Is it possible to activate the watchdog on any Linux system?
On an Orange Pi Zero running a Raspbian server, it's possible to use the watchdog very easily just by running the command echo 1 > /dev/watchdog as root. The idea is that the system will certainly reboot after some time that this command is executed, so I need to keep repeating this command in a regular interval of time to keep the system on. We can implement a watchdog using cron as root and making it execute the following script on boot:
#!/bin/bash
while [ true ]; do
echo 1 > /dev/watchdog
sleep 5
done
This script works fine on the Orange Pi Zero... However, on my desktop computer running the Ubuntu 18.04 the command echo 1 > /dev/watchdog doesn't work at all. Is it possible to activate the watchdog on any device running Linux? Or is it one parameter that needs to be specified on the Kernel while it's compiled?
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On an Orange Pi Zero running a Raspbian server, it's possible to use the watchdog very easily just by running the command echo 1 > /dev/watchdog as root. The idea is that the system will certainly reboot after some time that this command is executed, so I need to keep repeating this command in a regular interval of time to keep the system on. We can implement a watchdog using cron as root and making it execute the following script on boot:
#!/bin/bash
while [ true ]; do
echo 1 > /dev/watchdog
sleep 5
done
This script works fine on the Orange Pi Zero... However, on my desktop computer running the Ubuntu 18.04 the command echo 1 > /dev/watchdog doesn't work at all. Is it possible to activate the watchdog on any device running Linux? Or is it one parameter that needs to be specified on the Kernel while it's compiled?
linux-kernel raspbian watchdog
asked 2 hours ago
Rafael Muynarsk
353515
add a comment |
On an Orange Pi Zero running a Raspbian server, it's possible to use the watchdog very easily just by running the command echo 1 > /dev/watchdog as root. The idea is that the system will certainly reboot after some time that this command is executed, so I need to keep repeating this command in a regular interval of time to keep the system on. We can implement a watchdog using cron as root and making it execute the following script on boot:
#!/bin/bash
while [ true ]; do
echo 1 > /dev/watchdog
sleep 5
done
This script works fine on the Orange Pi Zero... However, on my desktop computer running the Ubuntu 18.04 the command echo 1 > /dev/watchdog doesn't work at all. Is it possible to activate the watchdog on any device running Linux? Or is it one parameter that needs to be specified on the Kernel while it's compiled?
linux-kernel raspbian watchdog
asked 2 hours ago
Rafael Muynarsk
353515
On an Orange Pi Zero running a Raspbian server, it's possible to use the watchdog very easily just by running the command echo 1 > /dev/watchdog as root. The idea is that the system will certainly reboot after some time that this command is executed, so I need to keep repeating this command in a regular interval of time to keep the system on. We can implement a watchdog using cron as root and making it execute the following script on boot:
#!/bin/bash
while [ true ]; do
echo 1 > /dev/watchdog
sleep 5
done
This script works fine on the Orange Pi Zero... However, on my desktop computer running the Ubuntu 18.04 the command echo 1 > /dev/watchdog doesn't work at all. Is it possible to activate the watchdog on any device running Linux? Or is it one parameter that needs to be specified on the Kernel while it's compiled?
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There are two types of watchdog; hardware and software. On the Orange Pi the SOC chip provides a hardware watchdog. If initialised then it needs to be pinged every so often, otherwise it performs a board reset.
However not many desktops have hardware watchdogs, so the kernel provides a software version. Now the kernel will try and keep track, and force a reboot. This isn't as good as a hardware watchdog because if the kernel, itself, breaks then nothing will trigger the reset. But it works.
The software watchdog can be initialised by loading the softdog module
% modprobe softdog
% dmesg | tail -1
[ 120.573945] softdog: Software Watchdog Timer: 0.08 initialized. soft_noboot=0 soft_margin=60 sec soft_panic=0 (nowayout=0)
We can see this has a 60 second timeout by default.
If I then do
% echo > /dev/watchdog
% dmesg | tail -1
[ 154.514976] watchdog: watchdog0: watchdog did not stop!
We can see the watchdog hadn't timed out.
I then leave the machine idle for a minute and on the console I see
[ 214.624112] softdog: Initiating system reboot
and the OS reboots.
answered 1 hour ago
Stephen Harris
25k24477
Many desktops, laptops and servers include hardware watchdogs, often in their Super-I/O chips, or in their PCH; see the various “wdt” modules in the kernel.
