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Currently in the final stages of building a new website and have recently ran an accessibility checker. The checker is recommending changing my font sizes from px to em.
However when I do a straight forward conversion (16px to 1em) the font becomes really small. Am I missing something?



Here is my styling.



.bodyText {font-size: 16px !important; padding-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 20px;}
.bodyText a {color: #008080 !important; text-decoration: underline;}
.bodyText a:hover {color: #008080 !important;}
.bodyText li {font-size: 16px !important; color: #686868;}
.bodyText p {font-size: 16px !important; color: #686868;}
.bodyText p strong {color: #333333;}


All of this also sits in the body which has this attached.



body {font-size: 16px !important; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif !important; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal;}
tbody {font-size: 16px !important; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif !important; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal;}









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    16 px is NOT 1em - well it CAN be, it can also be 2px or 200px it is just different.
    – Mark Schultheiss
    Nov 22 at 16:26












  • Sorry, edited to show my css styling.
    – HannahM
    Nov 22 at 16:33










  • AND the markup please. Also as soon as you start using !important (nearly always a bad idea) things get really messy to edit and manage.
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Currently in the final stages of building a new website and have recently ran an accessibility checker. The checker is recommending changing my font sizes from px to em.
However when I do a straight forward conversion (16px to 1em) the font becomes really small. Am I missing something?



Here is my styling.



.bodyText {font-size: 16px !important; padding-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 20px;}
.bodyText a {color: #008080 !important; text-decoration: underline;}
.bodyText a:hover {color: #008080 !important;}
.bodyText li {font-size: 16px !important; color: #686868;}
.bodyText p {font-size: 16px !important; color: #686868;}
.bodyText p strong {color: #333333;}


All of this also sits in the body which has this attached.



body {font-size: 16px !important; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif !important; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal;}
tbody {font-size: 16px !important; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif !important; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal;}









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    16 px is NOT 1em - well it CAN be, it can also be 2px or 200px it is just different.
    – Mark Schultheiss
    Nov 22 at 16:26












  • Sorry, edited to show my css styling.
    – HannahM
    Nov 22 at 16:33










  • AND the markup please. Also as soon as you start using !important (nearly always a bad idea) things get really messy to edit and manage.
    – Mark Schultheiss
    Nov 22 at 16:37















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Currently in the final stages of building a new website and have recently ran an accessibility checker. The checker is recommending changing my font sizes from px to em.
However when I do a straight forward conversion (16px to 1em) the font becomes really small. Am I missing something?



Here is my styling.



.bodyText {font-size: 16px !important; padding-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 20px;}
.bodyText a {color: #008080 !important; text-decoration: underline;}
.bodyText a:hover {color: #008080 !important;}
.bodyText li {font-size: 16px !important; color: #686868;}
.bodyText p {font-size: 16px !important; color: #686868;}
.bodyText p strong {color: #333333;}


All of this also sits in the body which has this attached.



body {font-size: 16px !important; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif !important; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal;}
tbody {font-size: 16px !important; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif !important; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal;}









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Currently in the final stages of building a new website and have recently ran an accessibility checker. The checker is recommending changing my font sizes from px to em.
However when I do a straight forward conversion (16px to 1em) the font becomes really small. Am I missing something?



Here is my styling.



.bodyText {font-size: 16px !important; padding-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 20px;}
.bodyText a {color: #008080 !important; text-decoration: underline;}
.bodyText a:hover {color: #008080 !important;}
.bodyText li {font-size: 16px !important; color: #686868;}
.bodyText p {font-size: 16px !important; color: #686868;}
.bodyText p strong {color: #333333;}


All of this also sits in the body which has this attached.



body {font-size: 16px !important; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif !important; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal;}
tbody {font-size: 16px !important; font-family: "Source Sans Pro", sans-serif !important; font-style: normal; font-weight: normal;}






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    – Mark Schultheiss
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    16 px is NOT 1em - well it CAN be, it can also be 2px or 200px it is just different.
    – Mark Schultheiss
    Nov 22 at 16:26












  • Sorry, edited to show my css styling.
    – HannahM
    Nov 22 at 16:33










  • AND the markup please. Also as soon as you start using !important (nearly always a bad idea) things get really messy to edit and manage.
    – Mark Schultheiss
    Nov 22 at 16:37
















