Do you use “a” or “an” before acronyms / initialisms?
up vote
211
down vote
favorite
99% of the time, I'm clear on when I should use "a" versus "an." There's one case, though, where people & references I respect disagree.
Which of the following would you precede with "a" or "an," and why?
- FAQ
- FUBAR
- SCUBA
[Note: I've read the questions "A historic..." or "An historic…"? and Use of "a" versus "an", but the rules given there don't necessarily apply here.]
[Edited to add]
Here's a shorter (and hopefully clearer) version of the question… In written English, which is correct (and why): "a FAQ" or "an FAQ"?
Some references with differing opinions:
an: the UC San Diego Editorial Style Guide and Apple Publications Style Guide
a: the Microsoft Manual of Style for Tech Publications, 3e
- either: the alt.usage.english FAQ and Yahoo! Style Guide
articles acronyms indefinite-articles
|
show 12 more comments
up vote
211
down vote
favorite
99% of the time, I'm clear on when I should use "a" versus "an." There's one case, though, where people & references I respect disagree.
Which of the following would you precede with "a" or "an," and why?
- FAQ
- FUBAR
- SCUBA
[Note: I've read the questions "A historic..." or "An historic…"? and Use of "a" versus "an", but the rules given there don't necessarily apply here.]
[Edited to add]
Here's a shorter (and hopefully clearer) version of the question… In written English, which is correct (and why): "a FAQ" or "an FAQ"?
Some references with differing opinions:
an: the UC San Diego Editorial Style Guide and Apple Publications Style Guide
a: the Microsoft Manual of Style for Tech Publications, 3e
- either: the alt.usage.english FAQ and Yahoo! Style Guide
articles acronyms indefinite-articles
8
"An RPG". The controlling factor is whether it's spoken with a vowel sound. (So "an hour", "a unicorn", etc.)
– chaos
Feb 6 '11 at 4:46
25
This does raise questions about when there are multiple common pronunciations of the acronym. Like "SQL" is sometimes pronounced "es-kew-el", and sometimes "sequel". The former would call for "an" and the latter for "a". I think, though, that we always choose "a" or "an" based on pronunciation of the acronym and not the spelled-out words, e.g. "an SST", as in "an ess-ess-tee", not "a supersonic transport".
– Jay
Sep 30 '11 at 14:32
6
@Jay SQL: In which case the writer picks their own style (or follows the in-house style) and uses it consistently.
– Hugo
Sep 30 '11 at 15:10
6
Or rephrases all sentences with SQL to avoid putting either "a" or "an" in front of it.
– yoozer8
Sep 30 '11 at 17:25
6
@Jim: While I admit to sometimes rephrasing a sentence to avoid a spelling or grammar problem, that is the coward's way out!
– Jay
Oct 4 '11 at 15:09
|
show 12 more comments
up vote
211
down vote
favorite
up vote
211
down vote
favorite
99% of the time, I'm clear on when I should use "a" versus "an." There's one case, though, where people & references I respect disagree.
Which of the following would you precede with "a" or "an," and why?
- FAQ
- FUBAR
- SCUBA
[Note: I've read the questions "A historic..." or "An historic…"? and Use of "a" versus "an", but the rules given there don't necessarily apply here.]
[Edited to add]
Here's a shorter (and hopefully clearer) version of the question… In written English, which is correct (and why): "a FAQ" or "an FAQ"?
Some references with differing opinions:
an: the UC San Diego Editorial Style Guide and Apple Publications Style Guide
a: the Microsoft Manual of Style for Tech Publications, 3e
- either: the alt.usage.english FAQ and Yahoo! Style Guide
articles acronyms indefinite-articles
99% of the time, I'm clear on when I should use "a" versus "an." There's one case, though, where people & references I respect disagree.
Which of the following would you precede with "a" or "an," and why?
- FAQ
- FUBAR
- SCUBA
[Note: I've read the questions "A historic..." or "An historic…"? and Use of "a" versus "an", but the rules given there don't necessarily apply here.]
[Edited to add]
Here's a shorter (and hopefully clearer) version of the question… In written English, which is correct (and why): "a FAQ" or "an FAQ"?
Some references with differing opinions:
an: the UC San Diego Editorial Style Guide and Apple Publications Style Guide
a: the Microsoft Manual of Style for Tech Publications, 3e
- either: the alt.usage.english FAQ and Yahoo! Style Guide
articles acronyms indefinite-articles
articles acronyms indefinite-articles
edited 27 mins ago
Community♦
1
1
asked Aug 16 '10 at 8:05
Dori
2,32631721
2,32631721
8
"An RPG". The controlling factor is whether it's spoken with a vowel sound. (So "an hour", "a unicorn", etc.)
– chaos
Feb 6 '11 at 4:46
25
This does raise questions about when there are multiple common pronunciations of the acronym. Like "SQL" is sometimes pronounced "es-kew-el", and sometimes "sequel". The former would call for "an" and the latter for "a". I think, though, that we always choose "a" or "an" based on pronunciation of the acronym and not the spelled-out words, e.g. "an SST", as in "an ess-ess-tee", not "a supersonic transport".
– Jay
Sep 30 '11 at 14:32
6
@Jay SQL: In which case the writer picks their own style (or follows the in-house style) and uses it consistently.
– Hugo
Sep 30 '11 at 15:10
6
Or rephrases all sentences with SQL to avoid putting either "a" or "an" in front of it.
– yoozer8
Sep 30 '11 at 17:25
6
@Jim: While I admit to sometimes rephrasing a sentence to avoid a spelling or grammar problem, that is the coward's way out!
– Jay
Oct 4 '11 at 15:09
|
show 12 more comments
8
"An RPG". The controlling factor is whether it's spoken with a vowel sound. (So "an hour", "a unicorn", etc.)
– chaos
Feb 6 '11 at 4:46
25
This does raise questions about when there are multiple common pronunciations of the acronym. Like "SQL" is sometimes pronounced "es-kew-el", and sometimes "sequel". The former would call for "an" and the latter for "a". I think, though, that we always choose "a" or "an" based on pronunciation of the acronym and not the spelled-out words, e.g. "an SST", as in "an ess-ess-tee", not "a supersonic transport".
– Jay
Sep 30 '11 at 14:32
6
@Jay SQL: In which case the writer picks their own style (or follows the in-house style) and uses it consistently.
– Hugo
Sep 30 '11 at 15:10
6
Or rephrases all sentences with SQL to avoid putting either "a" or "an" in front of it.
– yoozer8
Sep 30 '11 at 17:25
6
@Jim: While I admit to sometimes rephrasing a sentence to avoid a spelling or grammar problem, that is the coward's way out!
– Jay
Oct 4 '11 at 15:09
8
8
"An RPG". The controlling factor is whether it's spoken with a vowel sound. (So "an hour", "a unicorn", etc.)
– chaos
Feb 6 '11 at 4:46
"An RPG". The controlling factor is whether it's spoken with a vowel sound. (So "an hour", "a unicorn", etc.)
– chaos
Feb 6 '11 at 4:46
25
25
This does raise questions about when there are multiple common pronunciations of the acronym. Like "SQL" is sometimes pronounced "es-kew-el", and sometimes "sequel". The former would call for "an" and the latter for "a". I think, though, that we always choose "a" or "an" based on pronunciation of the acronym and not the spelled-out words, e.g. "an SST", as in "an ess-ess-tee", not "a supersonic transport".
– Jay
Sep 30 '11 at 14:32
This does raise questions about when there are multiple common pronunciations of the acronym. Like "SQL" is sometimes pronounced "es-kew-el", and sometimes "sequel". The former would call for "an" and the latter for "a". I think, though, that we always choose "a" or "an" based on pronunciation of the acronym and not the spelled-out words, e.g. "an SST", as in "an ess-ess-tee", not "a supersonic transport".
– Jay
Sep 30 '11 at 14:32
6
6
@Jay SQL: In which case the writer picks their own style (or follows the in-house style) and uses it consistently.
– Hugo
Sep 30 '11 at 15:10
@Jay SQL: In which case the writer picks their own style (or follows the in-house style) and uses it consistently.
– Hugo
Sep 30 '11 at 15:10
6
6
Or rephrases all sentences with SQL to avoid putting either "a" or "an" in front of it.
– yoozer8
Sep 30 '11 at 17:25
Or rephrases all sentences with SQL to avoid putting either "a" or "an" in front of it.
– yoozer8
Sep 30 '11 at 17:25
6
6
@Jim: While I admit to sometimes rephrasing a sentence to avoid a spelling or grammar problem, that is the coward's way out!
– Jay
Oct 4 '11 at 15:09
@Jim: While I admit to sometimes rephrasing a sentence to avoid a spelling or grammar problem, that is the coward's way out!
– Jay
Oct 4 '11 at 15:09
|
show 12 more comments
9 Answers
9
active
oldest
votes
up vote
190
down vote
accepted
It depends on whether the abbreviation is an acronym or an initialism. As "fubar" and "scuba" are usually pronounced as a word (making them acronyms), it would make sense to say "a fubar" and "a scuba diver". "FAQ" is a bit harder, because I have heard people say it like an initialism: "‹f›‹a›‹q›", while others pronounce it as an acronym /fæk/. Therefore, one should write either "a FAQ" or "an FAQ" depending on how that person pronounces it, ie, whether it is an acronym or an initialism.
18
+1 Exactly, it depends on how you pronounce these acronyms.
– b.roth
Aug 16 '10 at 8:21
19
Thanks for the teaching :-) Indeed there is a difference in the strict sense :-) So is CD-ROM an acronym or an initialism?
– Vincent McNabb
Aug 16 '10 at 9:08
4
@Dori - yes. Whichever way you write it, it will trip up some readers. The Corpus of Contemporary American English (COCA) lists two results for "a FAQ", and one result for "an FAQ", so "a FAQ" is probably more common. Google also shows a preference for "a FAQ".
– Vincent McNabb
Aug 17 '10 at 0:12
4
The whole “ acronyms must be pronounced as words” distinction appears to be one that is only made by dictionaries. From what I can tell, any abbreviation that is made from initials is called an acronym if it is pronounced differently from what the initials stand for.
