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I have an old trailer that needs a tire replaced. I've looked at all the answers on how to unstick lug nuts, but they all assume that the wheel can be locked so when you apply torque to the lug nut the wheel doesn't spin. How can I lock the wheels on a trailer so they don't spin?










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  • Are there any holes in the wheels? Stick a crowbar through one and wedge it against the underside of the flatbed (or any structural element under the trailer).
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  • @J... made the same comment 20 odd minutes prior... see below...
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I have an old trailer that needs a tire replaced. I've looked at all the answers on how to unstick lug nuts, but they all assume that the wheel can be locked so when you apply torque to the lug nut the wheel doesn't spin. How can I lock the wheels on a trailer so they don't spin?










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  • @J... made the same comment 20 odd minutes prior... see below...
    – Solar Mike
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I have an old trailer that needs a tire replaced. I've looked at all the answers on how to unstick lug nuts, but they all assume that the wheel can be locked so when you apply torque to the lug nut the wheel doesn't spin. How can I lock the wheels on a trailer so they don't spin?










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I have an old trailer that needs a tire replaced. I've looked at all the answers on how to unstick lug nuts, but they all assume that the wheel can be locked so when you apply torque to the lug nut the wheel doesn't spin. How can I lock the wheels on a trailer so they don't spin?







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  • Are there any holes in the wheels? Stick a crowbar through one and wedge it against the underside of the flatbed (or any structural element under the trailer).
    – J...
    2 hours ago










  • @J... made the same comment 20 odd minutes prior... see below...
    – Solar Mike
    1 hour ago




















  • Are there any holes in the wheels? Stick a crowbar through one and wedge it against the underside of the flatbed (or any structural element under the trailer).
    – J...
    2 hours ago










  • @J... made the same comment 20 odd minutes prior... see below...
    – Solar Mike
    1 hour ago


















Are there any holes in the wheels? Stick a crowbar through one and wedge it against the underside of the flatbed (or any structural element under the trailer).
– J...
2 hours ago




Are there any holes in the wheels? Stick a crowbar through one and wedge it against the underside of the flatbed (or any structural element under the trailer).
– J...
2 hours ago












@J... made the same comment 20 odd minutes prior... see below...
– Solar Mike
1 hour ago






@J... made the same comment 20 odd minutes prior... see below...
– Solar Mike
1 hour ago












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The really simple option is to loosen the nuts while the wheel is resting on the ground, and only raise it up on the jack once they are loose (not removed, just loose)



Otherwise, if you don't have brakes you will need to look at wedging the wheel or axle somehow. You can use a strap, or wooden wedges, or as @SolarMike suggested, if the wheel has holes in it, a pry-bar through the hole and wedged under the trailer will work.



But option 1 is really the easiest way - it works using gravity, there are no straps to slip, and you reduce your chance of injury. If the wheel still slips, add weight to the trailer or attach it to a vehicle with the brakes on, or ensure the trailer is on a non-slip surface (eg dry, textured concrete)






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  • The weight of the trailer is not sufficient to hold the wheel in place when torque is applied. It just spins on the ground.
    – Jeff Waite
    5 hours ago










  • @JeffWaite - updated for you :-)
    – Rory Alsop
    5 hours ago






  • 1




    Connect the trailer to a vehicle, now the gravity method should work.
    – Moab
    5 hours ago












  • Don't understand how hooking to a vehicle would help. The trailer still weights too little and when I torque the lug nuts the wheel would still spin on the ground.
    – Jeff Waite
    5 hours ago










  • So, when you torque the nuts, what direction are you turning your torque wrench? Pushing it downwards increases the traction on the ground
    – Rory Alsop
    5 hours ago


















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Yes, loosen nuts while the wheel is on the ground but first dowse them all with some PB-Blaster or similar penetrant oil like WD40 and let it soak in for an hour or so. That should make them easier to come off and not spin the wheel.






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  • They should be easy enough to find...
    – Solar Mike
    2 hours ago










  • The best penetrating fluid I've ever used is a mixture of 50/50 ATF/acetone.
    – Jesse_b
    16 mins ago


















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Do you have a long solid tiedown strap? Wrap the strap around the rolling tread of the tyre and hook it to a secure piece of the chassis.



If there's nowhere accessible, hook up a tow vehicle and lay the strap under its rear wheel.



This should prevent the wheel from rotating when you apply torque via a wheel brace or cheater-bar.



Once your tyre is replaced, make sure you clean the studs and nuts, and use grease or assembly compound on the threads to stop this happening again. It would be practical to clean the studs on the other side too before they seize. Remember the spare wheel's mount as well.






