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My friend is completing her PhD comprehensive test and is going to start research.
Her supervisor is emphasising the importance of self-learning. He is saying that "I will provide the necessary resources, books, etc., I am not going to teach you anything, it is your responsibility to complete prerequisites. There are several resources over the internet to accomplish all your required tasks".
My doubt is that why can't the supervisor teach at least the prerequisites and the subject of research to some extent?
Anyway, the literature survey and the publishing will be done by the student only. In this context, my doubt is to know whether the supervisor is bound to teach or not?
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My friend is completing her PhD comprehensive test and is going to start research.
Her supervisor is emphasising the importance of self-learning. He is saying that "I will provide the necessary resources, books, etc., I am not going to teach you anything, it is your responsibility to complete prerequisites. There are several resources over the internet to accomplish all your required tasks".
My doubt is that why can't the supervisor teach at least the prerequisites and the subject of research to some extent?
Anyway, the literature survey and the publishing will be done by the student only. In this context, my doubt is to know whether the supervisor is bound to teach or not?
supervision mentoring
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You can have doubts, as you are probably not party to the full discourse between supervisor and student...
– Solar Mike
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What does "teach for saving time" mean?
– Azor Ahai
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@AzorAhai I assumed it meant "Save the student time learning certain topics by teaching it to them instead"
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My friend is completing her PhD comprehensive test and is going to start research.
Her supervisor is emphasising the importance of self-learning. He is saying that "I will provide the necessary resources, books, etc., I am not going to teach you anything, it is your responsibility to complete prerequisites. There are several resources over the internet to accomplish all your required tasks".
My doubt is that why can't the supervisor teach at least the prerequisites and the subject of research to some extent?
Anyway, the literature survey and the publishing will be done by the student only. In this context, my doubt is to know whether the supervisor is bound to teach or not?
supervision mentoring
edited 2 hours ago
ff524♦
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asked 11 hours ago
hanugm
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My friend is completing her PhD comprehensive test and is going to start research.
Her supervisor is emphasising the importance of self-learning. He is saying that "I will provide the necessary resources, books, etc., I am not going to teach you anything, it is your responsibility to complete prerequisites. There are several resources over the internet to accomplish all your required tasks".
My doubt is that why can't the supervisor teach at least the prerequisites and the subject of research to some extent?
Anyway, the literature survey and the publishing will be done by the student only. In this context, my doubt is to know whether the supervisor is bound to teach or not?
supervision mentoring
supervision mentoring
edited 2 hours ago
ff524♦
94.8k42389421
asked 11 hours ago
hanugm
92321118
edited 2 hours ago
ff524♦
94.8k42389421
asked 11 hours ago
hanugm
92321118
edited 2 hours ago
ff524♦
94.8k42389421
edited 2 hours ago
ff524♦
94.8k42389421
edited 2 hours ago
ff524♦
94.8k42389421
94.8k42389421
asked 11 hours ago
hanugm
92321118
asked 11 hours ago
hanugm
92321118
asked 11 hours ago
hanugm
92321118
92321118
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You can have doubts, as you are probably not party to the full discourse between supervisor and student...
– Solar Mike
11 hours ago
1
What does "teach for saving time" mean?
– Azor Ahai
2 hours ago
@AzorAhai I assumed it meant "Save the student time learning certain topics by teaching it to them instead"
– Wipqozn
2 hours ago
add a comment |
2
You can have doubts, as you are probably not party to the full discourse between supervisor and student...
– Solar Mike
11 hours ago
1
What does "teach for saving time" mean?
– Azor Ahai
2 hours ago
@AzorAhai I assumed it meant "Save the student time learning certain topics by teaching it to them instead"
– Wipqozn
2 hours ago
2
2
You can have doubts, as you are probably not party to the full discourse between supervisor and student...
– Solar Mike
11 hours ago
You can have doubts, as you are probably not party to the full discourse between supervisor and student...