– nohat♦
Aug 18 '10 at 14:56
4
It appears that the answer is: "there is no definitive answer to this question." Not exactly what I'd hoped, but as this was the only answer that responded to the question I asked, I guess that makes it the best.
– Dori
Aug 20 '10 at 4:04
|
show 12 more comments
up vote
108
down vote
The important point to remember is the following:
Written language is a representation of the spoken word.
Thus, the answer is "If the word following the indefinite article begins with a vowel sound, use an; if it begins with a consonant sound, use a."
In the case of initialisms and acronymns, use the exact rule above. For initialisms (e.g. "US"), the individual letters are pronounced. With what sound does the first pronounced letter begin? In the example "US", the first sound is /j/ (or "y"). This is a consonant sound, despite the letter "U" being a vowel; thus, you use a, as in a US dollar.
Contrast this with the initialism "RPM", which begins with the consonant "R" but is pronounced starting with /a/; thus, you use an, as in an RPM counter.
I'd ++ this if I could... Provides an excellent tutorial on letter sounds as well. Very nifty! Thank you.
– Shanimal
Dec 20 '12 at 15:05
add a comment |
up vote
33
down vote
The rule about the usage of a and an as indefinite articles is that an is used before a vocal sound.
- A warranty (/ˈwɑːrənti/)
- A user (/ˈjuːzər/)
- A one-way (/ˈwən ˌweɪ/)
- A man (/mæn/)
- An angel (/ˈeɪnʤəl/)
- An information (/ˌɪnfərˈmeɪʃən/)
When used before an acronym, the rule is still valid, but which article to use depends from how the acronym is pronounced (letter by letter, or as a word).
- An MP3 (/ɛm pi θri/)
- An RPG (/ɑːr pi ʤi/)
- An FBI agent (/ɛf biː aɪ/)
- A GPS device (/ʤi pi ɛs/)
- A NASA employee (/ˈnæsə/)
@kiamlaluno: Because it's hearing about a substandard English guide as if it were the be-all end-all that I'm sick of, not your answer.
– chaos
Feb 6 '11 at 8:27
@chaos: It doesn't seem that I am the only one to refer to the NOAD; your comments about me (and not to my question) make me think you are saying that I am the only one reporting what the NOAD says, which is not true at all. It also seems that your comments are against me, not against using the NOAD as a reference. I don't think the NOAD is a substandard English guide, and there are many people who would not say the NOAD is a substandard English guide.
– kiamlaluno
Feb 6 '11 at 8:57
3
@chaos: The distinction between acronym and initialism is a neologism that is not maintained by all writers or dictionaries. In fact, the Wikipedia page you linked cites The Cambridge Encyclopedia of the English Language: "However, some linguists do not recognize a sharp distinction between acronyms and initialisms, but use the former term for both" and Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of English Usage: "A number of commentators […] believe that acronyms […] pronounceable as words. Dictionaries, however, do not make this distinction because writers in general do not." Etc.
– ShreevatsaR
Feb 6 '11 at 11:53
5
@chaos: As a linguist, I don't consider people's actual usage to be the "lowest common denominator". Why should a self-declared grammar authority's arbitrary decision about the meaning of a word be inherently more "correct" than the way people actually understand the word? Language often isn't precise. There are those who construct artificially precise categories for English lexical items (that don't reflect usage) and then view those who don't conform to those distinctions as being sloppy or poor in their command of English. I see that as a waste of time — we don't learn anything that way.
– Kosmonaut
Feb 8 '11 at 14:33
2
The "acronym"/"initialism" distinction may not be universally accepted, but it's still probably worth mentioning in an answer that distinguishes between the two types of pronunciation of "acronyms".
– Mark Reed
Dec 18 '16 at 16:37
add a comment |
up vote
22
down vote
Note: Some of this information may be extraneous, but take it for what you will!
In general, some acronyms represent nouns, others verbs or adjectives. If it represents the former, I see no problem with prefixing with an (in)definite article (a/an).
scuba
is listed as a noun (lower-case) rather than an acronym in most dictionaries these days. It is of course derived from an acronym, but has evolved into a word in its own right (laser
would be another example).
FAQ
is an acronym, but is very commonly used as a noun - "a list of frequently-asked questions".
FUBAR
has various definitions, but it's normally interpreted as an adjective (at least by the original military one).
Hence, I would happily prefix scuba
/SCUBA
with a
/an
, but definitely not FUBAR
.
All these words begin with hard consonants, and thus should always be prefixed with a
. Saying that, some people pronounce FAQ by spelling out its letters, in which case an
is appropriate. I've never heard this done with the other two.
2
When used in the military sense, "fubar" would not have a(n) before it. However, when used in other senses where it is a noun, it would be perfectly fine. It would also be fine to say, "Man, this is a fubar situation". As the article refers to the noun, "situation", which is being modified by the adjective, "fubar".
– Vincent McNabb
Aug 16 '10 at 9:26
@Vincent: Yeah, but that's slightly beside the point. I mentioned that fubar is used as an adjective, this 'a' is just applying to the 'situation'.
– Noldorin
Aug 16 '10 at 10:13
@Noldorin I agreed with your point and added extra information. You are welcome to edit your post and clarify.
– Vincent McNabb
Aug 16 '10 at 10:45
5
The question is which to use between "a" and "an", not whether to use them. The part of speech has nothing whatever to do with this question: it's all on the pronunciation.
– Colin Fine
Aug 16 '10 at 13:20
@Colin: The question was not clear to me. It seemed to be asking too different things. Just because I provided more info that may have been necessary, think twice whether that really deserves a down-vote.
– Noldorin
Aug 16 '10 at 13:33
|
show 4 more comments
up vote
18
down vote
Vincent McNabb is correct. If you want evidence based on "credible and/or official sources" that this is the rule followed in formal English writing, here is my suggestion.
I ran Google searches on Google Books only, meaning the bulk of the search will be against professionally edited and published works, not random web sites. I searched only for phrases where the pronunciation of the acronym was relatively clear and consistent: for example, nobody pronounces "SCUBA" as "Ess Cee Yew Bee Ay" and nobody pronounces "FBI" as "Fibbi."
Here are the number of hits in the Google Books database for:
- "A SCUBA": 49,800
- "An SCUBA": 56
- "A FBI": 16,000
- "An FBI": 343,000
- "A NASA": 264,000
- "An NASA": 16,500
- "A RGB": 7,130
- "An RGB": 33,800
- "A UPC": 11,800
- "An UPC": 436
In each case, basing the article on the initial sound, rather than on the initial letter, is more common; in most cases substantially more common.
As a control, I also looked at two acronyms where both the initial sound and the initial letter are consonants.
- "A VPN": 50,100
- "An VPN": 960
- "A OCR": 9,380
- "An OCR": 1,870,000
Because "An VPN" and "A OCR" are incorrect based on any possible rule, we can conclude that the positive results are grammatical, OCR, or search engine errors. This suggests that the minority viewpoint on SCUBA, FBI, NASA, RGB and UPC are also smaller than they appear.
We can conclude that, based on evidence of usage among published documents digitized by Google Books, the preferred rule is to base the article on how the intended pronunciation of the acronym would be spelled phonetically.
add a comment |
up vote
15
down vote
It doesn't make any difference at all whether the article is modifying an acronym, an initialism, a proper noun, a French borrowing, or anything else. English article form is determined solely and entirely by pronunciation. And not at all by spelling.
The rule for the pronunciation of articles in English -- definite and indefinite -- is that they have one form before consonants (note, real consonants -- sounds -- not "letters" in a writing system), and a different form before vowels (ditto).
Hence, how you say it is what counts. Nothing else does.
Before vowels -- Indefinite an /ən/ and Definite the /ði/:
an hour, an SOS, an A-to-Z selection, an EE degree, an idiot
the hour, the SOS, the A-to-Z selection, the EE degree, the idiot (all pronounced /ði/)Before consonants -- Indefinite a /ə/ and Definite the /ðə/:
a URL, a snafu, a Charlie Foxtrot, a moron
the URL, the snafu, the Charlie Foxtrot, the moron (all pronounced /ðə/)
Most native English speakers never notice that there are two different pronunciations for the, but non-native English speakers need to know this immediately.
1
I believe there are three pronunciations.
– Edwin Ashworth
Mar 26 '14 at 16:55
add a comment |
up vote
5
down vote
Like @Vincent McNabb said, it is a question of whether the word is used as an initialism (like HTML) or a acronym. When in doubt, as with FAQ, I would defer to the initialism form ("a FAQ") as it suggests in Wikipedia:
There is also some disagreement as to what to call abbreviations that some speakers pronounce as letters and others pronounce as a word. For example, the terms URL and IRA can be pronounced as individual letters: /ˌjuːˌɑrˈɛl/ and /ˌaɪˌɑrˈeɪ/, respectively; or as a single word: /ˈɜrl/ and /ˈaɪərə/, respectively. Such constructions, however—regardless of how they are pronounced—if formed from initials, may be identified as initialisms without controversy.
add a comment |
up vote
3
down vote
Edit:
I originally posted this answer to the question Is there an exceptional use of the article ‘a/an’? which has been merged with this one. The acronyms FTA and FC I refer to below are from that question.
Original answer:
It is exactly as you said: an is used before words beginning with a vowel sound, not necessarily a vowel letter.
The acronyms you mentioned both begin with vowel sounds (/ɛf.tiˈeɪ̯/, /ɛfˈsiː/), so an is used before them. There are also words and acronyms that begin with a vowel letter, but not with a vowel sound: a UAV (/ju.eɪ̯ˈviː/), a union (/ˈjuːnjən/).
It depends on the pronunciation of the following word (not its spelling) whether you use a or an.
Thank you so much! Your detailed explanation and examples also helped me solve my curiosity :) Have a good day
– Nayeong Kim
Nov 12 at 10:28
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
Compare with an umbrella uttered as /əmˈbrelə/, versus a university uttered as /juːnɪˈvɜːsɪtɪ/. Though both begin with the same written vowel, they have a different sound at the beginning. Umbrella has a schwa, while university has a 'you'. It is the sounds rather that the written vowel that drive the choice of 'a' or 'an'.
