What do you call someone who cares more about what someone else does than that person themselves?











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I’m writing a story, but I need a word to describe somone in it who cares more about what their kid does than the child themself. Sorry if I messed up any grammar within that question.



Just to clarify, the 1st person cares more about the other’s actions than the other’s well being.



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  • Your character probably lives vicariously through the child.
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    and a sample sentence too if you please
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    I can't really find the right reference, so perhaps the idiomatic meaning I have is not widespread, but vested in and particularly inordinately vested in might be great descriptions that do not spread into 'forcing' or 'manipulating' or 'using' the other. The 'vested in' would be having and interest in the outcome (as I understand an idiomatic use others might not). "inordinately", unusually so to excess does not directly say "more" but implies that. It's not perfect but just sharing it.
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    @Tom22 overly invested in the child's image
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I’m writing a story, but I need a word to describe somone in it who cares more about what their kid does than the child themself. Sorry if I messed up any grammar within that question.



Just to clarify, the 1st person cares more about the other’s actions than the other’s well being.



Once again I apologize for any incorrect grammar.










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  • Your character probably lives vicariously through the child.
    – Rob_Ster
    Dec 12 '17 at 15:33






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    How is this not a request for everyone else to search their dictionaries or thesauruses for you, please?
    – Robbie Goodwin
    Dec 14 '17 at 20:34






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    and a sample sentence too if you please
    – lbf
    Apr 14 at 15:43






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    I can't really find the right reference, so perhaps the idiomatic meaning I have is not widespread, but vested in and particularly inordinately vested in might be great descriptions that do not spread into 'forcing' or 'manipulating' or 'using' the other. The 'vested in' would be having and interest in the outcome (as I understand an idiomatic use others might not). "inordinately", unusually so to excess does not directly say "more" but implies that. It's not perfect but just sharing it.
    – Tom22
    Jun 13 at 23:34






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    @Tom22 overly invested in the child's image
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    Nov 11 at 0:49













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I’m writing a story, but I need a word to describe somone in it who cares more about what their kid does than the child themself. Sorry if I messed up any grammar within that question.



Just to clarify, the 1st person cares more about the other’s actions than the other’s well being.



Once again I apologize for any incorrect grammar.










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I’m writing a story, but I need a word to describe somone in it who cares more about what their kid does than the child themself. Sorry if I messed up any grammar within that question.



Just to clarify, the 1st person cares more about the other’s actions than the other’s well being.



Once again I apologize for any incorrect grammar.







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  • Your character probably lives vicariously through the child.
    – Rob_Ster
    Dec 12 '17 at 15:33






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    How is this not a request for everyone else to search their dictionaries or thesauruses for you, please?
    – Robbie Goodwin
    Dec 14 '17 at 20:34






  • 1




    and a sample sentence too if you please
    – lbf
    Apr 14 at 15:43






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    I can't really find the right reference, so perhaps the idiomatic meaning I have is not widespread, but vested in and particularly inordinately vested in might be great descriptions that do not spread into 'forcing' or 'manipulating' or 'using' the other. The 'vested in' would be having and interest in the outcome (as I understand an idiomatic use others might not). "inordinately", unusually so to excess does not directly say "more" but implies that. It's not perfect but just sharing it.
    – Tom22
    Jun 13 at 23:34






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    @Tom22 overly invested in the child's image
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    Nov 11 at 0:49


















  • Your character probably lives vicariously through the child.
    – Rob_Ster
    Dec 12 '17 at 15:33






  • 1




    How is this not a request for everyone else to search their dictionaries or thesauruses for you, please?
    – Robbie Goodwin
    Dec 14 '17 at 20:34






  • 1




    and a sample sentence too if you please
    – lbf
    Apr 14 at 15:43






  • 1




    I can't really find the right reference, so perhaps the idiomatic meaning I have is not widespread, but vested in and particularly inordinately vested in might be great descriptions that do not spread into 'forcing' or 'manipulating' or 'using' the other. The 'vested in' would be having and interest in the outcome (as I understand an idiomatic use others might not). "inordinately", unusually so to excess does not directly say "more" but implies that. It's not perfect but just sharing it.
    – Tom22
    Jun 13 at 23:34






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    @Tom22 overly invested in the child's image
    – Lambie
    Nov 11 at 0:49
















