How can a planet have a deadly eclipse-like “spotlight”?
A solar eclipse occurs when the moon passes between the Earth and the sun. The result is a giant shadow that sweeps across the Earth's surface.
This world has the opposite phenomenon. Instead of a giant shadow, this world has a giant deadly "spotlight" sweep across its surface.
Must achieve these effects:
- Must produce enough thermal power to kill humans (who are not native) and some (or all) non-native animals efficiently enough that full exposure to the light is (near?) certain doom.
- Should have easily-observed warning signs allowing vulnerable creatures roughly one minute to find shelter. None of the lifeforms on the planet have developed its meteorology well enough to predict them except by visual/thermal observation.
- Must be natural/meteorological/astronomical in nature. (Nothing like a giant orbiting laser).
- Most or all plants, fungi, etc (non-animals) should be able to survive.
These would be a plus:
- The starlight should normally be white, but the spotlight should be red (best case), blue (next best) or orange (third best). Otherwise, just brighter.
- Should occur a few times per week in at least one area on the planet.
- Should not be precisely periodic. If two occurrences are 36 hours apart, the next one might be 34 hours after, or 50 hours after. There may be a complex pattern, but it shouldn't be plausible to figure out over the course of a couple of weeks.
A "spotlight" that covers part of the planet is preferred, but if being larger than the planet is easier, that may be acceptable.
Here are a few ideas I was toying with, but I'm not sure how realistic they are:
- There are multiple small (or distant) stars in the system, each white in color, and multiple red moons surrounding the planet. The stars are clustered around the center of the system so there is still a day/night cycle (is this possible?) with a roughly Earthlike luminosity. The red moons reflect light on the surface more or less constantly but the intensity is relatively small compared to the normal light from the stars... Until enough moons reflect light from enough stars to the same spot on the planet's surface! I don't know if they can really reflect enough light for this to work though.
- Because of chaotic atmospheric conditions, atmospheric refraction causes the (single) star's rays to focus on a small area. I don't know if the color objective can be accomplished this way though.
- There is very thick cloud cover, but sometimes a hole opens that allows the full light of the star through onto part of the surface. Also not sure if the color objective can be accomplished.
astronomy weather
|
show 4 more comments
A solar eclipse occurs when the moon passes between the Earth and the sun. The result is a giant shadow that sweeps across the Earth's surface.
This world has the opposite phenomenon. Instead of a giant shadow, this world has a giant deadly "spotlight" sweep across its surface.
Must achieve these effects:
- Must produce enough thermal power to kill humans (who are not native) and some (or all) non-native animals efficiently enough that full exposure to the light is (near?) certain doom.
- Should have easily-observed warning signs allowing vulnerable creatures roughly one minute to find shelter. None of the lifeforms on the planet have developed its meteorology well enough to predict them except by visual/thermal observation.
- Must be natural/meteorological/astronomical in nature. (Nothing like a giant orbiting laser).
- Most or all plants, fungi, etc (non-animals) should be able to survive.
These would be a plus:
- The starlight should normally be white, but the spotlight should be red (best case), blue (next best) or orange (third best). Otherwise, just brighter.
- Should occur a few times per week in at least one area on the planet.
- Should not be precisely periodic. If two occurrences are 36 hours apart, the next one might be 34 hours after, or 50 hours after. There may be a complex pattern, but it shouldn't be plausible to figure out over the course of a couple of weeks.
A "spotlight" that covers part of the planet is preferred, but if being larger than the planet is easier, that may be acceptable.
Here are a few ideas I was toying with, but I'm not sure how realistic they are:
- There are multiple small (or distant) stars in the system, each white in color, and multiple red moons surrounding the planet. The stars are clustered around the center of the system so there is still a day/night cycle (is this possible?) with a roughly Earthlike luminosity. The red moons reflect light on the surface more or less constantly but the intensity is relatively small compared to the normal light from the stars... Until enough moons reflect light from enough stars to the same spot on the planet's surface! I don't know if they can really reflect enough light for this to work though.
- Because of chaotic atmospheric conditions, atmospheric refraction causes the (single) star's rays to focus on a small area. I don't know if the color objective can be accomplished this way though.
- There is very thick cloud cover, but sometimes a hole opens that allows the full light of the star through onto part of the surface. Also not sure if the color objective can be accomplished.
astronomy weather
Natural is strongly preferred.
– Devsman
3 hours ago
How about the moon's gravity acting like a lens, focusing its receiving light and hitting the planet at its focus point? The question would be how to justify that a moon focuses that much light... maybe its made out of some reflective element? Isn't something similar occurring during solar eclipses, but with much less effect?
– Battle
3 hours ago
1
Conservation of etendue. Can't have a moon that is brighter than its parent star using just ref*ction. The bigger issue is producing the spotlight effect though.
– John Dvorak
2 hours ago
3
Scratch that. Devising anything that kills animals reliably while leaving plants untouched is pretty much impossible. For one thing, you'd have to explain why the animals don't just fancy a coat of lichen from day zero of their evolution.
– John Dvorak
2 hours ago
1
@JohnDvorak Point taken. I'll update so it's not necessary for native animals to be killed.
– Devsman
2 hours ago
|
show 4 more comments
A solar eclipse occurs when the moon passes between the Earth and the sun. The result is a giant shadow that sweeps across the Earth's surface.
This world has the opposite phenomenon. Instead of a giant shadow, this world has a giant deadly "spotlight" sweep across its surface.
Must achieve these effects:
- Must produce enough thermal power to kill humans (who are not native) and some (or all) non-native animals efficiently enough that full exposure to the light is (near?) certain doom.
- Should have easily-observed warning signs allowing vulnerable creatures roughly one minute to find shelter. None of the lifeforms on the planet have developed its meteorology well enough to predict them except by visual/thermal observation.
- Must be natural/meteorological/astronomical in nature. (Nothing like a giant orbiting laser).
- Most or all plants, fungi, etc (non-animals) should be able to survive.
These would be a plus:
- The starlight should normally be white, but the spotlight should be red (best case), blue (next best) or orange (third best). Otherwise, just brighter.
- Should occur a few times per week in at least one area on the planet.
- Should not be precisely periodic. If two occurrences are 36 hours apart, the next one might be 34 hours after, or 50 hours after. There may be a complex pattern, but it shouldn't be plausible to figure out over the course of a couple of weeks.
A "spotlight" that covers part of the planet is preferred, but if being larger than the planet is easier, that may be acceptable.
Here are a few ideas I was toying with, but I'm not sure how realistic they are:
- There are multiple small (or distant) stars in the system, each white in color, and multiple red moons surrounding the planet. The stars are clustered around the center of the system so there is still a day/night cycle (is this possible?) with a roughly Earthlike luminosity. The red moons reflect light on the surface more or less constantly but the intensity is relatively small compared to the normal light from the stars... Until enough moons reflect light from enough stars to the same spot on the planet's surface! I don't know if they can really reflect enough light for this to work though.
- Because of chaotic atmospheric conditions, atmospheric refraction causes the (single) star's rays to focus on a small area. I don't know if the color objective can be accomplished this way though.
- There is very thick cloud cover, but sometimes a hole opens that allows the full light of the star through onto part of the surface. Also not sure if the color objective can be accomplished.
astronomy weather
A solar eclipse occurs when the moon passes between the Earth and the sun. The result is a giant shadow that sweeps across the Earth's surface.
This world has the opposite phenomenon. Instead of a giant shadow, this world has a giant deadly "spotlight" sweep across its surface.
Must achieve these effects:
- Must produce enough thermal power to kill humans (who are not native) and some (or all) non-native animals efficiently enough that full exposure to the light is (near?) certain doom.
- Should have easily-observed warning signs allowing vulnerable creatures roughly one minute to find shelter. None of the lifeforms on the planet have developed its meteorology well enough to predict them except by visual/thermal observation.