– Solar Mike
11 hours ago
1
1
What does "teach for saving time" mean?
– Azor Ahai
2 hours ago
What does "teach for saving time" mean?
– Azor Ahai
2 hours ago
@AzorAhai I assumed it meant "Save the student time learning certain topics by teaching it to them instead"
– Wipqozn
2 hours ago
@AzorAhai I assumed it meant "Save the student time learning certain topics by teaching it to them instead"
– Wipqozn
2 hours ago
add a comment |
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Supervisors train; they don't teach. (Albeit the distinction between terms is rather subtle.)
why can't the supervisor teach at least the prerequisites and the subject of research to some extent?
A PhD is like an apprenticeship, rather than a taught degree (such as an undergraduate degree). Hence, supervisors are expected to train, not teach.
the literature survey and the publishing will be done by the student only.
Actually, the supervisor will guide the student in both activities and will (likely) be a co-author of any publications.
is...the supervisor [likely] to teach or not?
No: The supervisor has said they won't teach nor is it their job to do so.
The supervisor is quoted as saying, "I am not going to teach...it is your responsibility to complete prerequisites," which might reference (especially in the US) taught courses that PhD students are required to take. Given such context, the supervisor may merely be explaining that it isn't their responsibility to provide any help for taught courses.
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user2768
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I mean likely, as per recommemded norms...
– hanugm
8 hours ago
@hanugm I edited to address
– user2768
7 hours ago
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Actually, the supervisor is teaching you, or trying to, at least. No, she is not required to teach you as you want to be taught, telling you explicitly what is needed. She has another method in mind that she expects to be very effective if you are willing to go along with it.
When you finish your degree you won't have any "teacher" available to you anymore except yourself. She is teaching you that now and teaching you to be effective in those circumstances. A lot of recent graduates learn that lesson too late.
Too many professors depend too much on lecturing, confusing that with teaching. Teaching is providing the circumstances for learning and for that the student needs to work, not just watch and listen.
She is doing you a favor, not being lazy. Accept that and you can have a glorious future.
answered 7 hours ago
Buffy
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Even in a class, simply lecturing is (for me, anyway) an inefficient use of time. Far better to learn the material from the text, and use class time to address problems. This is even more true in a one-on-one situation. The supervisor should direct you to what you need to learn, and be there to help with problems.
– jamesqf
2 hours ago
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2 Answers
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
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up vote
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Supervisors train; they don't teach. (Albeit the distinction between terms is rather subtle.)
why can't the supervisor teach at least the prerequisites and the subject of research to some extent?
A PhD is like an apprenticeship, rather than a taught degree (such as an undergraduate degree). Hence, supervisors are expected to train, not teach.
the literature survey and the publishing will be done by the student only.
Actually, the supervisor will guide the student in both activities and will (likely) be a co-author of any publications.
is...the supervisor [likely] to teach or not?
No: The supervisor has said they won't teach nor is it their job to do so.
The supervisor is quoted as saying, "I am not going to teach...it is your responsibility to complete prerequisites," which might reference (especially in the US) taught courses that PhD students are required to take. Given such context, the supervisor may merely be explaining that it isn't their responsibility to provide any help for taught courses.
answered 11 hours ago
user2768
10.5k22746
I mean likely, as per recommemded norms...
– hanugm
8 hours ago
@hanugm I edited to address
– user2768
7 hours ago
add a comment |
up vote
22
down vote
Supervisors train; they don't teach. (Albeit the distinction between terms is rather subtle.)
why can't the supervisor teach at least the prerequisites and the subject of research to some extent?
A PhD is like an apprenticeship, rather than a taught degree (such as an undergraduate degree). Hence, supervisors are expected to train, not teach.
the literature survey and the publishing will be done by the student only.
Actually, the supervisor will guide the student in both activities and will (likely) be a co-author of any publications.
is...the supervisor [likely] to teach or not?
No: The supervisor has said they won't teach nor is it their job to do so.