Your character probably lives vicariously through the child.
– Rob_Ster
Dec 12 '17 at 15:33




Your character probably lives vicariously through the child.
– Rob_Ster
Dec 12 '17 at 15:33




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1




How is this not a request for everyone else to search their dictionaries or thesauruses for you, please?
– Robbie Goodwin
Dec 14 '17 at 20:34




How is this not a request for everyone else to search their dictionaries or thesauruses for you, please?
– Robbie Goodwin
Dec 14 '17 at 20:34




1




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and a sample sentence too if you please
– lbf
Apr 14 at 15:43




and a sample sentence too if you please
– lbf
Apr 14 at 15:43




1




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I can't really find the right reference, so perhaps the idiomatic meaning I have is not widespread, but vested in and particularly inordinately vested in might be great descriptions that do not spread into 'forcing' or 'manipulating' or 'using' the other. The 'vested in' would be having and interest in the outcome (as I understand an idiomatic use others might not). "inordinately", unusually so to excess does not directly say "more" but implies that. It's not perfect but just sharing it.
– Tom22
Jun 13 at 23:34




I can't really find the right reference, so perhaps the idiomatic meaning I have is not widespread, but vested in and particularly inordinately vested in might be great descriptions that do not spread into 'forcing' or 'manipulating' or 'using' the other. The 'vested in' would be having and interest in the outcome (as I understand an idiomatic use others might not). "inordinately", unusually so to excess does not directly say "more" but implies that. It's not perfect but just sharing it.
– Tom22
Jun 13 at 23:34




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@Tom22 overly invested in the child's image
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@Tom22 overly invested in the child's image
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Robot. 'He treated his child unfeelingly, as if it were a robot, there merely to do his bidding, only criticising when things were wrong, caring not at all for the child's own feelings or needs'



Or Slave. A person with no rights who is owned by another.



'He treated the child as his personal slave...'



Automaton
Doll
Puppet
Made of wood
Heart of stone
Painted doll
Jemima (a kind of doll, the name also references slavery which might be appropriate).
Jemima doll - these originally are black dolls based on 'Aunt Jemima' a slave woman archetype



Pinocchio
The Tin Man



Pinocchio and The Tin Man are stories in which the feeling is missing - but later acquired, that you could possibly reference or plunder from.



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    Externalizer



    a person who draws a locus of control from the external world, depending on others as a source of values, ideas, and security.




    An example of externalization:




    "The patient is extremely argumentative; instead of recognizing this characteristic in herself, however, she complains about the difficult personalities of others and views herself as blameless"







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      Just to clarify, the 1st person cares more about the other’s actions than the other’s well being.




      Where I'm from (southern American English), we often call such a person a user: someone who maintains a relationship solely for the purpose of exploitation or parasitism.



      But it's common enough usage to be included in Urban Dictionary, where it is adequately defined.



      Two synonyms of user: gold-digger, pimp



      However, user may be applied to relationships such as friendships, etc., that do not involve romantic or physical activity. They're habitually parasitic and exploitative, they'll use anyone for any purpose, if they can get away with it.




      • They're users; they enjoy bragging about their son's achievements, yet constantly criticize and never give him any praise or reward for his efforts.

      • She's a user; she treats her daughter like a servant, while refusing her even a small allowance or some time to herself.

      • He uses his son's celebrity to make himself feel famous; he likes the attention.






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        I can think of wicked stepmother and pushy parent. This last is less an archetype than it is a literal description of something commonly encountered. It isn't a reference to any one character, it is just a very common phrase. You didn't specify parents...






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          This is a loaded word in many ways, so I hesitate to use this, but have you thought about narcissist?



          A person who has an excessive interest in or admiration of themselves.


          In this case, they care only how the child's actions reflect upon themselves, and not about the actual child. A narcissist wants to be seen as raising a good child, but doesn't actually care whether or not they do.






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            Such a person who is worried over their child's actions (apparently the ones they disapprove of) even at the cost of the child's well-being is usually called a tyrant (sometimes suffixed with of a father/mother).



            ODO:




            tyrant
            NOUN



            1.1 A person exercising power or control in a cruel, unreasonable, or arbitrary way.



            ‘There's this tyrant of a father - whom we've changed to a tyrant of a
            mother - who's saying marry this guy or die.’