- Must be natural/meteorological/astronomical in nature. (Nothing like a giant orbiting laser).
- Most or all plants, fungi, etc (non-animals) should be able to survive.
These would be a plus:
- The starlight should normally be white, but the spotlight should be red (best case), blue (next best) or orange (third best). Otherwise, just brighter.
- Should occur a few times per week in at least one area on the planet.
- Should not be precisely periodic. If two occurrences are 36 hours apart, the next one might be 34 hours after, or 50 hours after. There may be a complex pattern, but it shouldn't be plausible to figure out over the course of a couple of weeks.
A "spotlight" that covers part of the planet is preferred, but if being larger than the planet is easier, that may be acceptable.
Here are a few ideas I was toying with, but I'm not sure how realistic they are:
- There are multiple small (or distant) stars in the system, each white in color, and multiple red moons surrounding the planet. The stars are clustered around the center of the system so there is still a day/night cycle (is this possible?) with a roughly Earthlike luminosity. The red moons reflect light on the surface more or less constantly but the intensity is relatively small compared to the normal light from the stars... Until enough moons reflect light from enough stars to the same spot on the planet's surface! I don't know if they can really reflect enough light for this to work though.
- Because of chaotic atmospheric conditions, atmospheric refraction causes the (single) star's rays to focus on a small area. I don't know if the color objective can be accomplished this way though.
- There is very thick cloud cover, but sometimes a hole opens that allows the full light of the star through onto part of the surface. Also not sure if the color objective can be accomplished.
astronomy weather
astronomy weather
edited 1 hour ago
Devsman
asked 3 hours ago
DevsmanDevsman
2,6751623
2,6751623
Natural is strongly preferred.
– Devsman
3 hours ago
How about the moon's gravity acting like a lens, focusing its receiving light and hitting the planet at its focus point? The question would be how to justify that a moon focuses that much light... maybe its made out of some reflective element? Isn't something similar occurring during solar eclipses, but with much less effect?
– Battle
3 hours ago
1
Conservation of etendue. Can't have a moon that is brighter than its parent star using just ref*ction. The bigger issue is producing the spotlight effect though.
– John Dvorak
2 hours ago
3
Scratch that. Devising anything that kills animals reliably while leaving plants untouched is pretty much impossible. For one thing, you'd have to explain why the animals don't just fancy a coat of lichen from day zero of their evolution.
– John Dvorak
2 hours ago
1
@JohnDvorak Point taken. I'll update so it's not necessary for native animals to be killed.
– Devsman
2 hours ago
|
show 4 more comments
Natural is strongly preferred.
– Devsman
3 hours ago
How about the moon's gravity acting like a lens, focusing its receiving light and hitting the planet at its focus point? The question would be how to justify that a moon focuses that much light... maybe its made out of some reflective element? Isn't something similar occurring during solar eclipses, but with much less effect?
– Battle
3 hours ago
1
Conservation of etendue. Can't have a moon that is brighter than its parent star using just ref*ction. The bigger issue is producing the spotlight effect though.
– John Dvorak
2 hours ago
3
Scratch that. Devising anything that kills animals reliably while leaving plants untouched is pretty much impossible. For one thing, you'd have to explain why the animals don't just fancy a coat of lichen from day zero of their evolution.
– John Dvorak
2 hours ago
1
@JohnDvorak Point taken. I'll update so it's not necessary for native animals to be killed.
– Devsman
2 hours ago
Natural is strongly preferred.
– Devsman
3 hours ago
Natural is strongly preferred.
– Devsman
3 hours ago
How about the moon's gravity acting like a lens, focusing its receiving light and hitting the planet at its focus point? The question would be how to justify that a moon focuses that much light... maybe its made out of some reflective element? Isn't something similar occurring during solar eclipses, but with much less effect?
– Battle
3 hours ago
How about the moon's gravity acting like a lens, focusing its receiving light and hitting the planet at its focus point? The question would be how to justify that a moon focuses that much light... maybe its made out of some reflective element? Isn't something similar occurring during solar eclipses, but with much less effect?
– Battle
3 hours ago
1
1
Conservation of etendue. Can't have a moon that is brighter than its parent star using just ref*ction. The bigger issue is producing the spotlight effect though.
– John Dvorak
2 hours ago
Conservation of etendue. Can't have a moon that is brighter than its parent star using just ref*ction. The bigger issue is producing the spotlight effect though.
– John Dvorak
2 hours ago
3
3
Scratch that. Devising anything that kills animals reliably while leaving plants untouched is pretty much impossible. For one thing, you'd have to explain why the animals don't just fancy a coat of lichen from day zero of their evolution.
– John Dvorak
2 hours ago
Scratch that. Devising anything that kills animals reliably while leaving plants untouched is pretty much impossible. For one thing, you'd have to explain why the animals don't just fancy a coat of lichen from day zero of their evolution.
– John Dvorak
2 hours ago
1
1
@JohnDvorak Point taken. I'll update so it's not necessary for native animals to be killed.
– Devsman
2 hours ago
@JohnDvorak Point taken. I'll update so it's not necessary for native animals to be killed.
– Devsman
2 hours ago
|
show 4 more comments
5 Answers
5
active
oldest
votes
A wobbling pulsar will do the trick.
Pulsars emit a lot of energy in narrow beams that come from their poles. The slowest ones fire every few seconds; make its tilt wobble so that it is not pointing at the planet all the time. In addition, wobbling causes the pulsar to shoot at different points of the planet's orbit through time. The planet is hit when the pulsar's beam path just happens to be passing by the planet.
If the pulsar is firing every few milliseconds (as is normal for them), it will seem like a continuous beam for observers.
Finally, to make the beam small enough that it doesn't cover the entire planet and more, justify it with lensing from nearby nebulas, the planet's atmosphere, and maybe a black hole between the pulsar and the planet.
Gah, I can't believe I didn't think of this. You got my +1.
– Gryphon
1 hour ago
+1, even easier if it CAN cover the whole planet, which I think might work for the story.
– Devsman
1 hour ago
Pulsars are stars that have previously exploded as supernovae: explaining life on a planet after a supernova is either a problem or interesting, depending on how you look at it.
– Phil Frost
36 mins ago
@PhilFrost the nova may have happened milliona of years ago in the other side of the galaxy. Our own sun goes full circle every 200-something million years, who knows what we had nearby when dinos walked around?
– Renan
29 mins ago
@Renan Meaning the pulsar isn't the center of the system but just making a pass nearby? Yeah, that could work. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnard%27s_Star#/media/…
– Phil Frost
24 mins ago
add a comment |
Not entirely sure about the feasibility of this, but it's an idea I had when I read your question. I wonder if something like this would be possible through Gravitational Lensing. Essentially, this is when black holes (with enormous gravitational pulls) bend light around them, causing telescopic effects. I've linked the Wikipedia page for gravitational lensing as well as an article from Space.com below which you could read up on to give you a better idea of how it all works.
My idea though is that what if, just outside the edge of what can be seen from the planet, there's a system of black holes which pull light in such a manner that it's focussed into a thin beam, which cuts across the galaxy and occasionally burns its way across your planet? This would explain the huge intensity of the light as well as allowing a 'natural' explanation for how it's focussed so tightly.
Having it at such a distance would also mean that the appearance of the beam of light can't be predicted, as the people on the planet don't have the technology to either see that far into space, or understand what they're seeing. Besides, at such a distance that the black holes don't mess with the solar system's structure, the light would take very long to reach the planet. So when the beam lines up, its effects are only seen on the planet later (how much later depends on the distance. Centuries, or even millennia maybe).
As for the colour of the beam, we can assume the source of light is moving away from the black holes and the planet, which would cause Redshift. This would make a white light source look red to the observer. Frequency wise, we could assume that other objects in space (planets, dust clouds etc) often block the light from hitting our planet, but occasionally it slips through the gaps (like when you see the sun for a couple of seconds through a clearing in the clouds before it gets blocked again).
