Why doesn't water actually perfectly wet glass?
According to many high school textbook sources, water perfectly wets glass. That is, the adhesion between water and glass is so strong that it is energetically favorable for a drop of water on glass to spread out and coat the entire surface. Students are often made to memorize this fact, and many physics questions use it as an assumption.
However, it's perfectly obvious that this doesn't actually happen. If you put a drop of water on glass, it might spread out a little, but it doesn't remotely coat the whole thing. In fact, I've never seen anything like the phenomenon described as "perfect wetting".
Can perfect wetting actually be observed for everyday materials? If not, what are the main additional factors preventing it from happening, as the textbooks say?
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According to many high school textbook sources, water perfectly wets glass. That is, the adhesion between water and glass is so strong that it is energetically favorable for a drop of water on glass to spread out and coat the entire surface. Students are often made to memorize this fact, and many physics questions use it as an assumption.
However, it's perfectly obvious that this doesn't actually happen. If you put a drop of water on glass, it might spread out a little, but it doesn't remotely coat the whole thing. In fact, I've never seen anything like the phenomenon described as "perfect wetting".
Can perfect wetting actually be observed for everyday materials? If not, what are the main additional factors preventing it from happening, as the textbooks say?
everyday-life water physical-chemistry surface-tension glass
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I have a feeling "every high school textbook ever written" might reflect a certain bias. I, for one, do not recall being taught that water "perfectly" wets glass, just that it wets it pretty well. That physics questions might assume perfect wetting strikes me as an assumption of much the same kind as neglecting friction. Lastly, doesn't the kind of wetting depend on mechanical properties of the surface (e.g. polished vs. roughened) at least as much as whether it's glass or not?
– ACuriousMind♦
2 days ago
@ACuriousMind Maybe your education system is better! Indeed, I would imagine that viscosity and imperfections on the surface play a role, but there may be many other factors. I'm interested in what the actually most important factors are in practice.
– knzhou
2 days ago
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perfect wetting kind of occurs, if you drop a oil on a lake, this oil will spread the surface of a lake such that it will cover it in a single molecular layer of oil sheet. youtube.com/watch?v=f2H418M3V6M
– physshyp
2 days ago
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I was never taught that either. Perhaps adjust the question as it seems obvious you have not read "every high school textbook ever written"! Instead consider naming the specific source you're thinking of.
– Lightness Races in Orbit
2 days ago
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit I was just trying for some hyperbole for emphasis, but sure, edited.
– knzhou
2 days ago
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According to many high school textbook sources, water perfectly wets glass. That is, the adhesion between water and glass is so strong that it is energetically favorable for a drop of water on glass to spread out and coat the entire surface. Students are often made to memorize this fact, and many physics questions use it as an assumption.
However, it's perfectly obvious that this doesn't actually happen. If you put a drop of water on glass, it might spread out a little, but it doesn't remotely coat the whole thing. In fact, I've never seen anything like the phenomenon described as "perfect wetting".
Can perfect wetting actually be observed for everyday materials? If not, what are the main additional factors preventing it from happening, as the textbooks say?
everyday-life water physical-chemistry surface-tension glass
According to many high school textbook sources, water perfectly wets glass. That is, the adhesion between water and glass is so strong that it is energetically favorable for a drop of water on glass to spread out and coat the entire surface. Students are often made to memorize this fact, and many physics questions use it as an assumption.
However, it's perfectly obvious that this doesn't actually happen. If you put a drop of water on glass, it might spread out a little, but it doesn't remotely coat the whole thing. In fact, I've never seen anything like the phenomenon described as "perfect wetting".
Can perfect wetting actually be observed for everyday materials? If not, what are the main additional factors preventing it from happening, as the textbooks say?
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I have a feeling "every high school textbook ever written" might reflect a certain bias. I, for one, do not recall being taught that water "perfectly" wets glass, just that it wets it pretty well. That physics questions might assume perfect wetting strikes me as an assumption of much the same kind as neglecting friction. Lastly, doesn't the kind of wetting depend on mechanical properties of the surface (e.g. polished vs. roughened) at least as much as whether it's glass or not?
– ACuriousMind♦
2 days ago
@ACuriousMind Maybe your education system is better! Indeed, I would imagine that viscosity and imperfections on the surface play a role, but there may be many other factors. I'm interested in what the actually most important factors are in practice.