            ‘Svensson takes on the persona of Strindberg and talks about his life
            from a childhood intimidated by a tyrant of a father to the time of
            his relationships with his three wives.’



            ‘After all, she and her husband were not tyrants.’







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              Robot. 'He treated his child unfeelingly, as if it were a robot, there merely to do his bidding, only criticising when things were wrong, caring not at all for the child's own feelings or needs'



              Or Slave. A person with no rights who is owned by another.



              'He treated the child as his personal slave...'



              Automaton
              Doll
              Puppet
              Made of wood
              Heart of stone
              Painted doll
              Jemima (a kind of doll, the name also references slavery which might be appropriate).
              Jemima doll - these originally are black dolls based on 'Aunt Jemima' a slave woman archetype



              Pinocchio
              The Tin Man



              Pinocchio and The Tin Man are stories in which the feeling is missing - but later acquired, that you could possibly reference or plunder from.



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                Robot. 'He treated his child unfeelingly, as if it were a robot, there merely to do his bidding, only criticising when things were wrong, caring not at all for the child's own feelings or needs'



                Or Slave. A person with no rights who is owned by another.



                'He treated the child as his personal slave...'



                Automaton
                Doll
                Puppet
                Made of wood
                Heart of stone
                Painted doll
                Jemima (a kind of doll, the name also references slavery which might be appropriate).
                Jemima doll - these originally are black dolls based on 'Aunt Jemima' a slave woman archetype



                Pinocchio
                The Tin Man



                Pinocchio and The Tin Man are stories in which the feeling is missing - but later acquired, that you could possibly reference or plunder from.



                😊






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                  Robot. 'He treated his child unfeelingly, as if it were a robot, there merely to do his bidding, only criticising when things were wrong, caring not at all for the child's own feelings or needs'



                  Or Slave. A person with no rights who is owned by another.



                  'He treated the child as his personal slave...'



                  Automaton
                  Doll
                  Puppet
                  Made of wood
                  Heart of stone
                  Painted doll
                  Jemima (a kind of doll, the name also references slavery which might be appropriate).
                  Jemima doll - these originally are black dolls based on 'Aunt Jemima' a slave woman archetype



                  Pinocchio
                  The Tin Man



                  Pinocchio and The Tin Man are stories in which the feeling is missing - but later acquired, that you could possibly reference or plunder from.



                  😊






                  share|improve this answer














                  Robot. 'He treated his child unfeelingly, as if it were a robot, there merely to do his bidding, only criticising when things were wrong, caring not at all for the child's own feelings or needs'



                  Or Slave. A person with no rights who is owned by another.



                  'He treated the child as his personal slave...'



                  Automaton
                  Doll
                  Puppet
                  Made of wood
                  Heart of stone
                  Painted doll
                  Jemima (a kind of doll, the name also references slavery which might be appropriate).
                  Jemima doll - these originally are black dolls based on 'Aunt Jemima' a slave woman archetype



                  Pinocchio
                  The Tin Man



                  Pinocchio and The Tin Man are stories in which the feeling is missing - but later acquired, that you could possibly reference or plunder from.



                  😊







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                      First that came to mind:




                      Externalizer



                      a person who draws a locus of control from the external world, depending on others as a source of values, ideas, and security.




                      An example of externalization:




                      "The patient is extremely argumentative; instead of recognizing this characteristic in herself, however, she complains about the difficult personalities of others and views herself as blameless"







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                        First that came to mind:




                        Externalizer



                        a person who draws a locus of control from the external world, depending on others as a source of values, ideas, and security.




                        An example of externalization:




                        "The patient is extremely argumentative; instead of recognizing this characteristic in herself, however, she complains about the difficult personalities of others and views herself as blameless"







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                          First that came to mind:




                          Externalizer



                          a person who draws a locus of control from the external world, depending on others as a source of values, ideas, and security.




                          An example of externalization:




                          "The patient is extremely argumentative; instead of recognizing this characteristic in herself, however, she complains about the difficult personalities of others and views herself as blameless"







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                          First that came to mind:




                          Externalizer



                          a person who draws a locus of control from the external world, depending on others as a source of values, ideas, and security.