For non-animals to survive, perhaps they've evolved to feed on the huge light intensity and maybe even need it every few days to live? Or (depending on the history of the 'humans' on your planet) maybe everything else is evolved to survive the intense light to an extent, while humans aren't. Perhaps this is similar to how we have to wear clothes - we can't handle Earth's natural climates without external help. Maybe those caught outside of their radiation booths are killed rapidly, while those who stay inside are fine?
There's a lot of ways you can go with this idea and I think the rest is up to you. I've included a few links at the bottom you might be interested in.
Further Reading:
Gravitational lensing:
https://www.space.com/39999-how-gravitational-lenses-work.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_lens
Red and blue shift:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshift
https://www.space.com/25732-redshift-blueshift.html
+1 for redshift
– Devsman
1 hour ago
3
Sadly, the conservation of etendue makes this system of black hole lenses unworkable. If you're concentrating the light to a smaller output area, then it must also be distributed across a larger angle as it leaves the lens. XKCD's Randall Munroe did an excellent post on this topic: what-if.xkcd.com/145
– Dubukay
1 hour ago
1
@Dubukay wow, never heard of that conservation law before. Thanks for bringing it to my attention! Love learning stuff on here haha
– user43712
1 hour ago
1
However, if what we're going for is suspension-of-disbelief, make it a mini black hole in an inner orbit of the same system. Each time that BH passes between your unfortunate planet and the sun, lensing burns a scar right across the planet. If there's enough sunlight to start a fire with a magnifying glass, there's enough to do it through gravitational lensing (note that most of the planet will be nearly dark due to the lensing effect).
– JBH
56 mins ago
1
Also, keep in mind that the mini black hole could also be one half of a binary star, in which case the orbits are preserved and the effect is the same, if a bit more complicated to calculate.
– JBH
47 mins ago
|
show 5 more comments
The remains of an ancient Dyson swarm
Not quite natural, but mostly non-technological. If a prior civilization had constructed a Dyson swarm around the system's star, the light coming from the star might be heavily occluded. Assume the sun is >10X hotter than ours (or the planet is much closer in), and there are enough collector bodies in the swarm to block some 90% of the sun's light at any time. If they are close enough in toward the sun, there will be enough diffraction around each collector that they wouldn't cast visible shadows, and could only be observed by direct observation of the sun, which requires a minimum level of technology to avoid blinding yourself.
The spotlight effect would occur when resonances in the orbital periods of the different bodies in the swarm cause gaps in coverage. The creating civilization could have arranged this purposefully to provide sunlight to further flung planets/stations, or be coincidental. The apparent brightness would grow gradually as more pieces of the swarm leave the "hole" in the field, so the warning sign would just be a rapid but gradual increase in brightness.
The spotlight color would probably be the same as the normal sunlight. However, if the star is very hot, heading toward blue spectrum, the swarm might occlude the blue/UV portion of the spectrum more and let redder light through (imagine if each collector is a giant solar array panel with no backing, e.g. microns of silicon). At the very least they would radiate heat in the infrared. If natives to the planet are used to these conditions, that might be their normal "white" light.
add a comment |
A transparent sphere works as a burning glass so a moon of (impossible) clear material should do the trick by concentrating the rays from the sun if it orbited at the right distance.
Trouble is that absorbtion would eat most of the light if the diameter was more than a kilometer. A thin ice-shell might work, but good luck with explaining the origin (and stability!!) of that ;-)
New contributor
Welcome to Worldbuilding, Mads Horn! If you have a moment, please take the tour and visit the help center to learn more about the site. You may also find Worldbuilding Meta and The Sandbox useful. Here is a meta post on the culture and style of Worldbuilding.SE, just to help you understand our scope and methods, and how we do things here. Have fun!
– Gryphon
1 hour ago
A thin layer of ice may let enough light through, but it won't have any significant lensing effect, not to mention it wouldn't survive without collapsing spectacularly for more than a few days after being conjured at best, let alone form naturally in the first place.
– John Dvorak
1 hour ago
"If it orbited at the right distance": the focal distance of a ball lens is $f = nD / 4(n - 1)$, with n being the index of refraction of the material and D the diameter of the sphere. For glass, this works out at about 0.8 D, so that orbit must be very close to the surface. Not to mention that the focus lies on the optical axis, so that it wont fall on the surface unless the moon is in conjuction with the Sun. And ball lenses are horrible lenses, they won't focus the light in a nice focal spot.
– AlexP
1 hour ago
Won't work, for reasons more than just absorption. See Would a Moon made of water pose a threat to Earth during eclipses?
– Phil Frost
55 mins ago
add a comment |
Any sort of passive light-focusing (with lenses, mirrors, etc) scheme is unlikely do more than to make slightly warm spots. The fundamental reason has to do with the conservation of etendue, and you can read more about it at Would a Moon made of water pose a threat to Earth during eclipses?
As such, if you want the spotlight to come from a moon, the moon would either need some kind of power source (which starts to sound like "giant lasers") or would need some natural mechanism to eject jets of energy or matter. As far as I know, all kinds of astrophysical jets would require something much more massive than a moon, so this seems like a dead-end.
I think the most feasible explanation is a planet which is ordinarily protected by its atmosphere and/or magnetosphere, but on occasion the weather aligns such that the protection is lost in an area. We to experience this to a small extent on earth: both the sun and earth have magnetic fields that vary over time. One trouble is if the earth's magnetosphere were periodically penetrated by the solar wind, the atmosphere would be stripped away. Though it could take a very long time -- perhaps it is interesting for your story to have a "dying planet".
add a comment |
Your Answer
StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
});
});
}, "mathjax-editing");
StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "579"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);
StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});
function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: false,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: null,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});
}
});
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fworldbuilding.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f135840%2fhow-can-a-planet-have-a-deadly-eclipse-like-spotlight%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
5 Answers
5
active
oldest
votes
5 Answers
5
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
A wobbling pulsar will do the trick.
Pulsars emit a lot of energy in narrow beams that come from their poles. The slowest ones fire every few seconds; make its tilt wobble so that it is not pointing at the planet all the time. In addition, wobbling causes the pulsar to shoot at different points of the planet's orbit through time. The planet is hit when the pulsar's beam path just happens to be passing by the planet.
If the pulsar is firing every few milliseconds (as is normal for them), it will seem like a continuous beam for observers.
Finally, to make the beam small enough that it doesn't cover the entire planet and more, justify it with lensing from nearby nebulas, the planet's atmosphere, and maybe a black hole between the pulsar and the planet.
Gah, I can't believe I didn't think of this. You got my +1.
– Gryphon
1 hour ago
+1, even easier if it CAN cover the whole planet, which I think might work for the story.
– Devsman
1 hour ago
Pulsars are stars that have previously exploded as supernovae: explaining life on a planet after a supernova is either a problem or interesting, depending on how you look at it.
– Phil Frost
36 mins ago
@PhilFrost the nova may have happened milliona of years ago in the other side of the galaxy. Our own sun goes full circle every 200-something million years, who knows what we had nearby when dinos walked around?
– Renan
29 mins ago
@Renan Meaning the pulsar isn't the center of the system but just making a pass nearby? Yeah, that could work. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnard%27s_Star#/media/…
– Phil Frost
24 mins ago
add a comment |
A wobbling pulsar will do the trick.
Pulsars emit a lot of energy in narrow beams that come from their poles. The slowest ones fire every few seconds; make its tilt wobble so that it is not pointing at the planet all the time. In addition, wobbling causes the pulsar to shoot at different points of the planet's orbit through time. The planet is hit when the pulsar's beam path just happens to be passing by the planet.
