounded like I wanted to combine who’ve and whom.
I am a
native English speaker but not good with grammar, so I
often have a strange instinct of something sounding right or wrong, and
it is often incorrect.
Just for context, this was being written in a space with a
character limit, which is why the focus on shortening it (it
wasn’t to shorten for clarity).
Is this type of sentence an example of some use or some rule
that exists?
contractions syntactic-analysis relative-pronouns whom clipping
contractions syntactic-analysis relative-pronouns whom clipping
edited 1 hour ago
tchrist♦
108k28290463
asked 4 hours ago
user1938107
14713
edited 1 hour ago
tchrist♦
108k28290463
asked 4 hours ago
user1938107
14713
edited 1 hour ago
tchrist♦
108k28290463
edited 1 hour ago
tchrist♦
108k28290463
edited 1 hour ago
tchrist♦
108k28290463
108k28290463
asked 4 hours ago
user1938107
14713
asked 4 hours ago
user1938107
14713
asked 4 hours ago
user1938107
14713
14713
2
I would say "and whose research I have read". I can't see the relevance of "who've" at all.
– Colin Fine
3 hours ago
@ColinFine the 'who've' would be for, of "who I have" read. Does that not work?
– user1938107
3 hours ago
No, it doesn't. "Who've" is a contraction of "who have". I have never heard it for "Who I've", and I doubt I would understand it in that sense.
– Colin Fine
3 hours ago
@ColinFine , thanks for the clarification. I guess that is the answer... I can't make combined contractions of Who've and I've. I was hoping there was some way to do that.
– user1938107
3 hours ago
1
If you’re not interested in preserving the exact meaning then “... and their research” is shortest.
– Laurel
3 hours ago
add a comment |
2
I would say "and whose research I have read". I can't see the relevance of "who've" at all.
– Colin Fine
3 hours ago
@ColinFine the 'who've' would be for, of "who I have" read. Does that not work?
– user1938107
3 hours ago
No, it doesn't. "Who've" is a contraction of "who have". I have never heard it for "Who I've", and I doubt I would understand it in that sense.
– Colin Fine
3 hours ago
@ColinFine , thanks for the clarification. I guess that is the answer... I can't make combined contractions of Who've and I've. I was hoping there was some way to do that.
– user1938107
3 hours ago
1
If you’re not interested in preserving the exact meaning then “... and their research” is shortest.
– Laurel
3 hours ago
2
2
I would say "and whose research I have read". I can't see the relevance of "who've" at all.
– Colin Fine
3 hours ago
I would say "and whose research I have read". I can't see the relevance of "who've" at all.
– Colin Fine
3 hours ago
@ColinFine the 'who've' would be for, of "who I have" read. Does that not work?
– user1938107
3 hours ago
@ColinFine the 'who've' would be for, of "who I have" read. Does that not work?
– user1938107
3 hours ago
No, it doesn't. "Who've" is a contraction of "who have". I have never heard it for "Who I've", and I doubt I would understand it in that sense.
– Colin Fine
3 hours ago
No, it doesn't. "Who've" is a contraction of "who have". I have never heard it for "Who I've", and I doubt I would understand it in that sense.
– Colin Fine
3 hours ago
@ColinFine , thanks for the clarification. I guess that is the answer... I can't make combined contractions of Who've and I've. I was hoping there was some way to do that.
– user1938107
3 hours ago
@ColinFine , thanks for the clarification. I guess that is the answer... I can't make combined contractions of Who've and I've. I was hoping there was some way to do that.
– user1938107
3 hours ago
1
1
If you’re not interested in preserving the exact meaning then “... and their research” is shortest.
– Laurel
3 hours ago
If you’re not interested in preserving the exact meaning then “... and their research” is shortest.
– Laurel
3 hours ago
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I would say "and whose research I have read". I can't see the relevance of "who've" at all.
– Colin Fine
3 hours ago
@ColinFine the 'who've' would be for, of "who I have" read. Does that not work?
– user1938107
3 hours ago
No, it doesn't. "Who've" is a contraction of "who have". I have never heard it for "Who I've", and I doubt I would understand it in that sense.
– Colin Fine
3 hours ago
@ColinFine , thanks for the clarification. I guess that is the answer... I can't make combined contractions of Who've and I've. I was hoping there was some way to do that.
– user1938107
3 hours ago
1
If you’re not interested in preserving the exact meaning then “... and their research” is shortest.
– Laurel
3 hours ago