What does “You're as bad as the old Irish woman who took the two pills to be sure, to be sure…” mean?












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What does "You're as bad as the old Irish woman who took the two pills to be sure, to be sure..." mean? And if you know what it means, can you also specify the origin of this phrase?



To be more specific about the context, I've heard it here: http://youtu.be/BfI9rJ0toWA?t=1m2s










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  • Sure it is supposed to be bad :) corrected, sorry...
    – RaS
    Jan 7 '14 at 21:00








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    It's an ethnic joke: the [Irish/Polish/Hoosier] woman who took two [birth control pills/laxatives/sleeping draughts] to be sure ... the second to be sure is a Stage Irishism. It's been floating around the internet for at least ten years.
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  • @StoneyB - I, too, would have guessed two birth control pills (as one is bad enough in Irish Catholicism), but the lady is "old", hence she should not be fertile.
    – anongoodnurse
    Jan 7 '14 at 21:26










  • Nota bene: "what means X" is the exact opposite of "what does X mean". You are looking for the latter.
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    Jan 7 '14 at 21:34






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    @Susan Faith, an d'ye think that th' bosthoons that crack jokes o' this sort have the wit to see that?
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What does "You're as bad as the old Irish woman who took the two pills to be sure, to be sure..." mean? And if you know what it means, can you also specify the origin of this phrase?



To be more specific about the context, I've heard it here: http://youtu.be/BfI9rJ0toWA?t=1m2s










share|improve this question
























  • Sure it is supposed to be bad :) corrected, sorry...
    – RaS
    Jan 7 '14 at 21:00








  • 1




    It's an ethnic joke: the [Irish/Polish/Hoosier] woman who took two [birth control pills/laxatives/sleeping draughts] to be sure ... the second to be sure is a Stage Irishism. It's been floating around the internet for at least ten years.
    – StoneyB
    Jan 7 '14 at 21:09












  • @StoneyB - I, too, would have guessed two birth control pills (as one is bad enough in Irish Catholicism), but the lady is "old", hence she should not be fertile.
    – anongoodnurse
    Jan 7 '14 at 21:26










  • Nota bene: "what means X" is the exact opposite of "what does X mean". You are looking for the latter.
    – RegDwigнt
    Jan 7 '14 at 21:34






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    @Susan Faith, an d'ye think that th' bosthoons that crack jokes o' this sort have the wit to see that?
    – StoneyB
    Jan 7 '14 at 22:05














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What does "You're as bad as the old Irish woman who took the two pills to be sure, to be sure..." mean? And if you know what it means, can you also specify the origin of this phrase?



To be more specific about the context, I've heard it here: http://youtu.be/BfI9rJ0toWA?t=1m2s










share|improve this question















What does "You're as bad as the old Irish woman who took the two pills to be sure, to be sure..." mean? And if you know what it means, can you also specify the origin of this phrase?



To be more specific about the context, I've heard it here: http://youtu.be/BfI9rJ0toWA?t=1m2s







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  • Sure it is supposed to be bad :) corrected, sorry...
    – RaS
    Jan 7 '14 at 21:00








  • 1




    It's an ethnic joke: the [Irish/Polish/Hoosier] woman who took two [birth control pills/laxatives/sleeping draughts] to be sure ... the second to be sure is a Stage Irishism. It's been floating around the internet for at least ten years.
    – StoneyB
    Jan 7 '14 at 21:09












  • @StoneyB - I, too, would have guessed two birth control pills (as one is bad enough in Irish Catholicism), but the lady is "old", hence she should not be fertile.
    – anongoodnurse
    Jan 7 '14 at 21:26










  • Nota bene: "what means X" is the exact opposite of "what does X mean". You are looking for the latter.
    – RegDwigнt
    Jan 7 '14 at 21:34






  • 1




    @Susan Faith, an d'ye think that th' bosthoons that crack jokes o' this sort have the wit to see that?
    – StoneyB
    Jan 7 '14 at 22:05


















  • Sure it is supposed to be bad :) corrected, sorry...
    – RaS
    Jan 7 '14 at 21:00








  • 1




    It's an ethnic joke: the [Irish/Polish/Hoosier] woman who took two [birth control pills/laxatives/sleeping draughts] to be sure ... the second to be sure is a Stage Irishism. It's been floating around the internet for at least ten years.
    – StoneyB
    Jan 7 '14 at 21:09












  • @StoneyB - I, too, would have guessed two birth control pills (as one is bad enough in Irish Catholicism), but the lady is "old", hence she should not be fertile.
    – anongoodnurse
    Jan 7 '14 at 21:26