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  • I was thinking the same thing. You type faster. :-) Consider how a strap wrench works, and apply the tie down strap the same way. From another comment it seems the tire has been removed and OP is now working with a bare wheel. Maybe some thin rubber or sandpaper could improve the grip of the strap to the metal wheel.
    – Greg Hill
    1 hour ago












  • The OP said the tire came off 3 hours ago...
    – Solar Mike
    1 hour ago











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The really simple option is to loosen the nuts while the wheel is resting on the ground, and only raise it up on the jack once they are loose (not removed, just loose)



Otherwise, if you don't have brakes you will need to look at wedging the wheel or axle somehow. You can use a strap, or wooden wedges, or as @SolarMike suggested, if the wheel has holes in it, a pry-bar through the hole and wedged under the trailer will work.



But option 1 is really the easiest way - it works using gravity, there are no straps to slip, and you reduce your chance of injury. If the wheel still slips, add weight to the trailer or attach it to a vehicle with the brakes on, or ensure the trailer is on a non-slip surface (eg dry, textured concrete)






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  • The weight of the trailer is not sufficient to hold the wheel in place when torque is applied. It just spins on the ground.
    – Jeff Waite
    5 hours ago










  • @JeffWaite - updated for you :-)
    – Rory Alsop
    5 hours ago






  • 1




    Connect the trailer to a vehicle, now the gravity method should work.
    – Moab
    5 hours ago












  • Don't understand how hooking to a vehicle would help. The trailer still weights too little and when I torque the lug nuts the wheel would still spin on the ground.
    – Jeff Waite
    5 hours ago










  • So, when you torque the nuts, what direction are you turning your torque wrench? Pushing it downwards increases the traction on the ground
    – Rory Alsop
    5 hours ago















up vote
4
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The really simple option is to loosen the nuts while the wheel is resting on the ground, and only raise it up on the jack once they are loose (not removed, just loose)



Otherwise, if you don't have brakes you will need to look at wedging the wheel or axle somehow. You can use a strap, or wooden wedges, or as @SolarMike suggested, if the wheel has holes in it, a pry-bar through the hole and wedged under the trailer will work.



But option 1 is really the easiest way - it works using gravity, there are no straps to slip, and you reduce your chance of injury. If the wheel still slips, add weight to the trailer or attach it to a vehicle with the brakes on, or ensure the trailer is on a non-slip surface (eg dry, textured concrete)






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  • The weight of the trailer is not sufficient to hold the wheel in place when torque is applied. It just spins on the ground.
    – Jeff Waite
    5 hours ago










  • @JeffWaite - updated for you :-)
    – Rory Alsop
    5 hours ago






  • 1




    Connect the trailer to a vehicle, now the gravity method should work.
    – Moab
    5 hours ago












  • Don't understand how hooking to a vehicle would help. The trailer still weights too little and when I torque the lug nuts the wheel would still spin on the ground.
    – Jeff Waite
    5 hours ago










  • So, when you torque the nuts, what direction are you turning your torque wrench? Pushing it downwards increases the traction on the ground
    – Rory Alsop
    5 hours ago













up vote
4
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up vote
4
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The really simple option is to loosen the nuts while the wheel is resting on the ground, and only raise it up on the jack once they are loose (not removed, just loose)



Otherwise, if you don't have brakes you will need to look at wedging the wheel or axle somehow. You can use a strap, or wooden wedges, or as @SolarMike suggested, if the wheel has holes in it, a pry-bar through the hole and wedged under the trailer will work.



But option 1 is really the easiest way - it works using gravity, there are no straps to slip, and you reduce your chance of injury. If the wheel still slips, add weight to the trailer or attach it to a vehicle with the brakes on, or ensure the trailer is on a non-slip surface (eg dry, textured concrete)






share|improve this answer














The really simple option is to loosen the nuts while the wheel is resting on the ground, and only raise it up on the jack once they are loose (not removed, just loose)



Otherwise, if you don't have brakes you will need to look at wedging the wheel or axle somehow. You can use a strap, or wooden wedges, or as @SolarMike suggested, if the wheel has holes in it, a pry-bar through the hole and wedged under the trailer will work.