– knzhou
2 days ago
6
perfect wetting kind of occurs, if you drop a oil on a lake, this oil will spread the surface of a lake such that it will cover it in a single molecular layer of oil sheet. youtube.com/watch?v=f2H418M3V6M
– physshyp
2 days ago
9
I was never taught that either. Perhaps adjust the question as it seems obvious you have not read "every high school textbook ever written"! Instead consider naming the specific source you're thinking of.
– Lightness Races in Orbit
2 days ago
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit I was just trying for some hyperbole for emphasis, but sure, edited.
– knzhou
2 days ago
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I have a feeling "every high school textbook ever written" might reflect a certain bias. I, for one, do not recall being taught that water "perfectly" wets glass, just that it wets it pretty well. That physics questions might assume perfect wetting strikes me as an assumption of much the same kind as neglecting friction. Lastly, doesn't the kind of wetting depend on mechanical properties of the surface (e.g. polished vs. roughened) at least as much as whether it's glass or not?
– ACuriousMind♦
2 days ago
@ACuriousMind Maybe your education system is better! Indeed, I would imagine that viscosity and imperfections on the surface play a role, but there may be many other factors. I'm interested in what the actually most important factors are in practice.
– knzhou
2 days ago
6
perfect wetting kind of occurs, if you drop a oil on a lake, this oil will spread the surface of a lake such that it will cover it in a single molecular layer of oil sheet. youtube.com/watch?v=f2H418M3V6M
– physshyp
2 days ago
9
I was never taught that either. Perhaps adjust the question as it seems obvious you have not read "every high school textbook ever written"! Instead consider naming the specific source you're thinking of.
– Lightness Races in Orbit
2 days ago
1
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I was just trying for some hyperbole for emphasis, but sure, edited.
– knzhou
2 days ago
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I have a feeling "every high school textbook ever written" might reflect a certain bias. I, for one, do not recall being taught that water "perfectly" wets glass, just that it wets it pretty well. That physics questions might assume perfect wetting strikes me as an assumption of much the same kind as neglecting friction. Lastly, doesn't the kind of wetting depend on mechanical properties of the surface (e.g. polished vs. roughened) at least as much as whether it's glass or not?
– ACuriousMind♦
2 days ago
I have a feeling "every high school textbook ever written" might reflect a certain bias. I, for one, do not recall being taught that water "perfectly" wets glass, just that it wets it pretty well. That physics questions might assume perfect wetting strikes me as an assumption of much the same kind as neglecting friction. Lastly, doesn't the kind of wetting depend on mechanical properties of the surface (e.g. polished vs. roughened) at least as much as whether it's glass or not?
– ACuriousMind♦
2 days ago
@ACuriousMind Maybe your education system is better! Indeed, I would imagine that viscosity and imperfections on the surface play a role, but there may be many other factors. I'm interested in what the actually most important factors are in practice.
– knzhou
2 days ago
@ACuriousMind Maybe your education system is better! Indeed, I would imagine that viscosity and imperfections on the surface play a role, but there may be many other factors. I'm interested in what the actually most important factors are in practice.
– knzhou
2 days ago
6
6
perfect wetting kind of occurs, if you drop a oil on a lake, this oil will spread the surface of a lake such that it will cover it in a single molecular layer of oil sheet. youtube.com/watch?v=f2H418M3V6M
– physshyp
2 days ago
perfect wetting kind of occurs, if you drop a oil on a lake, this oil will spread the surface of a lake such that it will cover it in a single molecular layer of oil sheet. youtube.com/watch?v=f2H418M3V6M
– physshyp
2 days ago
9
9
I was never taught that either. Perhaps adjust the question as it seems obvious you have not read "every high school textbook ever written"! Instead consider naming the specific source you're thinking of.
– Lightness Races in Orbit
2 days ago
I was never taught that either. Perhaps adjust the question as it seems obvious you have not read "every high school textbook ever written"! Instead consider naming the specific source you're thinking of.
– Lightness Races in Orbit
2 days ago
1
1
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I was just trying for some hyperbole for emphasis, but sure, edited.
– knzhou
2 days ago
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I was just trying for some hyperbole for emphasis, but sure, edited.
– knzhou
2 days ago
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In everyday life glass surfaces are always covered by a layer of, well, crud. Glass surfaces are exceedingly high energy surfaces due to the high density of polar hydroxyl groups and they attract pretty much anything. This means that outside of a colloid science laboratory you will never encounter a clean glass surface.
