Plastic and oil eating microbes apocalypse part 1 - How fast?
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Plastic is a huge problem in our lives. One of the ideas is to engineer plastic eating bacteria or fungi. Experiments already begun, and accidents already happen:
a team of international scientists illustrate how they created—by accident—a new enzyme capable of breaking down plastic bottles.
So let's assume microbe like that was engineered to just eat plastic like it eats sugars and other stuff. Then, containment broke in processing plants next to ten rivers that contribute the most to plastic problems:
- Yangtze
- Indus
- Yellow
- Hai
- Nile
- Ganges
- Pearl
- Amur
- Niger
- Mekong
How fast can we get this microbes all around the oceans, especially plastic deposits? They will be almost unchallenged on food, because hardly anything else in nature eats plastic, so all real life models look irrelevant to me. On the other hand, I'm not sure if I can just use speed of ocean currents - and if I can, simulating it is above my knowledge at the moment.
You can give this microbe any advantage needed, I want it everywhere as fast as possible to make my apocalypse sudden, and to make world unable to stop it.
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Plastic is a huge problem in our lives. One of the ideas is to engineer plastic eating bacteria or fungi. Experiments already begun, and accidents already happen:
a team of international scientists illustrate how they created—by accident—a new enzyme capable of breaking down plastic bottles.
So let's assume microbe like that was engineered to just eat plastic like it eats sugars and other stuff. Then, containment broke in processing plants next to ten rivers that contribute the most to plastic problems:
- Yangtze
- Indus
- Yellow
- Hai
- Nile
- Ganges
- Pearl
- Amur
- Niger
- Mekong
How fast can we get this microbes all around the oceans, especially plastic deposits? They will be almost unchallenged on food, because hardly anything else in nature eats plastic, so all real life models look irrelevant to me. On the other hand, I'm not sure if I can just use speed of ocean currents - and if I can, simulating it is above my knowledge at the moment.
You can give this microbe any advantage needed, I want it everywhere as fast as possible to make my apocalypse sudden, and to make world unable to stop it.
biology apocalypse ocean
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I would just keep in mind that being unchallenged for food doesn't mean being invincible, bacteriophages, other micro-organisms, even plants and fungi all have ways to kill microbes in their environment (for example all the natural antiobitics we've discovered)
– Thymine
3 hours ago
@Thymine good point, and one more reason for me to not know how fast it could happen.
– Mołot
3 hours ago
Engineered to eat plastic does not translate to imunne to osmosis, nor immune to plankton and filter feeders eating it.
– Renan
3 hours ago
@Renan I never said it does. But being a single cell makes it pretty immune to filter feeders, doesn't it?
– Mołot
2 hours ago
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Here are some plastic quantity estimates, from ES.SE.
– kingledion
48 mins ago
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Plastic is a huge problem in our lives. One of the ideas is to engineer plastic eating bacteria or fungi. Experiments already begun, and accidents already happen:
a team of international scientists illustrate how they created—by accident—a new enzyme capable of breaking down plastic bottles.
So let's assume microbe like that was engineered to just eat plastic like it eats sugars and other stuff. Then, containment broke in processing plants next to ten rivers that contribute the most to plastic problems:
- Yangtze
- Indus
- Yellow
- Hai
- Nile
- Ganges
- Pearl
- Amur
- Niger
- Mekong
How fast can we get this microbes all around the oceans, especially plastic deposits? They will be almost unchallenged on food, because hardly anything else in nature eats plastic, so all real life models look irrelevant to me. On the other hand, I'm not sure if I can just use speed of ocean currents - and if I can, simulating it is above my knowledge at the moment.
You can give this microbe any advantage needed, I want it everywhere as fast as possible to make my apocalypse sudden, and to make world unable to stop it.
biology apocalypse ocean
Plastic is a huge problem in our lives. One of the ideas is to engineer plastic eating bacteria or fungi. Experiments already begun, and accidents already happen:
a team of international scientists illustrate how they created—by accident—a new enzyme capable of breaking down plastic bottles.
So let's assume microbe like that was engineered to just eat plastic like it eats sugars and other stuff. Then, containment broke in processing plants next to ten rivers that contribute the most to plastic problems:
- Yangtze
- Indus
- Yellow
- Hai
- Nile
- Ganges
- Pearl
- Amur
- Niger
- Mekong
How fast can we get this microbes all around the oceans, especially plastic deposits? They will be almost unchallenged on food, because hardly anything else in nature eats plastic, so all real life models look irrelevant to me. On the other hand, I'm not sure if I can just use speed of ocean currents - and if I can, simulating it is above my knowledge at the moment.
