Continuous functions on unit discs can be extended to whole plane
Say $B$ and $D$ be closed and open unit discs in 2 dimensional euclidean plane. I have two doubts.
- Given continuous function $g : B to mathbb{R}$, there is a continuous function $f : mathbb{R} ^2 to mathbb{R}$ such that $f=g$ on $B$.
- Given continuous function $u : D to mathbb{R}$, there is a continuous function $v : mathbb{R} ^2 to mathbb{R}$ such that $ v=u $ on $D$.
I think the first one is doable. What I think is if we define $f$ as $ f(re^{iz}) = r*f(e^{iz})$ outside $B$ and $f=g$ inside $B$, we are done. The same can not be done with the second part. Am I on the right track?
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Say $B$ and $D$ be closed and open unit discs in 2 dimensional euclidean plane. I have two doubts.
- Given continuous function $g : B to mathbb{R}$, there is a continuous function $f : mathbb{R} ^2 to mathbb{R}$ such that $f=g$ on $B$.
- Given continuous function $u : D to mathbb{R}$, there is a continuous function $v : mathbb{R} ^2 to mathbb{R}$ such that $ v=u $ on $D$.
I think the first one is doable. What I think is if we define $f$ as $ f(re^{iz}) = r*f(e^{iz})$ outside $B$ and $f=g$ inside $B$, we are done. The same can not be done with the second part. Am I on the right track?
general-topology algebraic-topology continuity metric-spaces
For the second part think of a function that goes to $infty$ as you get close to the border of the disk
– Alessandro Codenotti
19 hours ago
You're on the right track. You could also simply let $f(re^{iz})=f(e^{iz})$ for $rgt1$. You could even let $f(re^{iz})=f(e^{iz})/r$. But whatever you do, you need to prove that your extended function is continuous.
– Barry Cipra
19 hours ago
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Say $B$ and $D$ be closed and open unit discs in 2 dimensional euclidean plane. I have two doubts.
- Given continuous function $g : B to mathbb{R}$, there is a continuous function $f : mathbb{R} ^2 to mathbb{R}$ such that $f=g$ on $B$.
- Given continuous function $u : D to mathbb{R}$, there is a continuous function $v : mathbb{R} ^2 to mathbb{R}$ such that $ v=u $ on $D$.
I think the first one is doable. What I think is if we define $f$ as $ f(re^{iz}) = r*f(e^{iz})$ outside $B$ and $f=g$ inside $B$, we are done. The same can not be done with the second part. Am I on the right track?
general-topology algebraic-topology continuity metric-spaces
Say $B$ and $D$ be closed and open unit discs in 2 dimensional euclidean plane. I have two doubts.
- Given continuous function $g : B to mathbb{R}$, there is a continuous function $f : mathbb{R} ^2 to mathbb{R}$ such that $f=g$ on $B$.
- Given continuous function $u : D to mathbb{R}$, there is a continuous function $v : mathbb{R} ^2 to mathbb{R}$ such that $ v=u $ on $D$.
I think the first one is doable. What I think is if we define $f$ as $ f(re^{iz}) = r*f(e^{iz})$ outside $B$ and $f=g$ inside $B$, we are done. The same can not be done with the second part. Am I on the right track?
general-topology algebraic-topology continuity metric-spaces
general-topology algebraic-topology continuity metric-spaces
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For the second part think of a function that goes to $infty$ as you get close to the border of the disk
– Alessandro Codenotti
19 hours ago
You're on the right track. You could also simply let $f(re^{iz})=f(e^{iz})$ for $rgt1$. You could even let $f(re^{iz})=f(e^{iz})/r$. But whatever you do, you need to prove that your extended function is continuous.
– Barry Cipra
19 hours ago
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For the second part think of a function that goes to $infty$ as you get close to the border of the disk
– Alessandro Codenotti
19 hours ago
You're on the right track. You could also simply let $f(re^{iz})=f(e^{iz})$ for $rgt1$. You could even let $f(re^{iz})=f(e^{iz})/r$. But whatever you do, you need to prove that your extended function is continuous.
– Barry Cipra
19 hours ago
For the second part think of a function that goes to $infty$ as you get close to the border of the disk
– Alessandro Codenotti
19 hours ago
For the second part think of a function that goes to $infty$ as you get close to the border of the disk
– Alessandro Codenotti
19 hours ago
You're on the right track. You could also simply let $f(re^{iz})=f(e^{iz})$ for $rgt1$. You could even let $f(re^{iz})=f(e^{iz})/r$. But whatever you do, you need to prove that your extended function is continuous.
– Barry Cipra
19 hours ago
You're on the right track. You could also simply let $f(re^{iz})=f(e^{iz})$ for $rgt1$. You could even let $f(re^{iz})=f(e^{iz})/r$. But whatever you do, you need to prove that your extended function is continuous.
