Should I install a .deb file of a package version that's not in apt source?
If a package's version that's not in apt source, i.e. the version not does not appear when I run apt-cache policy package
, then is it wise to install a .deb file of this version? I guess there are risks here. Do such risks often happen? Are the risk's consequences often big or small? Are the risks reversible by uninstalling the package in order to go back to normal?
A specific example, I want to install the bluez_5.50-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb file instead of the bluez_5.37-0ubuntu5.1_amd64.deb package maintainer's version. Does anyone try this? Is it OK?
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If a package's version that's not in apt source, i.e. the version not does not appear when I run apt-cache policy package
, then is it wise to install a .deb file of this version? I guess there are risks here. Do such risks often happen? Are the risk's consequences often big or small? Are the risks reversible by uninstalling the package in order to go back to normal?
A specific example, I want to install the bluez_5.50-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb file instead of the bluez_5.37-0ubuntu5.1_amd64.deb package maintainer's version. Does anyone try this? Is it OK?
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5.37 is Xenial (16.04). 5.50 is Cosmic (18.10). Installing a wrong-release deb package is generally a Bad Idea, and does risk breaking your system quite horribly. Consider trying an 18.10 LiveUSB on your hardware to test if Bluetooth works better. If so, then commit to a complete system upgrade.
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8 hours ago
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If a package's version that's not in apt source, i.e. the version not does not appear when I run apt-cache policy package
, then is it wise to install a .deb file of this version? I guess there are risks here. Do such risks often happen? Are the risk's consequences often big or small? Are the risks reversible by uninstalling the package in order to go back to normal?
A specific example, I want to install the bluez_5.50-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb file instead of the bluez_5.37-0ubuntu5.1_amd64.deb package maintainer's version. Does anyone try this? Is it OK?
16.04 package-management software-installation deb
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If a package's version that's not in apt source, i.e. the version not does not appear when I run apt-cache policy package
, then is it wise to install a .deb file of this version? I guess there are risks here. Do such risks often happen? Are the risk's consequences often big or small? Are the risks reversible by uninstalling the package in order to go back to normal?
A specific example, I want to install the bluez_5.50-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb file instead of the bluez_5.37-0ubuntu5.1_amd64.deb package maintainer's version. Does anyone try this? Is it OK?
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5.37 is Xenial (16.04). 5.50 is Cosmic (18.10). Installing a wrong-release deb package is generally a Bad Idea, and does risk breaking your system quite horribly. Consider trying an 18.10 LiveUSB on your hardware to test if Bluetooth works better. If so, then commit to a complete system upgrade.
– user535733
8 hours ago
add a comment |
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5.37 is Xenial (16.04). 5.50 is Cosmic (18.10). Installing a wrong-release deb package is generally a Bad Idea, and does risk breaking your system quite horribly. Consider trying an 18.10 LiveUSB on your hardware to test if Bluetooth works better. If so, then commit to a complete system upgrade.
– user535733
8 hours ago
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5.37 is Xenial (16.04). 5.50 is Cosmic (18.10). Installing a wrong-release deb package is generally a Bad Idea, and does risk breaking your system quite horribly. Consider trying an 18.10 LiveUSB on your hardware to test if Bluetooth works better. If so, then commit to a complete system upgrade.
– user535733
8 hours ago
5.37 is Xenial (16.04). 5.50 is Cosmic (18.10). Installing a wrong-release deb package is generally a Bad Idea, and does risk breaking your system quite horribly. Consider trying an 18.10 LiveUSB on your hardware to test if Bluetooth works better. If so, then commit to a complete system upgrade.
– user535733
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A .deb file from an external software source that is manually installed won't be automatically updated like it would be if it was installed from the default Ubuntu repositories or from a PPA.
When a .deb file is installed its missing dependencies are also installed along with it. There may be package management issues caused by conflicting dependencies of a manually installed .deb package with other packages that are installed from the default Ubuntu repositories.
