How can you humanize infanticide?
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The world is surrounded by an alternate realm called the spirit world. Humans existed as separate physical entities, but maintain an attachment to the spirit realm due to their connection with god. When a child is ready to be born, it must pass through the spirit world into the physical.
There are malevolent spirits in the other world that seek to corrupt the child while it is developing. Runes are placed on the mother to act as a barrier of protection to prevent this. However, runes must be reapplied periodically and are not foolproof. Therefore, it is possible for a fetus to be affected by these spirits and develop deformities (extra eyes, tentacles for arms, horns, etc). These children can be born prematurely, and risk killing the mother.
These children are not born evil, but are treated with suspicion by the world due to their "impure" taint. In the few places they are tolerated, they exist on the fringes and often become a self fulfilling prophecy. In many other places, such as this democratic nation, they are simply killed after being examined.
Killing children is a taboo, and people reading it may say "author thinks we should kill deformed kids because reasons". How can you portray this in a less negative or at least sympathetic, light to avoid this?
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The world is surrounded by an alternate realm called the spirit world. Humans existed as separate physical entities, but maintain an attachment to the spirit realm due to their connection with god. When a child is ready to be born, it must pass through the spirit world into the physical.
There are malevolent spirits in the other world that seek to corrupt the child while it is developing. Runes are placed on the mother to act as a barrier of protection to prevent this. However, runes must be reapplied periodically and are not foolproof. Therefore, it is possible for a fetus to be affected by these spirits and develop deformities (extra eyes, tentacles for arms, horns, etc). These children can be born prematurely, and risk killing the mother.
These children are not born evil, but are treated with suspicion by the world due to their "impure" taint. In the few places they are tolerated, they exist on the fringes and often become a self fulfilling prophecy. In many other places, such as this democratic nation, they are simply killed after being examined.
Killing children is a taboo, and people reading it may say "author thinks we should kill deformed kids because reasons". How can you portray this in a less negative or at least sympathetic, light to avoid this?
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This is a difficult question to answer, the more I think about it the more it echoes current bigotries; like racism, homophobia, anti-semitism, anti-islam or anti-arab or anti-immigrant and real-life demonization of those that look, sound, or believe differently, as an excuse to exclude them or go to war with them. I think the risk is more than "killing deformed kids because reasons", I think the risk of writing this in the current political climate is the author can be vilified for metaphorically endorsing violence and ostracization for all kinds of "not like us" bigotries "for reasons".
– Amadeus
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In fact, there are tribes in Central Africa (don't remember more specific details) who kill children whose lower teeth grow before their upper teeth. Those children are considered "demon children" who "bring bad luck to all the village". It's just as horrendous as it sounds - nothing sympathetic about it. There's a recent initiative to take those children away instead, but there's already been attacks on those who try this route - just having the children alive somewhere is considered potential for "bad luck" for the whole tribe.
– Galastel
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There's a really crucial distinction to make here: do you want readers to be on-board with the practice, or do you want them going omg that's awful, although I do understand these people are misguided rather than evil? Those are two vastly different reactions.
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The world is surrounded by an alternate realm called the spirit world. Humans existed as separate physical entities, but maintain an attachment to the spirit realm due to their connection with god. When a child is ready to be born, it must pass through the spirit world into the physical.
There are malevolent spirits in the other world that seek to corrupt the child while it is developing. Runes are placed on the mother to act as a barrier of protection to prevent this. However, runes must be reapplied periodically and are not foolproof. Therefore, it is possible for a fetus to be affected by these spirits and develop deformities (extra eyes, tentacles for arms, horns, etc). These children can be born prematurely, and risk killing the mother.
These children are not born evil, but are treated with suspicion by the world due to their "impure" taint. In the few places they are tolerated, they exist on the fringes and often become a self fulfilling prophecy. In many other places, such as this democratic nation, they are simply killed after being examined.
Killing children is a taboo, and people reading it may say "author thinks we should kill deformed kids because reasons". How can you portray this in a less negative or at least sympathetic, light to avoid this?
creative-writing ethics
The world is surrounded by an alternate realm called the spirit world. Humans existed as separate physical entities, but maintain an attachment to the spirit realm due to their connection with god. When a child is ready to be born, it must pass through the spirit world into the physical.
