Apache Storm:KafkaSpout has a lot of failed tuples due to timeout












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In my processtime-window wordcount topology, the input rate is 2000 tuple/s. The window size of my count_bolt is 3s and 1s lag. It can be seen from the UI that there are a large number of failed tuples. By looking at the logs, the reason for the tuple failure is timeout. I also set the TOPOLOGY_MAX_SPOUT_PENDING to 10000,topology.message.timeout.secs to 60. And according to the two parameters of Capacity and Execute latency in the figure, the parallelism of the bolt should be sufficient.



Q: How should I adjust the parameters? For example, TOPOLOGY_MAX_SPOUT_PENDINGtopology.message.timeout.secs or something else.



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    In my processtime-window wordcount topology, the input rate is 2000 tuple/s. The window size of my count_bolt is 3s and 1s lag. It can be seen from the UI that there are a large number of failed tuples. By looking at the logs, the reason for the tuple failure is timeout. I also set the TOPOLOGY_MAX_SPOUT_PENDING to 10000,topology.message.timeout.secs to 60. And according to the two parameters of Capacity and Execute latency in the figure, the parallelism of the bolt should be sufficient.



    Q: How should I adjust the parameters? For example, TOPOLOGY_MAX_SPOUT_PENDINGtopology.message.timeout.secs or something else.



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      In my processtime-window wordcount topology, the input rate is 2000 tuple/s. The window size of my count_bolt is 3s and 1s lag. It can be seen from the UI that there are a large number of failed tuples. By looking at the logs, the reason for the tuple failure is timeout. I also set the TOPOLOGY_MAX_SPOUT_PENDING to 10000,topology.message.timeout.secs to 60. And according to the two parameters of Capacity and Execute latency in the figure, the parallelism of the bolt should be sufficient.



      Q: How should I adjust the parameters? For example, TOPOLOGY_MAX_SPOUT_PENDINGtopology.message.timeout.secs or something else.



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      In my processtime-window wordcount topology, the input rate is 2000 tuple/s. The window size of my count_bolt is 3s and 1s lag. It can be seen from the UI that there are a large number of failed tuples. By looking at the logs, the reason for the tuple failure is timeout. I also set the TOPOLOGY_MAX_SPOUT_PENDING to 10000,topology.message.timeout.secs to 60. And according to the two parameters of Capacity and Execute latency in the figure, the parallelism of the bolt should be sufficient.



      Q: How should I adjust the parameters? For example, TOPOLOGY_MAX_SPOUT_PENDINGtopology.message.timeout.secs or something else.



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          I would start by lowering topology.max.spout.pending. Once you have a topology that isn't uselessly processing already timed out tuples, it should be easier to tell where your bottleneck is.



          Keep in mind that the capacity/execute latency only takes into account how much time is spent in execute for each tuple.



          As I recall the Kafka bolt doesn't ack tuples before it leaves execute, but instead delivers the tuple to the producer and acks the tuple via a callback from the producer, which can happen after execute returns. As a result, you won't see the actual time spent processing tuples in a Kafka bolt reflected in the capacity/execute latency. You can see the actual time between the tuple arriving at execute and the tuple being acked in the process latency, which is pretty high.



          Your count_bolt process latency is also high, so take a look at whether that one is also buffering up tuples before acking them.






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          • Thanks. My count_bolt uses processtime-window,so one tuple buffered for 3 seconds. So should I adjust TOPOLOGY_MAX_SPOUT_PENDING from small to large? Do I need to increase topology.message.timeout.secs?
            – Cheng Jiang
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          • I don't know what processtime-window is. No, I would lower max spout pending. I doubt increasing the timeout would help you.
            – Stig Rohde Døssing
            Nov 24 '18 at 8:18











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          I would start by lowering topology.max.spout.pending. Once you have a topology that isn't uselessly processing already timed out tuples, it should be easier to tell where your bottleneck is.



          Keep in mind that the capacity/execute latency only takes into account how much time is spent in execute for each tuple.



          As I recall the Kafka bolt doesn't ack tuples before it leaves execute, but instead delivers the tuple to the producer and acks the tuple via a callback from the producer, which can happen after execute returns. As a result, you won't see the actual time spent processing tuples in a Kafka bolt reflected in the capacity/execute latency. You can see the actual time between the tuple arriving at execute and the tuple being acked in the process latency, which is pretty high.



          Your count_bolt process latency is also high, so take a look at whether that one is also buffering up tuples before acking them.






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          • Thanks. My count_bolt uses processtime-window,so one tuple buffered for 3 seconds. So should I adjust TOPOLOGY_MAX_SPOUT_PENDING from small to large? Do I need to increase topology.message.timeout.secs?
            – Cheng Jiang
            Nov 24 '18 at 7:51










          • I don't know what processtime-window is. No, I would lower max spout pending. I doubt increasing the timeout would help you.
            – Stig Rohde Døssing
            Nov 24 '18 at 8:18
















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          I would start by lowering topology.max.spout.pending. Once you have a topology that isn't uselessly processing already timed out tuples, it should be easier to tell where your bottleneck is.