It is similar with your question. "An Eff Tee Ay" or "an Eff See". It is the spoken'Eff', uttered with a vowel sound as /ef/, that drives the use of 'an' even though [f] is listed as a consonant.
Your answer is rly informative and helpful :) Thx!!
– Nayeong Kim
Nov 12 at 10:36
You are welcome.
– Roaring Fish
Nov 12 at 10:47
You might have to add the link to the duplicate question. The post has since been merged with the much older question.
– Mari-Lou A
Nov 12 at 16:18
add a comment |
protected by RegDwigнt♦ Feb 4 '12 at 18:17
Thank you for your interest in this question.
Because it has attracted low-quality or spam answers that had to be removed, posting an answer now requires 10 reputation on this site (the association bonus does not count).
Would you like to answer one of these unanswered questions instead?
9 Answers
9
active
oldest
votes
9 Answers
9
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
190
down vote
accepted
It depends on whether the abbreviation is an acronym or an initialism. As "fubar" and "scuba" are usually pronounced as a word (making them acronyms), it would make sense to say "a fubar" and "a scuba diver". "FAQ" is a bit harder, because I have heard people say it like an initialism: "‹f›‹a›‹q›", while others pronounce it as an acronym /fæk/. Therefore, one should write either "a FAQ" or "an FAQ" depending on how that person pronounces it, ie, whether it is an acronym or an initialism.
18
+1 Exactly, it depends on how you pronounce these acronyms.
– b.roth
Aug 16 '10 at 8:21
19
Thanks for the teaching :-) Indeed there is a difference in the strict sense :-) So is CD-ROM an acronym or an initialism?
– Vincent McNabb
Aug 16 '10 at 9:08
4
@Dori - yes. Whichever way you write it, it will trip up some readers. The Corpus of Contemporary American English (COCA) lists two results for "a FAQ", and one result for "an FAQ", so "a FAQ" is probably more common. Google also shows a preference for "a FAQ".
– Vincent McNabb
Aug 17 '10 at 0:12
4
The whole “ acronyms must be pronounced as words” distinction appears to be one that is only made by dictionaries. From what I can tell, any abbreviation that is made from initials is called an acronym if it is pronounced differently from what the initials stand for.
– nohat♦
Aug 18 '10 at 14:56
4
It appears that the answer is: "there is no definitive answer to this question." Not exactly what I'd hoped, but as this was the only answer that responded to the question I asked, I guess that makes it the best.
– Dori
Aug 20 '10 at 4:04
|
show 12 more comments
up vote
190
down vote
accepted
It depends on whether the abbreviation is an acronym or an initialism. As "fubar" and "scuba" are usually pronounced as a word (making them acronyms), it would make sense to say "a fubar" and "a scuba diver". "FAQ" is a bit harder, because I have heard people say it like an initialism: "‹f›‹a›‹q›", while others pronounce it as an acronym /fæk/. Therefore, one should write either "a FAQ" or "an FAQ" depending on how that person pronounces it, ie, whether it is an acronym or an initialism.
18
+1 Exactly, it depends on how you pronounce these acronyms.
– b.roth
Aug 16 '10 at 8:21
19
Thanks for the teaching :-) Indeed there is a difference in the strict sense :-) So is CD-ROM an acronym or an initialism?
– Vincent McNabb
Aug 16 '10 at 9:08
4
@Dori - yes. Whichever way you write it, it will trip up some readers. The Corpus of Contemporary American English (COCA) lists two results for "a FAQ", and one result for "an FAQ", so "a FAQ" is probably more common. Google also shows a preference for "a FAQ".
– Vincent McNabb
Aug 17 '10 at 0:12
4
The whole “ acronyms must be pronounced as words” distinction appears to be one that is only made by dictionaries. From what I can tell, any abbreviation that is made from initials is called an acronym if it is pronounced differently from what the initials stand for.
– nohat♦
Aug 18 '10 at 14:56
4
It appears that the answer is: "there is no definitive answer to this question." Not exactly what I'd hoped, but as this was the only answer that responded to the question I asked, I guess that makes it the best.
– Dori
Aug 20 '10 at 4:04
|
show 12 more comments
up vote
190
down vote
accepted
up vote
190
down vote
accepted
It depends on whether the abbreviation is an acronym or an initialism. As "fubar" and "scuba" are usually pronounced as a word (making them acronyms), it would make sense to say "a fubar" and "a scuba diver". "FAQ" is a bit harder, because I have heard people say it like an initialism: "‹f›‹a›‹q›", while others pronounce it as an acronym /fæk/. Therefore, one should write either "a FAQ" or "an FAQ" depending on how that person pronounces it, ie, whether it is an acronym or an initialism.
It depends on whether the abbreviation is an acronym or an initialism. As "fubar" and "scuba" are usually pronounced as a word (making them acronyms), it would make sense to say "a fubar" and "a scuba diver". "FAQ" is a bit harder, because I have heard people say it like an initialism: "‹f›‹a›‹q›", while others pronounce it as an acronym /fæk/. Therefore, one should write either "a FAQ" or "an FAQ" depending on how that person pronounces it, ie, whether it is an acronym or an initialism.
edited Aug 16 '10 at 9:15
answered Aug 16 '10 at 8:15
Vincent McNabb
7,77433437
7,77433437
18
+1 Exactly, it depends on how you pronounce these acronyms.
– b.roth
Aug 16 '10 at 8:21
19
Thanks for the teaching :-) Indeed there is a difference in the strict sense :-) So is CD-ROM an acronym or an initialism?
– Vincent McNabb
Aug 16 '10 at 9:08
4
@Dori - yes. Whichever way you write it, it will trip up some readers. The Corpus of Contemporary American English (COCA) lists two results for "a FAQ", and one result for "an FAQ", so "a FAQ" is probably more common. Google also shows a preference for "a FAQ".
– Vincent McNabb
Aug 17 '10 at 0:12
4
The whole “ acronyms must be pronounced as words” distinction appears to be one that is only made by dictionaries. From what I can tell, any abbreviation that is made from initials is called an acronym if it is pronounced differently from what the initials stand for.
– nohat♦
Aug 18 '10 at 14:56
4
It appears that the answer is: "there is no definitive answer to this question." Not exactly what I'd hoped, but as this was the only answer that responded to the question I asked, I guess that makes it the best.
– Dori
Aug 20 '10 at 4:04
|
show 12 more comments
18
+1 Exactly, it depends on how you pronounce these acronyms.
– b.roth
Aug 16 '10 at 8:21
19
Thanks for the teaching :-) Indeed there is a difference in the strict sense :-) So is CD-ROM an acronym or an initialism?
– Vincent McNabb
Aug 16 '10 at 9:08
4
@Dori - yes. Whichever way you write it, it will trip up some readers. The Corpus of Contemporary American English (COCA) lists two results for "a FAQ", and one result for "an FAQ", so "a FAQ" is probably more common. Google also shows a preference for "a FAQ".
– Vincent McNabb
Aug 17 '10 at 0:12
4
The whole “ acronyms must be pronounced as words” distinction appears to be one that is only made by dictionaries. From what I can tell, any abbreviation that is made from initials is called an acronym if it is pronounced differently from what the initials stand for.
– nohat♦
Aug 18 '10 at 14:56
4
It appears that the answer is: "there is no definitive answer to this question." Not exactly what I'd hoped, but as this was the only answer that responded to the question I asked, I guess that makes it the best.
– Dori
Aug 20 '10 at 4:04
18
18
+1 Exactly, it depends on how you pronounce these acronyms.
– b.roth
Aug 16 '10 at 8:21
+1 Exactly, it depends on how you pronounce these acronyms.
– b.roth
Aug 16 '10 at 8:21
19
19
Thanks for the teaching :-) Indeed there is a difference in the strict sense :-) So is CD-ROM an acronym or an initialism?
– Vincent McNabb
Aug 16 '10 at 9:08
Thanks for the teaching :-) Indeed there is a difference in the strict sense :-) So is CD-ROM an acronym or an initialism?
– Vincent McNabb
Aug 16 '10 at 9:08
4
4
@Dori - yes. Whichever way you write it, it will trip up some readers. The Corpus of Contemporary American English (COCA) lists two results for "a FAQ", and one result for "an FAQ", so "a FAQ" is probably more common. Google also shows a preference for "a FAQ".
– Vincent McNabb
Aug 17 '10 at 0:12
@Dori - yes. Whichever way you write it, it will trip up some readers. The Corpus of Contemporary American English (COCA) lists two results for "a FAQ", and one result for "an FAQ", so "a FAQ" is probably more common. Google also shows a preference for "a FAQ".
– Vincent McNabb
Aug 17 '10 at 0:12
4
4
The whole “ acronyms must be pronounced as words” distinction appears to be one that is only made by dictionaries. From what I can tell, any abbreviation that is made from initials is called an acronym if it is pronounced differently from what the initials stand for.
– nohat♦
Aug 18 '10 at 14:56
The whole “ acronyms must be pronounced as words” distinction appears to be one that is only made by dictionaries. From what I can tell, any abbreviation that is made from initials is called an acronym if it is pronounced differently from what the initials stand for.
– nohat♦
Aug 18 '10 at 14:56
4
4
It appears that the answer is: "there is no definitive answer to this question." Not exactly what I'd hoped, but as this was the only answer that responded to the question I asked, I guess that makes it the best.
– Dori
Aug 20 '10 at 4:04
It appears that the answer is: "there is no definitive answer to this question." Not exactly what I'd hoped, but as this was the only answer that responded to the question I asked, I guess that makes it the best.
– Dori
Aug 20 '10 at 4:04
|
show 12 more comments
up vote
108
down vote
The important point to remember is the following:
Written language is a representation of the spoken word.
Thus, the answer is "If the word following the indefinite article begins with a vowel sound, use an; if it begins with a consonant sound, use a."