– Stephen Kitt
1 hour ago
@StephenHarris Can I assume that when the commandecho > /dev/watchdogdoesn't work at first it's because there's no hardware watchdog for that device? Or there's still the possibility that I need to activate the hardware watchdog before using it?
– Rafael Muynarsk
1 hour ago
1
If/dev/watchdogdoesn't exist (or isn't a character device) and you know your hardware has a watchdog, then you may need tomodprobethe relevant hardware driver... Modern distro's will try to load this automatically, but you may have an edge-case. None of my machines have a/dev/watchdogentry :-(
– Stephen Harris
1 hour ago
1
“Many”, not “all” ;-). My last two personal PCs (2003, 2013) have supportediTCO_wdt, and all my work PCs for the last decade or so have supported one driver or another, but it isn’t loaded automatically; as you mention, in many cases the relevant module needs to be loaded manually, and sometimes the firmware setup has to be configured appropriately too (and sometimes a jumper must be moved on the main board).
– Stephen Kitt
52 mins ago
1
@Rafael the BIOS or UEFI setup on a PC.
– Stephen Kitt
46 mins ago
|
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There are two types of watchdog; hardware and software. On the Orange Pi the SOC chip provides a hardware watchdog. If initialised then it needs to be pinged every so often, otherwise it performs a board reset.
However not many desktops have hardware watchdogs, so the kernel provides a software version. Now the kernel will try and keep track, and force a reboot. This isn't as good as a hardware watchdog because if the kernel, itself, breaks then nothing will trigger the reset. But it works.
The software watchdog can be initialised by loading the softdog module
% modprobe softdog
% dmesg | tail -1
[ 120.573945] softdog: Software Watchdog Timer: 0.08 initialized. soft_noboot=0 soft_margin=60 sec soft_panic=0 (nowayout=0)
We can see this has a 60 second timeout by default.
If I then do
% echo > /dev/watchdog
% dmesg | tail -1
[ 154.514976] watchdog: watchdog0: watchdog did not stop!
We can see the watchdog hadn't timed out.
I then leave the machine idle for a minute and on the console I see
[ 214.624112] softdog: Initiating system reboot
and the OS reboots.
answered 1 hour ago
Stephen Harris
25k24477
Many desktops, laptops and servers include hardware watchdogs, often in their Super-I/O chips, or in their PCH; see the various “wdt” modules in the kernel.
– Stephen Kitt
1 hour ago
@StephenHarris Can I assume that when the commandecho > /dev/watchdogdoesn't work at first it's because there's no hardware watchdog for that device? Or there's still the possibility that I need to activate the hardware watchdog before using it?
– Rafael Muynarsk
1 hour ago
1
If/dev/watchdogdoesn't exist (or isn't a character device) and you know your hardware has a watchdog, then you may need tomodprobethe relevant hardware driver... Modern distro's will try to load this automatically, but you may have an edge-case. None of my machines have a/dev/watchdogentry :-(
– Stephen Harris
1 hour ago
1
“Many”, not “all” ;-). My last two personal PCs (2003, 2013) have supportediTCO_wdt, and all my work PCs for the last decade or so have supported one driver or another, but it isn’t loaded automatically; as you mention, in many cases the relevant module needs to be loaded manually, and sometimes the firmware setup has to be configured appropriately too (and sometimes a jumper must be moved on the main board).
– Stephen Kitt
52 mins ago
1
@Rafael the BIOS or UEFI setup on a PC.
– Stephen Kitt
46 mins ago
|
show 2 more comments
There are two types of watchdog; hardware and software. On the Orange Pi the SOC chip provides a hardware watchdog. If initialised then it needs to be pinged every so often, otherwise it performs a board reset.
However not many desktops have hardware watchdogs, so the kernel provides a software version. Now the kernel will try and keep track, and force a reboot. This isn't as good as a hardware watchdog because if the kernel, itself, breaks then nothing will trigger the reset. But it works.
The software watchdog can be initialised by loading the softdog module
% modprobe softdog
% dmesg | tail -1
[ 120.573945] softdog: Software Watchdog Timer: 0.08 initialized. soft_noboot=0 soft_margin=60 sec soft_panic=0 (nowayout=0)
We can see this has a 60 second timeout by default.
If I then do
% echo > /dev/watchdog
% dmesg | tail -1
[ 154.514976] watchdog: watchdog0: watchdog did not stop!
We can see the watchdog hadn't timed out.