  • 1




    Please share your markup
    – Shahar Shukrani
    Nov 22 at 16:22






  • 1




    Please edit your question to include all the code needed to demonstrate your issue include HTML and CSS. Use a snippet (CTRL-M when you edit) stackoverflow.com/help/mcve
    – Mark Schultheiss
    Nov 22 at 16:25








  • 1




    16 px is NOT 1em - well it CAN be, it can also be 2px or 200px it is just different.
    – Mark Schultheiss
    Nov 22 at 16:26












  • Sorry, edited to show my css styling.
    – HannahM
    Nov 22 at 16:33










  • AND the markup please. Also as soon as you start using !important (nearly always a bad idea) things get really messy to edit and manage.
    – Mark Schultheiss
    Nov 22 at 16:37










1




1




Please share your markup
– Shahar Shukrani
Nov 22 at 16:22




Please share your markup
– Shahar Shukrani
Nov 22 at 16:22




1




1




Please edit your question to include all the code needed to demonstrate your issue include HTML and CSS. Use a snippet (CTRL-M when you edit) stackoverflow.com/help/mcve
– Mark Schultheiss
Nov 22 at 16:25






Please edit your question to include all the code needed to demonstrate your issue include HTML and CSS. Use a snippet (CTRL-M when you edit) stackoverflow.com/help/mcve
– Mark Schultheiss
Nov 22 at 16:25






1




1




16 px is NOT 1em - well it CAN be, it can also be 2px or 200px it is just different.
– Mark Schultheiss
Nov 22 at 16:26






16 px is NOT 1em - well it CAN be, it can also be 2px or 200px it is just different.
– Mark Schultheiss
Nov 22 at 16:26














Sorry, edited to show my css styling.
– HannahM
Nov 22 at 16:33




Sorry, edited to show my css styling.
– HannahM
Nov 22 at 16:33












AND the markup please. Also as soon as you start using !important (nearly always a bad idea) things get really messy to edit and manage.
– Mark Schultheiss
Nov 22 at 16:37






AND the markup please. Also as soon as you start using !important (nearly always a bad idea) things get really messy to edit and manage.
– Mark Schultheiss
Nov 22 at 16:37














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First of all let me say that EM is used locally and REM is used globally what do i mean with that?



Rem uses the html tag font-size so if:



html {
font-size: 16px;
}


Then the 1 rem is equal to 16px



On the other hand when you use em you need to be context aware, meaning that if the parent container of the text element got font-size: 12px the 1em becomes 12px



You can read more about it here: https://j.eremy.net/confused-about-rem-and-em/






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  • "1 rem is equal to 16px" - depends on the browser, most but not all.
    – Mark Schultheiss
    Nov 22 at 16:29










  • Read the link i shared. rem is read from html root tag, so as long if you define html to have font-size 16px then its 16 px. So i some obscure browser implements something else then override it with html fontsize 16
    – Nopzen
    Nov 22 at 16:33










  • I think this might be my problem, I have no font size included in the html tag.
    – HannahM
    Nov 22 at 16:35










  • Here is the actual specification if you want to have a definitive source w3.org/Style/CSS/specs.en.html
    – Mark Schultheiss
    Nov 22 at 16:36










  • This solved the problem - thank you. I set my font-size in the html (originally as pixels but this also resulted in accessibility errors) as 100%, then I set the rest of my fonts throughout the site in em. All looks great and passes the accessibility check. Thanks for your help.
    – HannahM
    Nov 23 at 11:47


















up vote
0
down vote













So em is not a size like px is. em refers to the current font-size set on an item,



so if



p {
font-size: 16px;
}


then when you add in the em to a certain piece like say you have



<p class="em-class">Hello World</p>
<style>
.em-class {
font-size: 2em;
}
</style>


then your font-size would be 32px on that class. It essentially works as a % of the current font-size






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    First of all let me say that EM is used locally and REM is used globally what do i mean with that?