In the case of initialisms and acronymns, use the exact rule above. For initialisms (e.g. "US"), the individual letters are pronounced. With what sound does the first pronounced letter begin? In the example "US", the first sound is /j/ (or "y"). This is a consonant sound, despite the letter "U" being a vowel; thus, you use a, as in a US dollar.
Contrast this with the initialism "RPM", which begins with the consonant "R" but is pronounced starting with /a/; thus, you use an, as in an RPM counter.
I'd ++ this if I could... Provides an excellent tutorial on letter sounds as well. Very nifty! Thank you.
– Shanimal
Dec 20 '12 at 15:05
add a comment |
up vote
108
down vote
The important point to remember is the following:
Written language is a representation of the spoken word.
Thus, the answer is "If the word following the indefinite article begins with a vowel sound, use an; if it begins with a consonant sound, use a."
In the case of initialisms and acronymns, use the exact rule above. For initialisms (e.g. "US"), the individual letters are pronounced. With what sound does the first pronounced letter begin? In the example "US", the first sound is /j/ (or "y"). This is a consonant sound, despite the letter "U" being a vowel; thus, you use a, as in a US dollar.
Contrast this with the initialism "RPM", which begins with the consonant "R" but is pronounced starting with /a/; thus, you use an, as in an RPM counter.
I'd ++ this if I could... Provides an excellent tutorial on letter sounds as well. Very nifty! Thank you.
– Shanimal
Dec 20 '12 at 15:05
add a comment |
up vote
108
down vote
up vote
108
down vote
The important point to remember is the following:
Written language is a representation of the spoken word.
Thus, the answer is "If the word following the indefinite article begins with a vowel sound, use an; if it begins with a consonant sound, use a."
In the case of initialisms and acronymns, use the exact rule above. For initialisms (e.g. "US"), the individual letters are pronounced. With what sound does the first pronounced letter begin? In the example "US", the first sound is /j/ (or "y"). This is a consonant sound, despite the letter "U" being a vowel; thus, you use a, as in a US dollar.
Contrast this with the initialism "RPM", which begins with the consonant "R" but is pronounced starting with /a/; thus, you use an, as in an RPM counter.
The important point to remember is the following:
Written language is a representation of the spoken word.
Thus, the answer is "If the word following the indefinite article begins with a vowel sound, use an; if it begins with a consonant sound, use a."
In the case of initialisms and acronymns, use the exact rule above. For initialisms (e.g. "US"), the individual letters are pronounced. With what sound does the first pronounced letter begin? In the example "US", the first sound is /j/ (or "y"). This is a consonant sound, despite the letter "U" being a vowel; thus, you use a, as in a US dollar.
Contrast this with the initialism "RPM", which begins with the consonant "R" but is pronounced starting with /a/; thus, you use an, as in an RPM counter.
answered Feb 3 '12 at 19:55
Spoxjox
1,6061114
1,6061114
I'd ++ this if I could... Provides an excellent tutorial on letter sounds as well. Very nifty! Thank you.
– Shanimal
Dec 20 '12 at 15:05
add a comment |
I'd ++ this if I could... Provides an excellent tutorial on letter sounds as well. Very nifty! Thank you.
– Shanimal
Dec 20 '12 at 15:05
I'd ++ this if I could... Provides an excellent tutorial on letter sounds as well. Very nifty! Thank you.
– Shanimal
Dec 20 '12 at 15:05
I'd ++ this if I could... Provides an excellent tutorial on letter sounds as well. Very nifty! Thank you.
– Shanimal
Dec 20 '12 at 15:05
add a comment |
up vote
33
down vote
The rule about the usage of a and an as indefinite articles is that an is used before a vocal sound.
- A warranty (/ˈwɑːrənti/)
- A user (/ˈjuːzər/)
- A one-way (/ˈwən ˌweɪ/)
- A man (/mæn/)
- An angel (/ˈeɪnʤəl/)
- An information (/ˌɪnfərˈmeɪʃən/)
When used before an acronym, the rule is still valid, but which article to use depends from how the acronym is pronounced (letter by letter, or as a word).
- An MP3 (/ɛm pi θri/)
- An RPG (/ɑːr pi ʤi/)
- An FBI agent (/ɛf biː aɪ/)
- A GPS device (/ʤi pi ɛs/)
- A NASA employee (/ˈnæsə/)
@kiamlaluno: Because it's hearing about a substandard English guide as if it were the be-all end-all that I'm sick of, not your answer.
– chaos
Feb 6 '11 at 8:27
@chaos: It doesn't seem that I am the only one to refer to the NOAD; your comments about me (and not to my question) make me think you are saying that I am the only one reporting what the NOAD says, which is not true at all. It also seems that your comments are against me, not against using the NOAD as a reference. I don't think the NOAD is a substandard English guide, and there are many people who would not say the NOAD is a substandard English guide.
– kiamlaluno
Feb 6 '11 at 8:57
3
@chaos: The distinction between acronym and initialism is a neologism that is not maintained by all writers or dictionaries. In fact, the Wikipedia page you linked cites The Cambridge Encyclopedia of the English Language: "However, some linguists do not recognize a sharp distinction between acronyms and initialisms, but use the former term for both" and Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of English Usage: "A number of commentators […] believe that acronyms […] pronounceable as words. Dictionaries, however, do not make this distinction because writers in general do not." Etc.
– ShreevatsaR
Feb 6 '11 at 11:53
5
@chaos: As a linguist, I don't consider people's actual usage to be the "lowest common denominator". Why should a self-declared grammar authority's arbitrary decision about the meaning of a word be inherently more "correct" than the way people actually understand the word? Language often isn't precise. There are those who construct artificially precise categories for English lexical items (that don't reflect usage) and then view those who don't conform to those distinctions as being sloppy or poor in their command of English. I see that as a waste of time — we don't learn anything that way.
– Kosmonaut
Feb 8 '11 at 14:33
2
The "acronym"/"initialism" distinction may not be universally accepted, but it's still probably worth mentioning in an answer that distinguishes between the two types of pronunciation of "acronyms".
– Mark Reed
Dec 18 '16 at 16:37
add a comment |
up vote
33
down vote
The rule about the usage of a and an as indefinite articles is that an is used before a vocal sound.
- A warranty (/ˈwɑːrənti/)
- A user (/ˈjuːzər/)
- A one-way (/ˈwən ˌweɪ/)
- A man (/mæn/)
- An angel (/ˈeɪnʤəl/)
- An information (/ˌɪnfərˈmeɪʃən/)
When used before an acronym, the rule is still valid, but which article to use depends from how the acronym is pronounced (letter by letter, or as a word).
- An MP3 (/ɛm pi θri/)
- An RPG (/ɑːr pi ʤi/)
- An FBI agent (/ɛf biː aɪ/)
- A GPS device (/ʤi pi ɛs/)
- A NASA employee (/ˈnæsə/)
@kiamlaluno: Because it's hearing about a substandard English guide as if it were the be-all end-all that I'm sick of, not your answer.
– chaos
Feb 6 '11 at 8:27
@chaos: It doesn't seem that I am the only one to refer to the NOAD; your comments about me (and not to my question) make me think you are saying that I am the only one reporting what the NOAD says, which is not true at all. It also seems that your comments are against me, not against using the NOAD as a reference. I don't think the NOAD is a substandard English guide, and there are many people who would not say the NOAD is a substandard English guide.
– kiamlaluno
Feb 6 '11 at 8:57
3
@chaos: The distinction between acronym and initialism is a neologism that is not maintained by all writers or dictionaries. In fact, the Wikipedia page you linked cites The Cambridge Encyclopedia of the English Language: "However, some linguists do not recognize a sharp distinction between acronyms and initialisms, but use the former term for both" and Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of English Usage: "A number of commentators […] believe that acronyms […] pronounceable as words. Dictionaries, however, do not make this distinction because writers in general do not." Etc.
– ShreevatsaR
Feb 6 '11 at 11:53
5
@chaos: As a linguist, I don't consider people's actual usage to be the "lowest common denominator". Why should a self-declared grammar authority's arbitrary decision about the meaning of a word be inherently more "correct" than the way people actually understand the word? Language often isn't precise. There are those who construct artificially precise categories for English lexical items (that don't reflect usage) and then view those who don't conform to those distinctions as being sloppy or poor in their command of English. I see that as a waste of time — we don't learn anything that way.
– Kosmonaut
Feb 8 '11 at 14:33
2
The "acronym"/"initialism" distinction may not be universally accepted, but it's still probably worth mentioning in an answer that distinguishes between the two types of pronunciation of "acronyms".
– Mark Reed
Dec 18 '16 at 16:37
add a comment |
up vote
33
down vote
up vote
33
down vote
The rule about the usage of a and an as indefinite articles is that an is used before a vocal sound.
- A warranty (/ˈwɑːrənti/)
- A user (/ˈjuːzər/)
- A one-way (/ˈwən ˌweɪ/)
- A man (/mæn/)
- An angel (/ˈeɪnʤəl/)
- An information (/ˌɪnfərˈmeɪʃən/)
When used before an acronym, the rule is still valid, but which article to use depends from how the acronym is pronounced (letter by letter, or as a word).
- An MP3 (/ɛm pi θri/)
- An RPG (/ɑːr pi ʤi/)
- An FBI agent (/ɛf biː aɪ/)
- A GPS device (/ʤi pi ɛs/)
- A NASA employee (/ˈnæsə/)
The rule about the usage of a and an as indefinite articles is that an is used before a vocal sound.
- A warranty (/ˈwɑːrənti/)
- A user (/ˈjuːzər/)
- A one-way (/ˈwən ˌweɪ/)
- A man (/mæn/)
- An angel (/ˈeɪnʤəl/)
- An information (/ˌɪnfərˈmeɪʃən/)
When used before an acronym, the rule is still valid, but which article to use depends from how the acronym is pronounced (letter by letter, or as a word).
- An MP3 (/ɛm pi θri/)
- An RPG (/ɑːr pi ʤi/)
- An FBI agent (/ɛf biː aɪ/)
- A GPS device (/ʤi pi ɛs/)
- A NASA employee (/ˈnæsə/)
edited Jun 9 '13 at 22:33
answered Feb 6 '11 at 4:54
kiamlaluno
43.4k56180295
43.4k56180295
@kiamlaluno: Because it's hearing about a substandard English guide as if it were the be-all end-all that I'm sick of, not your answer.