Is there any reason to trust the source of the .deb file that you installed manually as much as you trust the packages from the default Ubuntu repositories? This factor by itself would be sufficient reason for some people to install the .deb file in a virtual machine if that's possible to do in order to minimize the possible adverse and/or irreversible consequences of installing an untrusted package.
There may be safer alternatives to installing a relatively untrusted .deb file.
Unlike apt packages, snap packages are usually updated to the latest version. A snap package is a good alternative to a relatively untrusted manually installed .deb file if it is available in the default Ubuntu repositories.
Another alternative to installing a relatively untrusted .deb file with root permissions is to track down the source code of the package and compile it as a normal user in your own home directory. This is a complicated option, the advantage of which is when it's done properly it's safer than installing a relatively untrusted package with root permissions.
The results of
rmadison bluez
show the following bluez versions. The bluez package contains tools and system daemons for using bluetooth devices, but it does not contain the required drivers for all bluetooth devices. When bluetooth is malfunctioning, it's usually because of a driver issue, not because of bluez.
bluez | 4.98-2ubuntu7 | precise | source, amd64, armel, armhf, i386, powerpc
bluez | 4.98-2ubuntu7.2 | precise-updates | source, amd64, armel, armhf, i386, powerpc
bluez | 4.101-0ubuntu13 | trusty | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el
bluez | 4.101-0ubuntu13.3 | trusty-security | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el
bluez | 4.101-0ubuntu13.3 | trusty-updates | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el
bluez | 5.37-0ubuntu5 | xenial | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.37-0ubuntu5.1 | xenial-security | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.37-0ubuntu5.1 | xenial-updates | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.48-0ubuntu3 | bionic | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.48-0ubuntu3.1 | bionic-updates | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.50-0ubuntu1 | cosmic | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.50-0ubuntu1 | disco | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, s390x
If the conflict happens, does removing deb package solve the problem?
– user300871
8 hours ago
Removing a .deb package does not remove any dependencies that were installed along with it, but if there is a package management issue with any dependency packages they can be manually removed one at a time with the help of theaptitude
program or sometimes even batch uninstalled the easy way by runningsudo apt autoremove
– karel
8 hours ago
whysudo apt autoremove
works sometimes
– user300871
7 hours ago
If a dependency package that is installed by a .deb file is no longer required it is called an orphaned package andsudo apt autoremove
is able to automatically remove it, but sometimes the same dependency package is also required by other installed packages in which case it requires aptitude to suggest smart ways of removing the packages and replacing non-Ubuntu repository packages with Ubuntu repository packages.
– karel
7 hours ago
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A .deb file from an external software source that is manually installed won't be automatically updated like it would be if it was installed from the default Ubuntu repositories or from a PPA.
When a .deb file is installed its missing dependencies are also installed along with it. There may be package management issues caused by conflicting dependencies of a manually installed .deb package with other packages that are installed from the default Ubuntu repositories.
Is there any reason to trust the source of the .deb file that you installed manually as much as you trust the packages from the default Ubuntu repositories? This factor by itself would be sufficient reason for some people to install the .deb file in a virtual machine if that's possible to do in order to minimize the possible adverse and/or irreversible consequences of installing an untrusted package.
There may be safer alternatives to installing a relatively untrusted .deb file.
Unlike apt packages, snap packages are usually updated to the latest version. A snap package is a good alternative to a relatively untrusted manually installed .deb file if it is available in the default Ubuntu repositories.
Another alternative to installing a relatively untrusted .deb file with root permissions is to track down the source code of the package and compile it as a normal user in your own home directory. This is a complicated option, the advantage of which is when it's done properly it's safer than installing a relatively untrusted package with root permissions.