If the pulsar is firing every few milliseconds (as is normal for them), it will seem like a continuous beam for observers.
Finally, to make the beam small enough that it doesn't cover the entire planet and more, justify it with lensing from nearby nebulas, the planet's atmosphere, and maybe a black hole between the pulsar and the planet.
Gah, I can't believe I didn't think of this. You got my +1.
– Gryphon
1 hour ago
+1, even easier if it CAN cover the whole planet, which I think might work for the story.
– Devsman
1 hour ago
Pulsars are stars that have previously exploded as supernovae: explaining life on a planet after a supernova is either a problem or interesting, depending on how you look at it.
– Phil Frost
36 mins ago
@PhilFrost the nova may have happened milliona of years ago in the other side of the galaxy. Our own sun goes full circle every 200-something million years, who knows what we had nearby when dinos walked around?
– Renan
29 mins ago
@Renan Meaning the pulsar isn't the center of the system but just making a pass nearby? Yeah, that could work. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnard%27s_Star#/media/…
– Phil Frost
24 mins ago
add a comment |
A wobbling pulsar will do the trick.
Pulsars emit a lot of energy in narrow beams that come from their poles. The slowest ones fire every few seconds; make its tilt wobble so that it is not pointing at the planet all the time. In addition, wobbling causes the pulsar to shoot at different points of the planet's orbit through time. The planet is hit when the pulsar's beam path just happens to be passing by the planet.
If the pulsar is firing every few milliseconds (as is normal for them), it will seem like a continuous beam for observers.
Finally, to make the beam small enough that it doesn't cover the entire planet and more, justify it with lensing from nearby nebulas, the planet's atmosphere, and maybe a black hole between the pulsar and the planet.
A wobbling pulsar will do the trick.
Pulsars emit a lot of energy in narrow beams that come from their poles. The slowest ones fire every few seconds; make its tilt wobble so that it is not pointing at the planet all the time. In addition, wobbling causes the pulsar to shoot at different points of the planet's orbit through time. The planet is hit when the pulsar's beam path just happens to be passing by the planet.
If the pulsar is firing every few milliseconds (as is normal for them), it will seem like a continuous beam for observers.
Finally, to make the beam small enough that it doesn't cover the entire planet and more, justify it with lensing from nearby nebulas, the planet's atmosphere, and maybe a black hole between the pulsar and the planet.
edited 1 hour ago
Gryphon
3,05822354
3,05822354
answered 2 hours ago
RenanRenan
43.9k1199223
43.9k1199223
Gah, I can't believe I didn't think of this. You got my +1.
– Gryphon
1 hour ago
+1, even easier if it CAN cover the whole planet, which I think might work for the story.
– Devsman
1 hour ago
Pulsars are stars that have previously exploded as supernovae: explaining life on a planet after a supernova is either a problem or interesting, depending on how you look at it.
– Phil Frost
36 mins ago
@PhilFrost the nova may have happened milliona of years ago in the other side of the galaxy. Our own sun goes full circle every 200-something million years, who knows what we had nearby when dinos walked around?
– Renan
29 mins ago
@Renan Meaning the pulsar isn't the center of the system but just making a pass nearby? Yeah, that could work. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnard%27s_Star#/media/…
– Phil Frost
24 mins ago
add a comment |
Gah, I can't believe I didn't think of this. You got my +1.
– Gryphon
1 hour ago
+1, even easier if it CAN cover the whole planet, which I think might work for the story.
– Devsman
1 hour ago
Pulsars are stars that have previously exploded as supernovae: explaining life on a planet after a supernova is either a problem or interesting, depending on how you look at it.
– Phil Frost
36 mins ago
@PhilFrost the nova may have happened milliona of years ago in the other side of the galaxy. Our own sun goes full circle every 200-something million years, who knows what we had nearby when dinos walked around?
– Renan
29 mins ago
@Renan Meaning the pulsar isn't the center of the system but just making a pass nearby? Yeah, that could work. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnard%27s_Star#/media/…
– Phil Frost
24 mins ago
Gah, I can't believe I didn't think of this. You got my +1.
– Gryphon
1 hour ago
Gah, I can't believe I didn't think of this. You got my +1.
– Gryphon
1 hour ago
+1, even easier if it CAN cover the whole planet, which I think might work for the story.
– Devsman
1 hour ago
+1, even easier if it CAN cover the whole planet, which I think might work for the story.
– Devsman
1 hour ago
Pulsars are stars that have previously exploded as supernovae: explaining life on a planet after a supernova is either a problem or interesting, depending on how you look at it.
– Phil Frost
36 mins ago
Pulsars are stars that have previously exploded as supernovae: explaining life on a planet after a supernova is either a problem or interesting, depending on how you look at it.
– Phil Frost
36 mins ago
@PhilFrost the nova may have happened milliona of years ago in the other side of the galaxy. Our own sun goes full circle every 200-something million years, who knows what we had nearby when dinos walked around?
– Renan
29 mins ago
@PhilFrost the nova may have happened milliona of years ago in the other side of the galaxy. Our own sun goes full circle every 200-something million years, who knows what we had nearby when dinos walked around?
– Renan
29 mins ago
@Renan Meaning the pulsar isn't the center of the system but just making a pass nearby? Yeah, that could work. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnard%27s_Star#/media/…
– Phil Frost
24 mins ago
@Renan Meaning the pulsar isn't the center of the system but just making a pass nearby? Yeah, that could work. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnard%27s_Star#/media/…
– Phil Frost
24 mins ago
add a comment |
Not entirely sure about the feasibility of this, but it's an idea I had when I read your question. I wonder if something like this would be possible through Gravitational Lensing. Essentially, this is when black holes (with enormous gravitational pulls) bend light around them, causing telescopic effects. I've linked the Wikipedia page for gravitational lensing as well as an article from Space.com below which you could read up on to give you a better idea of how it all works.
My idea though is that what if, just outside the edge of what can be seen from the planet, there's a system of black holes which pull light in such a manner that it's focussed into a thin beam, which cuts across the galaxy and occasionally burns its way across your planet? This would explain the huge intensity of the light as well as allowing a 'natural' explanation for how it's focussed so tightly.
Having it at such a distance would also mean that the appearance of the beam of light can't be predicted, as the people on the planet don't have the technology to either see that far into space, or understand what they're seeing. Besides, at such a distance that the black holes don't mess with the solar system's structure, the light would take very long to reach the planet. So when the beam lines up, its effects are only seen on the planet later (how much later depends on the distance. Centuries, or even millennia maybe).
As for the colour of the beam, we can assume the source of light is moving away from the black holes and the planet, which would cause Redshift. This would make a white light source look red to the observer. Frequency wise, we could assume that other objects in space (planets, dust clouds etc) often block the light from hitting our planet, but occasionally it slips through the gaps (like when you see the sun for a couple of seconds through a clearing in the clouds before it gets blocked again).
For non-animals to survive, perhaps they've evolved to feed on the huge light intensity and maybe even need it every few days to live? Or (depending on the history of the 'humans' on your planet) maybe everything else is evolved to survive the intense light to an extent, while humans aren't. Perhaps this is similar to how we have to wear clothes - we can't handle Earth's natural climates without external help. Maybe those caught outside of their radiation booths are killed rapidly, while those who stay inside are fine?
There's a lot of ways you can go with this idea and I think the rest is up to you. I've included a few links at the bottom you might be interested in.