There are malevolent spirits in the other world that seek to corrupt the child while it is developing. Runes are placed on the mother to act as a barrier of protection to prevent this. However, runes must be reapplied periodically and are not foolproof. Therefore, it is possible for a fetus to be affected by these spirits and develop deformities (extra eyes, tentacles for arms, horns, etc). These children can be born prematurely, and risk killing the mother.
These children are not born evil, but are treated with suspicion by the world due to their "impure" taint. In the few places they are tolerated, they exist on the fringes and often become a self fulfilling prophecy. In many other places, such as this democratic nation, they are simply killed after being examined.
Killing children is a taboo, and people reading it may say "author thinks we should kill deformed kids because reasons". How can you portray this in a less negative or at least sympathetic, light to avoid this?
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This is a difficult question to answer, the more I think about it the more it echoes current bigotries; like racism, homophobia, anti-semitism, anti-islam or anti-arab or anti-immigrant and real-life demonization of those that look, sound, or believe differently, as an excuse to exclude them or go to war with them. I think the risk is more than "killing deformed kids because reasons", I think the risk of writing this in the current political climate is the author can be vilified for metaphorically endorsing violence and ostracization for all kinds of "not like us" bigotries "for reasons".
– Amadeus
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In fact, there are tribes in Central Africa (don't remember more specific details) who kill children whose lower teeth grow before their upper teeth. Those children are considered "demon children" who "bring bad luck to all the village". It's just as horrendous as it sounds - nothing sympathetic about it. There's a recent initiative to take those children away instead, but there's already been attacks on those who try this route - just having the children alive somewhere is considered potential for "bad luck" for the whole tribe.
– Galastel
2 hours ago
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There's a really crucial distinction to make here: do you want readers to be on-board with the practice, or do you want them going omg that's awful, although I do understand these people are misguided rather than evil? Those are two vastly different reactions.
– Standback
1 hour ago
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This is a difficult question to answer, the more I think about it the more it echoes current bigotries; like racism, homophobia, anti-semitism, anti-islam or anti-arab or anti-immigrant and real-life demonization of those that look, sound, or believe differently, as an excuse to exclude them or go to war with them. I think the risk is more than "killing deformed kids because reasons", I think the risk of writing this in the current political climate is the author can be vilified for metaphorically endorsing violence and ostracization for all kinds of "not like us" bigotries "for reasons".
– Amadeus
2 hours ago
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In fact, there are tribes in Central Africa (don't remember more specific details) who kill children whose lower teeth grow before their upper teeth. Those children are considered "demon children" who "bring bad luck to all the village". It's just as horrendous as it sounds - nothing sympathetic about it. There's a recent initiative to take those children away instead, but there's already been attacks on those who try this route - just having the children alive somewhere is considered potential for "bad luck" for the whole tribe.
– Galastel
2 hours ago
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There's a really crucial distinction to make here: do you want readers to be on-board with the practice, or do you want them going omg that's awful, although I do understand these people are misguided rather than evil? Those are two vastly different reactions.
– Standback
1 hour ago
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This is a difficult question to answer, the more I think about it the more it echoes current bigotries; like racism, homophobia, anti-semitism, anti-islam or anti-arab or anti-immigrant and real-life demonization of those that look, sound, or believe differently, as an excuse to exclude them or go to war with them. I think the risk is more than "killing deformed kids because reasons", I think the risk of writing this in the current political climate is the author can be vilified for metaphorically endorsing violence and ostracization for all kinds of "not like us" bigotries "for reasons".
– Amadeus
2 hours ago
This is a difficult question to answer, the more I think about it the more it echoes current bigotries; like racism, homophobia, anti-semitism, anti-islam or anti-arab or anti-immigrant and real-life demonization of those that look, sound, or believe differently, as an excuse to exclude them or go to war with them. I think the risk is more than "killing deformed kids because reasons", I think the risk of writing this in the current political climate is the author can be vilified for metaphorically endorsing violence and ostracization for all kinds of "not like us" bigotries "for reasons".
– Amadeus
2 hours ago
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In fact, there are tribes in Central Africa (don't remember more specific details) who kill children whose lower teeth grow before their upper teeth. Those children are considered "demon children" who "bring bad luck to all the village". It's just as horrendous as it sounds - nothing sympathetic about it. There's a recent initiative to take those children away instead, but there's already been attacks on those who try this route - just having the children alive somewhere is considered potential for "bad luck" for the whole tribe.