– Barry Cipra
19 hours ago
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Is indeed true.
Is false. Consider $u : (x,y) mapsto frac{1}{1-sqrt{x^2+y^2}}$. $u$ cannot be extended to a continuous function on $mathbb R^2$ as it is unbounded on $D$.
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As for the first one, you are correct. If $B$ is closed, then $f:Bto mathbb{R}$ being continuous determines the boundary behavior of $f|_{partial D}$. Indeed, radially extending as you propose should work fine.
As for the second part, your doubts are well-founded. While the function may be tame on the interior of the domain, it may not extend continuously to the boundary. Take for instance
$$ f(x)=sinleft(frac{1}{x-1}right)$$
defined on $[0,1)$. It is quite tame, away from $x=1$, but has an oscillating discontinuity at $1$. Now, define
$$g(x,y)=sinleft(frac{1}{sqrt{x^2+y^2}-1}right)$$
on $D$. This function cannot be extended continuously to any point in $partial D$, let alone to $mathbb{R}^2$.
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Your approach is good. A concrete example for the second part is $f(z)=frac{1}{|z|-1}$ which tends to $infty$ as $z$ tends to 1 and thus cannot be extended to the unit disk, let alone the whole plane
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f is a map from R² to R. So f(z) can't be what you said. But f(z) = 1/(|z|-1) would work. Thanks.
– ChakSayantan
19 hours ago
Good point @ChakSayantan I will update my answer
– Sorin Tirc
19 hours ago
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Though it may be a bit advanced, the Tietze extension theorem covers the case of $B$. Your method works just as well, but this would sort of be an assurance that it's possible.
For the open disc, it's easy to find an unbounded continuous function which obviously can't be extended.
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Is indeed true.
Is false. Consider $u : (x,y) mapsto frac{1}{1-sqrt{x^2+y^2}}$. $u$ cannot be extended to a continuous function on $mathbb R^2$ as it is unbounded on $D$.
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Is indeed true.
Is false. Consider $u : (x,y) mapsto frac{1}{1-sqrt{x^2+y^2}}$. $u$ cannot be extended to a continuous function on $mathbb R^2$ as it is unbounded on $D$.
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Is indeed true.
Is false. Consider $u : (x,y) mapsto frac{1}{1-sqrt{x^2+y^2}}$. $u$ cannot be extended to a continuous function on $mathbb R^2$ as it is unbounded on $D$.
Is indeed true.
Is false. Consider $u : (x,y) mapsto frac{1}{1-sqrt{x^2+y^2}}$. $u$ cannot be extended to a continuous function on $mathbb R^2$ as it is unbounded on $D$.
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As for the first one, you are correct. If $B$ is closed, then $f:Bto mathbb{R}$ being continuous determines the boundary behavior of $f|_{partial D}$. Indeed, radially extending as you propose should work fine.
As for the second part, your doubts are well-founded. While the function may be tame on the interior of the domain, it may not extend continuously to the boundary. Take for instance
$$ f(x)=sinleft(frac{1}{x-1}right)$$
defined on $[0,1)$. It is quite tame, away from $x=1$, but has an oscillating discontinuity at $1$. Now, define
$$g(x,y)=sinleft(frac{1}{sqrt{x^2+y^2}-1}right)$$
on $D$. This function cannot be extended continuously to any point in $partial D$, let alone to $mathbb{R}^2$.
add a comment |
As for the first one, you are correct. If $B$ is closed, then $f:Bto mathbb{R}$ being continuous determines the boundary behavior of $f|_{partial D}$. Indeed, radially extending as you propose should work fine.
As for the second part, your doubts are well-founded. While the function may be tame on the interior of the domain, it may not extend continuously to the boundary. Take for instance
$$ f(x)=sinleft(frac{1}{x-1}right)$$
defined on $[0,1)$. It is quite tame, away from $x=1$, but has an oscillating discontinuity at $1$. Now, define
$$g(x,y)=sinleft(frac{1}{sqrt{x^2+y^2}-1}right)$$
on $D$. This function cannot be extended continuously to any point in $partial D$, let alone to $mathbb{R}^2$.
add a comment |
As for the first one, you are correct. If $B$ is closed, then $f:Bto mathbb{R}$ being continuous determines the boundary behavior of $f|_{partial D}$. Indeed, radially extending as you propose should work fine.