                          An example of externalization:




                          "The patient is extremely argumentative; instead of recognizing this characteristic in herself, however, she complains about the difficult personalities of others and views herself as blameless"








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                              Just to clarify, the 1st person cares more about the other’s actions than the other’s well being.




                              Where I'm from (southern American English), we often call such a person a user: someone who maintains a relationship solely for the purpose of exploitation or parasitism.



                              But it's common enough usage to be included in Urban Dictionary, where it is adequately defined.



                              Two synonyms of user: gold-digger, pimp



                              However, user may be applied to relationships such as friendships, etc., that do not involve romantic or physical activity. They're habitually parasitic and exploitative, they'll use anyone for any purpose, if they can get away with it.




                              • They're users; they enjoy bragging about their son's achievements, yet constantly criticize and never give him any praise or reward for his efforts.

                              • She's a user; she treats her daughter like a servant, while refusing her even a small allowance or some time to herself.

                              • He uses his son's celebrity to make himself feel famous; he likes the attention.






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                                Just to clarify, the 1st person cares more about the other’s actions than the other’s well being.




                                Where I'm from (southern American English), we often call such a person a user: someone who maintains a relationship solely for the purpose of exploitation or parasitism.



                                But it's common enough usage to be included in Urban Dictionary, where it is adequately defined.



                                Two synonyms of user: gold-digger, pimp



                                However, user may be applied to relationships such as friendships, etc., that do not involve romantic or physical activity. They're habitually parasitic and exploitative, they'll use anyone for any purpose, if they can get away with it.




                                • They're users; they enjoy bragging about their son's achievements, yet constantly criticize and never give him any praise or reward for his efforts.

                                • She's a user; she treats her daughter like a servant, while refusing her even a small allowance or some time to herself.

                                • He uses his son's celebrity to make himself feel famous; he likes the attention.






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                                  Just to clarify, the 1st person cares more about the other’s actions than the other’s well being.




                                  Where I'm from (southern American English), we often call such a person a user: someone who maintains a relationship solely for the purpose of exploitation or parasitism.



                                  But it's common enough usage to be included in Urban Dictionary, where it is adequately defined.



                                  Two synonyms of user: gold-digger, pimp



                                  However, user may be applied to relationships such as friendships, etc., that do not involve romantic or physical activity. They're habitually parasitic and exploitative, they'll use anyone for any purpose, if they can get away with it.




                                  • They're users; they enjoy bragging about their son's achievements, yet constantly criticize and never give him any praise or reward for his efforts.

                                  • She's a user; she treats her daughter like a servant, while refusing her even a small allowance or some time to herself.

                                  • He uses his son's celebrity to make himself feel famous; he likes the attention.






                                  share|improve this answer















                                  Just to clarify, the 1st person cares more about the other’s actions than the other’s well being.




                                  Where I'm from (southern American English), we often call such a person a user: someone who maintains a relationship solely for the purpose of exploitation or parasitism.



                                  But it's common enough usage to be included in Urban Dictionary, where it is adequately defined.



                                  Two synonyms of user: gold-digger, pimp



                                  However, user may be applied to relationships such as friendships, etc., that do not involve romantic or physical activity. They're habitually parasitic and exploitative, they'll use anyone for any purpose, if they can get away with it.




                                  • They're users; they enjoy bragging about their son's achievements, yet constantly criticize and never give him any praise or reward for his efforts.

                                  • She's a user; she treats her daughter like a servant, while refusing her even a small allowance or some time to herself.

                                  • He uses his son's celebrity to make himself feel famous; he likes the attention.







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                                      I can think of wicked stepmother and pushy parent. This last is less an archetype than it is a literal description of something commonly encountered. It isn't a reference to any one character, it is just a very common phrase. You didn't specify parents...






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                                        I can think of wicked stepmother and pushy parent. This last is less an archetype than it is a literal description of something commonly encountered. It isn't a reference to any one character, it is just a very common phrase. You didn't specify parents...






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                                          I can think of wicked stepmother and pushy parent. This last is less an archetype than it is a literal description of something commonly encountered. It isn't a reference to any one character, it is just a very common phrase. You didn't specify parents...






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                                          I can think of wicked stepmother and pushy parent. This last is less an archetype than it is a literal description of something commonly encountered. It isn't a reference to any one character, it is just a very common phrase. You didn't specify parents...