– Galastel
2 hours ago
In fact, there are tribes in Central Africa (don't remember more specific details) who kill children whose lower teeth grow before their upper teeth. Those children are considered "demon children" who "bring bad luck to all the village". It's just as horrendous as it sounds - nothing sympathetic about it. There's a recent initiative to take those children away instead, but there's already been attacks on those who try this route - just having the children alive somewhere is considered potential for "bad luck" for the whole tribe.
– Galastel
2 hours ago
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There's a really crucial distinction to make here: do you want readers to be on-board with the practice, or do you want them going omg that's awful, although I do understand these people are misguided rather than evil? Those are two vastly different reactions.
– Standback
1 hour ago
There's a really crucial distinction to make here: do you want readers to be on-board with the practice, or do you want them going omg that's awful, although I do understand these people are misguided rather than evil? Those are two vastly different reactions.
– Standback
1 hour ago
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You won't be able to portray it in a less negative way, unless you try to really force your hand on the "good vs evil" theme, and even then you would raise eyebrows.
You stated that those children are not born evil, so we are already on a different track.
First of all, consider that one of the common and (imho) best practices is to prioritize the wellbeing of the mother over the wellbeing of the newborn (opinions may differ, but we're not here to discuss this).
If those mutated newborns are a danger for the mother, you've got a problem before the actual birth. The best you can do in those cases is to read how/when termination of pregnancy is done in our society, and compare with how/when it could be done in your alternate setting.
Another thing you have to consider is the actual survival rate of the mutated children; are they generally lower or higher? Do those mutated humans experience severe lack of phisical skills, or chronic pain? Is there a way for the doctor to estimate it? It's relevant since at this stage it does weight on the decision.
You already mentioned runes, so I imagine they could be further applied to this delicate area.
After the babies are born, you'll have an harder time making their killing "sympathetic". While in another time the killing of newborn babies was somewhat a last resort practice in other eras (think about the classical "leaving a baby in the woods" when a family could not feed him), the more modern you'll go and the more the reader will confront your in-world ethics with ours.
Moreover, there will be always the risk of readers seeing an allegory where there is none, and that's a problem in itself.
What you can do is to show how the ethics in your society are different, and yet problematic. To do this well, you have to present different arguments and counter-arguments to the topic, without clearly parading from one of them.
- The parents will bond with their child, no matter if it's deformed. They will suffer the decision of killing it, even if their society always taught them not to.
- Some of the corrupted babies reach adulthood. Some are "evil". Some will likely campaign about how harder is for them to live at the margin of society.
- Some humans will find the practice of killing babies barbaric, no matter what.
- Some others will have strong hate (from xenophobic reasons to religious to personal) towards the corruption, and will defend even harsher measures against it.
- Some of the corrupted babies will live a life in pain. Some will be able to live normally. Some will act "evil", some won't.
As a writer, you have the duty to present every side of the issue fairly, without parading for one or the other. You may be tempted to reach out to the reader and say: "Look, I know killing newborns is bad, but here they have reasons". The reader will understand why it happens in your setting if you show it, but they won't like be schooled or spoonfeeded about it.
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Infanticide has been a part of many cultures and children seen as deformed or unlikely to survive would be left to die of exposure. It was a fact of life that no one need like, but it was done as there was no real alternative. The series Vikings had an episode where Ragnar takes his crippled infant son out to leave him, but has second thoughts and brings him back.
The weak were rarely permitted to drain the resources of the family. In the scenario you describe, such tainted children could be seen as potential connections to a darker god and a danger to all.
In Zelanzny’s This Immortal, the protagonist was left to die because of the day on which he was born, which according to his culture made him dangerous. Not all infants left to die do as others sometimes encounter them and adopt them - Oedipus for example.
Show the parents fear of the infant and fear for the harsh life he or she would have if left to live. A potential threat to society and marginalized - essentially a leper. It could be seen as a desperate act of love - ‘Can’t let this sweet babe suffer, so goodbye and better luck next time’ and then the parent kills the child to prevent his future suffering.