    Rem uses the html tag font-size so if:



    html {
    font-size: 16px;
    }


    Then the 1 rem is equal to 16px



    On the other hand when you use em you need to be context aware, meaning that if the parent container of the text element got font-size: 12px the 1em becomes 12px



    You can read more about it here: https://j.eremy.net/confused-about-rem-and-em/






    share|improve this answer























    • "1 rem is equal to 16px" - depends on the browser, most but not all.
      – Mark Schultheiss
      Nov 22 at 16:29










    • Read the link i shared. rem is read from html root tag, so as long if you define html to have font-size 16px then its 16 px. So i some obscure browser implements something else then override it with html fontsize 16
      – Nopzen
      Nov 22 at 16:33










    • I think this might be my problem, I have no font size included in the html tag.
      – HannahM
      Nov 22 at 16:35










    • Here is the actual specification if you want to have a definitive source w3.org/Style/CSS/specs.en.html
      – Mark Schultheiss
      Nov 22 at 16:36










    • This solved the problem - thank you. I set my font-size in the html (originally as pixels but this also resulted in accessibility errors) as 100%, then I set the rest of my fonts throughout the site in em. All looks great and passes the accessibility check. Thanks for your help.
      – HannahM
      Nov 23 at 11:47















    up vote
    0
    down vote



    accepted










    First of all let me say that EM is used locally and REM is used globally what do i mean with that?



    Rem uses the html tag font-size so if:



    html {
    font-size: 16px;
    }


    Then the 1 rem is equal to 16px



    On the other hand when you use em you need to be context aware, meaning that if the parent container of the text element got font-size: 12px the 1em becomes 12px



    You can read more about it here: https://j.eremy.net/confused-about-rem-and-em/






    share|improve this answer























    • "1 rem is equal to 16px" - depends on the browser, most but not all.
      – Mark Schultheiss
      Nov 22 at 16:29










    • Read the link i shared. rem is read from html root tag, so as long if you define html to have font-size 16px then its 16 px. So i some obscure browser implements something else then override it with html fontsize 16
      – Nopzen
      Nov 22 at 16:33










    • I think this might be my problem, I have no font size included in the html tag.
      – HannahM
      Nov 22 at 16:35










    • Here is the actual specification if you want to have a definitive source w3.org/Style/CSS/specs.en.html
      – Mark Schultheiss
      Nov 22 at 16:36










    • This solved the problem - thank you. I set my font-size in the html (originally as pixels but this also resulted in accessibility errors) as 100%, then I set the rest of my fonts throughout the site in em. All looks great and passes the accessibility check. Thanks for your help.
      – HannahM
      Nov 23 at 11:47













    up vote
    0
    down vote



    accepted







    up vote
    0
    down vote



    accepted






    First of all let me say that EM is used locally and REM is used globally what do i mean with that?



    Rem uses the html tag font-size so if:



    html {
    font-size: 16px;
    }


    Then the 1 rem is equal to 16px



    On the other hand when you use em you need to be context aware, meaning that if the parent container of the text element got font-size: 12px the 1em becomes 12px



    You can read more about it here: https://j.eremy.net/confused-about-rem-and-em/






    share|improve this answer














    First of all let me say that EM is used locally and REM is used globally what do i mean with that?



    Rem uses the html tag font-size so if:



    html {
    font-size: 16px;
    }


    Then the 1 rem is equal to 16px



    On the other hand when you use em you need to be context aware, meaning that if the parent container of the text element got font-size: 12px the 1em becomes 12px



    You can read more about it here: https://j.eremy.net/confused-about-rem-and-em/







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    • "1 rem is equal to 16px" - depends on the browser, most but not all.
      – Mark Schultheiss
      Nov 22 at 16:29










    • Read the link i shared. rem is read from html root tag, so as long if you define html to have font-size 16px then its 16 px. So i some obscure browser implements something else then override it with html fontsize 16
      – Nopzen
      Nov 22 at 16:33










    • I think this might be my problem, I have no font size included in the html tag.
      – HannahM
      Nov 22 at 16:35










    • Here is the actual specification if you want to have a definitive source w3.org/Style/CSS/specs.en.html
      – Mark Schultheiss
      Nov 22 at 16:36










    • This solved the problem - thank you. I set my font-size in the html (originally as pixels but this also resulted in accessibility errors) as 100%, then I set the rest of my fonts throughout the site in em. All looks great and passes the accessibility check. Thanks for your help.
      – HannahM
      Nov 23 at 11:47


















