Why did Dumbledore tell the Slytherins to go to their common room during the troll attack?
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In Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone there is a part where Professor Quirell informed everyone about the troll in the dungeon at Hogwarts and probably fakes his faint. Then Dumbledore tells everyone to be quiet and tells the prefects to take the students of their own house to their own common rooms.
But the common room of Slytherin is the dungeon. So why did Dumbledore tell the Slytherins to go there?
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In Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone there is a part where Professor Quirell informed everyone about the troll in the dungeon at Hogwarts and probably fakes his faint. Then Dumbledore tells everyone to be quiet and tells the prefects to take the students of their own house to their own common rooms.
But the common room of Slytherin is the dungeon. So why did Dumbledore tell the Slytherins to go there?
harry-potter
I have't read the books but I have seen a couple of the movies and lots of pictures of Hoqarts from the movies. Unless the
– M. A. Golding
Nov 22 at 17:00
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Oops. Continued. Unless the novel Hogwarts is much smaller than the movie one, the castle and its basement must spread through several large wings and towers. In English "dungeon" usually means an underground prison in a castle. Unless Hogwarts does imprison people, it can't have that type of a dungeon and thus "dungeon" must loosely mean the entire basement, which should be many times larger than the Slytherin common room in part of the basement. So the question is rather illogical.
– M. A. Golding
Nov 22 at 17:12
There's a relevant tweet for everything.
– indextwo
Nov 23 at 12:57
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@M. A. Golding They were going very close to troll even if the dungeon is big. Dumbledore could've told others to go and told them to stay in tge dining room.
– the-profile-that-was-promised
Nov 23 at 15:09
@Asif Iqubal Or possibly Dumbledore believed that the entire Slytherin house should be have been able to take down a troll easily.
– M. A. Golding
Nov 23 at 19:26
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In Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone there is a part where Professor Quirell informed everyone about the troll in the dungeon at Hogwarts and probably fakes his faint. Then Dumbledore tells everyone to be quiet and tells the prefects to take the students of their own house to their own common rooms.
But the common room of Slytherin is the dungeon. So why did Dumbledore tell the Slytherins to go there?
harry-potter
In Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone there is a part where Professor Quirell informed everyone about the troll in the dungeon at Hogwarts and probably fakes his faint. Then Dumbledore tells everyone to be quiet and tells the prefects to take the students of their own house to their own common rooms.
But the common room of Slytherin is the dungeon. So why did Dumbledore tell the Slytherins to go there?
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I have't read the books but I have seen a couple of the movies and lots of pictures of Hoqarts from the movies. Unless the
– M. A. Golding
Nov 22 at 17:00
3
Oops. Continued. Unless the novel Hogwarts is much smaller than the movie one, the castle and its basement must spread through several large wings and towers. In English "dungeon" usually means an underground prison in a castle. Unless Hogwarts does imprison people, it can't have that type of a dungeon and thus "dungeon" must loosely mean the entire basement, which should be many times larger than the Slytherin common room in part of the basement. So the question is rather illogical.
– M. A. Golding
Nov 22 at 17:12
There's a relevant tweet for everything.
– indextwo
Nov 23 at 12:57
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@M. A. Golding They were going very close to troll even if the dungeon is big. Dumbledore could've told others to go and told them to stay in tge dining room.
– the-profile-that-was-promised
Nov 23 at 15:09
@Asif Iqubal Or possibly Dumbledore believed that the entire Slytherin house should be have been able to take down a troll easily.
– M. A. Golding
Nov 23 at 19:26
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I have't read the books but I have seen a couple of the movies and lots of pictures of Hoqarts from the movies. Unless the
– M. A. Golding
Nov 22 at 17:00
3
Oops. Continued. Unless the novel Hogwarts is much smaller than the movie one, the castle and its basement must spread through several large wings and towers. In English "dungeon" usually means an underground prison in a castle. Unless Hogwarts does imprison people, it can't have that type of a dungeon and thus "dungeon" must loosely mean the entire basement, which should be many times larger than the Slytherin common room in part of the basement. So the question is rather illogical.