The doctor or whoever examined the infant to determine if they are worthy of life can be shown to dislike this aspect of life, but understand that preventing pain is a good thing. Living on the margins, looking like some kind of demon, the child was damned from the start.
Statistics showing the propensity for such a child to go dark - because of ostracism - would be given and mention of some of the more dangerous among them whose parents had hidden them away rather than do the responsible thing. Society demands what it demands.
In China, under the one child rule, many daughters were left to die so the parents could have a son to pass on the family name. Such sons had difficulty finding wives as many hadn’t been allowed to live.
Life can be dark and almost anything can have a reason or rationalization. Make it necessary and the reader will accept it.
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Well, ask your average Christian or Muslim apologist; they work really hard to justify infanticide and genocide. Their general tactic is to emphasise context over and over again, or claim that somehow the killings were a favour to the children (sending them 'straight to heaven').
If it can happen in the real world and at least 40% of Americans (occupants of a developed nation) can swallow the claims as the actions of a perfectly good god, then I assure you, some of your readers will be able to swallow the excuse. Though you may have to get them invested in the world you're writing (just as Christians and Muslims are very invested in the Bible/Quran), once you have their attention, you can convince people that just about anything is moral.
I'm not aware of any modern Christian apologists for infanticide, though I'm aware of plenty who are not only extremely against it, but consider abortion to be equivalent to it. (I know nothing of Islam, but they don't seem particularly in favor of it.) Do you have some examples of this?
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You won't be able to portray it in a less negative way, unless you try to really force your hand on the "good vs evil" theme, and even then you would raise eyebrows.
You stated that those children are not born evil, so we are already on a different track.
First of all, consider that one of the common and (imho) best practices is to prioritize the wellbeing of the mother over the wellbeing of the newborn (opinions may differ, but we're not here to discuss this).
If those mutated newborns are a danger for the mother, you've got a problem before the actual birth. The best you can do in those cases is to read how/when termination of pregnancy is done in our society, and compare with how/when it could be done in your alternate setting.
Another thing you have to consider is the actual survival rate of the mutated children; are they generally lower or higher? Do those mutated humans experience severe lack of phisical skills, or chronic pain? Is there a way for the doctor to estimate it? It's relevant since at this stage it does weight on the decision.
You already mentioned runes, so I imagine they could be further applied to this delicate area.
After the babies are born, you'll have an harder time making their killing "sympathetic". While in another time the killing of newborn babies was somewhat a last resort practice in other eras (think about the classical "leaving a baby in the woods" when a family could not feed him), the more modern you'll go and the more the reader will confront your in-world ethics with ours.
Moreover, there will be always the risk of readers seeing an allegory where there is none, and that's a problem in itself.
What you can do is to show how the ethics in your society are different, and yet problematic. To do this well, you have to present different arguments and counter-arguments to the topic, without clearly parading from one of them.
- The parents will bond with their child, no matter if it's deformed. They will suffer the decision of killing it, even if their society always taught them not to.
- Some of the corrupted babies reach adulthood. Some are "evil". Some will likely campaign about how harder is for them to live at the margin of society.
- Some humans will find the practice of killing babies barbaric, no matter what.
- Some others will have strong hate (from xenophobic reasons to religious to personal) towards the corruption, and will defend even harsher measures against it.
- Some of the corrupted babies will live a life in pain. Some will be able to live normally. Some will act "evil", some won't.
As a writer, you have the duty to present every side of the issue fairly, without parading for one or the other. You may be tempted to reach out to the reader and say: "Look, I know killing newborns is bad, but here they have reasons". The reader will understand why it happens in your setting if you show it, but they won't like be schooled or spoonfeeded about it.
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You won't be able to portray it in a less negative way, unless you try to really force your hand on the "good vs evil" theme, and even then you would raise eyebrows.
You stated that those children are not born evil, so we are already on a different track.
First of all, consider that one of the common and (imho) best practices is to prioritize the wellbeing of the mother over the wellbeing of the newborn (opinions may differ, but we're not here to discuss this).
If those mutated newborns are a danger for the mother, you've got a problem before the actual birth. The best you can do in those cases is to read how/when termination of pregnancy is done in our society, and compare with how/when it could be done in your alternate setting.
Another thing you have to consider is the actual survival rate of the mutated children; are they generally lower or higher? Do those mutated humans experience severe lack of phisical skills, or chronic pain? Is there a way for the doctor to estimate it? It's relevant since at this stage it does weight on the decision.