I spent many years carrying out experiments involving interactions with glass surfaces, and to get the surface clean we had to clean it with chromic acid. A quick Google found instructions for doing this here, but if you ever feel tempted to try this at home do note the comment in that article:
The dichromate should be handled with extreme care because it is a powerful corrosive and carcinogen.
If you survive the cleaning process then you will find a water drop placed on the glass does have an effectively zero contact angle and the drop will spread out almost completely.
But it's only under these extreme conditions that you will see this. Just leaving the glass exposed to the air for a few hours is enough to coat it with a monolayer of whatever organic detritus if floating around (which if humans are present is quite a lot :-). Once this happens you aren't measuring the contact angle on glass, you are measuring it on whatever organic film is coating the glass.
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"If you survive the cleaning process"- John Ronnie, 2018
– Mohammad Zuhair Khan
2 days ago
19
@MohammadZuhairKhan - If you liked that, I suggest you read "Sand Won't Save You This Time", about chlorine triflouride. Specifically, "It is also hypergolic with such things as cloth, wood, and test engineers,"
– WhatRoughBeast
2 days ago
4
Dichromate seems a bit wacky. I've always used a plasma asher, although that's not really something one could do at home.
– J...
2 days ago
8
@Chloe does water droplets spread out after cleaning with a microfiber cloth? Unfortunately the answer is no. It's actually not clean. It may no longer have optical aberrations, but it's not necessarily clean just because you can't see it.
– Nelson
2 days ago
2
Obligatory xkcd: xkcd.com/541
– dessert
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It's because of surface energy
You can just cover glass with a thin layer of material that has low surface energy (like teflon) and then water/stuff won't stick(will stick alot less) to it...
Check this link for much more information.
To answer the question, yes and no.
The reason why we don't observe water, spread out on its own, on glass, as much as it can, is because of >> see accepted answer :D
However if you spread it yourself, then yea you could make a very thin coat of water covering the whole glass, which could be kinda described as perfect wetting.
1
I don't see how this answers OPs question. Does it stick to glass or not?
– pipe
20 hours ago
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I'm gonna say it's due to surface tension. In darkroom photography unless you're careful you'll get waterdrop marks on your negatives when you hang them up to dry. There's a commercial product called Photoflo (sp?) that stops this. Being cheap I found a couple drops of ordinary liquid dish detergent in the last rinse does about the same thing a lot cheaper. There are also "wetting agents" or some similar name for products you put into your dishwasher to avoid water spots on glasses, same idea. This is also related to a classic experiment to measure the thickness of an oleic acid molecule by putting a drop into a water bath and measuring the area it spreads out to. 8th grade science, 50 years ago but I still remember it.
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In everyday life glass surfaces are always covered by a layer of, well, crud. Glass surfaces are exceedingly high energy surfaces due to the high density of polar hydroxyl groups and they attract pretty much anything. This means that outside of a colloid science laboratory you will never encounter a clean glass surface.
I spent many years carrying out experiments involving interactions with glass surfaces, and to get the surface clean we had to clean it with chromic acid. A quick Google found instructions for doing this here, but if you ever feel tempted to try this at home do note the comment in that article:
The dichromate should be handled with extreme care because it is a powerful corrosive and carcinogen.
If you survive the cleaning process then you will find a water drop placed on the glass does have an effectively zero contact angle and the drop will spread out almost completely.
But it's only under these extreme conditions that you will see this. Just leaving the glass exposed to the air for a few hours is enough to coat it with a monolayer of whatever organic detritus if floating around (which if humans are present is quite a lot :-). Once this happens you aren't measuring the contact angle on glass, you are measuring it on whatever organic film is coating the glass.
46
"If you survive the cleaning process"- John Ronnie, 2018
– Mohammad Zuhair Khan
2 days ago
19
@MohammadZuhairKhan - If you liked that, I suggest you read "Sand Won't Save You This Time", about chlorine triflouride. Specifically, "It is also hypergolic with such things as cloth, wood, and test engineers,"
– WhatRoughBeast
2 days ago
4
Dichromate seems a bit wacky. I've always used a plasma asher, although that's not really something one could do at home.
– J...
2 days ago
8
@Chloe does water droplets spread out after cleaning with a microfiber cloth? Unfortunately the answer is no. It's actually not clean. It may no longer have optical aberrations, but it's not necessarily clean just because you can't see it.
