Where is the hole now? (ISS/Soyuz spacecraft hole)












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Gizmodo's Report: ISS Hole Drilled From the Inside, Cosmonaut Says has made me realize I've lost track of the hole. It was in the part of a Soyuz spacecraft docked to the ISS wouldn't contain the crew during reentry, and recently the capsule segment of a Soyuz spacecraft has returned to Earth after the spacewalk happened to check out the outside of the hole.



But I don't know if the returning craft is the "holy craft" or a different one; the ISS was looking like a parking garage recently with so many spacecraft docked to it.



So is the hole still at the ISS, or has it been released to LEO, or re-entered the atmosphere? Where is the hole now?





below: screenshot from a recent Roscosmos tweet of cosmonaut Sergey Prokopyev (presumably) talking about the lead detection and repair and showing an ULD? (I can't speak Russian, but presumably this is correct.) Translating the text using Google:




"Friends, I decided to shoot a video to answer your numerous comments and dispel rumors. Everything is calm on the ISS! "




cosmonaut Sergey Prokopyev and ultrasonic leak detector



below: from @BowlOfRed's answer, Source



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below: from this answer, Source?



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below: from With six spacecraft currently docked at the ISS, how could Santa (or anyone else) deliver presents?, Source.



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    Gizmodo's Report: ISS Hole Drilled From the Inside, Cosmonaut Says has made me realize I've lost track of the hole. It was in the part of a Soyuz spacecraft docked to the ISS wouldn't contain the crew during reentry, and recently the capsule segment of a Soyuz spacecraft has returned to Earth after the spacewalk happened to check out the outside of the hole.



    But I don't know if the returning craft is the "holy craft" or a different one; the ISS was looking like a parking garage recently with so many spacecraft docked to it.



    So is the hole still at the ISS, or has it been released to LEO, or re-entered the atmosphere? Where is the hole now?





    below: screenshot from a recent Roscosmos tweet of cosmonaut Sergey Prokopyev (presumably) talking about the lead detection and repair and showing an ULD? (I can't speak Russian, but presumably this is correct.) Translating the text using Google:




    "Friends, I decided to shoot a video to answer your numerous comments and dispel rumors. Everything is calm on the ISS! "




    cosmonaut Sergey Prokopyev and ultrasonic leak detector



    below: from @BowlOfRed's answer, Source



    enter image description here



    below: from this answer, Source?



    enter image description here



    below: from With six spacecraft currently docked at the ISS, how could Santa (or anyone else) deliver presents?, Source.



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      Gizmodo's Report: ISS Hole Drilled From the Inside, Cosmonaut Says has made me realize I've lost track of the hole. It was in the part of a Soyuz spacecraft docked to the ISS wouldn't contain the crew during reentry, and recently the capsule segment of a Soyuz spacecraft has returned to Earth after the spacewalk happened to check out the outside of the hole.



      But I don't know if the returning craft is the "holy craft" or a different one; the ISS was looking like a parking garage recently with so many spacecraft docked to it.



      So is the hole still at the ISS, or has it been released to LEO, or re-entered the atmosphere? Where is the hole now?





      below: screenshot from a recent Roscosmos tweet of cosmonaut Sergey Prokopyev (presumably) talking about the lead detection and repair and showing an ULD? (I can't speak Russian, but presumably this is correct.) Translating the text using Google:




      "Friends, I decided to shoot a video to answer your numerous comments and dispel rumors. Everything is calm on the ISS! "




      cosmonaut Sergey Prokopyev and ultrasonic leak detector



      below: from @BowlOfRed's answer, Source



      enter image description here



      below: from this answer, Source?



      enter image description here



      below: from With six spacecraft currently docked at the ISS, how could Santa (or anyone else) deliver presents?, Source.



      enter image description here










      share|improve this question















      Gizmodo's Report: ISS Hole Drilled From the Inside, Cosmonaut Says has made me realize I've lost track of the hole. It was in the part of a Soyuz spacecraft docked to the ISS wouldn't contain the crew during reentry, and recently the capsule segment of a Soyuz spacecraft has returned to Earth after the spacewalk happened to check out the outside of the hole.



      But I don't know if the returning craft is the "holy craft" or a different one; the ISS was looking like a parking garage recently with so many spacecraft docked to it.