Further Reading:
Gravitational lensing:
https://www.space.com/39999-how-gravitational-lenses-work.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_lens
Red and blue shift:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshift
https://www.space.com/25732-redshift-blueshift.html
+1 for redshift
– Devsman
1 hour ago
3
Sadly, the conservation of etendue makes this system of black hole lenses unworkable. If you're concentrating the light to a smaller output area, then it must also be distributed across a larger angle as it leaves the lens. XKCD's Randall Munroe did an excellent post on this topic: what-if.xkcd.com/145
– Dubukay
1 hour ago
1
@Dubukay wow, never heard of that conservation law before. Thanks for bringing it to my attention! Love learning stuff on here haha
– user43712
1 hour ago
1
However, if what we're going for is suspension-of-disbelief, make it a mini black hole in an inner orbit of the same system. Each time that BH passes between your unfortunate planet and the sun, lensing burns a scar right across the planet. If there's enough sunlight to start a fire with a magnifying glass, there's enough to do it through gravitational lensing (note that most of the planet will be nearly dark due to the lensing effect).
– JBH
56 mins ago
1
Also, keep in mind that the mini black hole could also be one half of a binary star, in which case the orbits are preserved and the effect is the same, if a bit more complicated to calculate.
– JBH
47 mins ago
|
show 5 more comments
Not entirely sure about the feasibility of this, but it's an idea I had when I read your question. I wonder if something like this would be possible through Gravitational Lensing. Essentially, this is when black holes (with enormous gravitational pulls) bend light around them, causing telescopic effects. I've linked the Wikipedia page for gravitational lensing as well as an article from Space.com below which you could read up on to give you a better idea of how it all works.
My idea though is that what if, just outside the edge of what can be seen from the planet, there's a system of black holes which pull light in such a manner that it's focussed into a thin beam, which cuts across the galaxy and occasionally burns its way across your planet? This would explain the huge intensity of the light as well as allowing a 'natural' explanation for how it's focussed so tightly.
Having it at such a distance would also mean that the appearance of the beam of light can't be predicted, as the people on the planet don't have the technology to either see that far into space, or understand what they're seeing. Besides, at such a distance that the black holes don't mess with the solar system's structure, the light would take very long to reach the planet. So when the beam lines up, its effects are only seen on the planet later (how much later depends on the distance. Centuries, or even millennia maybe).
As for the colour of the beam, we can assume the source of light is moving away from the black holes and the planet, which would cause Redshift. This would make a white light source look red to the observer. Frequency wise, we could assume that other objects in space (planets, dust clouds etc) often block the light from hitting our planet, but occasionally it slips through the gaps (like when you see the sun for a couple of seconds through a clearing in the clouds before it gets blocked again).
For non-animals to survive, perhaps they've evolved to feed on the huge light intensity and maybe even need it every few days to live? Or (depending on the history of the 'humans' on your planet) maybe everything else is evolved to survive the intense light to an extent, while humans aren't. Perhaps this is similar to how we have to wear clothes - we can't handle Earth's natural climates without external help. Maybe those caught outside of their radiation booths are killed rapidly, while those who stay inside are fine?
There's a lot of ways you can go with this idea and I think the rest is up to you. I've included a few links at the bottom you might be interested in.
Further Reading:
Gravitational lensing:
https://www.space.com/39999-how-gravitational-lenses-work.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_lens
Red and blue shift:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshift
https://www.space.com/25732-redshift-blueshift.html
+1 for redshift
– Devsman
1 hour ago
3
Sadly, the conservation of etendue makes this system of black hole lenses unworkable. If you're concentrating the light to a smaller output area, then it must also be distributed across a larger angle as it leaves the lens. XKCD's Randall Munroe did an excellent post on this topic: what-if.xkcd.com/145
– Dubukay
1 hour ago
1
@Dubukay wow, never heard of that conservation law before. Thanks for bringing it to my attention! Love learning stuff on here haha
– user43712
1 hour ago
1
However, if what we're going for is suspension-of-disbelief, make it a mini black hole in an inner orbit of the same system. Each time that BH passes between your unfortunate planet and the sun, lensing burns a scar right across the planet. If there's enough sunlight to start a fire with a magnifying glass, there's enough to do it through gravitational lensing (note that most of the planet will be nearly dark due to the lensing effect).
– JBH
56 mins ago
1
Also, keep in mind that the mini black hole could also be one half of a binary star, in which case the orbits are preserved and the effect is the same, if a bit more complicated to calculate.
– JBH
47 mins ago
|
show 5 more comments
Not entirely sure about the feasibility of this, but it's an idea I had when I read your question. I wonder if something like this would be possible through Gravitational Lensing. Essentially, this is when black holes (with enormous gravitational pulls) bend light around them, causing telescopic effects. I've linked the Wikipedia page for gravitational lensing as well as an article from Space.com below which you could read up on to give you a better idea of how it all works.
My idea though is that what if, just outside the edge of what can be seen from the planet, there's a system of black holes which pull light in such a manner that it's focussed into a thin beam, which cuts across the galaxy and occasionally burns its way across your planet? This would explain the huge intensity of the light as well as allowing a 'natural' explanation for how it's focussed so tightly.
Having it at such a distance would also mean that the appearance of the beam of light can't be predicted, as the people on the planet don't have the technology to either see that far into space, or understand what they're seeing. Besides, at such a distance that the black holes don't mess with the solar system's structure, the light would take very long to reach the planet. So when the beam lines up, its effects are only seen on the planet later (how much later depends on the distance. Centuries, or even millennia maybe).
As for the colour of the beam, we can assume the source of light is moving away from the black holes and the planet, which would cause Redshift. This would make a white light source look red to the observer. Frequency wise, we could assume that other objects in space (planets, dust clouds etc) often block the light from hitting our planet, but occasionally it slips through the gaps (like when you see the sun for a couple of seconds through a clearing in the clouds before it gets blocked again).
For non-animals to survive, perhaps they've evolved to feed on the huge light intensity and maybe even need it every few days to live? Or (depending on the history of the 'humans' on your planet) maybe everything else is evolved to survive the intense light to an extent, while humans aren't. Perhaps this is similar to how we have to wear clothes - we can't handle Earth's natural climates without external help. Maybe those caught outside of their radiation booths are killed rapidly, while those who stay inside are fine?
There's a lot of ways you can go with this idea and I think the rest is up to you. I've included a few links at the bottom you might be interested in.
Further Reading:
Gravitational lensing:
https://www.space.com/39999-how-gravitational-lenses-work.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_lens
Red and blue shift:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshift
https://www.space.com/25732-redshift-blueshift.html
Not entirely sure about the feasibility of this, but it's an idea I had when I read your question. I wonder if something like this would be possible through Gravitational Lensing. Essentially, this is when black holes (with enormous gravitational pulls) bend light around them, causing telescopic effects. I've linked the Wikipedia page for gravitational lensing as well as an article from Space.com below which you could read up on to give you a better idea of how it all works.
My idea though is that what if, just outside the edge of what can be seen from the planet, there's a system of black holes which pull light in such a manner that it's focussed into a thin beam, which cuts across the galaxy and occasionally burns its way across your planet? This would explain the huge intensity of the light as well as allowing a 'natural' explanation for how it's focussed so tightly.
Having it at such a distance would also mean that the appearance of the beam of light can't be predicted, as the people on the planet don't have the technology to either see that far into space, or understand what they're seeing. Besides, at such a distance that the black holes don't mess with the solar system's structure, the light would take very long to reach the planet. So when the beam lines up, its effects are only seen on the planet later (how much later depends on the distance. Centuries, or even millennia maybe).
As for the colour of the beam, we can assume the source of light is moving away from the black holes and the planet, which would cause Redshift. This would make a white light source look red to the observer. Frequency wise, we could assume that other objects in space (planets, dust clouds etc) often block the light from hitting our planet, but occasionally it slips through the gaps (like when you see the sun for a couple of seconds through a clearing in the clouds before it gets blocked again).
For non-animals to survive, perhaps they've evolved to feed on the huge light intensity and maybe even need it every few days to live? Or (depending on the history of the 'humans' on your planet) maybe everything else is evolved to survive the intense light to an extent, while humans aren't. Perhaps this is similar to how we have to wear clothes - we can't handle Earth's natural climates without external help. Maybe those caught outside of their radiation booths are killed rapidly, while those who stay inside are fine?