The supervisor is quoted as saying, "I am not going to teach...it is your responsibility to complete prerequisites," which might reference (especially in the US) taught courses that PhD students are required to take. Given such context, the supervisor may merely be explaining that it isn't their responsibility to provide any help for taught courses.
answered 11 hours ago
user2768
10.5k22746
I mean likely, as per recommemded norms...
– hanugm
8 hours ago
@hanugm I edited to address
– user2768
7 hours ago
add a comment |
up vote
22
down vote
up vote
22
down vote
Supervisors train; they don't teach. (Albeit the distinction between terms is rather subtle.)
why can't the supervisor teach at least the prerequisites and the subject of research to some extent?
A PhD is like an apprenticeship, rather than a taught degree (such as an undergraduate degree). Hence, supervisors are expected to train, not teach.
the literature survey and the publishing will be done by the student only.
Actually, the supervisor will guide the student in both activities and will (likely) be a co-author of any publications.
is...the supervisor [likely] to teach or not?
No: The supervisor has said they won't teach nor is it their job to do so.
The supervisor is quoted as saying, "I am not going to teach...it is your responsibility to complete prerequisites," which might reference (especially in the US) taught courses that PhD students are required to take. Given such context, the supervisor may merely be explaining that it isn't their responsibility to provide any help for taught courses.
answered 11 hours ago
user2768
10.5k22746
Supervisors train; they don't teach. (Albeit the distinction between terms is rather subtle.)
why can't the supervisor teach at least the prerequisites and the subject of research to some extent?
A PhD is like an apprenticeship, rather than a taught degree (such as an undergraduate degree). Hence, supervisors are expected to train, not teach.
the literature survey and the publishing will be done by the student only.
Actually, the supervisor will guide the student in both activities and will (likely) be a co-author of any publications.
is...the supervisor [likely] to teach or not?
No: The supervisor has said they won't teach nor is it their job to do so.
The supervisor is quoted as saying, "I am not going to teach...it is your responsibility to complete prerequisites," which might reference (especially in the US) taught courses that PhD students are required to take. Given such context, the supervisor may merely be explaining that it isn't their responsibility to provide any help for taught courses.
answered 11 hours ago
user2768
10.5k22746
edited 4 hours ago
answered 11 hours ago
user2768
10.5k22746
answered 11 hours ago
user2768
10.5k22746
answered 11 hours ago
user2768
10.5k22746
10.5k22746
I mean likely, as per recommemded norms...
– hanugm
8 hours ago
@hanugm I edited to address
– user2768
7 hours ago
add a comment |
I mean likely, as per recommemded norms...
– hanugm
8 hours ago
@hanugm I edited to address
– user2768
7 hours ago
I mean likely, as per recommemded norms...
– hanugm
8 hours ago
I mean likely, as per recommemded norms...
– hanugm
8 hours ago
@hanugm I edited to address
– user2768
7 hours ago
@hanugm I edited to address
– user2768
7 hours ago
add a comment |
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13
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Actually, the supervisor is teaching you, or trying to, at least. No, she is not required to teach you as you want to be taught, telling you explicitly what is needed. She has another method in mind that she expects to be very effective if you are willing to go along with it.
When you finish your degree you won't have any "teacher" available to you anymore except yourself. She is teaching you that now and teaching you to be effective in those circumstances. A lot of recent graduates learn that lesson too late.
Too many professors depend too much on lecturing, confusing that with teaching. Teaching is providing the circumstances for learning and for that the student needs to work, not just watch and listen.
She is doing you a favor, not being lazy. Accept that and you can have a glorious future.
answered 7 hours ago
Buffy
33.1k6101172
Even in a class, simply lecturing is (for me, anyway) an inefficient use of time. Far better to learn the material from the text, and use class time to address problems. This is even more true in a one-on-one situation. The supervisor should direct you to what you need to learn, and be there to help with problems.