      So is the hole still at the ISS, or has it been released to LEO, or re-entered the atmosphere? Where is the hole now?





      below: screenshot from a recent Roscosmos tweet of cosmonaut Sergey Prokopyev (presumably) talking about the lead detection and repair and showing an ULD? (I can't speak Russian, but presumably this is correct.) Translating the text using Google:




      "Friends, I decided to shoot a video to answer your numerous comments and dispel rumors. Everything is calm on the ISS! "




      cosmonaut Sergey Prokopyev and ultrasonic leak detector



      below: from @BowlOfRed's answer, Source



      enter image description here



      below: from this answer, Source?



      enter image description here



      below: from With six spacecraft currently docked at the ISS, how could Santa (or anyone else) deliver presents?, Source.



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          The damaged craft is a Soyuz-MS which is limited to 210 days1 docked at ISS. Because of this limitation it was the next to deörbit. Since the hole was in the orbital module and not the reëntry module there were no special concerns regarding the return to Earth. The craft, MS-09, returned safely to Earth on 20 December 2018, landing at 05:03 UTC.



          Both the orbital module and service modules are released after the deorbit burn so both would have burned up in the atmosphere around the time of the descent module's reënty and crashed about 830km short of the crew's landing site. Based on the ISS orbital track and reënty time, it seems the hole (or what's left of it) is currently in one of the 'stans (probably somewhere in southern Kazakhstan)2.





          1 This limitation is due to the use of Hydrogen Peroxide in the reëntry module's attitude control thrusters. This fuel decomposes over time (into water and oxygen). If the fuel fully decomposes then return to Earth is still possible but only via ballistic descent. This answer and this one go into more detail. (thanks to uhoh for the first link).



          2 Reëntry was from the south-west heading into central Kazakhstan.





          Soyuz reëntry
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          • Are you sure about that If the fuel fully decomposes then return to Earth is still possible but only via ballistic descent I asked a follow up. space.stackexchange.com/questions/33101/…
            – Antzi
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            @Antzi Pretty darned sure. This scenario is actually shown in the diagram above. I'll take a look at your question though.
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          The damaged craft is a Soyuz-MS which is limited to 210 days1 docked at ISS. Because of this limitation it was the next to deörbit. Since the hole was in the orbital module and not the reëntry module there were no special concerns regarding the return to Earth. The craft, MS-09, returned safely to Earth on 20 December 2018, landing at 05:03 UTC.



          Both the orbital module and service modules are released after the deorbit burn so both would have burned up in the atmosphere around the time of the descent module's reënty and crashed about 830km short of the crew's landing site. Based on the ISS orbital track and reënty time, it seems the hole (or what's left of it) is currently in one of the 'stans (probably somewhere in southern Kazakhstan)2.





          1 This limitation is due to the use of Hydrogen Peroxide in the reëntry module's attitude control thrusters. This fuel decomposes over time (into water and oxygen). If the fuel fully decomposes then return to Earth is still possible but only via ballistic descent. This answer and this one go into more detail. (thanks to uhoh for the first link).



          2 Reëntry was from the south-west heading into central Kazakhstan.





          Soyuz reëntry
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          • Are you sure about that If the fuel fully decomposes then return to Earth is still possible but only via ballistic descent I asked a follow up. space.stackexchange.com/questions/33101/…
            – Antzi
            7 hours ago






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            @Antzi Pretty darned sure. This scenario is actually shown in the diagram above. I'll take a look at your question though.
            – Alex Hajnal
            7 hours ago
















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          The damaged craft is a Soyuz-MS which is limited to 210 days1 docked at ISS. Because of this limitation it was the next to deörbit. Since the hole was in the orbital module and not the reëntry module there were no special concerns regarding the return to Earth. The craft, MS-09, returned safely to Earth on 20 December 2018, landing at 05:03 UTC.



          Both the orbital module and service modules are released after the deorbit burn so both would have burned up in the atmosphere around the time of the descent module's reënty and crashed about 830km short of the crew's landing site. Based on the ISS orbital track and reënty time, it seems the hole (or what's left of it) is currently in one of the 'stans (probably somewhere in southern Kazakhstan)2.