You already mentioned runes, so I imagine they could be further applied to this delicate area.
After the babies are born, you'll have an harder time making their killing "sympathetic". While in another time the killing of newborn babies was somewhat a last resort practice in other eras (think about the classical "leaving a baby in the woods" when a family could not feed him), the more modern you'll go and the more the reader will confront your in-world ethics with ours.
Moreover, there will be always the risk of readers seeing an allegory where there is none, and that's a problem in itself.
What you can do is to show how the ethics in your society are different, and yet problematic. To do this well, you have to present different arguments and counter-arguments to the topic, without clearly parading from one of them.
- The parents will bond with their child, no matter if it's deformed. They will suffer the decision of killing it, even if their society always taught them not to.
- Some of the corrupted babies reach adulthood. Some are "evil". Some will likely campaign about how harder is for them to live at the margin of society.
- Some humans will find the practice of killing babies barbaric, no matter what.
- Some others will have strong hate (from xenophobic reasons to religious to personal) towards the corruption, and will defend even harsher measures against it.
- Some of the corrupted babies will live a life in pain. Some will be able to live normally. Some will act "evil", some won't.
As a writer, you have the duty to present every side of the issue fairly, without parading for one or the other. You may be tempted to reach out to the reader and say: "Look, I know killing newborns is bad, but here they have reasons". The reader will understand why it happens in your setting if you show it, but they won't like be schooled or spoonfeeded about it.
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You won't be able to portray it in a less negative way, unless you try to really force your hand on the "good vs evil" theme, and even then you would raise eyebrows.
You stated that those children are not born evil, so we are already on a different track.
First of all, consider that one of the common and (imho) best practices is to prioritize the wellbeing of the mother over the wellbeing of the newborn (opinions may differ, but we're not here to discuss this).
If those mutated newborns are a danger for the mother, you've got a problem before the actual birth. The best you can do in those cases is to read how/when termination of pregnancy is done in our society, and compare with how/when it could be done in your alternate setting.
Another thing you have to consider is the actual survival rate of the mutated children; are they generally lower or higher? Do those mutated humans experience severe lack of phisical skills, or chronic pain? Is there a way for the doctor to estimate it? It's relevant since at this stage it does weight on the decision.
You already mentioned runes, so I imagine they could be further applied to this delicate area.
After the babies are born, you'll have an harder time making their killing "sympathetic". While in another time the killing of newborn babies was somewhat a last resort practice in other eras (think about the classical "leaving a baby in the woods" when a family could not feed him), the more modern you'll go and the more the reader will confront your in-world ethics with ours.
Moreover, there will be always the risk of readers seeing an allegory where there is none, and that's a problem in itself.
What you can do is to show how the ethics in your society are different, and yet problematic. To do this well, you have to present different arguments and counter-arguments to the topic, without clearly parading from one of them.
- The parents will bond with their child, no matter if it's deformed. They will suffer the decision of killing it, even if their society always taught them not to.
- Some of the corrupted babies reach adulthood. Some are "evil". Some will likely campaign about how harder is for them to live at the margin of society.
- Some humans will find the practice of killing babies barbaric, no matter what.
- Some others will have strong hate (from xenophobic reasons to religious to personal) towards the corruption, and will defend even harsher measures against it.
- Some of the corrupted babies will live a life in pain. Some will be able to live normally. Some will act "evil", some won't.
As a writer, you have the duty to present every side of the issue fairly, without parading for one or the other. You may be tempted to reach out to the reader and say: "Look, I know killing newborns is bad, but here they have reasons". The reader will understand why it happens in your setting if you show it, but they won't like be schooled or spoonfeeded about it.
You won't be able to portray it in a less negative way, unless you try to really force your hand on the "good vs evil" theme, and even then you would raise eyebrows.
You stated that those children are not born evil, so we are already on a different track.
First of all, consider that one of the common and (imho) best practices is to prioritize the wellbeing of the mother over the wellbeing of the newborn (opinions may differ, but we're not here to discuss this).
If those mutated newborns are a danger for the mother, you've got a problem before the actual birth. The best you can do in those cases is to read how/when termination of pregnancy is done in our society, and compare with how/when it could be done in your alternate setting.