– chaos
Feb 6 '11 at 8:27
@chaos: It doesn't seem that I am the only one to refer to the NOAD; your comments about me (and not to my question) make me think you are saying that I am the only one reporting what the NOAD says, which is not true at all. It also seems that your comments are against me, not against using the NOAD as a reference. I don't think the NOAD is a substandard English guide, and there are many people who would not say the NOAD is a substandard English guide.
– kiamlaluno
Feb 6 '11 at 8:57
3
@chaos: The distinction between acronym and initialism is a neologism that is not maintained by all writers or dictionaries. In fact, the Wikipedia page you linked cites The Cambridge Encyclopedia of the English Language: "However, some linguists do not recognize a sharp distinction between acronyms and initialisms, but use the former term for both" and Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of English Usage: "A number of commentators […] believe that acronyms […] pronounceable as words. Dictionaries, however, do not make this distinction because writers in general do not." Etc.
– ShreevatsaR
Feb 6 '11 at 11:53
5
@chaos: As a linguist, I don't consider people's actual usage to be the "lowest common denominator". Why should a self-declared grammar authority's arbitrary decision about the meaning of a word be inherently more "correct" than the way people actually understand the word? Language often isn't precise. There are those who construct artificially precise categories for English lexical items (that don't reflect usage) and then view those who don't conform to those distinctions as being sloppy or poor in their command of English. I see that as a waste of time — we don't learn anything that way.
– Kosmonaut
Feb 8 '11 at 14:33
2
The "acronym"/"initialism" distinction may not be universally accepted, but it's still probably worth mentioning in an answer that distinguishes between the two types of pronunciation of "acronyms".
– Mark Reed
Dec 18 '16 at 16:37
add a comment |
@kiamlaluno: Because it's hearing about a substandard English guide as if it were the be-all end-all that I'm sick of, not your answer.
– chaos
Feb 6 '11 at 8:27
@chaos: It doesn't seem that I am the only one to refer to the NOAD; your comments about me (and not to my question) make me think you are saying that I am the only one reporting what the NOAD says, which is not true at all. It also seems that your comments are against me, not against using the NOAD as a reference. I don't think the NOAD is a substandard English guide, and there are many people who would not say the NOAD is a substandard English guide.
– kiamlaluno
Feb 6 '11 at 8:57
3
@chaos: The distinction between acronym and initialism is a neologism that is not maintained by all writers or dictionaries. In fact, the Wikipedia page you linked cites The Cambridge Encyclopedia of the English Language: "However, some linguists do not recognize a sharp distinction between acronyms and initialisms, but use the former term for both" and Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of English Usage: "A number of commentators […] believe that acronyms […] pronounceable as words. Dictionaries, however, do not make this distinction because writers in general do not." Etc.
– ShreevatsaR
Feb 6 '11 at 11:53
5
@chaos: As a linguist, I don't consider people's actual usage to be the "lowest common denominator". Why should a self-declared grammar authority's arbitrary decision about the meaning of a word be inherently more "correct" than the way people actually understand the word? Language often isn't precise. There are those who construct artificially precise categories for English lexical items (that don't reflect usage) and then view those who don't conform to those distinctions as being sloppy or poor in their command of English. I see that as a waste of time — we don't learn anything that way.
– Kosmonaut
Feb 8 '11 at 14:33
2
The "acronym"/"initialism" distinction may not be universally accepted, but it's still probably worth mentioning in an answer that distinguishes between the two types of pronunciation of "acronyms".
– Mark Reed
Dec 18 '16 at 16:37
@kiamlaluno: Because it's hearing about a substandard English guide as if it were the be-all end-all that I'm sick of, not your answer.
– chaos
Feb 6 '11 at 8:27
@kiamlaluno: Because it's hearing about a substandard English guide as if it were the be-all end-all that I'm sick of, not your answer.
– chaos
Feb 6 '11 at 8:27
@chaos: It doesn't seem that I am the only one to refer to the NOAD; your comments about me (and not to my question) make me think you are saying that I am the only one reporting what the NOAD says, which is not true at all. It also seems that your comments are against me, not against using the NOAD as a reference. I don't think the NOAD is a substandard English guide, and there are many people who would not say the NOAD is a substandard English guide.
– kiamlaluno
Feb 6 '11 at 8:57
@chaos: It doesn't seem that I am the only one to refer to the NOAD; your comments about me (and not to my question) make me think you are saying that I am the only one reporting what the NOAD says, which is not true at all. It also seems that your comments are against me, not against using the NOAD as a reference. I don't think the NOAD is a substandard English guide, and there are many people who would not say the NOAD is a substandard English guide.
– kiamlaluno
Feb 6 '11 at 8:57
3
3
@chaos: The distinction between acronym and initialism is a neologism that is not maintained by all writers or dictionaries. In fact, the Wikipedia page you linked cites The Cambridge Encyclopedia of the English Language: "However, some linguists do not recognize a sharp distinction between acronyms and initialisms, but use the former term for both" and Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of English Usage: "A number of commentators […] believe that acronyms […] pronounceable as words. Dictionaries, however, do not make this distinction because writers in general do not." Etc.
– ShreevatsaR
Feb 6 '11 at 11:53
@chaos: The distinction between acronym and initialism is a neologism that is not maintained by all writers or dictionaries. In fact, the Wikipedia page you linked cites The Cambridge Encyclopedia of the English Language: "However, some linguists do not recognize a sharp distinction between acronyms and initialisms, but use the former term for both" and Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of English Usage: "A number of commentators […] believe that acronyms […] pronounceable as words. Dictionaries, however, do not make this distinction because writers in general do not." Etc.
– ShreevatsaR
Feb 6 '11 at 11:53
5
5
@chaos: As a linguist, I don't consider people's actual usage to be the "lowest common denominator". Why should a self-declared grammar authority's arbitrary decision about the meaning of a word be inherently more "correct" than the way people actually understand the word? Language often isn't precise. There are those who construct artificially precise categories for English lexical items (that don't reflect usage) and then view those who don't conform to those distinctions as being sloppy or poor in their command of English. I see that as a waste of time — we don't learn anything that way.
– Kosmonaut
Feb 8 '11 at 14:33
@chaos: As a linguist, I don't consider people's actual usage to be the "lowest common denominator". Why should a self-declared grammar authority's arbitrary decision about the meaning of a word be inherently more "correct" than the way people actually understand the word? Language often isn't precise. There are those who construct artificially precise categories for English lexical items (that don't reflect usage) and then view those who don't conform to those distinctions as being sloppy or poor in their command of English. I see that as a waste of time — we don't learn anything that way.
– Kosmonaut
Feb 8 '11 at 14:33
2
2
The "acronym"/"initialism" distinction may not be universally accepted, but it's still probably worth mentioning in an answer that distinguishes between the two types of pronunciation of "acronyms".
– Mark Reed
Dec 18 '16 at 16:37
The "acronym"/"initialism" distinction may not be universally accepted, but it's still probably worth mentioning in an answer that distinguishes between the two types of pronunciation of "acronyms".
– Mark Reed
Dec 18 '16 at 16:37
add a comment |
up vote
22
down vote
Note: Some of this information may be extraneous, but take it for what you will!
In general, some acronyms represent nouns, others verbs or adjectives. If it represents the former, I see no problem with prefixing with an (in)definite article (a/an).
scuba
is listed as a noun (lower-case) rather than an acronym in most dictionaries these days. It is of course derived from an acronym, but has evolved into a word in its own right (laser
would be another example).
FAQ
is an acronym, but is very commonly used as a noun - "a list of frequently-asked questions".
FUBAR
has various definitions, but it's normally interpreted as an adjective (at least by the original military one).
Hence, I would happily prefix scuba
/SCUBA
with a
/an
, but definitely not FUBAR
.
All these words begin with hard consonants, and thus should always be prefixed with a
. Saying that, some people pronounce FAQ by spelling out its letters, in which case an
is appropriate. I've never heard this done with the other two.
2
When used in the military sense, "fubar" would not have a(n) before it. However, when used in other senses where it is a noun, it would be perfectly fine. It would also be fine to say, "Man, this is a fubar situation". As the article refers to the noun, "situation", which is being modified by the adjective, "fubar".
– Vincent McNabb
Aug 16 '10 at 9:26
@Vincent: Yeah, but that's slightly beside the point. I mentioned that fubar is used as an adjective, this 'a' is just applying to the 'situation'.
– Noldorin
Aug 16 '10 at 10:13
@Noldorin I agreed with your point and added extra information. You are welcome to edit your post and clarify.
– Vincent McNabb
Aug 16 '10 at 10:45
5
The question is which to use between "a" and "an", not whether to use them. The part of speech has nothing whatever to do with this question: it's all on the pronunciation.
– Colin Fine
Aug 16 '10 at 13:20
@Colin: The question was not clear to me. It seemed to be asking too different things. Just because I provided more info that may have been necessary, think twice whether that really deserves a down-vote.
– Noldorin
Aug 16 '10 at 13:33
|
show 4 more comments
up vote
22
down vote
Note: Some of this information may be extraneous, but take it for what you will!
In general, some acronyms represent nouns, others verbs or adjectives. If it represents the former, I see no problem with prefixing with an (in)definite article (a/an).
scuba
is listed as a noun (lower-case) rather than an acronym in most dictionaries these days. It is of course derived from an acronym, but has evolved into a word in its own right (laser
would be another example).
FAQ
is an acronym, but is very commonly used as a noun - "a list of frequently-asked questions".
FUBAR
has various definitions, but it's normally interpreted as an adjective (at least by the original military one).
Hence, I would happily prefix scuba
/SCUBA
with a
/an
, but definitely not FUBAR
.
All these words begin with hard consonants, and thus should always be prefixed with a
. Saying that, some people pronounce FAQ by spelling out its letters, in which case an
is appropriate. I've never heard this done with the other two.