    • "1 rem is equal to 16px" - depends on the browser, most but not all.
      – Mark Schultheiss
      Nov 22 at 16:29










    • Read the link i shared. rem is read from html root tag, so as long if you define html to have font-size 16px then its 16 px. So i some obscure browser implements something else then override it with html fontsize 16
      – Nopzen
      Nov 22 at 16:33










    • I think this might be my problem, I have no font size included in the html tag.
      – HannahM
      Nov 22 at 16:35










    • Here is the actual specification if you want to have a definitive source w3.org/Style/CSS/specs.en.html
      – Mark Schultheiss
      Nov 22 at 16:36










    • This solved the problem - thank you. I set my font-size in the html (originally as pixels but this also resulted in accessibility errors) as 100%, then I set the rest of my fonts throughout the site in em. All looks great and passes the accessibility check. Thanks for your help.
      – HannahM
      Nov 23 at 11:47
















    "1 rem is equal to 16px" - depends on the browser, most but not all.
    – Mark Schultheiss
    Nov 22 at 16:29




    "1 rem is equal to 16px" - depends on the browser, most but not all.
    – Mark Schultheiss
    Nov 22 at 16:29












    Read the link i shared. rem is read from html root tag, so as long if you define html to have font-size 16px then its 16 px. So i some obscure browser implements something else then override it with html fontsize 16
    – Nopzen
    Nov 22 at 16:33




    Read the link i shared. rem is read from html root tag, so as long if you define html to have font-size 16px then its 16 px. So i some obscure browser implements something else then override it with html fontsize 16
    – Nopzen
    Nov 22 at 16:33












    I think this might be my problem, I have no font size included in the html tag.
    – HannahM
    Nov 22 at 16:35




    I think this might be my problem, I have no font size included in the html tag.
    – HannahM
    Nov 22 at 16:35












    Here is the actual specification if you want to have a definitive source w3.org/Style/CSS/specs.en.html
    – Mark Schultheiss
    Nov 22 at 16:36




    Here is the actual specification if you want to have a definitive source w3.org/Style/CSS/specs.en.html
    – Mark Schultheiss
    Nov 22 at 16:36












    This solved the problem - thank you. I set my font-size in the html (originally as pixels but this also resulted in accessibility errors) as 100%, then I set the rest of my fonts throughout the site in em. All looks great and passes the accessibility check. Thanks for your help.
    – HannahM
    Nov 23 at 11:47




    This solved the problem - thank you. I set my font-size in the html (originally as pixels but this also resulted in accessibility errors) as 100%, then I set the rest of my fonts throughout the site in em. All looks great and passes the accessibility check. Thanks for your help.
    – HannahM
    Nov 23 at 11:47












    up vote
    0
    down vote













    So em is not a size like px is. em refers to the current font-size set on an item,



    so if



    p {
    font-size: 16px;
    }


    then when you add in the em to a certain piece like say you have



    <p class="em-class">Hello World</p>
    <style>
    .em-class {
    font-size: 2em;
    }
    </style>


    then your font-size would be 32px on that class. It essentially works as a % of the current font-size






    share|improve this answer

























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      down vote













      So em is not a size like px is. em refers to the current font-size set on an item,



      so if



      p {
      font-size: 16px;
      }


      then when you add in the em to a certain piece like say you have



      <p class="em-class">Hello World</p>
      <style>
      .em-class {
      font-size: 2em;
      }
      </style>


      then your font-size would be 32px on that class. It essentially works as a % of the current font-size






      share|improve this answer























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        up vote
        0
        down vote









        So em is not a size like px is. em refers to the current font-size set on an item,



        so if



        p {
        font-size: 16px;
        }


        then when you add in the em to a certain piece like say you have



        <p class="em-class">Hello World</p>
        <style>
        .em-class {
        font-size: 2em;
        }
        </style>


        then your font-size would be 32px on that class. It essentially works as a % of the current font-size






        share|improve this answer












        So em is not a size like px is. em refers to the current font-size set on an item,



        so if



        p {
        font-size: 16px;
        }


        then when you add in the em to a certain piece like say you have



        <p class="em-class">Hello World</p>
        <style>
        .em-class {
        font-size: 2em;
        }
        </style>


        then your font-size would be 32px on that class. It essentially works as a % of the current font-size







        share|improve this answer












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