Another thing you have to consider is the actual survival rate of the mutated children; are they generally lower or higher? Do those mutated humans experience severe lack of phisical skills, or chronic pain? Is there a way for the doctor to estimate it? It's relevant since at this stage it does weight on the decision.
You already mentioned runes, so I imagine they could be further applied to this delicate area.
After the babies are born, you'll have an harder time making their killing "sympathetic". While in another time the killing of newborn babies was somewhat a last resort practice in other eras (think about the classical "leaving a baby in the woods" when a family could not feed him), the more modern you'll go and the more the reader will confront your in-world ethics with ours.
Moreover, there will be always the risk of readers seeing an allegory where there is none, and that's a problem in itself.
What you can do is to show how the ethics in your society are different, and yet problematic. To do this well, you have to present different arguments and counter-arguments to the topic, without clearly parading from one of them.
- The parents will bond with their child, no matter if it's deformed. They will suffer the decision of killing it, even if their society always taught them not to.
- Some of the corrupted babies reach adulthood. Some are "evil". Some will likely campaign about how harder is for them to live at the margin of society.
- Some humans will find the practice of killing babies barbaric, no matter what.
- Some others will have strong hate (from xenophobic reasons to religious to personal) towards the corruption, and will defend even harsher measures against it.
- Some of the corrupted babies will live a life in pain. Some will be able to live normally. Some will act "evil", some won't.
As a writer, you have the duty to present every side of the issue fairly, without parading for one or the other. You may be tempted to reach out to the reader and say: "Look, I know killing newborns is bad, but here they have reasons". The reader will understand why it happens in your setting if you show it, but they won't like be schooled or spoonfeeded about it.
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Infanticide has been a part of many cultures and children seen as deformed or unlikely to survive would be left to die of exposure. It was a fact of life that no one need like, but it was done as there was no real alternative. The series Vikings had an episode where Ragnar takes his crippled infant son out to leave him, but has second thoughts and brings him back.
The weak were rarely permitted to drain the resources of the family. In the scenario you describe, such tainted children could be seen as potential connections to a darker god and a danger to all.
In Zelanzny’s This Immortal, the protagonist was left to die because of the day on which he was born, which according to his culture made him dangerous. Not all infants left to die do as others sometimes encounter them and adopt them - Oedipus for example.
Show the parents fear of the infant and fear for the harsh life he or she would have if left to live. A potential threat to society and marginalized - essentially a leper. It could be seen as a desperate act of love - ‘Can’t let this sweet babe suffer, so goodbye and better luck next time’ and then the parent kills the child to prevent his future suffering.
The doctor or whoever examined the infant to determine if they are worthy of life can be shown to dislike this aspect of life, but understand that preventing pain is a good thing. Living on the margins, looking like some kind of demon, the child was damned from the start.
Statistics showing the propensity for such a child to go dark - because of ostracism - would be given and mention of some of the more dangerous among them whose parents had hidden them away rather than do the responsible thing. Society demands what it demands.
In China, under the one child rule, many daughters were left to die so the parents could have a son to pass on the family name. Such sons had difficulty finding wives as many hadn’t been allowed to live.
Life can be dark and almost anything can have a reason or rationalization. Make it necessary and the reader will accept it.
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Infanticide has been a part of many cultures and children seen as deformed or unlikely to survive would be left to die of exposure. It was a fact of life that no one need like, but it was done as there was no real alternative. The series Vikings had an episode where Ragnar takes his crippled infant son out to leave him, but has second thoughts and brings him back.
The weak were rarely permitted to drain the resources of the family. In the scenario you describe, such tainted children could be seen as potential connections to a darker god and a danger to all.
In Zelanzny’s This Immortal, the protagonist was left to die because of the day on which he was born, which according to his culture made him dangerous. Not all infants left to die do as others sometimes encounter them and adopt them - Oedipus for example.
Show the parents fear of the infant and fear for the harsh life he or she would have if left to live. A potential threat to society and marginalized - essentially a leper. It could be seen as a desperate act of love - ‘Can’t let this sweet babe suffer, so goodbye and better luck next time’ and then the parent kills the child to prevent his future suffering.
The doctor or whoever examined the infant to determine if they are worthy of life can be shown to dislike this aspect of life, but understand that preventing pain is a good thing. Living on the margins, looking like some kind of demon, the child was damned from the start.