The results of
rmadison bluez
show the following bluez versions. The bluez package contains tools and system daemons for using bluetooth devices, but it does not contain the required drivers for all bluetooth devices. When bluetooth is malfunctioning, it's usually because of a driver issue, not because of bluez.
bluez | 4.98-2ubuntu7 | precise | source, amd64, armel, armhf, i386, powerpc
bluez | 4.98-2ubuntu7.2 | precise-updates | source, amd64, armel, armhf, i386, powerpc
bluez | 4.101-0ubuntu13 | trusty | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el
bluez | 4.101-0ubuntu13.3 | trusty-security | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el
bluez | 4.101-0ubuntu13.3 | trusty-updates | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el
bluez | 5.37-0ubuntu5 | xenial | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.37-0ubuntu5.1 | xenial-security | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.37-0ubuntu5.1 | xenial-updates | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.48-0ubuntu3 | bionic | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.48-0ubuntu3.1 | bionic-updates | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.50-0ubuntu1 | cosmic | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.50-0ubuntu1 | disco | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, s390x
If the conflict happens, does removing deb package solve the problem?
– user300871
8 hours ago
Removing a .deb package does not remove any dependencies that were installed along with it, but if there is a package management issue with any dependency packages they can be manually removed one at a time with the help of theaptitude
program or sometimes even batch uninstalled the easy way by runningsudo apt autoremove
– karel
8 hours ago
whysudo apt autoremove
works sometimes
– user300871
7 hours ago
If a dependency package that is installed by a .deb file is no longer required it is called an orphaned package andsudo apt autoremove
is able to automatically remove it, but sometimes the same dependency package is also required by other installed packages in which case it requires aptitude to suggest smart ways of removing the packages and replacing non-Ubuntu repository packages with Ubuntu repository packages.
– karel
7 hours ago
add a comment |
A .deb file from an external software source that is manually installed won't be automatically updated like it would be if it was installed from the default Ubuntu repositories or from a PPA.
When a .deb file is installed its missing dependencies are also installed along with it. There may be package management issues caused by conflicting dependencies of a manually installed .deb package with other packages that are installed from the default Ubuntu repositories.
Is there any reason to trust the source of the .deb file that you installed manually as much as you trust the packages from the default Ubuntu repositories? This factor by itself would be sufficient reason for some people to install the .deb file in a virtual machine if that's possible to do in order to minimize the possible adverse and/or irreversible consequences of installing an untrusted package.
There may be safer alternatives to installing a relatively untrusted .deb file.
Unlike apt packages, snap packages are usually updated to the latest version. A snap package is a good alternative to a relatively untrusted manually installed .deb file if it is available in the default Ubuntu repositories.
Another alternative to installing a relatively untrusted .deb file with root permissions is to track down the source code of the package and compile it as a normal user in your own home directory. This is a complicated option, the advantage of which is when it's done properly it's safer than installing a relatively untrusted package with root permissions.
The results of
rmadison bluez
show the following bluez versions. The bluez package contains tools and system daemons for using bluetooth devices, but it does not contain the required drivers for all bluetooth devices. When bluetooth is malfunctioning, it's usually because of a driver issue, not because of bluez.
bluez | 4.98-2ubuntu7 | precise | source, amd64, armel, armhf, i386, powerpc
bluez | 4.98-2ubuntu7.2 | precise-updates | source, amd64, armel, armhf, i386, powerpc
bluez | 4.101-0ubuntu13 | trusty | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el
bluez | 4.101-0ubuntu13.3 | trusty-security | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el
bluez | 4.101-0ubuntu13.3 | trusty-updates | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el
bluez | 5.37-0ubuntu5 | xenial | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.37-0ubuntu5.1 | xenial-security | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.37-0ubuntu5.1 | xenial-updates | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.48-0ubuntu3 | bionic | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.48-0ubuntu3.1 | bionic-updates | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.50-0ubuntu1 | cosmic | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.50-0ubuntu1 | disco | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, s390x
If the conflict happens, does removing deb package solve the problem?
– user300871
8 hours ago
Removing a .deb package does not remove any dependencies that were installed along with it, but if there is a package management issue with any dependency packages they can be manually removed one at a time with the help of theaptitude
program or sometimes even batch uninstalled the easy way by runningsudo apt autoremove
– karel
8 hours ago
whysudo apt autoremove
works sometimes
– user300871
7 hours ago
If a dependency package that is installed by a .deb file is no longer required it is called an orphaned package andsudo apt autoremove
is able to automatically remove it, but sometimes the same dependency package is also required by other installed packages in which case it requires aptitude to suggest smart ways of removing the packages and replacing non-Ubuntu repository packages with Ubuntu repository packages.