– M. A. Golding
Nov 22 at 17:12
There's a relevant tweet for everything.
– indextwo
Nov 23 at 12:57
2
@M. A. Golding They were going very close to troll even if the dungeon is big. Dumbledore could've told others to go and told them to stay in tge dining room.
– the-profile-that-was-promised
Nov 23 at 15:09
@Asif Iqubal Or possibly Dumbledore believed that the entire Slytherin house should be have been able to take down a troll easily.
– M. A. Golding
Nov 23 at 19:26
I have't read the books but I have seen a couple of the movies and lots of pictures of Hoqarts from the movies. Unless the
– M. A. Golding
Nov 22 at 17:00
I have't read the books but I have seen a couple of the movies and lots of pictures of Hoqarts from the movies. Unless the
– M. A. Golding
Nov 22 at 17:00
3
3
Oops. Continued. Unless the novel Hogwarts is much smaller than the movie one, the castle and its basement must spread through several large wings and towers. In English "dungeon" usually means an underground prison in a castle. Unless Hogwarts does imprison people, it can't have that type of a dungeon and thus "dungeon" must loosely mean the entire basement, which should be many times larger than the Slytherin common room in part of the basement. So the question is rather illogical.
– M. A. Golding
Nov 22 at 17:12
Oops. Continued. Unless the novel Hogwarts is much smaller than the movie one, the castle and its basement must spread through several large wings and towers. In English "dungeon" usually means an underground prison in a castle. Unless Hogwarts does imprison people, it can't have that type of a dungeon and thus "dungeon" must loosely mean the entire basement, which should be many times larger than the Slytherin common room in part of the basement. So the question is rather illogical.
– M. A. Golding
Nov 22 at 17:12
There's a relevant tweet for everything.
– indextwo
Nov 23 at 12:57
There's a relevant tweet for everything.
– indextwo
Nov 23 at 12:57
2
2
@M. A. Golding They were going very close to troll even if the dungeon is big. Dumbledore could've told others to go and told them to stay in tge dining room.
– the-profile-that-was-promised
Nov 23 at 15:09
@M. A. Golding They were going very close to troll even if the dungeon is big. Dumbledore could've told others to go and told them to stay in tge dining room.
– the-profile-that-was-promised
Nov 23 at 15:09
@Asif Iqubal Or possibly Dumbledore believed that the entire Slytherin house should be have been able to take down a troll easily.
– M. A. Golding
Nov 23 at 19:26
@Asif Iqubal Or possibly Dumbledore believed that the entire Slytherin house should be have been able to take down a troll easily.
– M. A. Golding
Nov 23 at 19:26
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This is the description of the dungeons leading to the Slytherin common room in Chamber of Secrets:
"The Slytherins always come up to breakfast from over there," said Ron, nodding at the entrance to the Dungeons. The words had barely left his mouth when a girl with long curly hair emerged from the entrance.
"Excuse me," said Ron, hurrying up to her, "we've forgotten the way to our common room."
"I beg your pardon?" said the girl stiffly. "Our common room? I'm a Ravenclaw."
She walked away, looking suspiciously back at them.
Harry and Ron hurried down the stone steps into the darkness, their footsteps echoing particularly loudly as Crabbe's and Goyle's huge feet hit the floor, feeling that this wasn't going to be as easy as they had hoped.
The labyrinthine passages were deserted. They walked deeper and deeper under the school, constantly checking their watches to see how much time they had left. After a quarter of an hour, just when they were getting desperate, they heard a sudden movement ahead.
From the last paragraph it is clear that the Dungeons are simply massive. While it might have been safer to keep the students in the Great Hall, Dumbledore may felt that there was little chance the Slytherins would actually run into the troll if they just went straight to their common room.
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Additionally, if they did encounter the troll, what better place could there possibly be for that encounter? The escorting prefects would presumably be sufficiently familiar with the dungeon that losing a troll of dubious mental ability would be child's play - particularly if the 7th year prefects were able to confuse the troll further, or simply slow it down a bit.