I then leave the machine idle for a minute and on the console I see
[ 214.624112] softdog: Initiating system reboot
and the OS reboots.
answered 1 hour ago
Stephen Harris
25k24477
Many desktops, laptops and servers include hardware watchdogs, often in their Super-I/O chips, or in their PCH; see the various “wdt” modules in the kernel.
– Stephen Kitt
1 hour ago
@StephenHarris Can I assume that when the commandecho > /dev/watchdogdoesn't work at first it's because there's no hardware watchdog for that device? Or there's still the possibility that I need to activate the hardware watchdog before using it?
– Rafael Muynarsk
1 hour ago
1
If/dev/watchdogdoesn't exist (or isn't a character device) and you know your hardware has a watchdog, then you may need tomodprobethe relevant hardware driver... Modern distro's will try to load this automatically, but you may have an edge-case. None of my machines have a/dev/watchdogentry :-(
– Stephen Harris
1 hour ago
1
“Many”, not “all” ;-). My last two personal PCs (2003, 2013) have supportediTCO_wdt, and all my work PCs for the last decade or so have supported one driver or another, but it isn’t loaded automatically; as you mention, in many cases the relevant module needs to be loaded manually, and sometimes the firmware setup has to be configured appropriately too (and sometimes a jumper must be moved on the main board).
– Stephen Kitt
52 mins ago
1
@Rafael the BIOS or UEFI setup on a PC.
– Stephen Kitt
46 mins ago
|
show 2 more comments
There are two types of watchdog; hardware and software. On the Orange Pi the SOC chip provides a hardware watchdog. If initialised then it needs to be pinged every so often, otherwise it performs a board reset.
However not many desktops have hardware watchdogs, so the kernel provides a software version. Now the kernel will try and keep track, and force a reboot. This isn't as good as a hardware watchdog because if the kernel, itself, breaks then nothing will trigger the reset. But it works.
The software watchdog can be initialised by loading the softdog module
% modprobe softdog
% dmesg | tail -1
[ 120.573945] softdog: Software Watchdog Timer: 0.08 initialized. soft_noboot=0 soft_margin=60 sec soft_panic=0 (nowayout=0)
We can see this has a 60 second timeout by default.
If I then do
% echo > /dev/watchdog
% dmesg | tail -1
[ 154.514976] watchdog: watchdog0: watchdog did not stop!
We can see the watchdog hadn't timed out.
I then leave the machine idle for a minute and on the console I see
[ 214.624112] softdog: Initiating system reboot
and the OS reboots.
answered 1 hour ago
Stephen Harris
25k24477
There are two types of watchdog; hardware and software. On the Orange Pi the SOC chip provides a hardware watchdog. If initialised then it needs to be pinged every so often, otherwise it performs a board reset.
However not many desktops have hardware watchdogs, so the kernel provides a software version. Now the kernel will try and keep track, and force a reboot. This isn't as good as a hardware watchdog because if the kernel, itself, breaks then nothing will trigger the reset. But it works.
The software watchdog can be initialised by loading the softdog module
% modprobe softdog
% dmesg | tail -1
[ 120.573945] softdog: Software Watchdog Timer: 0.08 initialized. soft_noboot=0 soft_margin=60 sec soft_panic=0 (nowayout=0)
We can see this has a 60 second timeout by default.
If I then do
% echo > /dev/watchdog
% dmesg | tail -1
[ 154.514976] watchdog: watchdog0: watchdog did not stop!
We can see the watchdog hadn't timed out.
I then leave the machine idle for a minute and on the console I see
[ 214.624112] softdog: Initiating system reboot
and the OS reboots.
answered 1 hour ago
Stephen Harris
25k24477
answered 1 hour ago
Stephen Harris
25k24477
answered 1 hour ago
Stephen Harris
25k24477
answered 1 hour ago
Stephen Harris
25k24477
25k24477
Many desktops, laptops and servers include hardware watchdogs, often in their Super-I/O chips, or in their PCH; see the various “wdt” modules in the kernel.
– Stephen Kitt
1 hour ago
@StephenHarris Can I assume that when the commandecho > /dev/watchdogdoesn't work at first it's because there's no hardware watchdog for that device? Or there's still the possibility that I need to activate the hardware watchdog before using it?