– karel
7 hours ago
add a comment |
A .deb file from an external software source that is manually installed won't be automatically updated like it would be if it was installed from the default Ubuntu repositories or from a PPA.
When a .deb file is installed its missing dependencies are also installed along with it. There may be package management issues caused by conflicting dependencies of a manually installed .deb package with other packages that are installed from the default Ubuntu repositories.
Is there any reason to trust the source of the .deb file that you installed manually as much as you trust the packages from the default Ubuntu repositories? This factor by itself would be sufficient reason for some people to install the .deb file in a virtual machine if that's possible to do in order to minimize the possible adverse and/or irreversible consequences of installing an untrusted package.
There may be safer alternatives to installing a relatively untrusted .deb file.
Unlike apt packages, snap packages are usually updated to the latest version. A snap package is a good alternative to a relatively untrusted manually installed .deb file if it is available in the default Ubuntu repositories.
Another alternative to installing a relatively untrusted .deb file with root permissions is to track down the source code of the package and compile it as a normal user in your own home directory. This is a complicated option, the advantage of which is when it's done properly it's safer than installing a relatively untrusted package with root permissions.
The results of
rmadison bluez
show the following bluez versions. The bluez package contains tools and system daemons for using bluetooth devices, but it does not contain the required drivers for all bluetooth devices. When bluetooth is malfunctioning, it's usually because of a driver issue, not because of bluez.
bluez | 4.98-2ubuntu7 | precise | source, amd64, armel, armhf, i386, powerpc
bluez | 4.98-2ubuntu7.2 | precise-updates | source, amd64, armel, armhf, i386, powerpc
bluez | 4.101-0ubuntu13 | trusty | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el
bluez | 4.101-0ubuntu13.3 | trusty-security | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el
bluez | 4.101-0ubuntu13.3 | trusty-updates | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el
bluez | 5.37-0ubuntu5 | xenial | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.37-0ubuntu5.1 | xenial-security | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.37-0ubuntu5.1 | xenial-updates | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.48-0ubuntu3 | bionic | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.48-0ubuntu3.1 | bionic-updates | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.50-0ubuntu1 | cosmic | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.50-0ubuntu1 | disco | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, s390x
A .deb file from an external software source that is manually installed won't be automatically updated like it would be if it was installed from the default Ubuntu repositories or from a PPA.
When a .deb file is installed its missing dependencies are also installed along with it. There may be package management issues caused by conflicting dependencies of a manually installed .deb package with other packages that are installed from the default Ubuntu repositories.
Is there any reason to trust the source of the .deb file that you installed manually as much as you trust the packages from the default Ubuntu repositories? This factor by itself would be sufficient reason for some people to install the .deb file in a virtual machine if that's possible to do in order to minimize the possible adverse and/or irreversible consequences of installing an untrusted package.
There may be safer alternatives to installing a relatively untrusted .deb file.
Unlike apt packages, snap packages are usually updated to the latest version. A snap package is a good alternative to a relatively untrusted manually installed .deb file if it is available in the default Ubuntu repositories.
Another alternative to installing a relatively untrusted .deb file with root permissions is to track down the source code of the package and compile it as a normal user in your own home directory. This is a complicated option, the advantage of which is when it's done properly it's safer than installing a relatively untrusted package with root permissions.