As for the second part, your doubts are well-founded. While the function may be tame on the interior of the domain, it may not extend continuously to the boundary. Take for instance
$$ f(x)=sinleft(frac{1}{x-1}right)$$
defined on $[0,1)$. It is quite tame, away from $x=1$, but has an oscillating discontinuity at $1$. Now, define
$$g(x,y)=sinleft(frac{1}{sqrt{x^2+y^2}-1}right)$$
on $D$. This function cannot be extended continuously to any point in $partial D$, let alone to $mathbb{R}^2$.
As for the first one, you are correct. If $B$ is closed, then $f:Bto mathbb{R}$ being continuous determines the boundary behavior of $f|_{partial D}$. Indeed, radially extending as you propose should work fine.
As for the second part, your doubts are well-founded. While the function may be tame on the interior of the domain, it may not extend continuously to the boundary. Take for instance
$$ f(x)=sinleft(frac{1}{x-1}right)$$
defined on $[0,1)$. It is quite tame, away from $x=1$, but has an oscillating discontinuity at $1$. Now, define
$$g(x,y)=sinleft(frac{1}{sqrt{x^2+y^2}-1}right)$$
on $D$. This function cannot be extended continuously to any point in $partial D$, let alone to $mathbb{R}^2$.
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Your approach is good. A concrete example for the second part is $f(z)=frac{1}{|z|-1}$ which tends to $infty$ as $z$ tends to 1 and thus cannot be extended to the unit disk, let alone the whole plane
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f is a map from R² to R. So f(z) can't be what you said. But f(z) = 1/(|z|-1) would work. Thanks.
– ChakSayantan
19 hours ago
Good point @ChakSayantan I will update my answer
– Sorin Tirc
19 hours ago
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Your approach is good. A concrete example for the second part is $f(z)=frac{1}{|z|-1}$ which tends to $infty$ as $z$ tends to 1 and thus cannot be extended to the unit disk, let alone the whole plane
1
f is a map from R² to R. So f(z) can't be what you said. But f(z) = 1/(|z|-1) would work. Thanks.
– ChakSayantan
19 hours ago
Good point @ChakSayantan I will update my answer
– Sorin Tirc
19 hours ago
add a comment |
Your approach is good. A concrete example for the second part is $f(z)=frac{1}{|z|-1}$ which tends to $infty$ as $z$ tends to 1 and thus cannot be extended to the unit disk, let alone the whole plane
Your approach is good. A concrete example for the second part is $f(z)=frac{1}{|z|-1}$ which tends to $infty$ as $z$ tends to 1 and thus cannot be extended to the unit disk, let alone the whole plane
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f is a map from R² to R. So f(z) can't be what you said. But f(z) = 1/(|z|-1) would work. Thanks.
– ChakSayantan
19 hours ago
Good point @ChakSayantan I will update my answer
– Sorin Tirc
19 hours ago
add a comment |
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f is a map from R² to R. So f(z) can't be what you said. But f(z) = 1/(|z|-1) would work. Thanks.
– ChakSayantan
19 hours ago
Good point @ChakSayantan I will update my answer
– Sorin Tirc
19 hours ago
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f is a map from R² to R. So f(z) can't be what you said. But f(z) = 1/(|z|-1) would work. Thanks.
– ChakSayantan
19 hours ago
f is a map from R² to R. So f(z) can't be what you said. But f(z) = 1/(|z|-1) would work. Thanks.
– ChakSayantan
19 hours ago
Good point @ChakSayantan I will update my answer
– Sorin Tirc
19 hours ago
Good point @ChakSayantan I will update my answer
– Sorin Tirc
19 hours ago
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Though it may be a bit advanced, the Tietze extension theorem covers the case of $B$. Your method works just as well, but this would sort of be an assurance that it's possible.
For the open disc, it's easy to find an unbounded continuous function which obviously can't be extended.
add a comment |
Though it may be a bit advanced, the Tietze extension theorem covers the case of $B$. Your method works just as well, but this would sort of be an assurance that it's possible.
For the open disc, it's easy to find an unbounded continuous function which obviously can't be extended.
add a comment |
Though it may be a bit advanced, the Tietze extension theorem covers the case of $B$. Your method works just as well, but this would sort of be an assurance that it's possible.
For the open disc, it's easy to find an unbounded continuous function which obviously can't be extended.
Though it may be a bit advanced, the Tietze extension theorem covers the case of $B$. Your method works just as well, but this would sort of be an assurance that it's possible.
For the open disc, it's easy to find an unbounded continuous function which obviously can't be extended.
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For the second part think of a function that goes to $infty$ as you get close to the border of the disk
– Alessandro Codenotti
19 hours ago
You're on the right track. You could also simply let $f(re^{iz})=f(e^{iz})$ for $rgt1$. You could even let $f(re^{iz})=f(e^{iz})/r$. But whatever you do, you need to prove that your extended function is continuous.
– Barry Cipra
19 hours ago