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                                              This is a loaded word in many ways, so I hesitate to use this, but have you thought about narcissist?



                                              A person who has an excessive interest in or admiration of themselves.


                                              In this case, they care only how the child's actions reflect upon themselves, and not about the actual child. A narcissist wants to be seen as raising a good child, but doesn't actually care whether or not they do.






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                                                This is a loaded word in many ways, so I hesitate to use this, but have you thought about narcissist?



                                                A person who has an excessive interest in or admiration of themselves.


                                                In this case, they care only how the child's actions reflect upon themselves, and not about the actual child. A narcissist wants to be seen as raising a good child, but doesn't actually care whether or not they do.






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                                                  This is a loaded word in many ways, so I hesitate to use this, but have you thought about narcissist?



                                                  A person who has an excessive interest in or admiration of themselves.


                                                  In this case, they care only how the child's actions reflect upon themselves, and not about the actual child. A narcissist wants to be seen as raising a good child, but doesn't actually care whether or not they do.






                                                  share|improve this answer












                                                  This is a loaded word in many ways, so I hesitate to use this, but have you thought about narcissist?



                                                  A person who has an excessive interest in or admiration of themselves.


                                                  In this case, they care only how the child's actions reflect upon themselves, and not about the actual child. A narcissist wants to be seen as raising a good child, but doesn't actually care whether or not they do.







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                                                      Such a person who is worried over their child's actions (apparently the ones they disapprove of) even at the cost of the child's well-being is usually called a tyrant (sometimes suffixed with of a father/mother).



                                                      ODO:




                                                      tyrant
                                                      NOUN



                                                      1.1 A person exercising power or control in a cruel, unreasonable, or arbitrary way.



                                                      ‘There's this tyrant of a father - whom we've changed to a tyrant of a
                                                      mother - who's saying marry this guy or die.’



                                                      ‘Svensson takes on the persona of Strindberg and talks about his life
                                                      from a childhood intimidated by a tyrant of a father to the time of
                                                      his relationships with his three wives.’



                                                      ‘After all, she and her husband were not tyrants.’







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                                                        Such a person who is worried over their child's actions (apparently the ones they disapprove of) even at the cost of the child's well-being is usually called a tyrant (sometimes suffixed with of a father/mother).



                                                        ODO:




                                                        tyrant
                                                        NOUN



                                                        1.1 A person exercising power or control in a cruel, unreasonable, or arbitrary way.



                                                        ‘There's this tyrant of a father - whom we've changed to a tyrant of a
                                                        mother - who's saying marry this guy or die.’



                                                        ‘Svensson takes on the persona of Strindberg and talks about his life
                                                        from a childhood intimidated by a tyrant of a father to the time of
                                                        his relationships with his three wives.’



                                                        ‘After all, she and her husband were not tyrants.’







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                                                          Such a person who is worried over their child's actions (apparently the ones they disapprove of) even at the cost of the child's well-being is usually called a tyrant (sometimes suffixed with of a father/mother).



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                                                          tyrant
                                                          NOUN



                                                          1.1 A person exercising power or control in a cruel, unreasonable, or arbitrary way.



                                                          ‘There's this tyrant of a father - whom we've changed to a tyrant of a
                                                          mother - who's saying marry this guy or die.’



                                                          ‘Svensson takes on the persona of Strindberg and talks about his life
                                                          from a childhood intimidated by a tyrant of a father to the time of
                                                          his relationships with his three wives.’



                                                          ‘After all, she and her husband were not tyrants.’







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                                                          Such a person who is worried over their child's actions (apparently the ones they disapprove of) even at the cost of the child's well-being is usually called a tyrant (sometimes suffixed with of a father/mother).



                                                          ODO:




                                                          tyrant
                                                          NOUN



                                                          1.1 A person exercising power or control in a cruel, unreasonable, or arbitrary way.



                                                          ‘There's this tyrant of a father - whom we've changed to a tyrant of a
                                                          mother - who's saying marry this guy or die.’



                                                          ‘Svensson takes on the persona of Strindberg and talks about his life
                                                          from a childhood intimidated by a tyrant of a father to the time of
                                                          his relationships with his three wives.’



                                                          ‘After all, she and her husband were not tyrants.’








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