– Nelson
2 days ago
2
Obligatory xkcd: xkcd.com/541
– dessert
yesterday
|
show 8 more comments
In everyday life glass surfaces are always covered by a layer of, well, crud. Glass surfaces are exceedingly high energy surfaces due to the high density of polar hydroxyl groups and they attract pretty much anything. This means that outside of a colloid science laboratory you will never encounter a clean glass surface.
I spent many years carrying out experiments involving interactions with glass surfaces, and to get the surface clean we had to clean it with chromic acid. A quick Google found instructions for doing this here, but if you ever feel tempted to try this at home do note the comment in that article:
The dichromate should be handled with extreme care because it is a powerful corrosive and carcinogen.
If you survive the cleaning process then you will find a water drop placed on the glass does have an effectively zero contact angle and the drop will spread out almost completely.
But it's only under these extreme conditions that you will see this. Just leaving the glass exposed to the air for a few hours is enough to coat it with a monolayer of whatever organic detritus if floating around (which if humans are present is quite a lot :-). Once this happens you aren't measuring the contact angle on glass, you are measuring it on whatever organic film is coating the glass.
46
"If you survive the cleaning process"- John Ronnie, 2018
– Mohammad Zuhair Khan
2 days ago
19
@MohammadZuhairKhan - If you liked that, I suggest you read "Sand Won't Save You This Time", about chlorine triflouride. Specifically, "It is also hypergolic with such things as cloth, wood, and test engineers,"
– WhatRoughBeast
2 days ago
4
Dichromate seems a bit wacky. I've always used a plasma asher, although that's not really something one could do at home.
– J...
2 days ago
8
@Chloe does water droplets spread out after cleaning with a microfiber cloth? Unfortunately the answer is no. It's actually not clean. It may no longer have optical aberrations, but it's not necessarily clean just because you can't see it.
– Nelson
2 days ago
2
Obligatory xkcd: xkcd.com/541
– dessert
yesterday
|
show 8 more comments
In everyday life glass surfaces are always covered by a layer of, well, crud. Glass surfaces are exceedingly high energy surfaces due to the high density of polar hydroxyl groups and they attract pretty much anything. This means that outside of a colloid science laboratory you will never encounter a clean glass surface.
I spent many years carrying out experiments involving interactions with glass surfaces, and to get the surface clean we had to clean it with chromic acid. A quick Google found instructions for doing this here, but if you ever feel tempted to try this at home do note the comment in that article:
The dichromate should be handled with extreme care because it is a powerful corrosive and carcinogen.
If you survive the cleaning process then you will find a water drop placed on the glass does have an effectively zero contact angle and the drop will spread out almost completely.
But it's only under these extreme conditions that you will see this. Just leaving the glass exposed to the air for a few hours is enough to coat it with a monolayer of whatever organic detritus if floating around (which if humans are present is quite a lot :-). Once this happens you aren't measuring the contact angle on glass, you are measuring it on whatever organic film is coating the glass.
In everyday life glass surfaces are always covered by a layer of, well, crud. Glass surfaces are exceedingly high energy surfaces due to the high density of polar hydroxyl groups and they attract pretty much anything. This means that outside of a colloid science laboratory you will never encounter a clean glass surface.
I spent many years carrying out experiments involving interactions with glass surfaces, and to get the surface clean we had to clean it with chromic acid. A quick Google found instructions for doing this here, but if you ever feel tempted to try this at home do note the comment in that article:
The dichromate should be handled with extreme care because it is a powerful corrosive and carcinogen.
If you survive the cleaning process then you will find a water drop placed on the glass does have an effectively zero contact angle and the drop will spread out almost completely.
But it's only under these extreme conditions that you will see this. Just leaving the glass exposed to the air for a few hours is enough to coat it with a monolayer of whatever organic detritus if floating around (which if humans are present is quite a lot :-). Once this happens you aren't measuring the contact angle on glass, you are measuring it on whatever organic film is coating the glass.
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"If you survive the cleaning process"- John Ronnie, 2018
– Mohammad Zuhair Khan
2 days ago
19
@MohammadZuhairKhan - If you liked that, I suggest you read "Sand Won't Save You This Time", about chlorine triflouride. Specifically, "It is also hypergolic with such things as cloth, wood, and test engineers,"
– WhatRoughBeast
2 days ago
4
Dichromate seems a bit wacky. I've always used a plasma asher, although that's not really something one could do at home.