– Morgen
Nov 22 at 19:19
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The Slytherin common room is in the dungeons at Hogwarts, but isn't the entire dungeon. Several other rooms and corridors are down there, including (but not limited to) the Potions Classroom, Snape's Office and the many rooms that were traversed to get to the Philosopher's Stone. Presumably the Slytherin prefects took students via the quickest possible route to their common room, while maintaining caution there was a troll on the loose in the vicinity.
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This is an interesting question. Normally all dungeons in a castle are located in a certain area in order to have a more structured control over the prisoners. So, it is logical to question Dumbledore's decision to send the Slytherins in the direction of the attacking troll.
Then again, the Slytherin common room is located well below the castle. It is infact, underground because the windows to their Common room are below the Lake's surface. They can see the life inside the lake.
This makes me wonder if they had a different path to go their common rooms which circumvented the regular dungeons. Also, the design of a dormitory would be different from a dungeon so presumably these were created specially.
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This is the description of the dungeons leading to the Slytherin common room in Chamber of Secrets:
"The Slytherins always come up to breakfast from over there," said Ron, nodding at the entrance to the Dungeons. The words had barely left his mouth when a girl with long curly hair emerged from the entrance.
"Excuse me," said Ron, hurrying up to her, "we've forgotten the way to our common room."
"I beg your pardon?" said the girl stiffly. "Our common room? I'm a Ravenclaw."
She walked away, looking suspiciously back at them.
Harry and Ron hurried down the stone steps into the darkness, their footsteps echoing particularly loudly as Crabbe's and Goyle's huge feet hit the floor, feeling that this wasn't going to be as easy as they had hoped.
The labyrinthine passages were deserted. They walked deeper and deeper under the school, constantly checking their watches to see how much time they had left. After a quarter of an hour, just when they were getting desperate, they heard a sudden movement ahead.
From the last paragraph it is clear that the Dungeons are simply massive. While it might have been safer to keep the students in the Great Hall, Dumbledore may felt that there was little chance the Slytherins would actually run into the troll if they just went straight to their common room.
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Additionally, if they did encounter the troll, what better place could there possibly be for that encounter? The escorting prefects would presumably be sufficiently familiar with the dungeon that losing a troll of dubious mental ability would be child's play - particularly if the 7th year prefects were able to confuse the troll further, or simply slow it down a bit.
– Morgen
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This is the description of the dungeons leading to the Slytherin common room in Chamber of Secrets:
"The Slytherins always come up to breakfast from over there," said Ron, nodding at the entrance to the Dungeons. The words had barely left his mouth when a girl with long curly hair emerged from the entrance.
"Excuse me," said Ron, hurrying up to her, "we've forgotten the way to our common room."
"I beg your pardon?" said the girl stiffly. "Our common room? I'm a Ravenclaw."
She walked away, looking suspiciously back at them.
Harry and Ron hurried down the stone steps into the darkness, their footsteps echoing particularly loudly as Crabbe's and Goyle's huge feet hit the floor, feeling that this wasn't going to be as easy as they had hoped.
The labyrinthine passages were deserted. They walked deeper and deeper under the school, constantly checking their watches to see how much time they had left. After a quarter of an hour, just when they were getting desperate, they heard a sudden movement ahead.
From the last paragraph it is clear that the Dungeons are simply massive. While it might have been safer to keep the students in the Great Hall, Dumbledore may felt that there was little chance the Slytherins would actually run into the troll if they just went straight to their common room.
4
Additionally, if they did encounter the troll, what better place could there possibly be for that encounter? The escorting prefects would presumably be sufficiently familiar with the dungeon that losing a troll of dubious mental ability would be child's play - particularly if the 7th year prefects were able to confuse the troll further, or simply slow it down a bit.
– Morgen
Nov 22 at 19:19
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This is the description of the dungeons leading to the Slytherin common room in Chamber of Secrets:
"The Slytherins always come up to breakfast from over there," said Ron, nodding at the entrance to the Dungeons. The words had barely left his mouth when a girl with long curly hair emerged from the entrance.