          1 This limitation is due to the use of Hydrogen Peroxide in the reëntry module's attitude control thrusters. This fuel decomposes over time (into water and oxygen). If the fuel fully decomposes then return to Earth is still possible but only via ballistic descent. This answer and this one go into more detail. (thanks to uhoh for the first link).



          2 Reëntry was from the south-west heading into central Kazakhstan.





          Soyuz reëntry
          Source: NASA TV






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          • Are you sure about that If the fuel fully decomposes then return to Earth is still possible but only via ballistic descent I asked a follow up. space.stackexchange.com/questions/33101/…
            – Antzi
            7 hours ago






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            @Antzi Pretty darned sure. This scenario is actually shown in the diagram above. I'll take a look at your question though.
            – Alex Hajnal
            7 hours ago














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          The damaged craft is a Soyuz-MS which is limited to 210 days1 docked at ISS. Because of this limitation it was the next to deörbit. Since the hole was in the orbital module and not the reëntry module there were no special concerns regarding the return to Earth. The craft, MS-09, returned safely to Earth on 20 December 2018, landing at 05:03 UTC.



          Both the orbital module and service modules are released after the deorbit burn so both would have burned up in the atmosphere around the time of the descent module's reënty and crashed about 830km short of the crew's landing site. Based on the ISS orbital track and reënty time, it seems the hole (or what's left of it) is currently in one of the 'stans (probably somewhere in southern Kazakhstan)2.





          1 This limitation is due to the use of Hydrogen Peroxide in the reëntry module's attitude control thrusters. This fuel decomposes over time (into water and oxygen). If the fuel fully decomposes then return to Earth is still possible but only via ballistic descent. This answer and this one go into more detail. (thanks to uhoh for the first link).



          2 Reëntry was from the south-west heading into central Kazakhstan.





          Soyuz reëntry
          Source: NASA TV






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          The damaged craft is a Soyuz-MS which is limited to 210 days1 docked at ISS. Because of this limitation it was the next to deörbit. Since the hole was in the orbital module and not the reëntry module there were no special concerns regarding the return to Earth. The craft, MS-09, returned safely to Earth on 20 December 2018, landing at 05:03 UTC.



          Both the orbital module and service modules are released after the deorbit burn so both would have burned up in the atmosphere around the time of the descent module's reënty and crashed about 830km short of the crew's landing site. Based on the ISS orbital track and reënty time, it seems the hole (or what's left of it) is currently in one of the 'stans (probably somewhere in southern Kazakhstan)2.





          1 This limitation is due to the use of Hydrogen Peroxide in the reëntry module's attitude control thrusters. This fuel decomposes over time (into water and oxygen). If the fuel fully decomposes then return to Earth is still possible but only via ballistic descent. This answer and this one go into more detail. (thanks to uhoh for the first link).



          2 Reëntry was from the south-west heading into central Kazakhstan.





          Soyuz reëntry
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          • Are you sure about that If the fuel fully decomposes then return to Earth is still possible but only via ballistic descent I asked a follow up. space.stackexchange.com/questions/33101/…
            – Antzi
            7 hours ago






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            @Antzi Pretty darned sure. This scenario is actually shown in the diagram above. I'll take a look at your question though.
            – Alex Hajnal
            7 hours ago


















          • Are you sure about that If the fuel fully decomposes then return to Earth is still possible but only via ballistic descent I asked a follow up. space.stackexchange.com/questions/33101/…
            – Antzi
            7 hours ago






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            @Antzi Pretty darned sure. This scenario is actually shown in the diagram above. I'll take a look at your question though.
            – Alex Hajnal
            7 hours ago
















          Are you sure about that If the fuel fully decomposes then return to Earth is still possible but only via ballistic descent I asked a follow up. space.stackexchange.com/questions/33101/…
          – Antzi
          7 hours ago




          Are you sure about that If the fuel fully decomposes then return to Earth is still possible but only via ballistic descent I asked a follow up. space.stackexchange.com/questions/33101/…
          – Antzi
          7 hours ago




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          @Antzi Pretty darned sure. This scenario is actually shown in the diagram above. I'll take a look at your question though.
          – Alex Hajnal
          7 hours ago




          @Antzi Pretty darned sure. This scenario is actually shown in the diagram above. I'll take a look at your question though.
          – Alex Hajnal
          7 hours ago


















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