– J...
2 days ago
8
@Chloe does water droplets spread out after cleaning with a microfiber cloth? Unfortunately the answer is no. It's actually not clean. It may no longer have optical aberrations, but it's not necessarily clean just because you can't see it.
– Nelson
2 days ago
2
Obligatory xkcd: xkcd.com/541
– dessert
yesterday
|
show 8 more comments
46
"If you survive the cleaning process"- John Ronnie, 2018
– Mohammad Zuhair Khan
2 days ago
19
@MohammadZuhairKhan - If you liked that, I suggest you read "Sand Won't Save You This Time", about chlorine triflouride. Specifically, "It is also hypergolic with such things as cloth, wood, and test engineers,"
– WhatRoughBeast
2 days ago
4
Dichromate seems a bit wacky. I've always used a plasma asher, although that's not really something one could do at home.
– J...
2 days ago
8
@Chloe does water droplets spread out after cleaning with a microfiber cloth? Unfortunately the answer is no. It's actually not clean. It may no longer have optical aberrations, but it's not necessarily clean just because you can't see it.
– Nelson
2 days ago
2
Obligatory xkcd: xkcd.com/541
– dessert
yesterday
46
46
"If you survive the cleaning process"- John Ronnie, 2018
– Mohammad Zuhair Khan
2 days ago
"If you survive the cleaning process"- John Ronnie, 2018
– Mohammad Zuhair Khan
2 days ago
19
19
@MohammadZuhairKhan - If you liked that, I suggest you read "Sand Won't Save You This Time", about chlorine triflouride. Specifically, "It is also hypergolic with such things as cloth, wood, and test engineers,"
– WhatRoughBeast
2 days ago
@MohammadZuhairKhan - If you liked that, I suggest you read "Sand Won't Save You This Time", about chlorine triflouride. Specifically, "It is also hypergolic with such things as cloth, wood, and test engineers,"
– WhatRoughBeast
2 days ago
4
4
Dichromate seems a bit wacky. I've always used a plasma asher, although that's not really something one could do at home.
– J...
2 days ago
Dichromate seems a bit wacky. I've always used a plasma asher, although that's not really something one could do at home.
– J...
2 days ago
8
8
@Chloe does water droplets spread out after cleaning with a microfiber cloth? Unfortunately the answer is no. It's actually not clean. It may no longer have optical aberrations, but it's not necessarily clean just because you can't see it.
– Nelson
2 days ago
@Chloe does water droplets spread out after cleaning with a microfiber cloth? Unfortunately the answer is no. It's actually not clean. It may no longer have optical aberrations, but it's not necessarily clean just because you can't see it.
– Nelson
2 days ago
2
2
Obligatory xkcd: xkcd.com/541
– dessert
yesterday
Obligatory xkcd: xkcd.com/541
– dessert
yesterday
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It's because of surface energy
You can just cover glass with a thin layer of material that has low surface energy (like teflon) and then water/stuff won't stick(will stick alot less) to it...
Check this link for much more information.
To answer the question, yes and no.
The reason why we don't observe water, spread out on its own, on glass, as much as it can, is because of >> see accepted answer :D
However if you spread it yourself, then yea you could make a very thin coat of water covering the whole glass, which could be kinda described as perfect wetting.
1
I don't see how this answers OPs question. Does it stick to glass or not?
– pipe
20 hours ago
add a comment |
It's because of surface energy
You can just cover glass with a thin layer of material that has low surface energy (like teflon) and then water/stuff won't stick(will stick alot less) to it...
Check this link for much more information.
To answer the question, yes and no.
The reason why we don't observe water, spread out on its own, on glass, as much as it can, is because of >> see accepted answer :D
However if you spread it yourself, then yea you could make a very thin coat of water covering the whole glass, which could be kinda described as perfect wetting.
1
I don't see how this answers OPs question. Does it stick to glass or not?
– pipe
20 hours ago
add a comment |
It's because of surface energy
You can just cover glass with a thin layer of material that has low surface energy (like teflon) and then water/stuff won't stick(will stick alot less) to it...
Check this link for much more information.
To answer the question, yes and no.
The reason why we don't observe water, spread out on its own, on glass, as much as it can, is because of >> see accepted answer :D
However if you spread it yourself, then yea you could make a very thin coat of water covering the whole glass, which could be kinda described as perfect wetting.
