In solfège, can you pronounce “sol” like “so”?











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From the dictionaries, it seems like at least in American English, "sol" (as in "do, re, mi, fa, sol") is always pronounced "sole," but there's a spelling variation "so" is pronounced "so".




  • Oxford (or whatever dictionary Google sources): /sōl/

  • Merriam-Webster: /sōl/, or less commonly so /sō/

  • dictionary.com: /sohl/; also, so


So it seems like if you want to say /soʊ/, you have to spell it like "so"; and if see "sol", you have to say /soʊl/.



This seems strange, though, since I've almost always heard it pronounced like "so", but "sol" is still a pretty common spelling.



For instance, in these two pretty popular songs, it's pronounced "so" (but then again, the lyrics don't write it as "sol"):





  • The Sound of Music - Do Re Mi: "sew, a needle pulling thread"


  • blackbear - do re mi ft. Gucci Mane: "do, re, mi, fa, so fuckin' done with you, girl"


So are the dictionaries correct and "sol" = /soʊl/ and "so" = /soʊ/, or is pronouncing "sol" as /soʊ/ okay?



(If this isn't broadening the question too much, I'd also like to ask whether "sole" or "so" is the more usual pronunciation.)










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    My dictionary gives both pronunciations.
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  • I looked at the pronunciations in OED, and it's pretty weird: Brit. /sɒl/ and /səʊl/; U.S. /sɔl/ and /sɑl/. So it looks like it's not even always the same vowel sound.
    – Laurel
    Dec 9 '17 at 3:04






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    I (in the UK) was taught 'do, re, mi, fa, so'. According to Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solf%C3%A8ge it's supposed to be written 'sol' but pronounced 'so'.
    – Kate Bunting
    Dec 9 '17 at 9:22






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    So' may be viewed as a corruption of sol for the solfege system, and may come about because the next step on the scale is la, so that the /l/ sounds get jammed together into one: sola, and then, pried apart again, become to the ear so la.
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    Oct 12 at 13:25










  • Wait... so you're not asking about how to pronounce 'solfège'?
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From the dictionaries, it seems like at least in American English, "sol" (as in "do, re, mi, fa, sol") is always pronounced "sole," but there's a spelling variation "so" is pronounced "so".




  • Oxford (or whatever dictionary Google sources): /sōl/

  • Merriam-Webster: /sōl/, or less commonly so /sō/

  • dictionary.com: /sohl/; also, so


So it seems like if you want to say /soʊ/, you have to spell it like "so"; and if see "sol", you have to say /soʊl/.



This seems strange, though, since I've almost always heard it pronounced like "so", but "sol" is still a pretty common spelling.



For instance, in these two pretty popular songs, it's pronounced "so" (but then again, the lyrics don't write it as "sol"):





  • The Sound of Music - Do Re Mi: "sew, a needle pulling thread"


  • blackbear - do re mi ft. Gucci Mane: "do, re, mi, fa, so fuckin' done with you, girl"


So are the dictionaries correct and "sol" = /soʊl/ and "so" = /soʊ/, or is pronouncing "sol" as /soʊ/ okay?



(If this isn't broadening the question too much, I'd also like to ask whether "sole" or "so" is the more usual pronunciation.)










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    My dictionary gives both pronunciations.
    – Jim
    Dec 9 '17 at 2:26










  • I looked at the pronunciations in OED, and it's pretty weird: Brit. /sɒl/ and /səʊl/; U.S. /sɔl/ and /sɑl/. So it looks like it's not even always the same vowel sound.
    – Laurel
    Dec 9 '17 at 3:04






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    I (in the UK) was taught 'do, re, mi, fa, so'. According to Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solf%C3%A8ge it's supposed to be written 'sol' but pronounced 'so'.
    – Kate Bunting
    Dec 9 '17 at 9:22






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    So' may be viewed as a corruption of sol for the solfege system, and may come about because the next step on the scale is la, so that the /l/ sounds get jammed together into one: sola, and then, pried apart again, become to the ear so la.
    – Robusto
    Oct 12 at 13:25










  • Wait... so you're not asking about how to pronounce 'solfège'?
    – Mitch
    Oct 12 at 14:10













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From the dictionaries, it seems like at least in American English, "sol" (as in "do, re, mi, fa, sol") is always pronounced "sole," but there's a spelling variation "so" is pronounced "so".