  • Nota bene: "what means X" is the exact opposite of "what does X mean". You are looking for the latter.
    – RegDwigнt
    Jan 7 '14 at 21:34






  • 1




    @Susan Faith, an d'ye think that th' bosthoons that crack jokes o' this sort have the wit to see that?
    – StoneyB
    Jan 7 '14 at 22:05
















Sure it is supposed to be bad :) corrected, sorry...
– RaS
Jan 7 '14 at 21:00






Sure it is supposed to be bad :) corrected, sorry...
– RaS
Jan 7 '14 at 21:00






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It's an ethnic joke: the [Irish/Polish/Hoosier] woman who took two [birth control pills/laxatives/sleeping draughts] to be sure ... the second to be sure is a Stage Irishism. It's been floating around the internet for at least ten years.
– StoneyB
Jan 7 '14 at 21:09






It's an ethnic joke: the [Irish/Polish/Hoosier] woman who took two [birth control pills/laxatives/sleeping draughts] to be sure ... the second to be sure is a Stage Irishism. It's been floating around the internet for at least ten years.
– StoneyB
Jan 7 '14 at 21:09














@StoneyB - I, too, would have guessed two birth control pills (as one is bad enough in Irish Catholicism), but the lady is "old", hence she should not be fertile.
– anongoodnurse
Jan 7 '14 at 21:26




@StoneyB - I, too, would have guessed two birth control pills (as one is bad enough in Irish Catholicism), but the lady is "old", hence she should not be fertile.
– anongoodnurse
Jan 7 '14 at 21:26












Nota bene: "what means X" is the exact opposite of "what does X mean". You are looking for the latter.
– RegDwigнt
Jan 7 '14 at 21:34




Nota bene: "what means X" is the exact opposite of "what does X mean". You are looking for the latter.
– RegDwigнt
Jan 7 '14 at 21:34




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@Susan Faith, an d'ye think that th' bosthoons that crack jokes o' this sort have the wit to see that?
– StoneyB
Jan 7 '14 at 22:05




@Susan Faith, an d'ye think that th' bosthoons that crack jokes o' this sort have the wit to see that?
– StoneyB
Jan 7 '14 at 22:05










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"You're as bad as the old Irish woman who took the two pills to be sure, to be sure..." ?



Reduplication is an alleged trait of [Hiberno-English](to be sure, to be sure...) (Irish-English) strongly associated with stage-Irish and Hollywood films.



The first pill, she took to be sure, and the second, she also took to be sure, so together, she took two pills to be sure, to be sure...



There appears to be no idiom here. It must be from a book or other single source, wherein the meaning of this particular use may be found.



I can make a guess that it means one is as mistrustful as the old Irish woman who didn't trust that one pill would do the job, so she took two, but this is only a guess.






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  • I believe, that it may be more like combination of ethnic joke and your anwer, I've heard it here: youtu.be/BfI9rJ0toWA?t=1m2s. What do you think @Susan?
    – RaS
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  • @MartinDiner - what a fun clip! You're correct, to be sure, to be sure. :)
    – anongoodnurse
    Jan 7 '14 at 21:36



















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It’s most definitely an Irish joke about an old senile Irish Catholic woman who forgets she is too old to conceive children and taking birth control goes against her religion. Despite all this she takes the pill twice because she is so forgetful.



So it is a witty comical insult about being forgetful.






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    "You're as bad as the old Irish woman who took the two pills to be sure, to be sure..." ?



    Reduplication is an alleged trait of [Hiberno-English](to be sure, to be sure...) (Irish-English) strongly associated with stage-Irish and Hollywood films.



    The first pill, she took to be sure, and the second, she also took to be sure, so together, she took two pills to be sure, to be sure...



    There appears to be no idiom here. It must be from a book or other single source, wherein the meaning of this particular use may be found.



    I can make a guess that it means one is as mistrustful as the old Irish woman who didn't trust that one pill would do the job, so she took two, but this is only a guess.






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    • I believe, that it may be more like combination of ethnic joke and your anwer, I've heard it here: youtu.be/BfI9rJ0toWA?t=1m2s. What do you think @Susan?
      – RaS
      Jan 7 '14 at 21:32










    • @MartinDiner - what a fun clip! You're correct, to be sure, to be sure. :)
      – anongoodnurse
      Jan 7 '14 at 21:36
















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    "You're as bad as the old Irish woman who took the two pills to be sure, to be sure..." ?



    Reduplication is an alleged trait of [Hiberno-English](to be sure, to be sure...) (Irish-English) strongly associated with stage-Irish and Hollywood films.