There's a lot of ways you can go with this idea and I think the rest is up to you. I've included a few links at the bottom you might be interested in.
Further Reading:
Gravitational lensing:
https://www.space.com/39999-how-gravitational-lenses-work.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_lens
Red and blue shift:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshift
https://www.space.com/25732-redshift-blueshift.html
answered 2 hours ago
user43712user43712
812
812
+1 for redshift
– Devsman
1 hour ago
3
Sadly, the conservation of etendue makes this system of black hole lenses unworkable. If you're concentrating the light to a smaller output area, then it must also be distributed across a larger angle as it leaves the lens. XKCD's Randall Munroe did an excellent post on this topic: what-if.xkcd.com/145
– Dubukay
1 hour ago
1
@Dubukay wow, never heard of that conservation law before. Thanks for bringing it to my attention! Love learning stuff on here haha
– user43712
1 hour ago
1
However, if what we're going for is suspension-of-disbelief, make it a mini black hole in an inner orbit of the same system. Each time that BH passes between your unfortunate planet and the sun, lensing burns a scar right across the planet. If there's enough sunlight to start a fire with a magnifying glass, there's enough to do it through gravitational lensing (note that most of the planet will be nearly dark due to the lensing effect).
– JBH
56 mins ago
1
Also, keep in mind that the mini black hole could also be one half of a binary star, in which case the orbits are preserved and the effect is the same, if a bit more complicated to calculate.
– JBH
47 mins ago
|
show 5 more comments
+1 for redshift
– Devsman
1 hour ago
3
Sadly, the conservation of etendue makes this system of black hole lenses unworkable. If you're concentrating the light to a smaller output area, then it must also be distributed across a larger angle as it leaves the lens. XKCD's Randall Munroe did an excellent post on this topic: what-if.xkcd.com/145
– Dubukay
1 hour ago
1
@Dubukay wow, never heard of that conservation law before. Thanks for bringing it to my attention! Love learning stuff on here haha
– user43712
1 hour ago
1
However, if what we're going for is suspension-of-disbelief, make it a mini black hole in an inner orbit of the same system. Each time that BH passes between your unfortunate planet and the sun, lensing burns a scar right across the planet. If there's enough sunlight to start a fire with a magnifying glass, there's enough to do it through gravitational lensing (note that most of the planet will be nearly dark due to the lensing effect).
– JBH
56 mins ago
1
Also, keep in mind that the mini black hole could also be one half of a binary star, in which case the orbits are preserved and the effect is the same, if a bit more complicated to calculate.
– JBH
47 mins ago
+1 for redshift
– Devsman
1 hour ago
+1 for redshift
– Devsman
1 hour ago
3
3
Sadly, the conservation of etendue makes this system of black hole lenses unworkable. If you're concentrating the light to a smaller output area, then it must also be distributed across a larger angle as it leaves the lens. XKCD's Randall Munroe did an excellent post on this topic: what-if.xkcd.com/145
– Dubukay
1 hour ago
Sadly, the conservation of etendue makes this system of black hole lenses unworkable. If you're concentrating the light to a smaller output area, then it must also be distributed across a larger angle as it leaves the lens. XKCD's Randall Munroe did an excellent post on this topic: what-if.xkcd.com/145
– Dubukay
1 hour ago
1
1
@Dubukay wow, never heard of that conservation law before. Thanks for bringing it to my attention! Love learning stuff on here haha
– user43712
1 hour ago
@Dubukay wow, never heard of that conservation law before. Thanks for bringing it to my attention! Love learning stuff on here haha
– user43712
1 hour ago
1
1
However, if what we're going for is suspension-of-disbelief, make it a mini black hole in an inner orbit of the same system. Each time that BH passes between your unfortunate planet and the sun, lensing burns a scar right across the planet. If there's enough sunlight to start a fire with a magnifying glass, there's enough to do it through gravitational lensing (note that most of the planet will be nearly dark due to the lensing effect).
– JBH
56 mins ago
However, if what we're going for is suspension-of-disbelief, make it a mini black hole in an inner orbit of the same system. Each time that BH passes between your unfortunate planet and the sun, lensing burns a scar right across the planet. If there's enough sunlight to start a fire with a magnifying glass, there's enough to do it through gravitational lensing (note that most of the planet will be nearly dark due to the lensing effect).
– JBH
56 mins ago
1
1
Also, keep in mind that the mini black hole could also be one half of a binary star, in which case the orbits are preserved and the effect is the same, if a bit more complicated to calculate.
– JBH
47 mins ago
Also, keep in mind that the mini black hole could also be one half of a binary star, in which case the orbits are preserved and the effect is the same, if a bit more complicated to calculate.
– JBH
47 mins ago
|
show 5 more comments
The remains of an ancient Dyson swarm
Not quite natural, but mostly non-technological. If a prior civilization had constructed a Dyson swarm around the system's star, the light coming from the star might be heavily occluded. Assume the sun is >10X hotter than ours (or the planet is much closer in), and there are enough collector bodies in the swarm to block some 90% of the sun's light at any time. If they are close enough in toward the sun, there will be enough diffraction around each collector that they wouldn't cast visible shadows, and could only be observed by direct observation of the sun, which requires a minimum level of technology to avoid blinding yourself.
The spotlight effect would occur when resonances in the orbital periods of the different bodies in the swarm cause gaps in coverage. The creating civilization could have arranged this purposefully to provide sunlight to further flung planets/stations, or be coincidental. The apparent brightness would grow gradually as more pieces of the swarm leave the "hole" in the field, so the warning sign would just be a rapid but gradual increase in brightness.
The spotlight color would probably be the same as the normal sunlight. However, if the star is very hot, heading toward blue spectrum, the swarm might occlude the blue/UV portion of the spectrum more and let redder light through (imagine if each collector is a giant solar array panel with no backing, e.g. microns of silicon). At the very least they would radiate heat in the infrared. If natives to the planet are used to these conditions, that might be their normal "white" light.
add a comment |
The remains of an ancient Dyson swarm
Not quite natural, but mostly non-technological. If a prior civilization had constructed a Dyson swarm around the system's star, the light coming from the star might be heavily occluded. Assume the sun is >10X hotter than ours (or the planet is much closer in), and there are enough collector bodies in the swarm to block some 90% of the sun's light at any time. If they are close enough in toward the sun, there will be enough diffraction around each collector that they wouldn't cast visible shadows, and could only be observed by direct observation of the sun, which requires a minimum level of technology to avoid blinding yourself.
The spotlight effect would occur when resonances in the orbital periods of the different bodies in the swarm cause gaps in coverage. The creating civilization could have arranged this purposefully to provide sunlight to further flung planets/stations, or be coincidental. The apparent brightness would grow gradually as more pieces of the swarm leave the "hole" in the field, so the warning sign would just be a rapid but gradual increase in brightness.
The spotlight color would probably be the same as the normal sunlight. However, if the star is very hot, heading toward blue spectrum, the swarm might occlude the blue/UV portion of the spectrum more and let redder light through (imagine if each collector is a giant solar array panel with no backing, e.g. microns of silicon). At the very least they would radiate heat in the infrared. If natives to the planet are used to these conditions, that might be their normal "white" light.
add a comment |
The remains of an ancient Dyson swarm
Not quite natural, but mostly non-technological. If a prior civilization had constructed a Dyson swarm around the system's star, the light coming from the star might be heavily occluded. Assume the sun is >10X hotter than ours (or the planet is much closer in), and there are enough collector bodies in the swarm to block some 90% of the sun's light at any time. If they are close enough in toward the sun, there will be enough diffraction around each collector that they wouldn't cast visible shadows, and could only be observed by direct observation of the sun, which requires a minimum level of technology to avoid blinding yourself.