  • Oxford (or whatever dictionary Google sources): /sōl/

  • Merriam-Webster: /sōl/, or less commonly so /sō/

  • dictionary.com: /sohl/; also, so


So it seems like if you want to say /soʊ/, you have to spell it like "so"; and if see "sol", you have to say /soʊl/.



This seems strange, though, since I've almost always heard it pronounced like "so", but "sol" is still a pretty common spelling.



For instance, in these two pretty popular songs, it's pronounced "so" (but then again, the lyrics don't write it as "sol"):





  • The Sound of Music - Do Re Mi: "sew, a needle pulling thread"


  • blackbear - do re mi ft. Gucci Mane: "do, re, mi, fa, so fuckin' done with you, girl"


So are the dictionaries correct and "sol" = /soʊl/ and "so" = /soʊ/, or is pronouncing "sol" as /soʊ/ okay?



(If this isn't broadening the question too much, I'd also like to ask whether "sole" or "so" is the more usual pronunciation.)










share|improve this question













From the dictionaries, it seems like at least in American English, "sol" (as in "do, re, mi, fa, sol") is always pronounced "sole," but there's a spelling variation "so" is pronounced "so".




  • Oxford (or whatever dictionary Google sources): /sōl/

  • Merriam-Webster: /sōl/, or less commonly so /sō/

  • dictionary.com: /sohl/; also, so


So it seems like if you want to say /soʊ/, you have to spell it like "so"; and if see "sol", you have to say /soʊl/.



This seems strange, though, since I've almost always heard it pronounced like "so", but "sol" is still a pretty common spelling.



For instance, in these two pretty popular songs, it's pronounced "so" (but then again, the lyrics don't write it as "sol"):





  • The Sound of Music - Do Re Mi: "sew, a needle pulling thread"


  • blackbear - do re mi ft. Gucci Mane: "do, re, mi, fa, so fuckin' done with you, girl"


So are the dictionaries correct and "sol" = /soʊl/ and "so" = /soʊ/, or is pronouncing "sol" as /soʊ/ okay?



(If this isn't broadening the question too much, I'd also like to ask whether "sole" or "so" is the more usual pronunciation.)







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    My dictionary gives both pronunciations.
    – Jim
    Dec 9 '17 at 2:26










  • I looked at the pronunciations in OED, and it's pretty weird: Brit. /sɒl/ and /səʊl/; U.S. /sɔl/ and /sɑl/. So it looks like it's not even always the same vowel sound.
    – Laurel
    Dec 9 '17 at 3:04






  • 2




    I (in the UK) was taught 'do, re, mi, fa, so'. According to Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solf%C3%A8ge it's supposed to be written 'sol' but pronounced 'so'.
    – Kate Bunting
    Dec 9 '17 at 9:22






  • 3




    So' may be viewed as a corruption of sol for the solfege system, and may come about because the next step on the scale is la, so that the /l/ sounds get jammed together into one: sola, and then, pried apart again, become to the ear so la.
    – Robusto
    Oct 12 at 13:25










  • Wait... so you're not asking about how to pronounce 'solfège'?
    – Mitch
    Oct 12 at 14:10














  • 2




    My dictionary gives both pronunciations.
    – Jim
    Dec 9 '17 at 2:26










  • I looked at the pronunciations in OED, and it's pretty weird: Brit. /sɒl/ and /səʊl/; U.S. /sɔl/ and /sɑl/. So it looks like it's not even always the same vowel sound.
    – Laurel
    Dec 9 '17 at 3:04






  • 2




    I (in the UK) was taught 'do, re, mi, fa, so'. According to Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solf%C3%A8ge it's supposed to be written 'sol' but pronounced 'so'.
    – Kate Bunting
    Dec 9 '17 at 9:22