"Excuse me," said Ron, hurrying up to her, "we've forgotten the way to our common room."
"I beg your pardon?" said the girl stiffly. "Our common room? I'm a Ravenclaw."
She walked away, looking suspiciously back at them.
Harry and Ron hurried down the stone steps into the darkness, their footsteps echoing particularly loudly as Crabbe's and Goyle's huge feet hit the floor, feeling that this wasn't going to be as easy as they had hoped.
The labyrinthine passages were deserted. They walked deeper and deeper under the school, constantly checking their watches to see how much time they had left. After a quarter of an hour, just when they were getting desperate, they heard a sudden movement ahead.
From the last paragraph it is clear that the Dungeons are simply massive. While it might have been safer to keep the students in the Great Hall, Dumbledore may felt that there was little chance the Slytherins would actually run into the troll if they just went straight to their common room.
This is the description of the dungeons leading to the Slytherin common room in Chamber of Secrets:
"The Slytherins always come up to breakfast from over there," said Ron, nodding at the entrance to the Dungeons. The words had barely left his mouth when a girl with long curly hair emerged from the entrance.
"Excuse me," said Ron, hurrying up to her, "we've forgotten the way to our common room."
"I beg your pardon?" said the girl stiffly. "Our common room? I'm a Ravenclaw."
She walked away, looking suspiciously back at them.
Harry and Ron hurried down the stone steps into the darkness, their footsteps echoing particularly loudly as Crabbe's and Goyle's huge feet hit the floor, feeling that this wasn't going to be as easy as they had hoped.
The labyrinthine passages were deserted. They walked deeper and deeper under the school, constantly checking their watches to see how much time they had left. After a quarter of an hour, just when they were getting desperate, they heard a sudden movement ahead.
From the last paragraph it is clear that the Dungeons are simply massive. While it might have been safer to keep the students in the Great Hall, Dumbledore may felt that there was little chance the Slytherins would actually run into the troll if they just went straight to their common room.
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Additionally, if they did encounter the troll, what better place could there possibly be for that encounter? The escorting prefects would presumably be sufficiently familiar with the dungeon that losing a troll of dubious mental ability would be child's play - particularly if the 7th year prefects were able to confuse the troll further, or simply slow it down a bit.
– Morgen
Nov 22 at 19:19
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Additionally, if they did encounter the troll, what better place could there possibly be for that encounter? The escorting prefects would presumably be sufficiently familiar with the dungeon that losing a troll of dubious mental ability would be child's play - particularly if the 7th year prefects were able to confuse the troll further, or simply slow it down a bit.
– Morgen
Nov 22 at 19:19
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Additionally, if they did encounter the troll, what better place could there possibly be for that encounter? The escorting prefects would presumably be sufficiently familiar with the dungeon that losing a troll of dubious mental ability would be child's play - particularly if the 7th year prefects were able to confuse the troll further, or simply slow it down a bit.
– Morgen
Nov 22 at 19:19
Additionally, if they did encounter the troll, what better place could there possibly be for that encounter? The escorting prefects would presumably be sufficiently familiar with the dungeon that losing a troll of dubious mental ability would be child's play - particularly if the 7th year prefects were able to confuse the troll further, or simply slow it down a bit.
– Morgen
Nov 22 at 19:19
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The Slytherin common room is in the dungeons at Hogwarts, but isn't the entire dungeon. Several other rooms and corridors are down there, including (but not limited to) the Potions Classroom, Snape's Office and the many rooms that were traversed to get to the Philosopher's Stone. Presumably the Slytherin prefects took students via the quickest possible route to their common room, while maintaining caution there was a troll on the loose in the vicinity.
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The Slytherin common room is in the dungeons at Hogwarts, but isn't the entire dungeon. Several other rooms and corridors are down there, including (but not limited to) the Potions Classroom, Snape's Office and the many rooms that were traversed to get to the Philosopher's Stone. Presumably the Slytherin prefects took students via the quickest possible route to their common room, while maintaining caution there was a troll on the loose in the vicinity.