The spotlight effect would occur when resonances in the orbital periods of the different bodies in the swarm cause gaps in coverage. The creating civilization could have arranged this purposefully to provide sunlight to further flung planets/stations, or be coincidental. The apparent brightness would grow gradually as more pieces of the swarm leave the "hole" in the field, so the warning sign would just be a rapid but gradual increase in brightness.
The spotlight color would probably be the same as the normal sunlight. However, if the star is very hot, heading toward blue spectrum, the swarm might occlude the blue/UV portion of the spectrum more and let redder light through (imagine if each collector is a giant solar array panel with no backing, e.g. microns of silicon). At the very least they would radiate heat in the infrared. If natives to the planet are used to these conditions, that might be their normal "white" light.
The remains of an ancient Dyson swarm
Not quite natural, but mostly non-technological. If a prior civilization had constructed a Dyson swarm around the system's star, the light coming from the star might be heavily occluded. Assume the sun is >10X hotter than ours (or the planet is much closer in), and there are enough collector bodies in the swarm to block some 90% of the sun's light at any time. If they are close enough in toward the sun, there will be enough diffraction around each collector that they wouldn't cast visible shadows, and could only be observed by direct observation of the sun, which requires a minimum level of technology to avoid blinding yourself.
The spotlight effect would occur when resonances in the orbital periods of the different bodies in the swarm cause gaps in coverage. The creating civilization could have arranged this purposefully to provide sunlight to further flung planets/stations, or be coincidental. The apparent brightness would grow gradually as more pieces of the swarm leave the "hole" in the field, so the warning sign would just be a rapid but gradual increase in brightness.
The spotlight color would probably be the same as the normal sunlight. However, if the star is very hot, heading toward blue spectrum, the swarm might occlude the blue/UV portion of the spectrum more and let redder light through (imagine if each collector is a giant solar array panel with no backing, e.g. microns of silicon). At the very least they would radiate heat in the infrared. If natives to the planet are used to these conditions, that might be their normal "white" light.
answered 36 mins ago
thegreatemuthegreatemu
95029
95029
add a comment |
add a comment |
A transparent sphere works as a burning glass so a moon of (impossible) clear material should do the trick by concentrating the rays from the sun if it orbited at the right distance.
Trouble is that absorbtion would eat most of the light if the diameter was more than a kilometer. A thin ice-shell might work, but good luck with explaining the origin (and stability!!) of that ;-)
New contributor
Welcome to Worldbuilding, Mads Horn! If you have a moment, please take the tour and visit the help center to learn more about the site. You may also find Worldbuilding Meta and The Sandbox useful. Here is a meta post on the culture and style of Worldbuilding.SE, just to help you understand our scope and methods, and how we do things here. Have fun!
– Gryphon
1 hour ago
A thin layer of ice may let enough light through, but it won't have any significant lensing effect, not to mention it wouldn't survive without collapsing spectacularly for more than a few days after being conjured at best, let alone form naturally in the first place.
– John Dvorak
1 hour ago
"If it orbited at the right distance": the focal distance of a ball lens is $f = nD / 4(n - 1)$, with n being the index of refraction of the material and D the diameter of the sphere. For glass, this works out at about 0.8 D, so that orbit must be very close to the surface. Not to mention that the focus lies on the optical axis, so that it wont fall on the surface unless the moon is in conjuction with the Sun. And ball lenses are horrible lenses, they won't focus the light in a nice focal spot.
– AlexP
1 hour ago
Won't work, for reasons more than just absorption. See Would a Moon made of water pose a threat to Earth during eclipses?
– Phil Frost
55 mins ago
add a comment |
A transparent sphere works as a burning glass so a moon of (impossible) clear material should do the trick by concentrating the rays from the sun if it orbited at the right distance.
Trouble is that absorbtion would eat most of the light if the diameter was more than a kilometer. A thin ice-shell might work, but good luck with explaining the origin (and stability!!) of that ;-)
New contributor
Welcome to Worldbuilding, Mads Horn! If you have a moment, please take the tour and visit the help center to learn more about the site. You may also find Worldbuilding Meta and The Sandbox useful. Here is a meta post on the culture and style of Worldbuilding.SE, just to help you understand our scope and methods, and how we do things here. Have fun!
– Gryphon
1 hour ago
A thin layer of ice may let enough light through, but it won't have any significant lensing effect, not to mention it wouldn't survive without collapsing spectacularly for more than a few days after being conjured at best, let alone form naturally in the first place.
– John Dvorak
1 hour ago
"If it orbited at the right distance": the focal distance of a ball lens is $f = nD / 4(n - 1)$, with n being the index of refraction of the material and D the diameter of the sphere. For glass, this works out at about 0.8 D, so that orbit must be very close to the surface. Not to mention that the focus lies on the optical axis, so that it wont fall on the surface unless the moon is in conjuction with the Sun. And ball lenses are horrible lenses, they won't focus the light in a nice focal spot.
– AlexP
1 hour ago
Won't work, for reasons more than just absorption. See Would a Moon made of water pose a threat to Earth during eclipses?
– Phil Frost
55 mins ago
add a comment |
A transparent sphere works as a burning glass so a moon of (impossible) clear material should do the trick by concentrating the rays from the sun if it orbited at the right distance.
Trouble is that absorbtion would eat most of the light if the diameter was more than a kilometer. A thin ice-shell might work, but good luck with explaining the origin (and stability!!) of that ;-)
New contributor
A transparent sphere works as a burning glass so a moon of (impossible) clear material should do the trick by concentrating the rays from the sun if it orbited at the right distance.
Trouble is that absorbtion would eat most of the light if the diameter was more than a kilometer. A thin ice-shell might work, but good luck with explaining the origin (and stability!!) of that ;-)
New contributor
New contributor
answered 2 hours ago
Mads HornMads Horn
91
91
New contributor
New contributor
Welcome to Worldbuilding, Mads Horn! If you have a moment, please take the tour and visit the help center to learn more about the site. You may also find Worldbuilding Meta and The Sandbox useful. Here is a meta post on the culture and style of Worldbuilding.SE, just to help you understand our scope and methods, and how we do things here. Have fun!
– Gryphon
1 hour ago
A thin layer of ice may let enough light through, but it won't have any significant lensing effect, not to mention it wouldn't survive without collapsing spectacularly for more than a few days after being conjured at best, let alone form naturally in the first place.
– John Dvorak
1 hour ago
"If it orbited at the right distance": the focal distance of a ball lens is $f = nD / 4(n - 1)$, with n being the index of refraction of the material and D the diameter of the sphere. For glass, this works out at about 0.8 D, so that orbit must be very close to the surface. Not to mention that the focus lies on the optical axis, so that it wont fall on the surface unless the moon is in conjuction with the Sun. And ball lenses are horrible lenses, they won't focus the light in a nice focal spot.
– AlexP
1 hour ago
Won't work, for reasons more than just absorption. See Would a Moon made of water pose a threat to Earth during eclipses?
– Phil Frost
55 mins ago
add a comment |
Welcome to Worldbuilding, Mads Horn! If you have a moment, please take the tour and visit the help center to learn more about the site. You may also find Worldbuilding Meta and The Sandbox useful. Here is a meta post on the culture and style of Worldbuilding.SE, just to help you understand our scope and methods, and how we do things here. Have fun!
– Gryphon
1 hour ago
A thin layer of ice may let enough light through, but it won't have any significant lensing effect, not to mention it wouldn't survive without collapsing spectacularly for more than a few days after being conjured at best, let alone form naturally in the first place.
– John Dvorak
1 hour ago
"If it orbited at the right distance": the focal distance of a ball lens is $f = nD / 4(n - 1)$, with n being the index of refraction of the material and D the diameter of the sphere. For glass, this works out at about 0.8 D, so that orbit must be very close to the surface. Not to mention that the focus lies on the optical axis, so that it wont fall on the surface unless the moon is in conjuction with the Sun. And ball lenses are horrible lenses, they won't focus the light in a nice focal spot.