  • 3




    So' may be viewed as a corruption of sol for the solfege system, and may come about because the next step on the scale is la, so that the /l/ sounds get jammed together into one: sola, and then, pried apart again, become to the ear so la.
    – Robusto
    Oct 12 at 13:25










  • Wait... so you're not asking about how to pronounce 'solfège'?
    – Mitch
    Oct 12 at 14:10








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My dictionary gives both pronunciations.
– Jim
Dec 9 '17 at 2:26




My dictionary gives both pronunciations.
– Jim
Dec 9 '17 at 2:26












I looked at the pronunciations in OED, and it's pretty weird: Brit. /sɒl/ and /səʊl/; U.S. /sɔl/ and /sɑl/. So it looks like it's not even always the same vowel sound.
– Laurel
Dec 9 '17 at 3:04




I looked at the pronunciations in OED, and it's pretty weird: Brit. /sɒl/ and /səʊl/; U.S. /sɔl/ and /sɑl/. So it looks like it's not even always the same vowel sound.
– Laurel
Dec 9 '17 at 3:04




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I (in the UK) was taught 'do, re, mi, fa, so'. According to Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solf%C3%A8ge it's supposed to be written 'sol' but pronounced 'so'.
– Kate Bunting
Dec 9 '17 at 9:22




I (in the UK) was taught 'do, re, mi, fa, so'. According to Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solf%C3%A8ge it's supposed to be written 'sol' but pronounced 'so'.
– Kate Bunting
Dec 9 '17 at 9:22




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So' may be viewed as a corruption of sol for the solfege system, and may come about because the next step on the scale is la, so that the /l/ sounds get jammed together into one: sola, and then, pried apart again, become to the ear so la.
– Robusto
Oct 12 at 13:25




So' may be viewed as a corruption of sol for the solfege system, and may come about because the next step on the scale is la, so that the /l/ sounds get jammed together into one: sola, and then, pried apart again, become to the ear so la.
– Robusto
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Wait... so you're not asking about how to pronounce 'solfège'?
– Mitch
Oct 12 at 14:10




Wait... so you're not asking about how to pronounce 'solfège'?
– Mitch
Oct 12 at 14:10










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In my chorus class, we generally drop the 'L' and pronounce it as 'so'. I honestly don't think it matters which way you say it; as long as your not going to get marked off for it.






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    So' may be viewed as a corruption of sol for the solfège system, and may come about because the next step on the scale is la, so that the /l/ sounds get jammed together into one: sola, and then, pried apart again, become to the ear so la.







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      In my chorus class, we generally drop the 'L' and pronounce it as 'so'. I honestly don't think it matters which way you say it; as long as your not going to get marked off for it.






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        In my chorus class, we generally drop the 'L' and pronounce it as 'so'. I honestly don't think it matters which way you say it; as long as your not going to get marked off for it.






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          In my chorus class, we generally drop the 'L' and pronounce it as 'so'. I honestly don't think it matters which way you say it; as long as your not going to get marked off for it.






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          In my chorus class, we generally drop the 'L' and pronounce it as 'so'. I honestly don't think it matters which way you say it; as long as your not going to get marked off for it.







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              So' may be viewed as a corruption of sol for the solfège system, and may come about because the next step on the scale is la, so that the /l/ sounds get jammed together into one: sola, and then, pried apart again, become to the ear so la.







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                So' may be viewed as a corruption of sol for the solfège system, and may come about because the next step on the scale is la, so that the /l/ sounds get jammed together into one: sola, and then, pried apart again, become to the ear so la.







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                  So' may be viewed as a corruption of sol for the solfège system, and may come about because the next step on the scale is la, so that the /l/ sounds get jammed together into one: sola, and then, pried apart again, become to the ear so la.







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                  So' may be viewed as a corruption of sol for the solfège system, and may come about because the next step on the scale is la, so that the /l/ sounds get jammed together into one: sola, and then, pried apart again, become to the ear so la.








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