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The Slytherin common room is in the dungeons at Hogwarts, but isn't the entire dungeon. Several other rooms and corridors are down there, including (but not limited to) the Potions Classroom, Snape's Office and the many rooms that were traversed to get to the Philosopher's Stone. Presumably the Slytherin prefects took students via the quickest possible route to their common room, while maintaining caution there was a troll on the loose in the vicinity.
The Slytherin common room is in the dungeons at Hogwarts, but isn't the entire dungeon. Several other rooms and corridors are down there, including (but not limited to) the Potions Classroom, Snape's Office and the many rooms that were traversed to get to the Philosopher's Stone. Presumably the Slytherin prefects took students via the quickest possible route to their common room, while maintaining caution there was a troll on the loose in the vicinity.
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This is an interesting question. Normally all dungeons in a castle are located in a certain area in order to have a more structured control over the prisoners. So, it is logical to question Dumbledore's decision to send the Slytherins in the direction of the attacking troll.
Then again, the Slytherin common room is located well below the castle. It is infact, underground because the windows to their Common room are below the Lake's surface. They can see the life inside the lake.
This makes me wonder if they had a different path to go their common rooms which circumvented the regular dungeons. Also, the design of a dormitory would be different from a dungeon so presumably these were created specially.
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This is an interesting question. Normally all dungeons in a castle are located in a certain area in order to have a more structured control over the prisoners. So, it is logical to question Dumbledore's decision to send the Slytherins in the direction of the attacking troll.
Then again, the Slytherin common room is located well below the castle. It is infact, underground because the windows to their Common room are below the Lake's surface. They can see the life inside the lake.
This makes me wonder if they had a different path to go their common rooms which circumvented the regular dungeons. Also, the design of a dormitory would be different from a dungeon so presumably these were created specially.
add a comment |
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This is an interesting question. Normally all dungeons in a castle are located in a certain area in order to have a more structured control over the prisoners. So, it is logical to question Dumbledore's decision to send the Slytherins in the direction of the attacking troll.
Then again, the Slytherin common room is located well below the castle. It is infact, underground because the windows to their Common room are below the Lake's surface. They can see the life inside the lake.
This makes me wonder if they had a different path to go their common rooms which circumvented the regular dungeons. Also, the design of a dormitory would be different from a dungeon so presumably these were created specially.
This is an interesting question. Normally all dungeons in a castle are located in a certain area in order to have a more structured control over the prisoners. So, it is logical to question Dumbledore's decision to send the Slytherins in the direction of the attacking troll.
Then again, the Slytherin common room is located well below the castle. It is infact, underground because the windows to their Common room are below the Lake's surface. They can see the life inside the lake.
This makes me wonder if they had a different path to go their common rooms which circumvented the regular dungeons. Also, the design of a dormitory would be different from a dungeon so presumably these were created specially.
answered Nov 24 at 0:46
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I have't read the books but I have seen a couple of the movies and lots of pictures of Hoqarts from the movies. Unless the
– M. A. Golding
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Oops. Continued. Unless the novel Hogwarts is much smaller than the movie one, the castle and its basement must spread through several large wings and towers. In English "dungeon" usually means an underground prison in a castle. Unless Hogwarts does imprison people, it can't have that type of a dungeon and thus "dungeon" must loosely mean the entire basement, which should be many times larger than the Slytherin common room in part of the basement. So the question is rather illogical.
– M. A. Golding
Nov 22 at 17:12
There's a relevant tweet for everything.
– indextwo
Nov 23 at 12:57
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@M. A. Golding They were going very close to troll even if the dungeon is big. Dumbledore could've told others to go and told them to stay in tge dining room.
– the-profile-that-was-promised
Nov 23 at 15:09
@Asif Iqubal Or possibly Dumbledore believed that the entire Slytherin house should be have been able to take down a troll easily.
– M. A. Golding
Nov 23 at 19:26