– AlexP
1 hour ago
Won't work, for reasons more than just absorption. See Would a Moon made of water pose a threat to Earth during eclipses?
– Phil Frost
55 mins ago
Welcome to Worldbuilding, Mads Horn! If you have a moment, please take the tour and visit the help center to learn more about the site. You may also find Worldbuilding Meta and The Sandbox useful. Here is a meta post on the culture and style of Worldbuilding.SE, just to help you understand our scope and methods, and how we do things here. Have fun!
– Gryphon
1 hour ago
Welcome to Worldbuilding, Mads Horn! If you have a moment, please take the tour and visit the help center to learn more about the site. You may also find Worldbuilding Meta and The Sandbox useful. Here is a meta post on the culture and style of Worldbuilding.SE, just to help you understand our scope and methods, and how we do things here. Have fun!
– Gryphon
1 hour ago
A thin layer of ice may let enough light through, but it won't have any significant lensing effect, not to mention it wouldn't survive without collapsing spectacularly for more than a few days after being conjured at best, let alone form naturally in the first place.
– John Dvorak
1 hour ago
A thin layer of ice may let enough light through, but it won't have any significant lensing effect, not to mention it wouldn't survive without collapsing spectacularly for more than a few days after being conjured at best, let alone form naturally in the first place.
– John Dvorak
1 hour ago
"If it orbited at the right distance": the focal distance of a ball lens is $f = nD / 4(n - 1)$, with n being the index of refraction of the material and D the diameter of the sphere. For glass, this works out at about 0.8 D, so that orbit must be very close to the surface. Not to mention that the focus lies on the optical axis, so that it wont fall on the surface unless the moon is in conjuction with the Sun. And ball lenses are horrible lenses, they won't focus the light in a nice focal spot.
– AlexP
1 hour ago
"If it orbited at the right distance": the focal distance of a ball lens is $f = nD / 4(n - 1)$, with n being the index of refraction of the material and D the diameter of the sphere. For glass, this works out at about 0.8 D, so that orbit must be very close to the surface. Not to mention that the focus lies on the optical axis, so that it wont fall on the surface unless the moon is in conjuction with the Sun. And ball lenses are horrible lenses, they won't focus the light in a nice focal spot.
– AlexP
1 hour ago
Won't work, for reasons more than just absorption. See Would a Moon made of water pose a threat to Earth during eclipses?
– Phil Frost
55 mins ago
Won't work, for reasons more than just absorption. See Would a Moon made of water pose a threat to Earth during eclipses?
– Phil Frost
55 mins ago
add a comment |
Any sort of passive light-focusing (with lenses, mirrors, etc) scheme is unlikely do more than to make slightly warm spots. The fundamental reason has to do with the conservation of etendue, and you can read more about it at Would a Moon made of water pose a threat to Earth during eclipses?
As such, if you want the spotlight to come from a moon, the moon would either need some kind of power source (which starts to sound like "giant lasers") or would need some natural mechanism to eject jets of energy or matter. As far as I know, all kinds of astrophysical jets would require something much more massive than a moon, so this seems like a dead-end.
I think the most feasible explanation is a planet which is ordinarily protected by its atmosphere and/or magnetosphere, but on occasion the weather aligns such that the protection is lost in an area. We to experience this to a small extent on earth: both the sun and earth have magnetic fields that vary over time. One trouble is if the earth's magnetosphere were periodically penetrated by the solar wind, the atmosphere would be stripped away. Though it could take a very long time -- perhaps it is interesting for your story to have a "dying planet".
add a comment |
Any sort of passive light-focusing (with lenses, mirrors, etc) scheme is unlikely do more than to make slightly warm spots. The fundamental reason has to do with the conservation of etendue, and you can read more about it at Would a Moon made of water pose a threat to Earth during eclipses?
As such, if you want the spotlight to come from a moon, the moon would either need some kind of power source (which starts to sound like "giant lasers") or would need some natural mechanism to eject jets of energy or matter. As far as I know, all kinds of astrophysical jets would require something much more massive than a moon, so this seems like a dead-end.
I think the most feasible explanation is a planet which is ordinarily protected by its atmosphere and/or magnetosphere, but on occasion the weather aligns such that the protection is lost in an area. We to experience this to a small extent on earth: both the sun and earth have magnetic fields that vary over time. One trouble is if the earth's magnetosphere were periodically penetrated by the solar wind, the atmosphere would be stripped away. Though it could take a very long time -- perhaps it is interesting for your story to have a "dying planet".
add a comment |
Any sort of passive light-focusing (with lenses, mirrors, etc) scheme is unlikely do more than to make slightly warm spots. The fundamental reason has to do with the conservation of etendue, and you can read more about it at Would a Moon made of water pose a threat to Earth during eclipses?
As such, if you want the spotlight to come from a moon, the moon would either need some kind of power source (which starts to sound like "giant lasers") or would need some natural mechanism to eject jets of energy or matter. As far as I know, all kinds of astrophysical jets would require something much more massive than a moon, so this seems like a dead-end.
I think the most feasible explanation is a planet which is ordinarily protected by its atmosphere and/or magnetosphere, but on occasion the weather aligns such that the protection is lost in an area. We to experience this to a small extent on earth: both the sun and earth have magnetic fields that vary over time. One trouble is if the earth's magnetosphere were periodically penetrated by the solar wind, the atmosphere would be stripped away. Though it could take a very long time -- perhaps it is interesting for your story to have a "dying planet".
Any sort of passive light-focusing (with lenses, mirrors, etc) scheme is unlikely do more than to make slightly warm spots. The fundamental reason has to do with the conservation of etendue, and you can read more about it at Would a Moon made of water pose a threat to Earth during eclipses?
As such, if you want the spotlight to come from a moon, the moon would either need some kind of power source (which starts to sound like "giant lasers") or would need some natural mechanism to eject jets of energy or matter. As far as I know, all kinds of astrophysical jets would require something much more massive than a moon, so this seems like a dead-end.
I think the most feasible explanation is a planet which is ordinarily protected by its atmosphere and/or magnetosphere, but on occasion the weather aligns such that the protection is lost in an area. We to experience this to a small extent on earth: both the sun and earth have magnetic fields that vary over time. One trouble is if the earth's magnetosphere were periodically penetrated by the solar wind, the atmosphere would be stripped away. Though it could take a very long time -- perhaps it is interesting for your story to have a "dying planet".
answered 30 mins ago
Phil FrostPhil Frost
1,826159
1,826159
add a comment |
add a comment |
Thanks for contributing an answer to Worldbuilding Stack Exchange!
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Some of your past answers have not been well-received, and you're in danger of being blocked from answering.
Please pay close attention to the following guidance:
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fworldbuilding.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f135840%2fhow-can-a-planet-have-a-deadly-eclipse-like-spotlight%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Natural is strongly preferred.
– Devsman
3 hours ago
How about the moon's gravity acting like a lens, focusing its receiving light and hitting the planet at its focus point? The question would be how to justify that a moon focuses that much light... maybe its made out of some reflective element? Isn't something similar occurring during solar eclipses, but with much less effect?
– Battle
3 hours ago
1
Conservation of etendue. Can't have a moon that is brighter than its parent star using just ref*ction. The bigger issue is producing the spotlight effect though.
– John Dvorak
2 hours ago
3
Scratch that. Devising anything that kills animals reliably while leaving plants untouched is pretty much impossible. For one thing, you'd have to explain why the animals don't just fancy a coat of lichen from day zero of their evolution.
– John Dvorak
2 hours ago
1
@JohnDvorak Point taken. I'll update so it's not necessary for native animals to be killed.
– Devsman
2 hours ago