You can give this microbe any advantage needed, I want it everywhere as fast as possible to make my apocalypse sudden, and to make world unable to stop it.
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biology apocalypse ocean
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I would just keep in mind that being unchallenged for food doesn't mean being invincible, bacteriophages, other micro-organisms, even plants and fungi all have ways to kill microbes in their environment (for example all the natural antiobitics we've discovered)
– Thymine
3 hours ago
@Thymine good point, and one more reason for me to not know how fast it could happen.
– Mołot
3 hours ago
Engineered to eat plastic does not translate to imunne to osmosis, nor immune to plankton and filter feeders eating it.
– Renan
3 hours ago
@Renan I never said it does. But being a single cell makes it pretty immune to filter feeders, doesn't it?
– Mołot
2 hours ago
1
Here are some plastic quantity estimates, from ES.SE.
– kingledion
48 mins ago
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I would just keep in mind that being unchallenged for food doesn't mean being invincible, bacteriophages, other micro-organisms, even plants and fungi all have ways to kill microbes in their environment (for example all the natural antiobitics we've discovered)
– Thymine
3 hours ago
@Thymine good point, and one more reason for me to not know how fast it could happen.
– Mołot
3 hours ago
Engineered to eat plastic does not translate to imunne to osmosis, nor immune to plankton and filter feeders eating it.
– Renan
3 hours ago
@Renan I never said it does. But being a single cell makes it pretty immune to filter feeders, doesn't it?
– Mołot
2 hours ago
1
Here are some plastic quantity estimates, from ES.SE.
– kingledion
48 mins ago
2
2
I would just keep in mind that being unchallenged for food doesn't mean being invincible, bacteriophages, other micro-organisms, even plants and fungi all have ways to kill microbes in their environment (for example all the natural antiobitics we've discovered)
– Thymine
3 hours ago
I would just keep in mind that being unchallenged for food doesn't mean being invincible, bacteriophages, other micro-organisms, even plants and fungi all have ways to kill microbes in their environment (for example all the natural antiobitics we've discovered)
– Thymine
3 hours ago
@Thymine good point, and one more reason for me to not know how fast it could happen.
– Mołot
3 hours ago
@Thymine good point, and one more reason for me to not know how fast it could happen.
– Mołot
3 hours ago
Engineered to eat plastic does not translate to imunne to osmosis, nor immune to plankton and filter feeders eating it.
– Renan
3 hours ago
Engineered to eat plastic does not translate to imunne to osmosis, nor immune to plankton and filter feeders eating it.
– Renan
3 hours ago
@Renan I never said it does. But being a single cell makes it pretty immune to filter feeders, doesn't it?
– Mołot
2 hours ago
@Renan I never said it does. But being a single cell makes it pretty immune to filter feeders, doesn't it?
– Mołot
2 hours ago
1
1
Here are some plastic quantity estimates, from ES.SE.
– kingledion
48 mins ago
Here are some plastic quantity estimates, from ES.SE.
– kingledion
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The debris generated by the tsunami hitting Japan in 2011 reached US West coast, thus crossed the Pacific Ocean, after few months.
This is your upper limit for the needed time. Add to this that, as opposed to solid debris, bacterial spores can be transported by wind or animals, and your diffusion time significantly shortens.
I.e. take an albatross resting in an infected plastic patch in the middle of the ocean, it will carry the spores hundreds of kilometers away in a matter of few days. And the more they are spread, the further they can spread.
Oh. Birds. Good point!
– Mołot
3 hours ago
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Ever see the The Satan Bug as the plot is based on a deadly plague stolen from a secret lab. Once quote is "Perhaps the Great Albatross swinging its way around the bottom of the world. Perhaps an Eskimo deep in the Arctic. But the seas travel the world over, and so do the winds. One day, one day soon, they too would die."
– StephenG
3 hours ago
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The debris generated by the tsunami hitting Japan in 2011 reached US West coast, thus crossed the Pacific Ocean, after few months.
This is your upper limit for the needed time. Add to this that, as opposed to solid debris, bacterial spores can be transported by wind or animals, and your diffusion time significantly shortens.
I.e. take an albatross resting in an infected plastic patch in the middle of the ocean, it will carry the spores hundreds of kilometers away in a matter of few days. And the more they are spread, the further they can spread.
Oh. Birds. Good point!