– jamesqf
2 hours ago
add a comment |
up vote
13
down vote
Actually, the supervisor is teaching you, or trying to, at least. No, she is not required to teach you as you want to be taught, telling you explicitly what is needed. She has another method in mind that she expects to be very effective if you are willing to go along with it.
When you finish your degree you won't have any "teacher" available to you anymore except yourself. She is teaching you that now and teaching you to be effective in those circumstances. A lot of recent graduates learn that lesson too late.
Too many professors depend too much on lecturing, confusing that with teaching. Teaching is providing the circumstances for learning and for that the student needs to work, not just watch and listen.
She is doing you a favor, not being lazy. Accept that and you can have a glorious future.
answered 7 hours ago
Buffy
33.1k6101172
Even in a class, simply lecturing is (for me, anyway) an inefficient use of time. Far better to learn the material from the text, and use class time to address problems. This is even more true in a one-on-one situation. The supervisor should direct you to what you need to learn, and be there to help with problems.
– jamesqf
2 hours ago
add a comment |
up vote
13
down vote
up vote
13
down vote
Actually, the supervisor is teaching you, or trying to, at least. No, she is not required to teach you as you want to be taught, telling you explicitly what is needed. She has another method in mind that she expects to be very effective if you are willing to go along with it.
When you finish your degree you won't have any "teacher" available to you anymore except yourself. She is teaching you that now and teaching you to be effective in those circumstances. A lot of recent graduates learn that lesson too late.
Too many professors depend too much on lecturing, confusing that with teaching. Teaching is providing the circumstances for learning and for that the student needs to work, not just watch and listen.
She is doing you a favor, not being lazy. Accept that and you can have a glorious future.
answered 7 hours ago
Buffy
33.1k6101172
Actually, the supervisor is teaching you, or trying to, at least. No, she is not required to teach you as you want to be taught, telling you explicitly what is needed. She has another method in mind that she expects to be very effective if you are willing to go along with it.
When you finish your degree you won't have any "teacher" available to you anymore except yourself. She is teaching you that now and teaching you to be effective in those circumstances. A lot of recent graduates learn that lesson too late.
Too many professors depend too much on lecturing, confusing that with teaching. Teaching is providing the circumstances for learning and for that the student needs to work, not just watch and listen.
She is doing you a favor, not being lazy. Accept that and you can have a glorious future.
answered 7 hours ago
Buffy
33.1k6101172
answered 7 hours ago
Buffy
33.1k6101172
answered 7 hours ago
Buffy
33.1k6101172
answered 7 hours ago
Buffy
33.1k6101172
33.1k6101172
Even in a class, simply lecturing is (for me, anyway) an inefficient use of time. Far better to learn the material from the text, and use class time to address problems. This is even more true in a one-on-one situation. The supervisor should direct you to what you need to learn, and be there to help with problems.
– jamesqf
2 hours ago
add a comment |
Even in a class, simply lecturing is (for me, anyway) an inefficient use of time. Far better to learn the material from the text, and use class time to address problems. This is even more true in a one-on-one situation. The supervisor should direct you to what you need to learn, and be there to help with problems.
– jamesqf
2 hours ago
Even in a class, simply lecturing is (for me, anyway) an inefficient use of time. Far better to learn the material from the text, and use class time to address problems. This is even more true in a one-on-one situation. The supervisor should direct you to what you need to learn, and be there to help with problems.
– jamesqf
2 hours ago
Even in a class, simply lecturing is (for me, anyway) an inefficient use of time. Far better to learn the material from the text, and use class time to address problems. This is even more true in a one-on-one situation. The supervisor should direct you to what you need to learn, and be there to help with problems.
– jamesqf
2 hours ago
add a comment |
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You can have doubts, as you are probably not party to the full discourse between supervisor and student...
– Solar Mike
11 hours ago
1
What does "teach for saving time" mean?
– Azor Ahai
2 hours ago
@AzorAhai I assumed it meant "Save the student time learning certain topics by teaching it to them instead"
– Wipqozn
2 hours ago