          Keep in mind that the capacity/execute latency only takes into account how much time is spent in execute for each tuple.



          As I recall the Kafka bolt doesn't ack tuples before it leaves execute, but instead delivers the tuple to the producer and acks the tuple via a callback from the producer, which can happen after execute returns. As a result, you won't see the actual time spent processing tuples in a Kafka bolt reflected in the capacity/execute latency. You can see the actual time between the tuple arriving at execute and the tuple being acked in the process latency, which is pretty high.



          Your count_bolt process latency is also high, so take a look at whether that one is also buffering up tuples before acking them.






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          • Thanks. My count_bolt uses processtime-window,so one tuple buffered for 3 seconds. So should I adjust TOPOLOGY_MAX_SPOUT_PENDING from small to large? Do I need to increase topology.message.timeout.secs?
            – Cheng Jiang
            Nov 24 '18 at 7:51










          • I don't know what processtime-window is. No, I would lower max spout pending. I doubt increasing the timeout would help you.
            – Stig Rohde Døssing
            Nov 24 '18 at 8:18














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          I would start by lowering topology.max.spout.pending. Once you have a topology that isn't uselessly processing already timed out tuples, it should be easier to tell where your bottleneck is.



          Keep in mind that the capacity/execute latency only takes into account how much time is spent in execute for each tuple.



          As I recall the Kafka bolt doesn't ack tuples before it leaves execute, but instead delivers the tuple to the producer and acks the tuple via a callback from the producer, which can happen after execute returns. As a result, you won't see the actual time spent processing tuples in a Kafka bolt reflected in the capacity/execute latency. You can see the actual time between the tuple arriving at execute and the tuple being acked in the process latency, which is pretty high.



          Your count_bolt process latency is also high, so take a look at whether that one is also buffering up tuples before acking them.






          share|improve this answer












          I would start by lowering topology.max.spout.pending. Once you have a topology that isn't uselessly processing already timed out tuples, it should be easier to tell where your bottleneck is.



          Keep in mind that the capacity/execute latency only takes into account how much time is spent in execute for each tuple.



          As I recall the Kafka bolt doesn't ack tuples before it leaves execute, but instead delivers the tuple to the producer and acks the tuple via a callback from the producer, which can happen after execute returns. As a result, you won't see the actual time spent processing tuples in a Kafka bolt reflected in the capacity/execute latency. You can see the actual time between the tuple arriving at execute and the tuple being acked in the process latency, which is pretty high.



          Your count_bolt process latency is also high, so take a look at whether that one is also buffering up tuples before acking them.







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          • Thanks. My count_bolt uses processtime-window,so one tuple buffered for 3 seconds. So should I adjust TOPOLOGY_MAX_SPOUT_PENDING from small to large? Do I need to increase topology.message.timeout.secs?
            – Cheng Jiang
            Nov 24 '18 at 7:51










          • I don't know what processtime-window is. No, I would lower max spout pending. I doubt increasing the timeout would help you.
            – Stig Rohde Døssing
            Nov 24 '18 at 8:18


















          • Thanks. My count_bolt uses processtime-window,so one tuple buffered for 3 seconds. So should I adjust TOPOLOGY_MAX_SPOUT_PENDING from small to large? Do I need to increase topology.message.timeout.secs?
            – Cheng Jiang
            Nov 24 '18 at 7:51










          • I don't know what processtime-window is. No, I would lower max spout pending. I doubt increasing the timeout would help you.
            – Stig Rohde Døssing
            Nov 24 '18 at 8:18
















          Thanks. My count_bolt uses processtime-window,so one tuple buffered for 3 seconds. So should I adjust TOPOLOGY_MAX_SPOUT_PENDING from small to large? Do I need to increase topology.message.timeout.secs?
          – Cheng Jiang
          Nov 24 '18 at 7:51




          Thanks. My count_bolt uses processtime-window,so one tuple buffered for 3 seconds. So should I adjust TOPOLOGY_MAX_SPOUT_PENDING from small to large? Do I need to increase topology.message.timeout.secs?
          – Cheng Jiang
          Nov 24 '18 at 7:51












          I don't know what processtime-window is. No, I would lower max spout pending. I doubt increasing the timeout would help you.
          – Stig Rohde Døssing
          Nov 24 '18 at 8:18




          I don't know what processtime-window is. No, I would lower max spout pending. I doubt increasing the timeout would help you.
          – Stig Rohde Døssing
          Nov 24 '18 at 8:18


















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