– Mołot
3 hours ago
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Ever see the The Satan Bug as the plot is based on a deadly plague stolen from a secret lab. Once quote is "Perhaps the Great Albatross swinging its way around the bottom of the world. Perhaps an Eskimo deep in the Arctic. But the seas travel the world over, and so do the winds. One day, one day soon, they too would die."
– StephenG
3 hours ago
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The debris generated by the tsunami hitting Japan in 2011 reached US West coast, thus crossed the Pacific Ocean, after few months.
This is your upper limit for the needed time. Add to this that, as opposed to solid debris, bacterial spores can be transported by wind or animals, and your diffusion time significantly shortens.
I.e. take an albatross resting in an infected plastic patch in the middle of the ocean, it will carry the spores hundreds of kilometers away in a matter of few days. And the more they are spread, the further they can spread.
Oh. Birds. Good point!
– Mołot
3 hours ago
2
Ever see the The Satan Bug as the plot is based on a deadly plague stolen from a secret lab. Once quote is "Perhaps the Great Albatross swinging its way around the bottom of the world. Perhaps an Eskimo deep in the Arctic. But the seas travel the world over, and so do the winds. One day, one day soon, they too would die."
– StephenG
3 hours ago
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The debris generated by the tsunami hitting Japan in 2011 reached US West coast, thus crossed the Pacific Ocean, after few months.
This is your upper limit for the needed time. Add to this that, as opposed to solid debris, bacterial spores can be transported by wind or animals, and your diffusion time significantly shortens.
I.e. take an albatross resting in an infected plastic patch in the middle of the ocean, it will carry the spores hundreds of kilometers away in a matter of few days. And the more they are spread, the further they can spread.
The debris generated by the tsunami hitting Japan in 2011 reached US West coast, thus crossed the Pacific Ocean, after few months.
This is your upper limit for the needed time. Add to this that, as opposed to solid debris, bacterial spores can be transported by wind or animals, and your diffusion time significantly shortens.
I.e. take an albatross resting in an infected plastic patch in the middle of the ocean, it will carry the spores hundreds of kilometers away in a matter of few days. And the more they are spread, the further they can spread.
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Oh. Birds. Good point!
– Mołot
3 hours ago
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Ever see the The Satan Bug as the plot is based on a deadly plague stolen from a secret lab. Once quote is "Perhaps the Great Albatross swinging its way around the bottom of the world. Perhaps an Eskimo deep in the Arctic. But the seas travel the world over, and so do the winds. One day, one day soon, they too would die."
– StephenG
3 hours ago
add a comment |
Oh. Birds. Good point!
– Mołot
3 hours ago
2
Ever see the The Satan Bug as the plot is based on a deadly plague stolen from a secret lab. Once quote is "Perhaps the Great Albatross swinging its way around the bottom of the world. Perhaps an Eskimo deep in the Arctic. But the seas travel the world over, and so do the winds. One day, one day soon, they too would die."
– StephenG
3 hours ago
Oh. Birds. Good point!
– Mołot
3 hours ago
Oh. Birds. Good point!
– Mołot
3 hours ago
2
2
Ever see the The Satan Bug as the plot is based on a deadly plague stolen from a secret lab. Once quote is "Perhaps the Great Albatross swinging its way around the bottom of the world. Perhaps an Eskimo deep in the Arctic. But the seas travel the world over, and so do the winds. One day, one day soon, they too would die."
– StephenG
3 hours ago
Ever see the The Satan Bug as the plot is based on a deadly plague stolen from a secret lab. Once quote is "Perhaps the Great Albatross swinging its way around the bottom of the world. Perhaps an Eskimo deep in the Arctic. But the seas travel the world over, and so do the winds. One day, one day soon, they too would die."
– StephenG
3 hours ago
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I would just keep in mind that being unchallenged for food doesn't mean being invincible, bacteriophages, other micro-organisms, even plants and fungi all have ways to kill microbes in their environment (for example all the natural antiobitics we've discovered)
– Thymine
3 hours ago
@Thymine good point, and one more reason for me to not know how fast it could happen.
– Mołot
3 hours ago
Engineered to eat plastic does not translate to imunne to osmosis, nor immune to plankton and filter feeders eating it.
– Renan
3 hours ago
@Renan I never said it does. But being a single cell makes it pretty immune to filter feeders, doesn't it?
– Mołot
2 hours ago
1
Here are some plastic quantity estimates, from ES.SE.
– kingledion
48 mins ago