Statistics showing the propensity for such a child to go dark - because of ostracism - would be given and mention of some of the more dangerous among them whose parents had hidden them away rather than do the responsible thing. Society demands what it demands.
In China, under the one child rule, many daughters were left to die so the parents could have a son to pass on the family name. Such sons had difficulty finding wives as many hadn’t been allowed to live.
Life can be dark and almost anything can have a reason or rationalization. Make it necessary and the reader will accept it.
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Infanticide has been a part of many cultures and children seen as deformed or unlikely to survive would be left to die of exposure. It was a fact of life that no one need like, but it was done as there was no real alternative. The series Vikings had an episode where Ragnar takes his crippled infant son out to leave him, but has second thoughts and brings him back.
The weak were rarely permitted to drain the resources of the family. In the scenario you describe, such tainted children could be seen as potential connections to a darker god and a danger to all.
In Zelanzny’s This Immortal, the protagonist was left to die because of the day on which he was born, which according to his culture made him dangerous. Not all infants left to die do as others sometimes encounter them and adopt them - Oedipus for example.
Show the parents fear of the infant and fear for the harsh life he or she would have if left to live. A potential threat to society and marginalized - essentially a leper. It could be seen as a desperate act of love - ‘Can’t let this sweet babe suffer, so goodbye and better luck next time’ and then the parent kills the child to prevent his future suffering.
The doctor or whoever examined the infant to determine if they are worthy of life can be shown to dislike this aspect of life, but understand that preventing pain is a good thing. Living on the margins, looking like some kind of demon, the child was damned from the start.
Statistics showing the propensity for such a child to go dark - because of ostracism - would be given and mention of some of the more dangerous among them whose parents had hidden them away rather than do the responsible thing. Society demands what it demands.
In China, under the one child rule, many daughters were left to die so the parents could have a son to pass on the family name. Such sons had difficulty finding wives as many hadn’t been allowed to live.
Life can be dark and almost anything can have a reason or rationalization. Make it necessary and the reader will accept it.
Infanticide has been a part of many cultures and children seen as deformed or unlikely to survive would be left to die of exposure. It was a fact of life that no one need like, but it was done as there was no real alternative. The series Vikings had an episode where Ragnar takes his crippled infant son out to leave him, but has second thoughts and brings him back.
The weak were rarely permitted to drain the resources of the family. In the scenario you describe, such tainted children could be seen as potential connections to a darker god and a danger to all.
In Zelanzny’s This Immortal, the protagonist was left to die because of the day on which he was born, which according to his culture made him dangerous. Not all infants left to die do as others sometimes encounter them and adopt them - Oedipus for example.
Show the parents fear of the infant and fear for the harsh life he or she would have if left to live. A potential threat to society and marginalized - essentially a leper. It could be seen as a desperate act of love - ‘Can’t let this sweet babe suffer, so goodbye and better luck next time’ and then the parent kills the child to prevent his future suffering.
The doctor or whoever examined the infant to determine if they are worthy of life can be shown to dislike this aspect of life, but understand that preventing pain is a good thing. Living on the margins, looking like some kind of demon, the child was damned from the start.
Statistics showing the propensity for such a child to go dark - because of ostracism - would be given and mention of some of the more dangerous among them whose parents had hidden them away rather than do the responsible thing. Society demands what it demands.
In China, under the one child rule, many daughters were left to die so the parents could have a son to pass on the family name. Such sons had difficulty finding wives as many hadn’t been allowed to live.
Life can be dark and almost anything can have a reason or rationalization. Make it necessary and the reader will accept it.
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Well, ask your average Christian or Muslim apologist; they work really hard to justify infanticide and genocide. Their general tactic is to emphasise context over and over again, or claim that somehow the killings were a favour to the children (sending them 'straight to heaven').
If it can happen in the real world and at least 40% of Americans (occupants of a developed nation) can swallow the claims as the actions of a perfectly good god, then I assure you, some of your readers will be able to swallow the excuse. Though you may have to get them invested in the world you're writing (just as Christians and Muslims are very invested in the Bible/Quran), once you have their attention, you can convince people that just about anything is moral.