But option 1 is really the easiest way - it works using gravity, there are no straps to slip, and you reduce your chance of injury. If the wheel still slips, add weight to the trailer or attach it to a vehicle with the brakes on, or ensure the trailer is on a non-slip surface (eg dry, textured concrete)







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  • The weight of the trailer is not sufficient to hold the wheel in place when torque is applied. It just spins on the ground.
    – Jeff Waite
    5 hours ago










  • @JeffWaite - updated for you :-)
    – Rory Alsop
    5 hours ago






  • 1




    Connect the trailer to a vehicle, now the gravity method should work.
    – Moab
    5 hours ago












  • Don't understand how hooking to a vehicle would help. The trailer still weights too little and when I torque the lug nuts the wheel would still spin on the ground.
    – Jeff Waite
    5 hours ago










  • So, when you torque the nuts, what direction are you turning your torque wrench? Pushing it downwards increases the traction on the ground
    – Rory Alsop
    5 hours ago


















  • The weight of the trailer is not sufficient to hold the wheel in place when torque is applied. It just spins on the ground.
    – Jeff Waite
    5 hours ago










  • @JeffWaite - updated for you :-)
    – Rory Alsop
    5 hours ago






  • 1




    Connect the trailer to a vehicle, now the gravity method should work.
    – Moab
    5 hours ago












  • Don't understand how hooking to a vehicle would help. The trailer still weights too little and when I torque the lug nuts the wheel would still spin on the ground.
    – Jeff Waite
    5 hours ago










  • So, when you torque the nuts, what direction are you turning your torque wrench? Pushing it downwards increases the traction on the ground
    – Rory Alsop
    5 hours ago
















The weight of the trailer is not sufficient to hold the wheel in place when torque is applied. It just spins on the ground.
– Jeff Waite
5 hours ago




The weight of the trailer is not sufficient to hold the wheel in place when torque is applied. It just spins on the ground.
– Jeff Waite
5 hours ago












@JeffWaite - updated for you :-)
– Rory Alsop
5 hours ago




@JeffWaite - updated for you :-)
– Rory Alsop
5 hours ago




1




1




Connect the trailer to a vehicle, now the gravity method should work.
– Moab
5 hours ago






Connect the trailer to a vehicle, now the gravity method should work.
– Moab
5 hours ago














Don't understand how hooking to a vehicle would help. The trailer still weights too little and when I torque the lug nuts the wheel would still spin on the ground.
– Jeff Waite
5 hours ago




Don't understand how hooking to a vehicle would help. The trailer still weights too little and when I torque the lug nuts the wheel would still spin on the ground.
– Jeff Waite
5 hours ago












So, when you torque the nuts, what direction are you turning your torque wrench? Pushing it downwards increases the traction on the ground
– Rory Alsop
5 hours ago




So, when you torque the nuts, what direction are you turning your torque wrench? Pushing it downwards increases the traction on the ground
– Rory Alsop
5 hours ago










up vote
1
down vote













Yes, loosen nuts while the wheel is on the ground but first dowse them all with some PB-Blaster or similar penetrant oil like WD40 and let it soak in for an hour or so. That should make them easier to come off and not spin the wheel.






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  • They should be easy enough to find...
    – Solar Mike
    2 hours ago










  • The best penetrating fluid I've ever used is a mixture of 50/50 ATF/acetone.
    – Jesse_b
    16 mins ago















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Yes, loosen nuts while the wheel is on the ground but first dowse them all with some PB-Blaster or similar penetrant oil like WD40 and let it soak in for an hour or so. That should make them easier to come off and not spin the wheel.






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    – Solar Mike
    2 hours ago










  • The best penetrating fluid I've ever used is a mixture of 50/50 ATF/acetone.
    – Jesse_b
    16 mins ago













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Yes, loosen nuts while the wheel is on the ground but first dowse them all with some PB-Blaster or similar penetrant oil like WD40 and let it soak in for an hour or so. That should make them easier to come off and not spin the wheel.






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Yes, loosen nuts while the wheel is on the ground but first dowse them all with some PB-Blaster or similar penetrant oil like WD40 and let it soak in for an hour or so. That should make them easier to come off and not spin the wheel.







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  • They should be easy enough to find...
    – Solar Mike
    2 hours ago










  • The best penetrating fluid I've ever used is a mixture of 50/50 ATF/acetone.
    – Jesse_b
    16 mins ago


















  • They should be easy enough to find...
    – Solar Mike
    2 hours ago










  • The best penetrating fluid I've ever used is a mixture of 50/50 ATF/acetone.
    – Jesse_b
    16 mins ago
















They should be easy enough to find...
– Solar Mike
2 hours ago




They should be easy enough to find...
– Solar Mike
2 hours ago












The best penetrating fluid I've ever used is a mixture of 50/50 ATF/acetone.
– Jesse_b
16 mins ago




The best penetrating fluid I've ever used is a mixture of 50/50 ATF/acetone.
– Jesse_b
16 mins ago










up vote
0
down vote













Do you have a long solid tiedown strap? Wrap the strap around the rolling tread of the tyre and hook it to a secure piece of the chassis.