2
When used in the military sense, "fubar" would not have a(n) before it. However, when used in other senses where it is a noun, it would be perfectly fine. It would also be fine to say, "Man, this is a fubar situation". As the article refers to the noun, "situation", which is being modified by the adjective, "fubar".
– Vincent McNabb
Aug 16 '10 at 9:26
@Vincent: Yeah, but that's slightly beside the point. I mentioned that fubar is used as an adjective, this 'a' is just applying to the 'situation'.
– Noldorin
Aug 16 '10 at 10:13
@Noldorin I agreed with your point and added extra information. You are welcome to edit your post and clarify.
– Vincent McNabb
Aug 16 '10 at 10:45
5
The question is which to use between "a" and "an", not whether to use them. The part of speech has nothing whatever to do with this question: it's all on the pronunciation.
– Colin Fine
Aug 16 '10 at 13:20
@Colin: The question was not clear to me. It seemed to be asking too different things. Just because I provided more info that may have been necessary, think twice whether that really deserves a down-vote.
– Noldorin
Aug 16 '10 at 13:33
|
show 4 more comments
up vote
22
down vote
up vote
22
down vote
Note: Some of this information may be extraneous, but take it for what you will!
In general, some acronyms represent nouns, others verbs or adjectives. If it represents the former, I see no problem with prefixing with an (in)definite article (a/an).
scuba
is listed as a noun (lower-case) rather than an acronym in most dictionaries these days. It is of course derived from an acronym, but has evolved into a word in its own right (laser
would be another example).
FAQ
is an acronym, but is very commonly used as a noun - "a list of frequently-asked questions".
FUBAR
has various definitions, but it's normally interpreted as an adjective (at least by the original military one).
Hence, I would happily prefix scuba
/SCUBA
with a
/an
, but definitely not FUBAR
.
All these words begin with hard consonants, and thus should always be prefixed with a
. Saying that, some people pronounce FAQ by spelling out its letters, in which case an
is appropriate. I've never heard this done with the other two.
Note: Some of this information may be extraneous, but take it for what you will!
In general, some acronyms represent nouns, others verbs or adjectives. If it represents the former, I see no problem with prefixing with an (in)definite article (a/an).
scuba
is listed as a noun (lower-case) rather than an acronym in most dictionaries these days. It is of course derived from an acronym, but has evolved into a word in its own right (laser
would be another example).
FAQ
is an acronym, but is very commonly used as a noun - "a list of frequently-asked questions".
FUBAR
has various definitions, but it's normally interpreted as an adjective (at least by the original military one).
Hence, I would happily prefix scuba
/SCUBA
with a
/an
, but definitely not FUBAR
.
All these words begin with hard consonants, and thus should always be prefixed with a
. Saying that, some people pronounce FAQ by spelling out its letters, in which case an
is appropriate. I've never heard this done with the other two.
edited Aug 18 '10 at 8:31
answered Aug 16 '10 at 8:19
Noldorin
10.5k24559
10.5k24559
2
When used in the military sense, "fubar" would not have a(n) before it. However, when used in other senses where it is a noun, it would be perfectly fine. It would also be fine to say, "Man, this is a fubar situation". As the article refers to the noun, "situation", which is being modified by the adjective, "fubar".
– Vincent McNabb
Aug 16 '10 at 9:26
@Vincent: Yeah, but that's slightly beside the point. I mentioned that fubar is used as an adjective, this 'a' is just applying to the 'situation'.
– Noldorin
Aug 16 '10 at 10:13
@Noldorin I agreed with your point and added extra information. You are welcome to edit your post and clarify.
– Vincent McNabb
Aug 16 '10 at 10:45
5
The question is which to use between "a" and "an", not whether to use them. The part of speech has nothing whatever to do with this question: it's all on the pronunciation.
– Colin Fine
Aug 16 '10 at 13:20
@Colin: The question was not clear to me. It seemed to be asking too different things. Just because I provided more info that may have been necessary, think twice whether that really deserves a down-vote.
– Noldorin
Aug 16 '10 at 13:33
|
show 4 more comments
2
When used in the military sense, "fubar" would not have a(n) before it. However, when used in other senses where it is a noun, it would be perfectly fine. It would also be fine to say, "Man, this is a fubar situation". As the article refers to the noun, "situation", which is being modified by the adjective, "fubar".
– Vincent McNabb
Aug 16 '10 at 9:26
@Vincent: Yeah, but that's slightly beside the point. I mentioned that fubar is used as an adjective, this 'a' is just applying to the 'situation'.
– Noldorin
Aug 16 '10 at 10:13
@Noldorin I agreed with your point and added extra information. You are welcome to edit your post and clarify.
– Vincent McNabb
Aug 16 '10 at 10:45
5
The question is which to use between "a" and "an", not whether to use them. The part of speech has nothing whatever to do with this question: it's all on the pronunciation.
– Colin Fine
Aug 16 '10 at 13:20
@Colin: The question was not clear to me. It seemed to be asking too different things. Just because I provided more info that may have been necessary, think twice whether that really deserves a down-vote.
– Noldorin
Aug 16 '10 at 13:33
2
2
When used in the military sense, "fubar" would not have a(n) before it. However, when used in other senses where it is a noun, it would be perfectly fine. It would also be fine to say, "Man, this is a fubar situation". As the article refers to the noun, "situation", which is being modified by the adjective, "fubar".
– Vincent McNabb
Aug 16 '10 at 9:26
When used in the military sense, "fubar" would not have a(n) before it. However, when used in other senses where it is a noun, it would be perfectly fine. It would also be fine to say, "Man, this is a fubar situation". As the article refers to the noun, "situation", which is being modified by the adjective, "fubar".
– Vincent McNabb
Aug 16 '10 at 9:26
@Vincent: Yeah, but that's slightly beside the point. I mentioned that fubar is used as an adjective, this 'a' is just applying to the 'situation'.
– Noldorin
Aug 16 '10 at 10:13
@Vincent: Yeah, but that's slightly beside the point. I mentioned that fubar is used as an adjective, this 'a' is just applying to the 'situation'.
– Noldorin
Aug 16 '10 at 10:13
@Noldorin I agreed with your point and added extra information. You are welcome to edit your post and clarify.
– Vincent McNabb
Aug 16 '10 at 10:45
@Noldorin I agreed with your point and added extra information. You are welcome to edit your post and clarify.
– Vincent McNabb
Aug 16 '10 at 10:45
5
5
The question is which to use between "a" and "an", not whether to use them. The part of speech has nothing whatever to do with this question: it's all on the pronunciation.
– Colin Fine
Aug 16 '10 at 13:20
The question is which to use between "a" and "an", not whether to use them. The part of speech has nothing whatever to do with this question: it's all on the pronunciation.
– Colin Fine
Aug 16 '10 at 13:20
@Colin: The question was not clear to me. It seemed to be asking too different things. Just because I provided more info that may have been necessary, think twice whether that really deserves a down-vote.
– Noldorin
Aug 16 '10 at 13:33
@Colin: The question was not clear to me. It seemed to be asking too different things. Just because I provided more info that may have been necessary, think twice whether that really deserves a down-vote.
– Noldorin
Aug 16 '10 at 13:33
|
show 4 more comments
up vote
18
down vote
Vincent McNabb is correct. If you want evidence based on "credible and/or official sources" that this is the rule followed in formal English writing, here is my suggestion.
I ran Google searches on Google Books only, meaning the bulk of the search will be against professionally edited and published works, not random web sites. I searched only for phrases where the pronunciation of the acronym was relatively clear and consistent: for example, nobody pronounces "SCUBA" as "Ess Cee Yew Bee Ay" and nobody pronounces "FBI" as "Fibbi."
Here are the number of hits in the Google Books database for:
- "A SCUBA": 49,800
- "An SCUBA": 56
- "A FBI": 16,000
- "An FBI": 343,000
- "A NASA": 264,000
- "An NASA": 16,500
- "A RGB": 7,130
- "An RGB": 33,800
- "A UPC": 11,800
- "An UPC": 436
In each case, basing the article on the initial sound, rather than on the initial letter, is more common; in most cases substantially more common.
As a control, I also looked at two acronyms where both the initial sound and the initial letter are consonants.
- "A VPN": 50,100
- "An VPN": 960
- "A OCR": 9,380
- "An OCR": 1,870,000
Because "An VPN" and "A OCR" are incorrect based on any possible rule, we can conclude that the positive results are grammatical, OCR, or search engine errors. This suggests that the minority viewpoint on SCUBA, FBI, NASA, RGB and UPC are also smaller than they appear.
We can conclude that, based on evidence of usage among published documents digitized by Google Books, the preferred rule is to base the article on how the intended pronunciation of the acronym would be spelled phonetically.
add a comment |
up vote
18
down vote
Vincent McNabb is correct. If you want evidence based on "credible and/or official sources" that this is the rule followed in formal English writing, here is my suggestion.
I ran Google searches on Google Books only, meaning the bulk of the search will be against professionally edited and published works, not random web sites. I searched only for phrases where the pronunciation of the acronym was relatively clear and consistent: for example, nobody pronounces "SCUBA" as "Ess Cee Yew Bee Ay" and nobody pronounces "FBI" as "Fibbi."
Here are the number of hits in the Google Books database for:
- "A SCUBA": 49,800
- "An SCUBA": 56
- "A FBI": 16,000
- "An FBI": 343,000
- "A NASA": 264,000
- "An NASA": 16,500
- "A RGB": 7,130
- "An RGB": 33,800
- "A UPC": 11,800
- "An UPC": 436
In each case, basing the article on the initial sound, rather than on the initial letter, is more common; in most cases substantially more common.
As a control, I also looked at two acronyms where both the initial sound and the initial letter are consonants.
- "A VPN": 50,100
- "An VPN": 960
- "A OCR": 9,380
- "An OCR": 1,870,000
Because "An VPN" and "A OCR" are incorrect based on any possible rule, we can conclude that the positive results are grammatical, OCR, or search engine errors. This suggests that the minority viewpoint on SCUBA, FBI, NASA, RGB and UPC are also smaller than they appear.