I'm not aware of any modern Christian apologists for infanticide, though I'm aware of plenty who are not only extremely against it, but consider abortion to be equivalent to it. (I know nothing of Islam, but they don't seem particularly in favor of it.) Do you have some examples of this?
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Well, ask your average Christian or Muslim apologist; they work really hard to justify infanticide and genocide. Their general tactic is to emphasise context over and over again, or claim that somehow the killings were a favour to the children (sending them 'straight to heaven').
If it can happen in the real world and at least 40% of Americans (occupants of a developed nation) can swallow the claims as the actions of a perfectly good god, then I assure you, some of your readers will be able to swallow the excuse. Though you may have to get them invested in the world you're writing (just as Christians and Muslims are very invested in the Bible/Quran), once you have their attention, you can convince people that just about anything is moral.
I'm not aware of any modern Christian apologists for infanticide, though I'm aware of plenty who are not only extremely against it, but consider abortion to be equivalent to it. (I know nothing of Islam, but they don't seem particularly in favor of it.) Do you have some examples of this?
– eyeballfrog
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Well, ask your average Christian or Muslim apologist; they work really hard to justify infanticide and genocide. Their general tactic is to emphasise context over and over again, or claim that somehow the killings were a favour to the children (sending them 'straight to heaven').
If it can happen in the real world and at least 40% of Americans (occupants of a developed nation) can swallow the claims as the actions of a perfectly good god, then I assure you, some of your readers will be able to swallow the excuse. Though you may have to get them invested in the world you're writing (just as Christians and Muslims are very invested in the Bible/Quran), once you have their attention, you can convince people that just about anything is moral.
Well, ask your average Christian or Muslim apologist; they work really hard to justify infanticide and genocide. Their general tactic is to emphasise context over and over again, or claim that somehow the killings were a favour to the children (sending them 'straight to heaven').
If it can happen in the real world and at least 40% of Americans (occupants of a developed nation) can swallow the claims as the actions of a perfectly good god, then I assure you, some of your readers will be able to swallow the excuse. Though you may have to get them invested in the world you're writing (just as Christians and Muslims are very invested in the Bible/Quran), once you have their attention, you can convince people that just about anything is moral.
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I'm not aware of any modern Christian apologists for infanticide, though I'm aware of plenty who are not only extremely against it, but consider abortion to be equivalent to it. (I know nothing of Islam, but they don't seem particularly in favor of it.) Do you have some examples of this?
– eyeballfrog
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I'm not aware of any modern Christian apologists for infanticide, though I'm aware of plenty who are not only extremely against it, but consider abortion to be equivalent to it. (I know nothing of Islam, but they don't seem particularly in favor of it.) Do you have some examples of this?
– eyeballfrog
1 min ago
I'm not aware of any modern Christian apologists for infanticide, though I'm aware of plenty who are not only extremely against it, but consider abortion to be equivalent to it. (I know nothing of Islam, but they don't seem particularly in favor of it.) Do you have some examples of this?
– eyeballfrog
1 min ago
I'm not aware of any modern Christian apologists for infanticide, though I'm aware of plenty who are not only extremely against it, but consider abortion to be equivalent to it. (I know nothing of Islam, but they don't seem particularly in favor of it.) Do you have some examples of this?
– eyeballfrog
1 min ago
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This is a difficult question to answer, the more I think about it the more it echoes current bigotries; like racism, homophobia, anti-semitism, anti-islam or anti-arab or anti-immigrant and real-life demonization of those that look, sound, or believe differently, as an excuse to exclude them or go to war with them. I think the risk is more than "killing deformed kids because reasons", I think the risk of writing this in the current political climate is the author can be vilified for metaphorically endorsing violence and ostracization for all kinds of "not like us" bigotries "for reasons".
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In fact, there are tribes in Central Africa (don't remember more specific details) who kill children whose lower teeth grow before their upper teeth. Those children are considered "demon children" who "bring bad luck to all the village". It's just as horrendous as it sounds - nothing sympathetic about it. There's a recent initiative to take those children away instead, but there's already been attacks on those who try this route - just having the children alive somewhere is considered potential for "bad luck" for the whole tribe.
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There's a really crucial distinction to make here: do you want readers to be on-board with the practice, or do you want them going omg that's awful, although I do understand these people are misguided rather than evil? Those are two vastly different reactions.
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