If there's nowhere accessible, hook up a tow vehicle and lay the strap under its rear wheel.



This should prevent the wheel from rotating when you apply torque via a wheel brace or cheater-bar.



Once your tyre is replaced, make sure you clean the studs and nuts, and use grease or assembly compound on the threads to stop this happening again. It would be practical to clean the studs on the other side too before they seize. Remember the spare wheel's mount as well.






share|improve this answer





















  • I was thinking the same thing. You type faster. :-) Consider how a strap wrench works, and apply the tie down strap the same way. From another comment it seems the tire has been removed and OP is now working with a bare wheel. Maybe some thin rubber or sandpaper could improve the grip of the strap to the metal wheel.
    – Greg Hill
    1 hour ago












  • The OP said the tire came off 3 hours ago...
    – Solar Mike
    1 hour ago















up vote
0
down vote













Do you have a long solid tiedown strap? Wrap the strap around the rolling tread of the tyre and hook it to a secure piece of the chassis.



If there's nowhere accessible, hook up a tow vehicle and lay the strap under its rear wheel.



This should prevent the wheel from rotating when you apply torque via a wheel brace or cheater-bar.



Once your tyre is replaced, make sure you clean the studs and nuts, and use grease or assembly compound on the threads to stop this happening again. It would be practical to clean the studs on the other side too before they seize. Remember the spare wheel's mount as well.






share|improve this answer





















  • I was thinking the same thing. You type faster. :-) Consider how a strap wrench works, and apply the tie down strap the same way. From another comment it seems the tire has been removed and OP is now working with a bare wheel. Maybe some thin rubber or sandpaper could improve the grip of the strap to the metal wheel.
    – Greg Hill
    1 hour ago












  • The OP said the tire came off 3 hours ago...
    – Solar Mike
    1 hour ago













up vote
0
down vote










up vote
0
down vote









Do you have a long solid tiedown strap? Wrap the strap around the rolling tread of the tyre and hook it to a secure piece of the chassis.



If there's nowhere accessible, hook up a tow vehicle and lay the strap under its rear wheel.



This should prevent the wheel from rotating when you apply torque via a wheel brace or cheater-bar.



Once your tyre is replaced, make sure you clean the studs and nuts, and use grease or assembly compound on the threads to stop this happening again. It would be practical to clean the studs on the other side too before they seize. Remember the spare wheel's mount as well.






share|improve this answer












Do you have a long solid tiedown strap? Wrap the strap around the rolling tread of the tyre and hook it to a secure piece of the chassis.



If there's nowhere accessible, hook up a tow vehicle and lay the strap under its rear wheel.



This should prevent the wheel from rotating when you apply torque via a wheel brace or cheater-bar.



Once your tyre is replaced, make sure you clean the studs and nuts, and use grease or assembly compound on the threads to stop this happening again. It would be practical to clean the studs on the other side too before they seize. Remember the spare wheel's mount as well.







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  • I was thinking the same thing. You type faster. :-) Consider how a strap wrench works, and apply the tie down strap the same way. From another comment it seems the tire has been removed and OP is now working with a bare wheel. Maybe some thin rubber or sandpaper could improve the grip of the strap to the metal wheel.
    – Greg Hill
    1 hour ago












  • The OP said the tire came off 3 hours ago...
    – Solar Mike
    1 hour ago


















  • I was thinking the same thing. You type faster. :-) Consider how a strap wrench works, and apply the tie down strap the same way. From another comment it seems the tire has been removed and OP is now working with a bare wheel. Maybe some thin rubber or sandpaper could improve the grip of the strap to the metal wheel.
    – Greg Hill
    1 hour ago












  • The OP said the tire came off 3 hours ago...
    – Solar Mike
    1 hour ago
















I was thinking the same thing. You type faster. :-) Consider how a strap wrench works, and apply the tie down strap the same way. From another comment it seems the tire has been removed and OP is now working with a bare wheel. Maybe some thin rubber or sandpaper could improve the grip of the strap to the metal wheel.
– Greg Hill
1 hour ago






I was thinking the same thing. You type faster. :-) Consider how a strap wrench works, and apply the tie down strap the same way. From another comment it seems the tire has been removed and OP is now working with a bare wheel. Maybe some thin rubber or sandpaper could improve the grip of the strap to the metal wheel.
– Greg Hill
1 hour ago














The OP said the tire came off 3 hours ago...
– Solar Mike
1 hour ago




The OP said the tire came off 3 hours ago...
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