It's because of surface energy
You can just cover glass with a thin layer of material that has low surface energy (like teflon) and then water/stuff won't stick(will stick alot less) to it...
Check this link for much more information.
To answer the question, yes and no.
The reason why we don't observe water, spread out on its own, on glass, as much as it can, is because of >> see accepted answer :D
However if you spread it yourself, then yea you could make a very thin coat of water covering the whole glass, which could be kinda described as perfect wetting.
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I don't see how this answers OPs question. Does it stick to glass or not?
– pipe
20 hours ago
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I don't see how this answers OPs question. Does it stick to glass or not?
– pipe
20 hours ago
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I don't see how this answers OPs question. Does it stick to glass or not?
– pipe
20 hours ago
I don't see how this answers OPs question. Does it stick to glass or not?
– pipe
20 hours ago
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I'm gonna say it's due to surface tension. In darkroom photography unless you're careful you'll get waterdrop marks on your negatives when you hang them up to dry. There's a commercial product called Photoflo (sp?) that stops this. Being cheap I found a couple drops of ordinary liquid dish detergent in the last rinse does about the same thing a lot cheaper. There are also "wetting agents" or some similar name for products you put into your dishwasher to avoid water spots on glasses, same idea. This is also related to a classic experiment to measure the thickness of an oleic acid molecule by putting a drop into a water bath and measuring the area it spreads out to. 8th grade science, 50 years ago but I still remember it.
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I'm gonna say it's due to surface tension. In darkroom photography unless you're careful you'll get waterdrop marks on your negatives when you hang them up to dry. There's a commercial product called Photoflo (sp?) that stops this. Being cheap I found a couple drops of ordinary liquid dish detergent in the last rinse does about the same thing a lot cheaper. There are also "wetting agents" or some similar name for products you put into your dishwasher to avoid water spots on glasses, same idea. This is also related to a classic experiment to measure the thickness of an oleic acid molecule by putting a drop into a water bath and measuring the area it spreads out to. 8th grade science, 50 years ago but I still remember it.
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I'm gonna say it's due to surface tension. In darkroom photography unless you're careful you'll get waterdrop marks on your negatives when you hang them up to dry. There's a commercial product called Photoflo (sp?) that stops this. Being cheap I found a couple drops of ordinary liquid dish detergent in the last rinse does about the same thing a lot cheaper. There are also "wetting agents" or some similar name for products you put into your dishwasher to avoid water spots on glasses, same idea. This is also related to a classic experiment to measure the thickness of an oleic acid molecule by putting a drop into a water bath and measuring the area it spreads out to. 8th grade science, 50 years ago but I still remember it.
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I'm gonna say it's due to surface tension. In darkroom photography unless you're careful you'll get waterdrop marks on your negatives when you hang them up to dry. There's a commercial product called Photoflo (sp?) that stops this. Being cheap I found a couple drops of ordinary liquid dish detergent in the last rinse does about the same thing a lot cheaper. There are also "wetting agents" or some similar name for products you put into your dishwasher to avoid water spots on glasses, same idea. This is also related to a classic experiment to measure the thickness of an oleic acid molecule by putting a drop into a water bath and measuring the area it spreads out to. 8th grade science, 50 years ago but I still remember it.
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I have a feeling "every high school textbook ever written" might reflect a certain bias. I, for one, do not recall being taught that water "perfectly" wets glass, just that it wets it pretty well. That physics questions might assume perfect wetting strikes me as an assumption of much the same kind as neglecting friction. Lastly, doesn't the kind of wetting depend on mechanical properties of the surface (e.g. polished vs. roughened) at least as much as whether it's glass or not?
– ACuriousMind♦
2 days ago
@ACuriousMind Maybe your education system is better! Indeed, I would imagine that viscosity and imperfections on the surface play a role, but there may be many other factors. I'm interested in what the actually most important factors are in practice.
– knzhou
2 days ago
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perfect wetting kind of occurs, if you drop a oil on a lake, this oil will spread the surface of a lake such that it will cover it in a single molecular layer of oil sheet. youtube.com/watch?v=f2H418M3V6M
– physshyp
2 days ago
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I was never taught that either. Perhaps adjust the question as it seems obvious you have not read "every high school textbook ever written"! Instead consider naming the specific source you're thinking of.
– Lightness Races in Orbit
2 days ago
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit I was just trying for some hyperbole for emphasis, but sure, edited.
– knzhou
2 days ago