– Rafael Muynarsk
1 hour ago
1
If/dev/watchdogdoesn't exist (or isn't a character device) and you know your hardware has a watchdog, then you may need tomodprobethe relevant hardware driver... Modern distro's will try to load this automatically, but you may have an edge-case. None of my machines have a/dev/watchdogentry :-(
– Stephen Harris
1 hour ago
1
“Many”, not “all” ;-). My last two personal PCs (2003, 2013) have supportediTCO_wdt, and all my work PCs for the last decade or so have supported one driver or another, but it isn’t loaded automatically; as you mention, in many cases the relevant module needs to be loaded manually, and sometimes the firmware setup has to be configured appropriately too (and sometimes a jumper must be moved on the main board).
– Stephen Kitt
52 mins ago
1
@Rafael the BIOS or UEFI setup on a PC.
– Stephen Kitt
46 mins ago
|
show 2 more comments
Many desktops, laptops and servers include hardware watchdogs, often in their Super-I/O chips, or in their PCH; see the various “wdt” modules in the kernel.
– Stephen Kitt
1 hour ago
@StephenHarris Can I assume that when the commandecho > /dev/watchdogdoesn't work at first it's because there's no hardware watchdog for that device? Or there's still the possibility that I need to activate the hardware watchdog before using it?
– Rafael Muynarsk
1 hour ago
1
If/dev/watchdogdoesn't exist (or isn't a character device) and you know your hardware has a watchdog, then you may need tomodprobethe relevant hardware driver... Modern distro's will try to load this automatically, but you may have an edge-case. None of my machines have a/dev/watchdogentry :-(
– Stephen Harris
1 hour ago
1
“Many”, not “all” ;-). My last two personal PCs (2003, 2013) have supportediTCO_wdt, and all my work PCs for the last decade or so have supported one driver or another, but it isn’t loaded automatically; as you mention, in many cases the relevant module needs to be loaded manually, and sometimes the firmware setup has to be configured appropriately too (and sometimes a jumper must be moved on the main board).
– Stephen Kitt
52 mins ago
1
@Rafael the BIOS or UEFI setup on a PC.
– Stephen Kitt
46 mins ago
Many desktops, laptops and servers include hardware watchdogs, often in their Super-I/O chips, or in their PCH; see the various “wdt” modules in the kernel.
– Stephen Kitt
1 hour ago
Many desktops, laptops and servers include hardware watchdogs, often in their Super-I/O chips, or in their PCH; see the various “wdt” modules in the kernel.
– Stephen Kitt
1 hour ago
@StephenHarris Can I assume that when the command
echo > /dev/watchdog doesn't work at first it's because there's no hardware watchdog for that device? Or there's still the possibility that I need to activate the hardware watchdog before using it?– Rafael Muynarsk
1 hour ago
@StephenHarris Can I assume that when the command
echo > /dev/watchdog doesn't work at first it's because there's no hardware watchdog for that device? Or there's still the possibility that I need to activate the hardware watchdog before using it?– Rafael Muynarsk
1 hour ago
1
1
If
/dev/watchdog doesn't exist (or isn't a character device) and you know your hardware has a watchdog, then you may need to modprobe the relevant hardware driver... Modern distro's will try to load this automatically, but you may have an edge-case. None of my machines have a /dev/watchdog entry :-(– Stephen Harris
1 hour ago
If
/dev/watchdog doesn't exist (or isn't a character device) and you know your hardware has a watchdog, then you may need to modprobe the relevant hardware driver... Modern distro's will try to load this automatically, but you may have an edge-case. None of my machines have a /dev/watchdog entry :-(– Stephen Harris
1 hour ago
1
1
“Many”, not “all” ;-). My last two personal PCs (2003, 2013) have supported
iTCO_wdt, and all my work PCs for the last decade or so have supported one driver or another, but it isn’t loaded automatically; as you mention, in many cases the relevant module needs to be loaded manually, and sometimes the firmware setup has to be configured appropriately too (and sometimes a jumper must be moved on the main board).– Stephen Kitt
52 mins ago
“Many”, not “all” ;-). My last two personal PCs (2003, 2013) have supported
iTCO_wdt, and all my work PCs for the last decade or so have supported one driver or another, but it isn’t loaded automatically; as you mention, in many cases the relevant module needs to be loaded manually, and sometimes the firmware setup has to be configured appropriately too (and sometimes a jumper must be moved on the main board).– Stephen Kitt
52 mins ago
1
1
@Rafael the BIOS or UEFI setup on a PC.
– Stephen Kitt
46 mins ago
@Rafael the BIOS or UEFI setup on a PC.
– Stephen Kitt
46 mins ago
|
show 2 more comments
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