    The first pill, she took to be sure, and the second, she also took to be sure, so together, she took two pills to be sure, to be sure...



    There appears to be no idiom here. It must be from a book or other single source, wherein the meaning of this particular use may be found.



    I can make a guess that it means one is as mistrustful as the old Irish woman who didn't trust that one pill would do the job, so she took two, but this is only a guess.






    share|improve this answer





















    • I believe, that it may be more like combination of ethnic joke and your anwer, I've heard it here: youtu.be/BfI9rJ0toWA?t=1m2s. What do you think @Susan?
      – RaS
      Jan 7 '14 at 21:32










    • @MartinDiner - what a fun clip! You're correct, to be sure, to be sure. :)
      – anongoodnurse
      Jan 7 '14 at 21:36














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    "You're as bad as the old Irish woman who took the two pills to be sure, to be sure..." ?



    Reduplication is an alleged trait of [Hiberno-English](to be sure, to be sure...) (Irish-English) strongly associated with stage-Irish and Hollywood films.



    The first pill, she took to be sure, and the second, she also took to be sure, so together, she took two pills to be sure, to be sure...



    There appears to be no idiom here. It must be from a book or other single source, wherein the meaning of this particular use may be found.



    I can make a guess that it means one is as mistrustful as the old Irish woman who didn't trust that one pill would do the job, so she took two, but this is only a guess.






    share|improve this answer












    "You're as bad as the old Irish woman who took the two pills to be sure, to be sure..." ?



    Reduplication is an alleged trait of [Hiberno-English](to be sure, to be sure...) (Irish-English) strongly associated with stage-Irish and Hollywood films.



    The first pill, she took to be sure, and the second, she also took to be sure, so together, she took two pills to be sure, to be sure...



    There appears to be no idiom here. It must be from a book or other single source, wherein the meaning of this particular use may be found.



    I can make a guess that it means one is as mistrustful as the old Irish woman who didn't trust that one pill would do the job, so she took two, but this is only a guess.







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    • I believe, that it may be more like combination of ethnic joke and your anwer, I've heard it here: youtu.be/BfI9rJ0toWA?t=1m2s. What do you think @Susan?
      – RaS
      Jan 7 '14 at 21:32










    • @MartinDiner - what a fun clip! You're correct, to be sure, to be sure. :)
      – anongoodnurse
      Jan 7 '14 at 21:36


















    • I believe, that it may be more like combination of ethnic joke and your anwer, I've heard it here: youtu.be/BfI9rJ0toWA?t=1m2s. What do you think @Susan?
      – RaS
      Jan 7 '14 at 21:32










    • @MartinDiner - what a fun clip! You're correct, to be sure, to be sure. :)
      – anongoodnurse
      Jan 7 '14 at 21:36
















    I believe, that it may be more like combination of ethnic joke and your anwer, I've heard it here: youtu.be/BfI9rJ0toWA?t=1m2s. What do you think @Susan?
    – RaS
    Jan 7 '14 at 21:32




    I believe, that it may be more like combination of ethnic joke and your anwer, I've heard it here: youtu.be/BfI9rJ0toWA?t=1m2s. What do you think @Susan?
    – RaS
    Jan 7 '14 at 21:32












    @MartinDiner - what a fun clip! You're correct, to be sure, to be sure. :)
    – anongoodnurse
    Jan 7 '14 at 21:36




    @MartinDiner - what a fun clip! You're correct, to be sure, to be sure. :)
    – anongoodnurse
    Jan 7 '14 at 21:36













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    It’s most definitely an Irish joke about an old senile Irish Catholic woman who forgets she is too old to conceive children and taking birth control goes against her religion. Despite all this she takes the pill twice because she is so forgetful.



    So it is a witty comical insult about being forgetful.






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      It’s most definitely an Irish joke about an old senile Irish Catholic woman who forgets she is too old to conceive children and taking birth control goes against her religion. Despite all this she takes the pill twice because she is so forgetful.



      So it is a witty comical insult about being forgetful.






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        It’s most definitely an Irish joke about an old senile Irish Catholic woman who forgets she is too old to conceive children and taking birth control goes against her religion. Despite all this she takes the pill twice because she is so forgetful.



        So it is a witty comical insult about being forgetful.






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        It’s most definitely an Irish joke about an old senile Irish Catholic woman who forgets she is too old to conceive children and taking birth control goes against her religion. Despite all this she takes the pill twice because she is so forgetful.



        So it is a witty comical insult about being forgetful.







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