We can conclude that, based on evidence of usage among published documents digitized by Google Books, the preferred rule is to base the article on how the intended pronunciation of the acronym would be spelled phonetically.
add a comment |
up vote
18
down vote
up vote
18
down vote
Vincent McNabb is correct. If you want evidence based on "credible and/or official sources" that this is the rule followed in formal English writing, here is my suggestion.
I ran Google searches on Google Books only, meaning the bulk of the search will be against professionally edited and published works, not random web sites. I searched only for phrases where the pronunciation of the acronym was relatively clear and consistent: for example, nobody pronounces "SCUBA" as "Ess Cee Yew Bee Ay" and nobody pronounces "FBI" as "Fibbi."
Here are the number of hits in the Google Books database for:
- "A SCUBA": 49,800
- "An SCUBA": 56
- "A FBI": 16,000
- "An FBI": 343,000
- "A NASA": 264,000
- "An NASA": 16,500
- "A RGB": 7,130
- "An RGB": 33,800
- "A UPC": 11,800
- "An UPC": 436
In each case, basing the article on the initial sound, rather than on the initial letter, is more common; in most cases substantially more common.
As a control, I also looked at two acronyms where both the initial sound and the initial letter are consonants.
- "A VPN": 50,100
- "An VPN": 960
- "A OCR": 9,380
- "An OCR": 1,870,000
Because "An VPN" and "A OCR" are incorrect based on any possible rule, we can conclude that the positive results are grammatical, OCR, or search engine errors. This suggests that the minority viewpoint on SCUBA, FBI, NASA, RGB and UPC are also smaller than they appear.
We can conclude that, based on evidence of usage among published documents digitized by Google Books, the preferred rule is to base the article on how the intended pronunciation of the acronym would be spelled phonetically.
Vincent McNabb is correct. If you want evidence based on "credible and/or official sources" that this is the rule followed in formal English writing, here is my suggestion.
I ran Google searches on Google Books only, meaning the bulk of the search will be against professionally edited and published works, not random web sites. I searched only for phrases where the pronunciation of the acronym was relatively clear and consistent: for example, nobody pronounces "SCUBA" as "Ess Cee Yew Bee Ay" and nobody pronounces "FBI" as "Fibbi."
Here are the number of hits in the Google Books database for:
- "A SCUBA": 49,800
- "An SCUBA": 56
- "A FBI": 16,000
- "An FBI": 343,000
- "A NASA": 264,000
- "An NASA": 16,500
- "A RGB": 7,130
- "An RGB": 33,800
- "A UPC": 11,800
- "An UPC": 436
In each case, basing the article on the initial sound, rather than on the initial letter, is more common; in most cases substantially more common.
As a control, I also looked at two acronyms where both the initial sound and the initial letter are consonants.
- "A VPN": 50,100
- "An VPN": 960
- "A OCR": 9,380
- "An OCR": 1,870,000
Because "An VPN" and "A OCR" are incorrect based on any possible rule, we can conclude that the positive results are grammatical, OCR, or search engine errors. This suggests that the minority viewpoint on SCUBA, FBI, NASA, RGB and UPC are also smaller than they appear.
We can conclude that, based on evidence of usage among published documents digitized by Google Books, the preferred rule is to base the article on how the intended pronunciation of the acronym would be spelled phonetically.
answered Apr 9 '14 at 18:16
chapka
3,98811222
3,98811222
add a comment |
add a comment |
up vote
15
down vote
It doesn't make any difference at all whether the article is modifying an acronym, an initialism, a proper noun, a French borrowing, or anything else. English article form is determined solely and entirely by pronunciation. And not at all by spelling.
The rule for the pronunciation of articles in English -- definite and indefinite -- is that they have one form before consonants (note, real consonants -- sounds -- not "letters" in a writing system), and a different form before vowels (ditto).
Hence, how you say it is what counts. Nothing else does.
Before vowels -- Indefinite an /ən/ and Definite the /ði/:
an hour, an SOS, an A-to-Z selection, an EE degree, an idiot
the hour, the SOS, the A-to-Z selection, the EE degree, the idiot (all pronounced /ði/)Before consonants -- Indefinite a /ə/ and Definite the /ðə/:
a URL, a snafu, a Charlie Foxtrot, a moron
the URL, the snafu, the Charlie Foxtrot, the moron (all pronounced /ðə/)
Most native English speakers never notice that there are two different pronunciations for the, but non-native English speakers need to know this immediately.
1
I believe there are three pronunciations.
– Edwin Ashworth
Mar 26 '14 at 16:55
add a comment |
up vote
15
down vote
It doesn't make any difference at all whether the article is modifying an acronym, an initialism, a proper noun, a French borrowing, or anything else. English article form is determined solely and entirely by pronunciation. And not at all by spelling.
The rule for the pronunciation of articles in English -- definite and indefinite -- is that they have one form before consonants (note, real consonants -- sounds -- not "letters" in a writing system), and a different form before vowels (ditto).
Hence, how you say it is what counts. Nothing else does.
Before vowels -- Indefinite an /ən/ and Definite the /ði/:
an hour, an SOS, an A-to-Z selection, an EE degree, an idiot
the hour, the SOS, the A-to-Z selection, the EE degree, the idiot (all pronounced /ði/)Before consonants -- Indefinite a /ə/ and Definite the /ðə/:
a URL, a snafu, a Charlie Foxtrot, a moron
the URL, the snafu, the Charlie Foxtrot, the moron (all pronounced /ðə/)
Most native English speakers never notice that there are two different pronunciations for the, but non-native English speakers need to know this immediately.
1
I believe there are three pronunciations.
– Edwin Ashworth
Mar 26 '14 at 16:55
add a comment |
up vote
15
down vote
up vote
15
down vote
It doesn't make any difference at all whether the article is modifying an acronym, an initialism, a proper noun, a French borrowing, or anything else. English article form is determined solely and entirely by pronunciation. And not at all by spelling.
The rule for the pronunciation of articles in English -- definite and indefinite -- is that they have one form before consonants (note, real consonants -- sounds -- not "letters" in a writing system), and a different form before vowels (ditto).
Hence, how you say it is what counts. Nothing else does.
Before vowels -- Indefinite an /ən/ and Definite the /ði/:
an hour, an SOS, an A-to-Z selection, an EE degree, an idiot
the hour, the SOS, the A-to-Z selection, the EE degree, the idiot (all pronounced /ði/)Before consonants -- Indefinite a /ə/ and Definite the /ðə/:
a URL, a snafu, a Charlie Foxtrot, a moron
the URL, the snafu, the Charlie Foxtrot, the moron (all pronounced /ðə/)
Most native English speakers never notice that there are two different pronunciations for the, but non-native English speakers need to know this immediately.
It doesn't make any difference at all whether the article is modifying an acronym, an initialism, a proper noun, a French borrowing, or anything else. English article form is determined solely and entirely by pronunciation. And not at all by spelling.
The rule for the pronunciation of articles in English -- definite and indefinite -- is that they have one form before consonants (note, real consonants -- sounds -- not "letters" in a writing system), and a different form before vowels (ditto).
Hence, how you say it is what counts. Nothing else does.
Before vowels -- Indefinite an /ən/ and Definite the /ði/:
an hour, an SOS, an A-to-Z selection, an EE degree, an idiot
the hour, the SOS, the A-to-Z selection, the EE degree, the idiot (all pronounced /ði/)Before consonants -- Indefinite a /ə/ and Definite the /ðə/:
a URL, a snafu, a Charlie Foxtrot, a moron
the URL, the snafu, the Charlie Foxtrot, the moron (all pronounced /ðə/)
Most native English speakers never notice that there are two different pronunciations for the, but non-native English speakers need to know this immediately.
answered Apr 10 '13 at 22:57
John Lawler
84k6116328
84k6116328
1
I believe there are three pronunciations.
– Edwin Ashworth
Mar 26 '14 at 16:55
add a comment |
1
I believe there are three pronunciations.
– Edwin Ashworth
Mar 26 '14 at 16:55
1
1
I believe there are three pronunciations.
– Edwin Ashworth
Mar 26 '14 at 16:55
I believe there are three pronunciations.
– Edwin Ashworth
Mar 26 '14 at 16:55
add a comment |
up vote
5
down vote
Like @Vincent McNabb said, it is a question of whether the word is used as an initialism (like HTML) or a acronym. When in doubt, as with FAQ, I would defer to the initialism form ("a FAQ") as it suggests in Wikipedia:
There is also some disagreement as to what to call abbreviations that some speakers pronounce as letters and others pronounce as a word. For example, the terms URL and IRA can be pronounced as individual letters: /ˌjuːˌɑrˈɛl/ and /ˌaɪˌɑrˈeɪ/, respectively; or as a single word: /ˈɜrl/ and /ˈaɪərə/, respectively. Such constructions, however—regardless of how they are pronounced—if formed from initials, may be identified as initialisms without controversy.
add a comment |
up vote
5
down vote
Like @Vincent McNabb said, it is a question of whether the word is used as an initialism (like HTML) or a acronym. When in doubt, as with FAQ, I would defer to the initialism form ("a FAQ") as it suggests in Wikipedia:
There is also some disagreement as to what to call abbreviations that some speakers pronounce as letters and others pronounce as a word. For example, the terms URL and IRA can be pronounced as individual letters: /ˌjuːˌɑrˈɛl/ and /ˌaɪˌɑrˈeɪ/, respectively; or as a single word: /ˈɜrl/ and /ˈaɪərə/, respectively. Such constructions, however—regardless of how they are pronounced—if formed from initials, may be identified as initialisms without controversy.
add a comment |
up vote
5
down vote
up vote
5
down vote
Like @Vincent McNabb said, it is a question of whether the word is used as an initialism (like HTML) or a acronym. When in doubt, as with FAQ, I would defer to the initialism form ("a FAQ") as it suggests in Wikipedia:
There is also some disagreement as to what to call abbreviations that some speakers pronounce as letters and others pronounce as a word. For example, the terms URL and IRA can be pronounced as individual letters: /ˌjuːˌɑrˈɛl/ and /ˌaɪˌɑrˈeɪ/, respectively; or as a single word: /ˈɜrl/ and /ˈaɪərə/, respectively. Such constructions, however—regardless of how they are pronounced—if formed from initials, may be identified as initialisms without controversy.