The results of
rmadison bluez
show the following bluez versions. The bluez package contains tools and system daemons for using bluetooth devices, but it does not contain the required drivers for all bluetooth devices. When bluetooth is malfunctioning, it's usually because of a driver issue, not because of bluez.
bluez | 4.98-2ubuntu7 | precise | source, amd64, armel, armhf, i386, powerpc
bluez | 4.98-2ubuntu7.2 | precise-updates | source, amd64, armel, armhf, i386, powerpc
bluez | 4.101-0ubuntu13 | trusty | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el
bluez | 4.101-0ubuntu13.3 | trusty-security | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el
bluez | 4.101-0ubuntu13.3 | trusty-updates | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el
bluez | 5.37-0ubuntu5 | xenial | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.37-0ubuntu5.1 | xenial-security | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.37-0ubuntu5.1 | xenial-updates | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.48-0ubuntu3 | bionic | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.48-0ubuntu3.1 | bionic-updates | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.50-0ubuntu1 | cosmic | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, s390x
bluez | 5.50-0ubuntu1 | disco | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, ppc64el, s390x
edited 6 hours ago
answered 9 hours ago
karel
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If the conflict happens, does removing deb package solve the problem?
– user300871
8 hours ago
Removing a .deb package does not remove any dependencies that were installed along with it, but if there is a package management issue with any dependency packages they can be manually removed one at a time with the help of theaptitude
program or sometimes even batch uninstalled the easy way by runningsudo apt autoremove
– karel
8 hours ago
whysudo apt autoremove
works sometimes
– user300871
7 hours ago
If a dependency package that is installed by a .deb file is no longer required it is called an orphaned package andsudo apt autoremove
is able to automatically remove it, but sometimes the same dependency package is also required by other installed packages in which case it requires aptitude to suggest smart ways of removing the packages and replacing non-Ubuntu repository packages with Ubuntu repository packages.
– karel
7 hours ago
add a comment |
If the conflict happens, does removing deb package solve the problem?
– user300871
8 hours ago
Removing a .deb package does not remove any dependencies that were installed along with it, but if there is a package management issue with any dependency packages they can be manually removed one at a time with the help of theaptitude
program or sometimes even batch uninstalled the easy way by runningsudo apt autoremove
– karel
8 hours ago
whysudo apt autoremove
works sometimes
– user300871
7 hours ago
If a dependency package that is installed by a .deb file is no longer required it is called an orphaned package andsudo apt autoremove
is able to automatically remove it, but sometimes the same dependency package is also required by other installed packages in which case it requires aptitude to suggest smart ways of removing the packages and replacing non-Ubuntu repository packages with Ubuntu repository packages.
– karel
7 hours ago
If the conflict happens, does removing deb package solve the problem?
– user300871
8 hours ago
If the conflict happens, does removing deb package solve the problem?
– user300871
8 hours ago
Removing a .deb package does not remove any dependencies that were installed along with it, but if there is a package management issue with any dependency packages they can be manually removed one at a time with the help of the
aptitude
program or sometimes even batch uninstalled the easy way by running sudo apt autoremove
– karel
8 hours ago
Removing a .deb package does not remove any dependencies that were installed along with it, but if there is a package management issue with any dependency packages they can be manually removed one at a time with the help of the
aptitude
program or sometimes even batch uninstalled the easy way by running sudo apt autoremove
– karel
8 hours ago
why
sudo apt autoremove
works sometimes– user300871
7 hours ago
why
sudo apt autoremove
works sometimes– user300871
7 hours ago
If a dependency package that is installed by a .deb file is no longer required it is called an orphaned package and
sudo apt autoremove
is able to automatically remove it, but sometimes the same dependency package is also required by other installed packages in which case it requires aptitude to suggest smart ways of removing the packages and replacing non-Ubuntu repository packages with Ubuntu repository packages.– karel
7 hours ago
If a dependency package that is installed by a .deb file is no longer required it is called an orphaned package and
sudo apt autoremove
is able to automatically remove it, but sometimes the same dependency package is also required by other installed packages in which case it requires aptitude to suggest smart ways of removing the packages and replacing non-Ubuntu repository packages with Ubuntu repository packages.– karel
7 hours ago
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5.37 is Xenial (16.04). 5.50 is Cosmic (18.10). Installing a wrong-release deb package is generally a Bad Idea, and does risk breaking your system quite horribly. Consider trying an 18.10 LiveUSB on your hardware to test if Bluetooth works better. If so, then commit to a complete system upgrade.
– user535733
8 hours ago