Like @Vincent McNabb said, it is a question of whether the word is used as an initialism (like HTML) or a acronym. When in doubt, as with FAQ, I would defer to the initialism form ("a FAQ") as it suggests in Wikipedia:
There is also some disagreement as to what to call abbreviations that some speakers pronounce as letters and others pronounce as a word. For example, the terms URL and IRA can be pronounced as individual letters: /ˌjuːˌɑrˈɛl/ and /ˌaɪˌɑrˈeɪ/, respectively; or as a single word: /ˈɜrl/ and /ˈaɪərə/, respectively. Such constructions, however—regardless of how they are pronounced—if formed from initials, may be identified as initialisms without controversy.
answered Nov 7 '11 at 21:37
Lynn
16k54383
16k54383
add a comment |
add a comment |
up vote
3
down vote
Edit:
I originally posted this answer to the question Is there an exceptional use of the article ‘a/an’? which has been merged with this one. The acronyms FTA and FC I refer to below are from that question.
Original answer:
It is exactly as you said: an is used before words beginning with a vowel sound, not necessarily a vowel letter.
The acronyms you mentioned both begin with vowel sounds (/ɛf.tiˈeɪ̯/, /ɛfˈsiː/), so an is used before them. There are also words and acronyms that begin with a vowel letter, but not with a vowel sound: a UAV (/ju.eɪ̯ˈviː/), a union (/ˈjuːnjən/).
It depends on the pronunciation of the following word (not its spelling) whether you use a or an.
Thank you so much! Your detailed explanation and examples also helped me solve my curiosity :) Have a good day
– Nayeong Kim
Nov 12 at 10:28
add a comment |
up vote
3
down vote
Edit:
I originally posted this answer to the question Is there an exceptional use of the article ‘a/an’? which has been merged with this one. The acronyms FTA and FC I refer to below are from that question.
Original answer:
It is exactly as you said: an is used before words beginning with a vowel sound, not necessarily a vowel letter.
The acronyms you mentioned both begin with vowel sounds (/ɛf.tiˈeɪ̯/, /ɛfˈsiː/), so an is used before them. There are also words and acronyms that begin with a vowel letter, but not with a vowel sound: a UAV (/ju.eɪ̯ˈviː/), a union (/ˈjuːnjən/).
It depends on the pronunciation of the following word (not its spelling) whether you use a or an.
Thank you so much! Your detailed explanation and examples also helped me solve my curiosity :) Have a good day
– Nayeong Kim
Nov 12 at 10:28
add a comment |
up vote
3
down vote
up vote
3
down vote
Edit:
I originally posted this answer to the question Is there an exceptional use of the article ‘a/an’? which has been merged with this one. The acronyms FTA and FC I refer to below are from that question.
Original answer:
It is exactly as you said: an is used before words beginning with a vowel sound, not necessarily a vowel letter.
The acronyms you mentioned both begin with vowel sounds (/ɛf.tiˈeɪ̯/, /ɛfˈsiː/), so an is used before them. There are also words and acronyms that begin with a vowel letter, but not with a vowel sound: a UAV (/ju.eɪ̯ˈviː/), a union (/ˈjuːnjən/).
It depends on the pronunciation of the following word (not its spelling) whether you use a or an.
Edit:
I originally posted this answer to the question Is there an exceptional use of the article ‘a/an’? which has been merged with this one. The acronyms FTA and FC I refer to below are from that question.
Original answer:
It is exactly as you said: an is used before words beginning with a vowel sound, not necessarily a vowel letter.
The acronyms you mentioned both begin with vowel sounds (/ɛf.tiˈeɪ̯/, /ɛfˈsiː/), so an is used before them. There are also words and acronyms that begin with a vowel letter, but not with a vowel sound: a UAV (/ju.eɪ̯ˈviː/), a union (/ˈjuːnjən/).
It depends on the pronunciation of the following word (not its spelling) whether you use a or an.
edited Nov 12 at 13:22
answered Nov 12 at 10:24
Lukas G
1064
1064
Thank you so much! Your detailed explanation and examples also helped me solve my curiosity :) Have a good day
– Nayeong Kim
Nov 12 at 10:28
add a comment |
Thank you so much! Your detailed explanation and examples also helped me solve my curiosity :) Have a good day
– Nayeong Kim
Nov 12 at 10:28
Thank you so much! Your detailed explanation and examples also helped me solve my curiosity :) Have a good day
– Nayeong Kim
Nov 12 at 10:28
Thank you so much! Your detailed explanation and examples also helped me solve my curiosity :) Have a good day
– Nayeong Kim
Nov 12 at 10:28
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
Compare with an umbrella uttered as /əmˈbrelə/, versus a university uttered as /juːnɪˈvɜːsɪtɪ/. Though both begin with the same written vowel, they have a different sound at the beginning. Umbrella has a schwa, while university has a 'you'. It is the sounds rather that the written vowel that drive the choice of 'a' or 'an'.
It is similar with your question. "An Eff Tee Ay" or "an Eff See". It is the spoken'Eff', uttered with a vowel sound as /ef/, that drives the use of 'an' even though [f] is listed as a consonant.
Your answer is rly informative and helpful :) Thx!!
– Nayeong Kim
Nov 12 at 10:36
You are welcome.
– Roaring Fish
Nov 12 at 10:47
You might have to add the link to the duplicate question. The post has since been merged with the much older question.
– Mari-Lou A
Nov 12 at 16:18
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
Compare with an umbrella uttered as /əmˈbrelə/, versus a university uttered as /juːnɪˈvɜːsɪtɪ/. Though both begin with the same written vowel, they have a different sound at the beginning. Umbrella has a schwa, while university has a 'you'. It is the sounds rather that the written vowel that drive the choice of 'a' or 'an'.
It is similar with your question. "An Eff Tee Ay" or "an Eff See". It is the spoken'Eff', uttered with a vowel sound as /ef/, that drives the use of 'an' even though [f] is listed as a consonant.
Your answer is rly informative and helpful :) Thx!!
– Nayeong Kim
Nov 12 at 10:36
You are welcome.
– Roaring Fish
Nov 12 at 10:47
You might have to add the link to the duplicate question. The post has since been merged with the much older question.
– Mari-Lou A
Nov 12 at 16:18
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
Compare with an umbrella uttered as /əmˈbrelə/, versus a university uttered as /juːnɪˈvɜːsɪtɪ/. Though both begin with the same written vowel, they have a different sound at the beginning. Umbrella has a schwa, while university has a 'you'. It is the sounds rather that the written vowel that drive the choice of 'a' or 'an'.
It is similar with your question. "An Eff Tee Ay" or "an Eff See". It is the spoken'Eff', uttered with a vowel sound as /ef/, that drives the use of 'an' even though [f] is listed as a consonant.
Compare with an umbrella uttered as /əmˈbrelə/, versus a university uttered as /juːnɪˈvɜːsɪtɪ/. Though both begin with the same written vowel, they have a different sound at the beginning. Umbrella has a schwa, while university has a 'you'. It is the sounds rather that the written vowel that drive the choice of 'a' or 'an'.
It is similar with your question. "An Eff Tee Ay" or "an Eff See". It is the spoken'Eff', uttered with a vowel sound as /ef/, that drives the use of 'an' even though [f] is listed as a consonant.
edited Nov 12 at 10:46
answered Nov 12 at 10:29
Roaring Fish
14.2k12353
14.2k12353
Your answer is rly informative and helpful :) Thx!!
– Nayeong Kim
Nov 12 at 10:36
You are welcome.
– Roaring Fish
Nov 12 at 10:47
You might have to add the link to the duplicate question. The post has since been merged with the much older question.
– Mari-Lou A
Nov 12 at 16:18
add a comment |
Your answer is rly informative and helpful :) Thx!!
– Nayeong Kim
Nov 12 at 10:36
You are welcome.
– Roaring Fish
Nov 12 at 10:47
You might have to add the link to the duplicate question. The post has since been merged with the much older question.
– Mari-Lou A
Nov 12 at 16:18
Your answer is rly informative and helpful :) Thx!!
– Nayeong Kim
Nov 12 at 10:36
Your answer is rly informative and helpful :) Thx!!
– Nayeong Kim
Nov 12 at 10:36
You are welcome.
– Roaring Fish
Nov 12 at 10:47
You are welcome.
– Roaring Fish
Nov 12 at 10:47
You might have to add the link to the duplicate question. The post has since been merged with the much older question.
– Mari-Lou A
Nov 12 at 16:18
You might have to add the link to the duplicate question. The post has since been merged with the much older question.
– Mari-Lou A
Nov 12 at 16:18
add a comment |
protected by RegDwigнt♦ Feb 4 '12 at 18:17
Thank you for your interest in this question.
Because it has attracted low-quality or spam answers that had to be removed, posting an answer now requires 10 reputation on this site (the association bonus does not count).
Would you like to answer one of these unanswered questions instead?
8
"An RPG". The controlling factor is whether it's spoken with a vowel sound. (So "an hour", "a unicorn", etc.)
– chaos
Feb 6 '11 at 4:46
25
This does raise questions about when there are multiple common pronunciations of the acronym. Like "SQL" is sometimes pronounced "es-kew-el", and sometimes "sequel". The former would call for "an" and the latter for "a". I think, though, that we always choose "a" or "an" based on pronunciation of the acronym and not the spelled-out words, e.g. "an SST", as in "an ess-ess-tee", not "a supersonic transport".
– Jay
Sep 30 '11 at 14:32
6
@Jay SQL: In which case the writer picks their own style (or follows the in-house style) and uses it consistently.
– Hugo
Sep 30 '11 at 15:10
6
Or rephrases all sentences with SQL to avoid putting either "a" or "an" in front of it.
– yoozer8
Sep 30 '11 at 17:25
6
@Jim: While I admit to sometimes rephrasing a sentence to avoid a spelling or grammar problem, that is the coward's way out!
– Jay
Oct 4 '11 at 15:09